You know what is really authentic about these soldiers? How nice and clean their uniforms are. Did their wives put them thru the laundry before this re-enactment?
Please explain why the ramrods are not used in the Enfield rifle loading process. It would seem an important ingredient of authenticity in this reenactment has been ignored.
Its a safety precaution, if the musket accidentally goes off while the ramrod is in the barrel it becomes a dangerous projectile. No bullets are used so there isnt really any need for ramrods in a reenactment.
@fifeandforfar several years ago, a british civil war reenactor was seriously wounded by a ramrod which had inadvertantly been left in the barrel by another reenactor.after that, the ramrods weren't used, to avoid injury
muskets were not accurate in that period there was no way they could get a organized unit through the woods in time to wait for the union forces and even if they did all the trees would have made a suitable foe falling on confederate forces from artillery
why didnt they split into small groups and go into the woods and then snipe at the yankees? Natives would have done that. then when the yankees were thinned out, you launch youre ferocious charge! and sweep them off the field. in theory, that is.
Both of those statements aren't true!! There were snipers in the Civil War and once they replaced smooth bore muskets for rifled ones they had accurate weapons. Rifled artillery pieces were extremely accurate at distances up to and sometimes over a mile.
they did have snipers and they usually used a 58. caliber rifle the 58 could go up to a mile. and with the proper scope the rifles would have been quite accurate
Well... yes. But they wheren't accurate and still if they had all the scopes and stuff on them they would try to pick off officers then line infantry. I replied a comment. Yes my mistake. There where snipers.
you always hear about the 58 cal going up to a mile and being accurate. but there are no documented cases of that happening. even modern day rifles may be able to go up to a mile but for the most part are not accurate
Why in the world would the 40th Alabama be reenacting at Shiloh, when they were not even organized yet? They were organized in May 1862, down in Mobile. Towards the end of the war they were consolidated with the 19th Alabama who was at Shiloh under Col Joe Wheeler (famed cavalry commander later).
In deed, the 40th was not at Shiloh but this video is of the 40th Ala. Co. A Reenactment Group that was in attendence at the reenactment. The unit consisted of four enlisted and one officer, being a small unit we joined with other units to form the 21st Ala. which was one of the original regiments at the battle. Just because a reenactment group's unit did not fight in the original battle does not mean they could not or should not pay homage to all soldier who fought and died in the War.
I understand now, with the consolidation with the 21st Alabama. We use to get units at Gettysburg that were never in the battle (historically) and we would merge them in with a unit that was at the battle. I hope to see you all at the 150th Gettysburg!
The park service doesn't usually allow reenactments to be held on the original sites. The 2007 Shiloh reenactment was held on a farm 15 miles south of the Shiloh battle field.
I am a 1st Srgt in the 40th Ala. I fought on Saturday and sat out on Sunday to take photos and shoot video. During the battle I followed the company as a file closer and stayed out of the way during the fighting. Near the end of the battle we came under cannon fire and the company was wiped out including my self.
it was made up but it worked we had been firing on the union camp for a while the general sent a runner telling us to load and hold and to fire on his command i dont know how it worked but people 3 fields over heard us even with their heads in their vehicles this was the first day
@sdrain61 sorry for the late reply but it isnt inpossible we managed it perfectly we tried it a a different event and messed up but reenactors on the other side of the venue (2 fields away) with their heads in their cars heard it
it is very difficult would not have happened but can be done
@stewie13 normally it is but at this particular event we were given the order to load and hold and wait for the command "fire by army" upon the command we mannaged to pull it off perfectly the yanks looked like bowling pens
that was the only time ive seen it done but we did it
According to Hardee's Infantry Tactics manual there are only two ranks, the third went to the wayside because men in the third rank were shooting men in the front rank. Most of the fighting was performed standing in a mobile position, kneeling had its purpose of delivering two levels of fire on the opposing force, one at the chest and the other at the knees.
@Marmocet there are not third rank there's only two columns when your in battle. and no they didn't alway's kneel hence the reason for only two columns the second columns put's there rifle or musket in the crook of the man in front of him and fire.
Also the range at which they're firing is way, way off. They'd wait until the enemy was much closer in order to ensure a good kill ration and conserve ammunition.
The accurate range of the Enfield Musket, common Confederate weapon, was 300 yards. The distance at which the troops in this video engaged was 75 to 100 yards, the average distance at which most Civil War fighting took place.
@sdrain61 it was just not the enfield. it really was not that common the reason yo see so many reenator's with them is cause there cheap to buy. the rifle's and musket's you would find in the confederate army would have been. 1816 conversation, 1842 sprinffield,1841 mississippi rifle, 1855 springfield, 1861 springfield 1853 enfield and several civilian model's along with flint locks
@Marmocet once again no they wouldn't there shootin with rifled musket's the range on these sucker's were 700-800 yard's. the commander's wouldn't throw there men that close for the reason of it would be a slaughter fest. and you also gotta remember thost tactic's were for SMOOTHBORE musket's which the effective range on those were only 70 to 80 yard's
hahaha i laughed my butt off when all i heard was GET IT RIGHT, SOUND OFF!!!! gotta love the non-coms/officers, nice job 40th!
2ndpadrummer 1 month ago
The 40th Alabama didn't serve at Shiloh did it? I have an ancestor who was in the 40th and it's nit listed as having been there.
Syrinx69 6 months ago
You know what is really authentic about these soldiers? How nice and clean their uniforms are. Did their wives put them thru the laundry before this re-enactment?
missionaryridge 11 months ago
These guys musta been guardin' the ration wagons eh? Who says the Rebels were ill fed?
missionaryridge 11 months ago
wut da heck is butternut
getcash1996 1 year ago
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old fat reenactors. biggest problem we have
24thvolunteer 1 year ago
you guy's got alot of gray in your rank's. there would be alot more butternut then gray in this period of the war..
stewie13 1 year ago
I took 2 hikes in Shiloh, they were grueling, but they gave a weird feeling that I was stepping over everones body o.o
Dragon6578 1 year ago
Fuckin Farbs...
Jebber07 1 year ago
were'nt there drummers at the battle of shiloh
haloandarbiter117 1 year ago
GET IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!! haha! I love it!
thomas44329 2 years ago
I was at that reenactment with the 28th tennessee. That was a great weekend.
OrfeoQuartet 2 years ago
Please explain why the ramrods are not used in the Enfield rifle loading process. It would seem an important ingredient of authenticity in this reenactment has been ignored.
fifeandforfar 2 years ago 2
Its a safety precaution, if the musket accidentally goes off while the ramrod is in the barrel it becomes a dangerous projectile. No bullets are used so there isnt really any need for ramrods in a reenactment.
sdrain61 2 years ago 3
@fifeandforfar several years ago, a british civil war reenactor was seriously wounded by a ramrod which had inadvertantly been left in the barrel by another reenactor.after that, the ramrods weren't used, to avoid injury
rebel1967able 1 month ago
muskets were not accurate in that period there was no way they could get a organized unit through the woods in time to wait for the union forces and even if they did all the trees would have made a suitable foe falling on confederate forces from artillery
FEAR0418 3 years ago
why didnt they split into small groups and go into the woods and then snipe at the yankees? Natives would have done that. then when the yankees were thinned out, you launch youre ferocious charge! and sweep them off the field. in theory, that is.
acerb45666555 3 years ago
They didn't have snipers. Also thier guns wern't accurate.
devenci 3 years ago
Both of those statements aren't true!! There were snipers in the Civil War and once they replaced smooth bore muskets for rifled ones they had accurate weapons. Rifled artillery pieces were extremely accurate at distances up to and sometimes over a mile.
hogzilla22 2 years ago
Well I did messed up on the sniper one. But alot of thier muskets could shoot that well. I was meaning muskets.
devenci 2 years ago
they did have snipers and they usually used a 58. caliber rifle the 58 could go up to a mile. and with the proper scope the rifles would have been quite accurate
stewie13 2 years ago
Well... yes. But they wheren't accurate and still if they had all the scopes and stuff on them they would try to pick off officers then line infantry. I replied a comment. Yes my mistake. There where snipers.
devenci 2 years ago
you always hear about the 58 cal going up to a mile and being accurate. but there are no documented cases of that happening. even modern day rifles may be able to go up to a mile but for the most part are not accurate
dougc2004 1 year ago
@dougc2004 the effective range of the british lee-enfield .303 rifle was 3 miles, so i am sorry to tell you that your facts are wrong
rebel1967able 1 month ago
yall stack arms in a weird way... i take it you dont use gilams
co. A 5th Vir. Stonewall Brigade
CoA5thVa 3 years ago
are all of them a part of an artillery battery? They all have red kepis, which I thought was the branch color of artillery.
Roossell93 3 years ago
do you seriously do this as like a game or do you just do it as like a play like a show
coflo1616 3 years ago
It's more like an outdoor play, recreating the sights, sound, and smell of the 19th century battlefield.
sdrain61 3 years ago
@coflo1616 and to some people its also a hobby
Irish8594 1 year ago
im from Alabama, and we shuda won this battle.
dixieboy1051 3 years ago
We did won the battle.
devenci 3 years ago
i was in the 3rd tn cavalry there
johnyreb13 3 years ago
me too
nunvikingsofthesea 3 years ago
Why in the world would the 40th Alabama be reenacting at Shiloh, when they were not even organized yet? They were organized in May 1862, down in Mobile. Towards the end of the war they were consolidated with the 19th Alabama who was at Shiloh under Col Joe Wheeler (famed cavalry commander later).
rebel2276 3 years ago
In deed, the 40th was not at Shiloh but this video is of the 40th Ala. Co. A Reenactment Group that was in attendence at the reenactment. The unit consisted of four enlisted and one officer, being a small unit we joined with other units to form the 21st Ala. which was one of the original regiments at the battle. Just because a reenactment group's unit did not fight in the original battle does not mean they could not or should not pay homage to all soldier who fought and died in the War.
sdrain61 3 years ago
I understand now, with the consolidation with the 21st Alabama. We use to get units at Gettysburg that were never in the battle (historically) and we would merge them in with a unit that was at the battle. I hope to see you all at the 150th Gettysburg!
rebel2276 3 years ago
I reenacted this Battle 17th Mississippi Reg.
MatthewLColeman 3 years ago
I am making a trip to Shiloh next week, is this the "honernet's nest"? I can loccate it. But I really love Civil war stuff! Thanks for posting!
melissabrawner 4 years ago
The park service doesn't usually allow reenactments to be held on the original sites. The 2007 Shiloh reenactment was held on a farm 15 miles south of the Shiloh battle field.
sdrain61 4 years ago
How did you get so close to there line
civilwarboy1134 4 years ago
I am a 1st Srgt in the 40th Ala. I fought on Saturday and sat out on Sunday to take photos and shoot video. During the battle I followed the company as a file closer and stayed out of the way during the fighting. Near the end of the battle we came under cannon fire and the company was wiped out including my self.
sdrain61 4 years ago
sdrain61 do you remember firing by army?
aboschert412 4 years ago
No I don't. It's near impossible to fire by army and to my knowledge there isn't even a command to "fire by army."
sdrain61 3 years ago
it was made up but it worked we had been firing on the union camp for a while the general sent a runner telling us to load and hold and to fire on his command i dont know how it worked but people 3 fields over heard us even with their heads in their vehicles this was the first day
aboschert412 3 years ago
@sdrain61 sorry for the late reply but it isnt inpossible we managed it perfectly we tried it a a different event and messed up but reenactors on the other side of the venue (2 fields away) with their heads in their cars heard it
it is very difficult would not have happened but can be done
aboschert412 1 year ago
@aboschert412 it's fire by brigade
stewie13 1 year ago
@stewie13 normally it is but at this particular event we were given the order to load and hold and wait for the command "fire by army" upon the command we mannaged to pull it off perfectly the yanks looked like bowling pens
that was the only time ive seen it done but we did it
aboschert412 1 year ago
Also, first rank kneels. Second and third ranks stand. Standard tactics.
Marmocet 4 years ago
According to Hardee's Infantry Tactics manual there are only two ranks, the third went to the wayside because men in the third rank were shooting men in the front rank. Most of the fighting was performed standing in a mobile position, kneeling had its purpose of delivering two levels of fire on the opposing force, one at the chest and the other at the knees.
sdrain61 4 years ago
You would be incorrect in saying that, if you refer to multiple documents in video and paper you would see that you are incorrect.
jonvonman 3 years ago
@Marmocet there are not third rank there's only two columns when your in battle. and no they didn't alway's kneel hence the reason for only two columns the second columns put's there rifle or musket in the crook of the man in front of him and fire.
stewie13 1 year ago
Also the range at which they're firing is way, way off. They'd wait until the enemy was much closer in order to ensure a good kill ration and conserve ammunition.
Marmocet 4 years ago
The accurate range of the Enfield Musket, common Confederate weapon, was 300 yards. The distance at which the troops in this video engaged was 75 to 100 yards, the average distance at which most Civil War fighting took place.
sdrain61 4 years ago
@sdrain61 it was just not the enfield. it really was not that common the reason yo see so many reenator's with them is cause there cheap to buy. the rifle's and musket's you would find in the confederate army would have been. 1816 conversation, 1842 sprinffield,1841 mississippi rifle, 1855 springfield, 1861 springfield 1853 enfield and several civilian model's along with flint locks
stewie13 1 year ago
Do you know how accurate a rifled musket is? Obviously Not.
jonvonman 3 years ago
@Marmocet once again no they wouldn't there shootin with rifled musket's the range on these sucker's were 700-800 yard's. the commander's wouldn't throw there men that close for the reason of it would be a slaughter fest. and you also gotta remember thost tactic's were for SMOOTHBORE musket's which the effective range on those were only 70 to 80 yard's
stewie13 1 year ago
COOL!!!
Drummer7rf 4 years ago
windy
hollywoodwerewolf 4 years ago