I hate my church choir for not singing enough classic music. We only have one Ave Maria sung twice a year and that´s it. Tomorrow I´ll bring sheet music and propose this, Mozart´s Ave Verum Corpus and di Lasso´s two part Benedictus. Their too beautiful to ignore any longer.
...I checked against a pitch pipe, and this piece seems a whole fifth higher than is marked in the score. No wonder I couldn't hear resonance in the lower register - this is all female voices, isn't it? Either that, or it's SAT with the tenors singing lightly.
@Taenyr there was no universal pitch at this time, so you can forget trying to say that the pitch isnt authentic because virtually every town had middle C at another pitch
@Taenyr do you have the facsimile? The original score is a 4th higher than the score posted here. The discrepancies i mentioned above will account for the extra tone
I'm not religous, but that doesn't mean that I can not appreciate the beauty of this music.
Palestrina is an unbelievable source of inspiration, I would call his compositions the genesis of western music. This music established tonality and counterpoint as we know it and should be studied by every serious musician because it reflects the beginning of a continuous aesthetic transformation that, in it's essence, still keeps elements from it's start. Music is the most pure of all artforms.
@AdoremusInAeternum it's interesting to note though that palestrina never heard women perform his sacred music, because cantori were part of the clergy and had to be male.
@shobarsch Although he also composed to sopranos and altos. Only they were usually sung by young male boys that, truth be said, in a choir can do as well or even better than women as both have very similar timbers. But what you said is completely true.
@miguelarriagaecunha Yes, the highest part in Palestrina's scores is called Cantus, thus not indicating the type of voice to which it is assigned. It was traditionally sung by castrati or boys. And you're right, women and young boys do have similar timbres... but I can tell from experience that the if the choir is composed entirely of males, the sound will blend much better =)
Or maybe you just like to hear basso and tenors better than sopranos and altos(altough they can sometimes pass as tenors).:DD :P And it's natural to love the lower sounds if you are male/or playing a cello or something like that...:) Know and remember,everyone hears diffirently...;)
i kind of know latin, so when you put the words together they are AMAZING!!!!! and pretty. like, the title, when translated to english, it says : Jesus, admirable king
this is the type of music that i would hear in a movie when a horrific event has happened or it might be something you would hear when walking into a catholic church
great music! it really saddens me when people don't give respect to any classical music just because it dosen't have an electric guitar riff or an over rated band isn't playing it.
Are you sure it's an a#? i hear an a natural both in the bass part in ADmirabilis and in the soprano in admiRAbilis. A is the fifth note of the Dorian mode (the mode of this music), and believe me, a raised fifth would sound very odd.
But actually, in Renaissance music there are sometimes chromatic alterations that aren't notated, to create leading tones, and such. This is called musica ficta. However, that does not occur here; all accidentals are written in.
@b0ttomzone Music recordings often transpose pitchs, it´s a machine thing I guess.. Here it sounds like it´s on G minor, it´s not the same as it´s written, that was the problem from the start, so you´re right =) thanks for answering
@b0ttomzone lol true, but maybe it wasn´t so arbitrary, I guess it probably depended on the singers´abilities and flexibility, but I might be guessing too much
Palestrina doesn't fall into common practice period harmony and thus it is inappropriate to analyze pieces from the 16th Century as such. However I understand what you mean.
I'd like to learn 16th century counterpoint, but I don't know exactly what books to get t learn it. Right now, it's either Fux's classic or Knud Jeppesen's book on 16th century counterpoint.
Well, if you can read portuguese, there's a nice one, wrote by H. J. Koellreutter, and it's name is "Contraponto Modal do Séc XVI (Palestrina)". I do not know if the book has any published translation.
@Markohoppis Harold Owen's Modal and Tonal Counterpoint is wonderfully historic. It really makes you understand the stylistic elements of each time period, and what sets Palestrina apart from Bach or from Beethoven or even from Bartok, for instance.
This has long been my favorite choral song. I am curious as to why this choir chose to have the second verse sung by men only? Regardless, it is a beautiful recording.
Why is the music in the wrong key?
serendipityify 1 week ago
The only sound more beautiful than this piece of music is the sweet voice of our dear Lord Himself.
mvdbergrede 1 week ago
I hate my church choir for not singing enough classic music. We only have one Ave Maria sung twice a year and that´s it. Tomorrow I´ll bring sheet music and propose this, Mozart´s Ave Verum Corpus and di Lasso´s two part Benedictus. Their too beautiful to ignore any longer.
LoverofLiszt 2 weeks ago
Today is in 2012, a long time had passed.
gr4l9um20b7o 3 weeks ago in playlist Renaissance, Medieval and before... .
這首曲告訴了我們,聲樂運用密集和聲所能造成的強度。
gr4l9um20b7o 3 weeks ago in playlist Renaissance, Medieval and before... .
bravo et merci
GADAN4537 1 month ago
Admirabilis
mirrors1 1 month ago
...I checked against a pitch pipe, and this piece seems a whole fifth higher than is marked in the score. No wonder I couldn't hear resonance in the lower register - this is all female voices, isn't it? Either that, or it's SAT with the tenors singing lightly.
Taenyr 5 months ago
@Taenyr there was no universal pitch at this time, so you can forget trying to say that the pitch isnt authentic because virtually every town had middle C at another pitch
suffiice 3 months ago
@suffiice ...but a FIFTH?!
Taenyr 3 months ago
@Taenyr do you have the facsimile? The original score is a 4th higher than the score posted here. The discrepancies i mentioned above will account for the extra tone
suffiice 3 months ago
@suffiice Whoops, sorry, a fourth higher, a fifth lower. Haha, thanks - I think I understand your meaning now. =)
Taenyr 3 months ago
@Taenyr no prob :)
suffiice 3 months ago
@suffiice Okay, so it switches between what sounds like SSA or SAT and what sounds like TBB; but all a fifth higher/fourth lower than marked.
Taenyr 3 months ago
Wonderful. Could you send me the score? I tried to find it on imslp.org but without success.
enecee13 5 months ago
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@enecee13 you can find it on cpdl.org
TheMNikolina 4 months ago
Veramente una grande interpretazione! Complimeti!
unica2214 6 months ago
wow! beautiful and unworldly
back2backband1 8 months ago
I wish the score quality was better.
It looks strongly computer-generated.
hiperboloida 10 months ago
Heavenly!
Only4Russian 11 months ago
You know, there MUST be some kind of God, if men write this for him. That's not music, is pure pleasure...
BandaSCN 11 months ago 16
@BandaSCN Amen brother. That's exactly what I was thinking. Oh, and I believe superman must exist, if men write lots of comics about him ;)
richardus 1 week ago
Bellissima! La cantavo in chiesa per la Resurrezione.
AClaVetvs 11 months ago
this is harmony!!!!!!!!!!!!
primeros intentos de armonia, claro sigue siendo contrapunto, pero hay terceras y quintas
pacolote 1 year ago
<3
imamNadimak 1 year ago
I'm not religous, but that doesn't mean that I can not appreciate the beauty of this music.
Palestrina is an unbelievable source of inspiration, I would call his compositions the genesis of western music. This music established tonality and counterpoint as we know it and should be studied by every serious musician because it reflects the beginning of a continuous aesthetic transformation that, in it's essence, still keeps elements from it's start. Music is the most pure of all artforms.
playingmusiconmars 1 year ago
@playingmusiconmars What about comedy? Don't you think that is purer?
Gargantupimp 11 months ago
@playingmusiconmars It does mean, however, that your ability to appreciate this music is limited and incomplete. And that is to your detriment.
jesusthroughmary 10 months ago
bravo Eliotto Giardiniere!
nonnopirro52 1 year ago
Beautiful song! I venture to say this is probably the sound of Heaven.
sweetgothicrevenge 1 year ago
(((((I have goosebumps)))))
LightMare7 1 year ago
@AdoremusInAeternum it's interesting to note though that palestrina never heard women perform his sacred music, because cantori were part of the clergy and had to be male.
shobarsch 1 year ago
@shobarsch Although he also composed to sopranos and altos. Only they were usually sung by young male boys that, truth be said, in a choir can do as well or even better than women as both have very similar timbers. But what you said is completely true.
miguelarriagaecunha 1 year ago
@miguelarriagaecunha Yes, the highest part in Palestrina's scores is called Cantus, thus not indicating the type of voice to which it is assigned. It was traditionally sung by castrati or boys. And you're right, women and young boys do have similar timbres... but I can tell from experience that the if the choir is composed entirely of males, the sound will blend much better =)
shobarsch 1 year ago
@shobarsch
Or maybe you just like to hear basso and tenors better than sopranos and altos(altough they can sometimes pass as tenors).:DD :P And it's natural to love the lower sounds if you are male/or playing a cello or something like that...:) Know and remember,everyone hears diffirently...;)
Belogaria 11 months ago
I sing this with my choral, fucking awesome
8element 1 year ago
è perfetto!!!!
fatafoschia 1 year ago
Wonderfull!
DanielaMartins79 1 year ago
Fantastic, Humanity at it's greatest thing: Music and art.
DanielMcDrtcomposer 1 year ago
Hehe, the only reason I found this was because someone one twitter posted: "I hear music!"
"I don't hear anything."
"It's a mixed choir singing Palestrina."
"Let's run!"
Beautiful song.
Zoeycat123 1 year ago
This is one of the many works that make renaissance music really glow.
enecee13 1 year ago
@162sparky what is Renaissance ^^
ThePeanuts1000 1 year ago
god exist, this music prove it !
davinou26 1 year ago
@davinou26 it only proves people want Him to exist. Sadly, he doesn't.
mariniaya 1 year ago
i kind of know latin, so when you put the words together they are AMAZING!!!!! and pretty. like, the title, when translated to english, it says : Jesus, admirable king
navy95doc 1 year ago
I'm singing this in my choir class. It's so good.
ShellsheCote 1 year ago
this is the type of music that i would hear in a movie when a horrific event has happened or it might be something you would hear when walking into a catholic church
JUSTINJLOFTON 1 year ago
@JUSTINJLOFTON this is the music I would hear as I enter in Heaven. :-D and I don't necessarily mean Christian heaven.
amatorynumber 1 year ago
@AdoremusInAeternum
I could be wrong, but those sound like trebles to me.
somthinelse4735 1 year ago
@somthinelse4735 you ARE wrong! it is women :-)
amatorynumber 1 year ago
this little piece is sublime. No words.
amatorynumber 1 year ago
@AdoremusInAeternum there are also men in the first one... countertenors.
amatorynumber 1 year ago
@AdoremusInAeternum
yes,it's a shame they don't let WOMEN sing! :P
FliegendeHollaender 1 year ago
excellent. This makes a good anthem for a small, limited choir. There are various translations of the words.
Composerland 1 year ago
semplicemente sublime
musighitta 1 year ago
Wonderful
enecee13 1 year ago
che bellezza..
nonnopirro52 1 year ago
Huh...that's a relatively low note that girl was singing. I liked the song nonetheless.
thatradperson 1 year ago
great music! it really saddens me when people don't give respect to any classical music just because it dosen't have an electric guitar riff or an over rated band isn't playing it.
TheGuyWhoJustShotYou 1 year ago
linda canção Renascetista,com Palestrina no Auge da Polifonia.
jhonwfly 1 year ago
Umm, no...
hilaryworn2 1 year ago
we have to sing this in chorus and after hearing this im like
WE SUCK
X3
AnimeKat52 1 year ago
Those were REAL composers of music
ericbelify 1 year ago 5
The written music is not the same pitch, a bit disconcerting...
hilaryworn2 1 year ago
@hilaryworn2 And you are familiar with all temperament systems?
suffiice 1 year ago
è cantato 4 toni sopra? grazie
nonnopirro52 1 year ago
@AdoremusInAeternum The high male voices also sing in the first part
korneelmans 1 year ago
why are they singing an #A where it´s written A? (admi- ra - bi - lis)
ThePhilosorpheus 1 year ago
@ThePhilosorpheus
Are you sure it's an a#? i hear an a natural both in the bass part in ADmirabilis and in the soprano in admiRAbilis. A is the fifth note of the Dorian mode (the mode of this music), and believe me, a raised fifth would sound very odd.
But actually, in Renaissance music there are sometimes chromatic alterations that aren't notated, to create leading tones, and such. This is called musica ficta. However, that does not occur here; all accidentals are written in.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
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ThePhilosorpheus 1 year ago
@b0ttomzone Music recordings often transpose pitchs, it´s a machine thing I guess.. Here it sounds like it´s on G minor, it´s not the same as it´s written, that was the problem from the start, so you´re right =) thanks for answering
ThePhilosorpheus 1 year ago
@ThePhilosorpheus And of course, in the Renaissance, pitch was arbitrary. I mean, how would they know what 440 Hz sounded like?
Try to sing the bass part in the second to last bar... Since when was that low C ever so dang low?
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
@b0ttomzone lol true, but maybe it wasn´t so arbitrary, I guess it probably depended on the singers´abilities and flexibility, but I might be guessing too much
ThePhilosorpheus 1 year ago
Olá, Belynhajoy, bom sábado.
Obrigado, gostei muito de seu video Jesus Rei Admirável
Abraços
Valdemir
valdemir1959 1 year ago
What a lovely hymn! Does anyone know where I can find the printed music online?
KenoCatholic 1 year ago
ilus muusika. rahu ja rõõmu kõigile
yanuacaeli 1 year ago
I used to hate studying Palestrina when I was a student years ago. Now I just love the sound of it. This is a beautiful piece of music.
yourforte 2 years ago
this is amazing!
aMadMikhail 2 years ago
Gosh, I love Renaissance music.
Those harmonies are to die for!
disposableteenager 2 years ago 55
@disposableteenager
It takes performers' skills more.
gr4l9um20b7o 6 months ago
ii - Vi - IV - I
08L1V10N 2 years ago
Palestrina doesn't fall into common practice period harmony and thus it is inappropriate to analyze pieces from the 16th Century as such. However I understand what you mean.
Mawbotch 2 years ago
Thank you for blessing us with this gorgeous upload!
The sound is tremendous! Transcendent in its powerful beauty. Best wishes from South Florida, ~Terry
BocaFriend 2 years ago 2
oh wow... it's so peaceful.. love it
createmy23 2 years ago
we study this in choir is very nice song
gatoulis25 2 years ago 2
I'd like to learn 16th century counterpoint, but I don't know exactly what books to get t learn it. Right now, it's either Fux's classic or Knud Jeppesen's book on 16th century counterpoint.
Markohoppis 2 years ago
Well, if you can read portuguese, there's a nice one, wrote by H. J. Koellreutter, and it's name is "Contraponto Modal do Séc XVI (Palestrina)". I do not know if the book has any published translation.
LUCASFR0 2 years ago
@Markohoppis Get "counterpoint" by walter piston
suffiice 2 years ago
@suffiice or Jeppesen's books specifically on Palestrina's counterpoint
AlainNaigeon 1 year ago
@Markohoppis Harold Owen's Modal and Tonal Counterpoint is wonderfully historic. It really makes you understand the stylistic elements of each time period, and what sets Palestrina apart from Bach or from Beethoven or even from Bartok, for instance.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
@Markohoppis There's also a Gauldin's book on Renaissance counterpoint
AlainNaigeon 1 year ago
I LOVE PIECES OF GIOVANNI
1997kate 2 years ago 3
Palestrina is one of my favorite to sing , thx for the work
a520simba 2 years ago 3
wow......
suffiice 2 years ago
Heartstoppingly beautiful
TheWhupper 2 years ago 20
che pace interiore trasmette quest'inno. grande interpretazione del complesso vocale. grazie palestrina.
MrClaudioboccia 2 years ago 2
esto esta brutal
montanosmall 2 years ago
it seems that the music, for example, when on the screen there is a B, it seems as though an E is being played. Its higher
But enough complaining from me, great otherwise :D
lloydino 2 years ago
meraviglioso!
Marara63 2 years ago
maravilloso...gracias.
FredikLirock 2 years ago
Dulcedo inefabilis (ineffable sweteness certainly!...
I attended this performance in Santiago de Compostela (Spain),two years ago and at the end i was ecstatic. Sir Gardiner is a genius.
vonspre 2 years ago
Great one.
MortisIgor 2 years ago
Yo eh cantado esa canción junto a mi coro juvenil... Esta tema es precioso...
Saluda atentamente. Dany
daninu22 2 years ago
That piece was written by Thomas Luis de Victoria actually. Although, he was a student of Palestrina.
Vincentinus 3 years ago
Ignore my last comment...I was wrong. Palestrina did write a setting to O Magnum Mysterium
Vincentinus 3 years ago
We sing this in my school choir.
Last time we did the chaplain colapsed (I hope not due to the singing); we didn't stop though...
StThomasmore133 3 years ago
This has long been my favorite choral song. I am curious as to why this choir chose to have the second verse sung by men only? Regardless, it is a beautiful recording.
steadfastfire 3 years ago
BEAUTIFUL
Saymyname280 3 years ago
beautiful, lovely interpretation.. Gardiner
cheekychiko 3 years ago
Beautiful...
Dinnye92 3 years ago
bellissimo, rispetto alla partitura è però una quarta sopra (la prima strofa) e una quinta sotto (la seconda)
pentacolo1968 3 years ago
perfect!
margotlorena 3 years ago