Let's Play Final Doom - Evilution 43: New Level, New Hope

[NIMHFS]

I'm not sure why people hate on Evilution... it offers a decent challenge in some places, most of the levels are well designed, at least aesthetically...

I'm 4 hours in to my play through and have like 4 levels left :(

Can't wait to move on to Plutonia though :D

[iovandrake]

@NIMHFS Plutonia is overrated in comparison to Evilution. People prefer it over Evilution because they all have a group mentality. They hear "Evilution sucks, Plutiona is better" and mindlessly parrot the same crap. If you evaluate them both Evilution has a lot more intricately designed levels than Plutionia. Plutonia just overuses Archviles which most old school doomers have a hardon for there being 50 archviles in every level of a wad.

[NIMHFS]

@iovandrake I'd have to agree. I'm near the end of Plutonia and beat Evilution last week (it's been a while since I played either) and I enjoyed Evilution more. Plutonia has too much emphasis on being challenging and not on being interesting and fun to play. Don't get me wrong, it's fun, but I just enjoy big maps and dispatching 10 enemies with a single shotgun blast more than shooting at the same Archvile or Pain Elemental over and over while getting mowed down by chaingunners...

[iovandrake]

@NIMHFS Yeah I mean just take a look at most of the levels in Evilution. They are packed with elevators, hidden doors, and surprise encounters. Literally tightly woven levels full of crap. The levels also tend to have been crafted with more of a purpose behind them (other than just being a Doom level). Where as Plutonia tends to generally either have wider areas (not counting Hunted) populated by blandly thrown hordes. Evilution is just a bit more interesting to play through to me.

[NIMHFS]

@iovandrake Agreed. I finished Plutonia last night (meh), moving on to the Master Levels, which I haven't played yet, hopefully they're good...

[Gamerguy4721]

I guess you should have been quick and get the red keycard and then get out. Good luck overplaying it LOL.

[GrimmMontyCheif]

why doesn't he not kill the barons and just go straight for the keycard?

[SirTapTap]

OMG kiko actually used the BFG

[CelldwellerX]

Doom + Kikoskia = Bliss

[Kirukunn]

Shouldn't the title be " New level, Less Hope "

[MrInitialMan]

Just dash in and grab the beserk pack!

[QBAlchemist]

@MrInitialMan ... what do you think he is trying to do. the thing is surrounded by those barons and unfortunately there is no way to dodge and squeeze past them.

[undeadmoogle3]

All hail Kiko the Viking!

[RagnarokiaNG]

Did that room with the body hanging in it have another door to be opened in it? Think I saw a bit of yellow on the map, but never played these levels myself.

But regardless, this is what makes DoomGuy such a man, beat that level without restarting it! The manly way!

[amazingred09]

hey kiko, ive heard that you like the duke nukem games, any chance that you can lp some of them, dont worry i won't make you play duke nukem forever lol

[Gamerguy4721]

@amazingred09 Yea, that game is crap I'll tell you, I'm better off with Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword for the wii.

[amazingred09]

@Gamerguy4721 well i didn't think that duke nukem forever was as bad as people say, it was an ok game but it somehow felt rushed and overall it was not worth the wait, i think that if it'd come out on the original release date that was set for it, than it might have been better received

[MrYaotubo]

@amazingred09 The issues with DNF was not as much rushed, rather the issues were it was not duke nukem. Like: compare the overall game design for Duke nukem 3d to DNF. if theyd just rerealesed duke nukem 3d with the high def pack and 2 new episodes it would have been 200% better then DNF could have ever hoped for. I mean, Duke 3d was the best duke game ive played, simple/complex, not cheesecake easy like DNF and most of all it was done with care and alot of love.

[MrYaotubo]

@Gamerguy4721 Skyward sword felt fun! And not just like the 3DS remakes which was good but i kinda already had played on many systems already. Frankly im saddened that nintendo are just making remake after remake on the 3DS. Atleast make the prices lower then for the remakes? or include alot of bonus stuff?

[Gamerguy4721]

@MrYaotubo Agree, but what if Nintendo did this? Remember New Super Mario Bros. Wii? There should be a online multiplayer where it features an EX, (just like Cod:MW3 or WOW, for example), awesome battles to compete with players, measuring your IQ which means your Intelligence in the game( I prefer IQ rather then measuring your Kill/Death ratio because it annoying that there some players who want to reach an exact k/D ratio like you need to be 60% or 70% for example to determined you are a Pro.)

[Gamerguy4721]

@MrYaotubo See, would this be a good Idea?

[MrYaotubo]

@Gamerguy4721 The thing that really bummed me was the fact that one coudnt occupy the same space on super mario bros wii co op. I played with my friends and due to them pushing me, we died more to eachotehr then the levels. If they made super mario bros wii with proper co op mechanics and online mode it would be great. And there are many people that expects faceroll = points in the multiplayer community. Sadly good players are often the ones that get accused of cheating.

[Gamerguy4721]

@MrYaotubo Yea, I die a lot on multiplayer on co-op as well. I prefer playing single player in this game and I'm really good at this game. I'm doing some testing on my PVC lately, next test will be adding my dialog (you know, adding my real voice while I'm playing a game). I'll test that later. I hope it works...

[Faraklin]

@amazingred09 some Duke Nukem would be awesome

[BleuTanooki]

Turn the snow option on, looks like hell is starting to freeze over! :P

[Darkmage1293]

This game makes sense to me now.

Someone who worked on it realized that it was stupidly easy to dodge Cacodemons, Hell Knights, Barons, So on and so forth. So their solution?

Chaingunners. Long Range Sniping Chaingunners. And up the enemy count to an insane degree.

Toss in some Pain Elementals, and some Arch Viles...a crapton of dark areas, and you have a recipe for overkill challenge.

[GMRDUI]

The office levels make me lol. It makes me think hell has a marketing, hr, and engineering department.

[Edge2437]

Lets Play Final Doom: Raw Hamburger addition.

[canebro1]

Before you made that last save maybe fall down and run to the other side of the doughnut room from the platform of death.

[draketheduelist]

Load your old save and don't bother with clearing out the chaingunners on the outside. You had 100% health there for a minute. Never save when your heath is bloody-face low.

[SylwiaPoland79]

one suggestion: Try level again XD

[abyss0429]

IDDQD, no one will think less of you.

[kalinkasixtyfour]

no suggestions. You're pretty well screwed.

[banzooiebooie]

Didn't you save right before lots of green slime come and drains 75% points of your 100% points berserk pack life?

[AlanGarou]

Why the hell didn't you try the first part of the level again? Why the HELL did you save when you'd gone from 83% health to 22%?!

[GirlPainting]

iddqd ^^

[KiLLLLeR150]

You should've saved right after you got the Berserk Pack the first time.

Although it does lead to more hilarity since you didn't :)

[deBoyzby]

Bet you wish you could Wolverine now. :P

[BeedeoJunkie]

Sun Tzu Art of War: "If you know yourself and your enemy, you can win numerous battles without jeopardy."

[3ajku]

@phalll He never asked for this.

[Sam5726]

6:48 - Wow, they killed Kiko so hard that he had a major flatulence attack.

[Sam5726]

Kiko and youtube christmas exclusive snowflakes = Bliss!

[cornishphilosopher]

@Sam5726 It's butiful isn't it

[Konohashinobi2007]

The funniest LP episode you've done so far, love it.

[StratoPheasant]

On the lower left section of the map (at 5:14 for example), there are brown lines instead of red, so maybe there's a lift. I'd try lowering it somehow. But I don' know, I've never played this map.

[cameron20101000]

Watch out for the Snowdemon kiko.

[HeyLetzPlay]

lol. kiko is caught in an infinite loop. hmm. if you have got an android nearby, try sending a dekyon emission...

[sonofa2]

PROTIP: Shoot at the monsters until they die.

[Crowley9]

One of these days, I would like to hear Kiko say, "This level is awesome, I love this level!" Without any sarcasm, mind you.

[BeedeoJunkie]

Don't wait for the platform holding the deathknights to lower completely down to shoot them.

If you see them, blast them with your BFG, then run to the other platform (erm, if you can).

[42Unknowns]

Ive just noticed that there is a snowflake around the youtube video marker. Merry Christmas!

[HeyLetzPlay]

@42Unknowns try building a snowman xD

[Mrster]

I have NEVER heard THAT death scream at 6:48.

Congratulations, Kiko!

[darkowl9]

@Mrster If you get killed particularly horribly and are at a low percentage of health, you'll often get that scream.

[ElledarBlackraven]

Chaingunners in elevated spaces. Cheapest thing ever to be found in DOOM.

[BlooditeDrakan]

Second suggestion: Save with more health! XD

Tis not a good day to be a spess mareen... -_-

[SodaScarletMachine]

First of the Hundreds of Thousands suggestion: Dont die.

[Magistrixification]

Cunningly hidden doors Kiko. CUNNINGLY hidden doors.

[Metaldane]

Attack their weak point for massive damage!

[Tolstoievsky]

@Metaldane actually took place in ancient japan

[phallll]

Poor Kiko, what did you ever do in your life to deserve this?

The only thing to make this worse is if they threw in a couple of pain elementals in the mix.

I'm sure you'd love that.

[Rellana1]

@phallll And a arch-vile to resurrect the fallen..

[CaptainAsteraoth]

@phallll and an ArcVile. dont forget the arcvile to revive EVERYTHING

[Safer7Sephiroth]

KIKO! There's no HOPE in DOOM!

[aaronrex]

Thanks to youtube it's finally snowing in hell!

[shaunmayoo]

lol sown

[crogeek]

Finally a new level in the action xD