HALF DOG, HALF FROG, that's what they say about the modern day show type GSD, and it's true. With the severe angulation of the rear legs and the absurd sloping back they move like freaks and are totally unfit as any kind of working dog. What the show circuit breeders have done to this once magnificent breed is a crime, in my opinion. I'm just glad there are still ethical breeders out there breeding sound working specimens that adhere to the old standards set by Captain von Stephanitz himself.
@kimrox00 Hitler used those dogs because they are the best dogs to use for killing people that means those dogs are really smart.SO IN YOUR FACE BITCH
Wow, can't the handler's keep up with their dogs? Looks like the dogs are dragging them lol. American and German Show lines are destroying this breed. The parent clubs need to put some working/temperament/health requirements before the dogs can be shown in conformation or bred.
I don't like German or American lines, I just like the plain old working lines. The american lines are too sloped and the German ones have terribly roached backs, but I like working dogs c;
Coloring of the dog does not affect herding ability. Most Border collies are black & white or mostly white yet they can herd, so color of the dog does not affect the herding capability of the dog whatsoever.
One day a male GSD owner knocked on my door to ask if I were interested in having my girl mated with his male. He said my girl is gorgeous. He said he paid for his $2,500 for it as a pup. This was 2006 and $2,500 for a pup seemed like extreme price. I have got to see it so I thought.
When he brought it over I was stunned. What a totally ugly animal, coarse as an ugly beast, German working line.
@woodensurfer Your dog is a show object, no different than an expensive vase in the foyer to show off, not a working dog. Thus, not a German Shepherd Dog..."The German Shepherd Dog is a working dog, or it is NOT a German Shepherd Dog" - Captain Max von Stephanitz, founder of the breed.
@ImFlareonBitch So because he died 80 years ago, the breed standard should change to suit whoever decides to change it? That's the dumbest thing I've heard on here so far, and some people have said some pretty stupid things. A breed standard isn't something to be IMPROVED it's something to be MAINTAINED! In purebred dogs you WANT the dogs to stay the same and look the same, and act the same. That's the purpose of a "breed"...otherwise you'd have a mutt of mixed characteristics.
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom The standard is nearly the same aside from adding white to be a DQ. Even the SV has changed the standard. And, no, the breed has always been meant to IMPROVE. Expecting it to stay the same as Horand is the most insane thing I have ever heard - even Stephanitz never claimed Horand was PERFECTION. Even up before Stephanitz died, you can see a large amount of change. And, no, a mutt would be a dog of impure lineage - these dogs are purebred German Shepherds.
I have seen beautiful American Show line GSDs, German Showline GSDs, and Working line GSDs.Just basing somehting off a youtube video and making a general statement by bashing other people's dogs looks bad on your part.Not everyone will like what you like.Get over it.Take your loser self somewhere else.There are people who love these dogs and will do anything to protect it.
The American breedlines amply demonstrate what's gone wrong with the breed in some parts of the world. The last dog shown might well be vetted out in a GSD show in the southern hemisphere
I don't like the American bred dogs. I don't like the look of the table flat backs, extreme rear angulation, and they don't look like shepherds. GSDs should be very muscular, powerful looking animals. These dogs all look too scrawny to pass as a GSD.
i agree but i am not 100% for the working line though although they are good. I am more for the german showline as they show good conformation health & working ability. I also have recently heard of the DDR line & am also quite liking them.
@MakiMaki962047 Look up Altana's Mystique or Woodside's Pacino. These are GORGEOUS American dogs (yes, Woodside's Pacino's from a Canadian kennel, but still) that are 5 trillion times better than the best German bloodline GSDs so let's stop saying American German Shepherds are inferior 'cause that's horsecrap. Imp Cen's Rowland, Kismet's Sight For Sore Eyes, Windwalker's Yes Virginia are some more examples of the superior American dogs.
Calling these dogs German Shepherds is an insult to the German people...they would've put a bullet in these animals. Not even German Show Lines are this pathetic...washed out faded silver colors, saw 1 with a completely white chest, their gait is terrible, I'd love to see those American Shepherds attempt to herd sheep (because it's common knowledge they don't have the soundness of nerve nor drive to participate in Schutzhund or do dual purpose Police Work).
@silvrwolf98 None of those mutts are German Shepherds...walking on their hocks. Feminine. Weak pigment (Look at 1:23) that dog's saddle is silver. If you wanted you could say "BOO!" and that field would've turned into a puddle of urine with all of those ghosts out there. I call them ghosts because a ghost is the shadow of a man...and those things are a shadow of German Shepherd Dogs...
@katovomkozies I have a puppy german shepherd like that...i didnt know the difference between german shepherds bred...People in the street was telling me ''i think he got hips problems'' ''does his legs hurts?" and i really got scared i tought he was ''andicap'' or something...My puppy do walks weirdly but hes not in pain and can run jump climb swim...i love him very much and if he gets health problems or problem with his paws i will do anything for him (sorry my english is not so good)
@tehkittehcat I’m very sorry to hear about your dog, hopefully with some luck, he can live a long and happy life. Unfortunately the vast majority of breeders in the U.S. don’t give a damn about what they are doing to this breed, your dog is a living example of that. Their only concern is to impress their fellow idiots in the dog show world, and win worthless ribbons and trophies. I hope their arrogance and ignorance do not cause you any heartache.
@katovomkozies hes only 3 months old now...and we went to the vet and they will follow him and make sure everything is fine...if we see something wrong well he will be young and it will be easier to fix it...but for now the vet told me to no worry to not feed him too much so he doesnt grow too fast...to make him swim to his back paws works better...not matter what happens to him i will do my best(and i could give him back to the breeeder cuz i got a ''guarentee'' but i cant..i love him already
@tehkittehcat I’m very sorry to hear about your dog, hopefully with some luck, he can live a long and happy life. Unfortunately the vast majority of breeders in the U.S. don’t give a damn about what they are doing to this breed, your dog is a living example of that. Their only concern is to impress their fellow idiots in the dog show world, and win worthless ribbons and trophies. I hope their arrogance and ignorance do not cause you any heartache
@silvrwolf98 Those mutts in that video are American Trotting Shepherds not German Shepherds. German Shepherds are working dogs, American Trotting Shepherds aren't shepherds because their dismal structure makes turning at speed difficult for them, but they definitely trot and prance around like lame show ponies...
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom I don't like the American Show Line either, but I hope the German people would've neuter/spay instead of put a bullet in these dogs! Not the dogs' fault that they turn out this way...it's those damn breeders!
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Who cares if a dog can do work as long as it's beautiful! I like American German Shepherds because to me, they look better than the European German Shepherds, plain and simple. I couldn't care less about working ability!
@jfkjrlover "The German Shepherd Dog is a working dog, or it is NOT a German Shepherd Dog" Captain Max von Stephanitz...(founder of the German Shepherd Dog breed). So, you can argue with me, but you can't argue with the guy who invented the dog...well actually you can, show breeders do all the time, but it doesn't make them any less wrong...
@jfkjrlover Also, Show Line GSDs from Germany are much better looking. American males have feminine heads, their coats are ratty, their eyes too pale, they look like giant pointy nosed rats. Google "German Show Line GSD" and compare a well built, red and black German GSD to a silver and black pale, washed out American GSD with an arrow shaped snout that makes him look like a weasel.
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Look up Babheim's Captain Crunch, Rowland's Cezanne of Imp-Cen, Woodside's Pacino, Mythical Zeus of Black Forest, or Karizma's Ike of Edale; those are great American males. The best German Shepherd EVER however was a female: Altana's Mystique. She was perfection.
@jfkjrlover I strongly disagree. #1, she's walking on her hock. #2 her underside is almost white, pigment, DARK pigment is preferred in the GSD breed. American Show Line dogs often have light eyes, white spots on the chest, and other undesireable traits. Pedigree Database: Inuschka Ako Obrazok. That is how a female GSD should look. Dark, perfect angulation, nice headpiece and earset, a dog titled in work and breed surveyed suitable for breeding.
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Check Covy-Tucker Hill. They do herding with their beautiful showline GSDs.
German showlines are roached, have Rottweiler-like heads, and have the same amount of rear angulation minus the length in stifle. Helpers constantly have to literally 'help' the dog get a title in Schutzhund because they don't have the nerve or the courage to take real stick hits or handle any aggression. They are just as bad.
@ImFlareonBitch BS, SOME German Show Lines are roached, MANY are not. I will agree, it is becoming more popular BUT the roach back doesn't affect working ability like the hock dragging does on American lines. The larger style head can be in standard. The GSD standard is pretty wide specifically to allow diversity of genes. A dog can be 78lbs, 24in tall, and have a medium build. Or 88lbs, 26in tall, and have heavy bones like a Czech or moderate DDR dog. BOTH are correct.
@ImFlareonBitch The problem with the AKC is that they judge dogs against each other instead of against the standard. 2 dogs can be very different and still be perfectly within standard. When you compare 1 dog to another, and 1 wins? The "look" of the winner becomes the new breed standard as everybody breeds to copy that look. And you are correct again, many show line dogs are weak and must be pushed through Schutzhund, BUT, most American Show Lines couldn't even be shoved through
@ImFlareonBitch Also, I want to tell you I enjoy your rebuttal. It is how you feel and I respect that. But to me, the real German Shepherd Dog as it should be is a working line GSD from Belgium/Dutch/Czech and Slovak lines. These dogs are dark, healthy, mentally sound, mentally tough. And can do ALL work from herding to Military Working Dog. Herding is part of the breed, but Covy-Tucker Hill dogs can only herd, they could never be dual purpose police dogs.
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Czech dogs are the UGLIEST, much more so than West German!! Like I said, I don't give a tiny shit crumb about the GSD's work ability, just it's looks and that it has a loving temperament, so please keep your ugly European GSDs and I'll keep the beautiful American ones. :)
@jfkjrlover "The German Shepherd Dog is not a fancy dog" Max von Stephanitz. If you're so concerned with looks date one of the ugly American lined mutts. Besides, American Showlines have crappy temperaments. They're usually fear biters. I saw the GSD that won westminster a couple years back, it tried to run from the handler AND judge! LOL! American lined GSDs should be renamed, the same as Cocker Spaniels.
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom With the AKC, there are so many shows a year that one best of breed doesn't necessarily mean anything (sure, with a specialty win, it means more, but you can say the same for the yearly SV Sieger.) I, personally, could not handle multiple working line dogs, but I would never choose another breed. I think they are beautiful and there is definitely a place for them considering American showlines could never hold up in the work they do, but they are not for everybody.
@ImFlareonBitch See, this is where MY issue is personally. People tell me "Well, I can't handle a working dog, so I want an American lined dog with less drive and a softer temperament". The problem is, the GSD was designed from the start to be a working dog, not a show dog, not an "easy" dog to own. If people want a "softer" shepherd with a different look? I ask them to break away and start their own breed and rename it. By calling them the same name you're causing confusion.
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Because conformation will always be about looks first and foremost. We could rename these dogs but German Shepherds would inevitably be recognized and shown since they are one of the most popular breeds and they will gradually evolve to some other extreme show variety based on looks over drive and working ability. It may temporarily solve your issue but showing will stick around - there will always be dogs bred for show over work.
@ImFlareonBitch. If it were up to me I would impart SV rules onto GSDs and make sure every dog was titled in work before being bred. That is the only way to insure working ability and discourage lazy fanciers and their lazy dogs from ruining the breed's name. Germany cancelled their deal with the SV a few years back. So Germany basically refuses to buy German Shepherds because show line dogs have been found inadequate. In some parts of Germany the Malinois outnumbers the GSD.
@ImFlareonBitch it won't be too long before they destroy the Belgian Malinois either. The AKC ruins 90% of the dog breeds they accept. There was a sizeable group of Mal people opposing it. Many have BURNED their dog's papers so they can't be registered.
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom However, we still have to take into consideration that not everybody wants to dedicate their lives to working their pets. I LOVE conformation and I like obedience - the AKC-style GSD is perfectly suitable for both. As long as they are healthy, happy, and stable, they aren't ruining anything (after all, they aren't usually mixing with the working dogs.) Just about every working breed is extremely different from the show variety - BCs, Springers, Labs. It doesn't mean that
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom anybody is ruining anything, just that they are breeding for something different. I feel that an AKC style GSD would be a more suitable pet for most families than any working line GSD. There are still dedicated breeders breeding for work and that is great because I would hate to see them have their place entirely taken over in law enforcement and military work (we're seeing Malinois more and more now already - it's good to have some GSDs that can compare) but I like pets.
GSD are a working breed. The best if its proper bred. So if a GSD only is conformation-champion its just a pretty pet- dog, and nothing a would want. If a GSD has both working titels,is healty and and is a show champion but the last is less important to me.
@teddybear4422 They are breeding dogs with no regard for what a GERMAN SHEPHERD is; a mentally strong, physically capable WORKING dog. I would be more than willing to stand out on any field, no suit or bite sleeve, any time or place, and let their handlers release their Schutzhund titled dogs on me. I would run them off the field, tails tucked beneath their freakishly sloped back sides.
@TheK9handler I agree K9Handler. The American GSD is so far gone from the original GSD that it simply can NOT be salvaged. It has to be, and HAS BEEN, completely cut off from European stock for a reason. Not even Show Line dogs in Europe implement the American GSD.
I had an American line, ch sired, ofa, socialized, and it was the most skittish, uncordinated dog ever. He tried to bite kids and ran away from threats! I now own a German showline, is excellent in schutzhund, has fight drive, yet is the gentlest dog with kids, friendly, confident, and even my grandmother watched him without a problem. A good dog can settle down. he doesn't have the roached back and has saved me already. There are extremes in both German and American. Good and bad breeders.
YEAH RIGHT(!) Prove it. let's see a video of them doing shcutschund. let's see a video of them herding sheep & let's see an American GSD that actually is hip tested & has a good strong temperament
@gsd766 SAY IT LOUD, pal! I was at a show, in 2009; what a bunch of snotty bastards! That's my last show. You're right, GSD766, let's see some schutzhund, herding; real work. Agreat big AMEN!
There's nothing wrong with a GSD having a sloped back. Some people may not think so, but I don't agree with that. It's just the German style of German shepherds.
As long as they were X-rayed and it's negative then there are no problems.
No it's not that. I just have nothing else to say because you're not even worth it with such an attitude with a disgusting mouth. I have a life and it seems you don't......so don't go wasting my time.
You know nothing about me. So what I got the German and American type mixed up. You sound like a real jerk so please stop wasting my time.......little boy......
What's your problem? You seem to have anger problems. Why are you so mean to people? I haven't done anything wrong other than mix up the types of backs on a GSD. And I haven't done anything wrong to you that's for sure.
I don't think I started it though, because I had no idea I mixed up the backs with the countries until you said xD And you started yelling and swearing, soooo therefore, I have no problem with you or myself.
To everybody who claims those dogs are sick or improperly bred - check OFA on any of these dogs in the show theyve got good or excellent hips. My female jumps through 6' fence from a sit position and will catch up with a greyhound. Its a pleasure to own a beautiful, healthy and high quality GSD. I live in town, where my GSD is the only one from pure American show lines and the ONLY healthy one! She is only 4.5 years old and she already outlived a lot of expensive German imports
There is a difference between a healthy back sloped down a little bit and a bad, unhealthy back. You can see it when watching movement. Many of those dogs in the video look in my opinion very nice and run nicely, but there are some which lack the drive. Probably because of the back. When in dog shows with my dogs I feel very sad about dogs who run like my dog ran when it's back legs were allmost paralyzed and hips and back were in a terrible condition. There are those dogs too, sadly.
Absolutely GORGEOUS! Nice to GSD's that can really move! Nice strong toplines, nice fronts and rears, nice underdrive. Everything a great herding dog needs!
sloped backs in germany. They think this is normal but if you x-ray them in usa it says hip dysplasia. If they are bred to have sloped backs do they really have hip dysplasia? Do all sloped back dogs have hip dysplasia?
have any of you even have a clue of what you're even talking about??????? Do you not see a nice,smooth, beautiful topline??? I do not see the rear under their loin or a roach bach dog any where in this video! I cannot see how any of you think there is any hip displasia here. These dogs ARE skc registered and their breeders are in the good standards of the breeders code of ethics!!! i guess those who are jealous cuz they dont know their standards of the breed just run their mouths!!
There are bad breeders on both american and german lines BUT there is one thing that I personally see as a difference - MOVEMENT. Well breed american dogs just flow over the ground effortlessly while german dogs trot very fast and they look like they wouldn't be able to keep going all day...Just check Sieger show posts... There are a lot of videos showing dogs that look (and move) like they were hit by a truck... It is the saddest thing for me to see...
There's always got to be some German DDR/Czech line elitist ass bitching about the American bred dogs. Maybe most families don't want a crazy off the hook driven GSD. There's really no point to having one unless you are a cop. American bred GSDs are wonderful family dogs and the breeders of today are breeding very sound and healthy dogs. There is a need for both but neither is more important or better than the other. They are just different and fit into different situations. Get over yourselves
it's in the title, they are GERMAN SHEPHERDS. they come in black, white, or black and brown. when they are puppies, they have floppy ears that naturaly gets cropped as they age. and GERMAN SHEPHERDS are commonly used as police dogs. a famous GERMAN SHEPHERD would be delgato in beverly hills chihuahua.
It's such a shame what the AKC has done to this beautiful breed. The poor things are practically walking on their hocks, and I've yet to meet a showlined GSD, American OR German lined, that hasn't had the fight drive bred out of it. At least Germany is trying to preserve the prey drive by requiring schutzhund titles. But still, you don't need fight drive to title in schutzhund.
IMHO, no dog anywhere can compare with a well bred working line German Shepherd, especially one from DDR/Czech lines.
@kipchack What you don't seem to get is that Czech working GSDs are FUCKING UGLY! I care only about the beauty of the dogs, not working ability or "prey drive" blah blah blah! If you take the top American GSD show dog & compare it to the top German GSD show dog, hands down I don't give a shit what any of you say, the American dog is FARRRR better looking and THAT is the only thing that matters, get it?!
if this is specialty class why are there blacks, sables and they all seem to be working line (gathering from their angles) are these american bred? it would explain.
standard are really silly i must say because they are Ruining this magnificent animal and in the long run this breed will suffer if people keep breeding and showing the english and american type german shepherds.
please view my videos if you want to see real german shepherds bred the Sv standard way show and worked the german way
but he was added to the sv list wich is the correct and german way of breeding and showing german shepherds this is how me and
my parents breed the german shepherd has evolved over many years and they do keep getting better on the Sv side of things but people who breed
this dog the akc and the englsih standard are really silly i must say because they are Ruining this magnificent animal and in the long run this breed will suffer if people keep breeding and showing the english
I breed german shepherds and my mum and dad have been breeding for nearly 17 years and my mum and dads close friends have been breeding for over 50 years.
So everyone thinks its ok for the dogs to look like that? That is not way a GSD should look. A real GSD has a level or very slightly sloped topline. I dont care what the style with GSDs is now. It is wrong to breed them with those horrible backs.If you want another example of showdog atrocities just look at the "English" Bulldog. They used to look like boxer or pit bull type dogs before people purposely bred them for Bouledoguisme.
my sheperd puppy kuno ( das GERMAN for brave) has the most handsome face! and pretty LONG legs for a sheperd . so we want him to start agiLITY so he can run off some energy and stop terrorizeing the house!!! =3 hes a good boy though.
It amazes me how little these people actually don't know about these dogs. The owners of these dogs have more OFAd dogs, than the other types. Not sure what the last line from the last message means, but after 20+ years in the breed, these statements are as unfounded as stating the sun will rise in the west.
I do live with a GSD which is the most amazing dog I have ever owed. But I will say that I greatly disapprove of breeding a GSD purley conformation and showing. They are meant to work and that is what makes them such a beautiful majestic dog - not the length of their coat or their head size. A brilliant GSD breeder once said that to breed a dog for any other purpose then what they were meant to do is to kill the breed. No animal should be bred just for show espesially these dogs
I didn't say just a German shepherd, i said a show GSD, many of these show dogs do have a workng title, one of the top GSD sires of all time has a herding title. so to say they are meant to work, which is true, is to say people do not look at the titles these dogs have and just look at them as a show dog and dimiss them as being able to work because they are show dog.
Thses dogs are not just kept to run around a ring, many like i said have many titles to their names and some have working titles, meaning a herding title, which is what they were bred for.
@dawnlewgsd After seeing those canine athletes in a contest for police dogs, I was bowled over, especially the dogs of the Canadian police forces. Here, the dogs were doing what they were meant to do. Admittedly, I am biased when it comes to GSD's. I won't say anything against show dogs; It's a pity those folks there, especially the GSD people, treat us viewers like lowly peasants; we 'peasants' did pay our money, so, treat us nice, ok? It may shock you, but, we're Americans, too.
I am sorry but do any of you who have bad comments about these beautiful live with a show dog? i live with two of them and they are as agile and have stamina to boot. as with any dog working or show conditioning is important and you can't tell me or anyone else that a working dog if not conditions could herd all day. i am sorry but until you live with a show GSD don't pass judgement on them or the people who have bred them.
How awful. Look at what people have done to this breed - not to better its health, but to make it look "flashy".
They can't even run correctly. They're running on their hocks for God's sake! They couldn't herd like that for very long because they'd drop from exhaustion.
What are people thinking when they do this to an animal?
In Michigan we have a vet who used to show Shepherds but no longer does so. She said she could no longer breed an animal like that in good conscience.
Hah! they are bred like that so they CAN move. They are not running they are GAITING and can gait all day long effortlessly. They are judged in part on how they move, soooo logically they are bred to move easily!
i geuss the rest of the dog in the world can't move that well because of the straight back legs. i had a beautiful gsd for 11 wonderful years before we had to put her down. she never had akc papers. but she did have straight back legs that kept her right behind the deer as she ran. the line of gsd were straight back legs in the early years, akc changed the breed from their natural state to what it is now. we can argue about this all day long. you like them now i liked them as they were.
and the SV changed the breed standard... without papers you do not know if she indeed was purebred. Maybe if you understood why those angles are there you my have less to say. Actually with the elongated stifle there is less pressure on the pelvis, it acts like shocks, the elastic gait is important as they cover more ground in fewer steps then the straight legged dogs. This is important because they are herding dogs.
no my santana didn't have papers but she was indeed a gsd. by the pics i have of her and if you want i can send some of her ashes so you can see if she gsd in her veins. imo, those gsd are ugly to me and you can't change my opinion about that.
Well German Bred GSD's are well know for there hip dysplasia. They run like and accordian. Shepherds are a herding breed....not a working breed. If Germans want to classify shepherds as working...then let them. I bought a german import and he had a 7 year health guarentee from a well known breeder...at 2 years old he had severe dysplasia. I then went out a bought a buddy for him....lifetime guarentee on this american bred......lived to be 18 with NO health problems. And both were x-rayed yearly.
Taken from text: A true roach is any convex (upward) curvature of the spine. Ummm, I don't see this in these dogs. Maybe you should look again........
I can't believe the way these dogs look ! Almost running on their hocks and the roach back. Sorry, I like the old fashion GSD. Large dogs with straight legs.
I don't give a sh** what it's called it makes the bred look like crap. Look at the old photos of the gsd that were from germany. They did'nt look like that.
do you think the old pictures look like the German Show line now???? I think not! Look at any earlie pics of any breed and compare them to new pics....they have all changed. It is your opinion that they look like crap, I think they are beautiful!
I'm sorry but i'm not bitching or trying to embarass you but i'm genuinely curious why have the made the rear end lower I got told it was to improve movement to make the gait longer so they tuck the back end under them and bring it down for more drive... is this true?
Nice video editing.....and for those who were not there...how can you possibly comment about the dogs and their movements unless you saw them in person and full out....
Firstly, we have eyes and can see the video the same as you can, and secondly, I've been to GSD Specialty Shows and saw these supposed herding dogs firsthand.
The original GSD did not run on their hocks, look like they're running up hill, or look like Bambi on ice when attempting to walk on smooth surfaces.
The original members of the breed didn't walk like that. Check out the pics. Or doesn't that count because you weren't there to see them in person?
I may not have been there , but I do know some of those dogs personally...... here is food for thought.....first dog known to man no breed resembles that.
If you mean American show shepherds in general I agree. I love German shepherds and when I see modern GSD show dogs compared to Max von Stephanitz's original breeding stock it's heartbreaking. His dogs were perfection in fur. Unfortunately sport breeders have been working ever since to undo that perfection. I will never stop loving the breed, at the same time regretting I could not have known those early dogs, before they fell victim to human "fashion."
Way to go guys, youre killing this wonderful dog. Go find another breed to destroy please.
katovomkozies 6 months ago
You guys are so weird how you get so mad about something so benign. It is just a fun activity for some cute dogs...don't be a fun suck!!!!!!!!!
Erekose6 7 months ago
HALF DOG, HALF FROG, that's what they say about the modern day show type GSD, and it's true. With the severe angulation of the rear legs and the absurd sloping back they move like freaks and are totally unfit as any kind of working dog. What the show circuit breeders have done to this once magnificent breed is a crime, in my opinion. I'm just glad there are still ethical breeders out there breeding sound working specimens that adhere to the old standards set by Captain von Stephanitz himself.
JackKangaroo1 7 months ago
@kimrox00 Hitler used those dogs because they are the best dogs to use for killing people that means those dogs are really smart.SO IN YOUR FACE BITCH
brunq1 8 months ago
Wow, can't the handler's keep up with their dogs? Looks like the dogs are dragging them lol. American and German Show lines are destroying this breed. The parent clubs need to put some working/temperament/health requirements before the dogs can be shown in conformation or bred.
Fullerene13 9 months ago
i love this song!!!!!! BEEN LOOKING FOR IT EVERYWHERE
gundokidl11 9 months ago
I don't like German or American lines, I just like the plain old working lines. The american lines are too sloped and the German ones have terribly roached backs, but I like working dogs c;
Coloring of the dog does not affect herding ability. Most Border collies are black & white or mostly white yet they can herd, so color of the dog does not affect the herding capability of the dog whatsoever.
CrazyCrystalLuv 9 months ago
I like the American line Shepherds than German line. They're larger and has that cleaner look specially with black & LIGHT tan.
Billabongs122988 10 months ago
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German line gsd's both working line & show line look so coarse, rugged, and quite dirty/ ugly sorry but very very strong.
Billabongs122988 10 months ago
American bred shepherds are apalling. Those dogs must be in so much pain! It's much better to have working line shepherds.
What have we done to this breed??
TheGermanShepfan 11 months ago
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Pivcuguivutra 1 year ago
they need to add the white and black ones...
SergeCWazukie 1 year ago
Wow their hocks and pasterns are fukken LOOSE D: Floppin around all over the place.
hamneggwich 1 year ago
search k9gsd117 to see a cute gsd puppy!
CqYe10 1 year ago
Max von Stephanitz is rolling over in his grave.
YourSkankyMom 1 year ago 3
i love the GSD but what the Show line breeder's are doing is a disgrace they were never meant to look this way !!!!!
TheInsomniac247 1 year ago
One day a male GSD owner knocked on my door to ask if I were interested in having my girl mated with his male. He said my girl is gorgeous. He said he paid for his $2,500 for it as a pup. This was 2006 and $2,500 for a pup seemed like extreme price. I have got to see it so I thought.
When he brought it over I was stunned. What a totally ugly animal, coarse as an ugly beast, German working line.
woodensurfer 1 year ago
The American line do have the best gait and body structure.
I will do some insulting to the German people to have my American show GSD.
One of my American GSDs is seven years old and never sick a day. She still trots alongside my bike four miles twice a week.
A few German dog owners knocked on my door to ask to mate with beautiful American female.
Some German dogs have deformed roach back.
I think there are extremes in both lines.
Some German dogs look quite nice also.
woodensurfer 1 year ago
@woodensurfer Your dog is a show object, no different than an expensive vase in the foyer to show off, not a working dog. Thus, not a German Shepherd Dog..."The German Shepherd Dog is a working dog, or it is NOT a German Shepherd Dog" - Captain Max von Stephanitz, founder of the breed.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Also, name one other breed where people are still constantly referring back to the originator.
Come on, the guy died nearly 80 years ago. Give the dude a rest.
ImFlareonBitch 2 weeks ago
@ImFlareonBitch So because he died 80 years ago, the breed standard should change to suit whoever decides to change it? That's the dumbest thing I've heard on here so far, and some people have said some pretty stupid things. A breed standard isn't something to be IMPROVED it's something to be MAINTAINED! In purebred dogs you WANT the dogs to stay the same and look the same, and act the same. That's the purpose of a "breed"...otherwise you'd have a mutt of mixed characteristics.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom The standard is nearly the same aside from adding white to be a DQ. Even the SV has changed the standard. And, no, the breed has always been meant to IMPROVE. Expecting it to stay the same as Horand is the most insane thing I have ever heard - even Stephanitz never claimed Horand was PERFECTION. Even up before Stephanitz died, you can see a large amount of change. And, no, a mutt would be a dog of impure lineage - these dogs are purebred German Shepherds.
ImFlareonBitch 2 weeks ago
@woodensurfer "The German Shepherd Dog is not a fancy dog, yet, a working dog" - Captain Max von Stephanitz, founder of the breed.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
I have seen beautiful American Show line GSDs, German Showline GSDs, and Working line GSDs.Just basing somehting off a youtube video and making a general statement by bashing other people's dogs looks bad on your part.Not everyone will like what you like.Get over it.Take your loser self somewhere else.There are people who love these dogs and will do anything to protect it.
JessieAckles 1 year ago
GSDs are the BEST!
doglover774 1 year ago
Pretty bad whats happening to this breed.
noxkokay 1 year ago
The American breedlines amply demonstrate what's gone wrong with the breed in some parts of the world. The last dog shown might well be vetted out in a GSD show in the southern hemisphere
PhleshWound 1 year ago
I was 6 weeks old at my first show, 42yrs later still going!
travlcub 1 year ago
I don't like the American bred dogs. I don't like the look of the table flat backs, extreme rear angulation, and they don't look like shepherds. GSDs should be very muscular, powerful looking animals. These dogs all look too scrawny to pass as a GSD.
I'm 100% German working lines.
MakiMaki962047 1 year ago 8
i agree but i am not 100% for the working line though although they are good. I am more for the german showline as they show good conformation health & working ability. I also have recently heard of the DDR line & am also quite liking them.
gsd766 1 year ago
@gsd766 DDR are very strong workinglines. German Showlines are not.
TheK9handler 1 year ago
@MakiMaki962047 Look up Altana's Mystique or Woodside's Pacino. These are GORGEOUS American dogs (yes, Woodside's Pacino's from a Canadian kennel, but still) that are 5 trillion times better than the best German bloodline GSDs so let's stop saying American German Shepherds are inferior 'cause that's horsecrap. Imp Cen's Rowland, Kismet's Sight For Sore Eyes, Windwalker's Yes Virginia are some more examples of the superior American dogs.
jfkjrlover 8 months ago
@MakiMaki962047 I meant Rowland's Cezanne of Imp Cen. If that isn't the perfect GSD then your taste in GSDs is not worth a hoot.
jfkjrlover 8 months ago
@jfkjrlover I didn't say that the American lines were inferior, I simply don't prefer them.
MrOzzyPom 8 months ago
Calling these dogs German Shepherds is an insult to the German people...they would've put a bullet in these animals. Not even German Show Lines are this pathetic...washed out faded silver colors, saw 1 with a completely white chest, their gait is terrible, I'd love to see those American Shepherds attempt to herd sheep (because it's common knowledge they don't have the soundness of nerve nor drive to participate in Schutzhund or do dual purpose Police Work).
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 1 year ago 15
TOTALLY AGREE.
gsd766 1 year ago
That black one with the white chest. DISGRACE
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TheK9handler 1 year ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom i like this guy!
TheK9handler 1 year ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom wat was that about?you're insulting the German Shepherd
silvrwolf98 1 year ago
@silvrwolf98 None of those mutts are German Shepherds...walking on their hocks. Feminine. Weak pigment (Look at 1:23) that dog's saddle is silver. If you wanted you could say "BOO!" and that field would've turned into a puddle of urine with all of those ghosts out there. I call them ghosts because a ghost is the shadow of a man...and those things are a shadow of German Shepherd Dogs...
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 1 year ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom you took the words right out of my mouth. calling these things German Shepherds is a lie at best.
katovomkozies 6 months ago
@katovomkozies I have a puppy german shepherd like that...i didnt know the difference between german shepherds bred...People in the street was telling me ''i think he got hips problems'' ''does his legs hurts?" and i really got scared i tought he was ''andicap'' or something...My puppy do walks weirdly but hes not in pain and can run jump climb swim...i love him very much and if he gets health problems or problem with his paws i will do anything for him (sorry my english is not so good)
tehkittehcat 6 months ago
@tehkittehcat I’m very sorry to hear about your dog, hopefully with some luck, he can live a long and happy life. Unfortunately the vast majority of breeders in the U.S. don’t give a damn about what they are doing to this breed, your dog is a living example of that. Their only concern is to impress their fellow idiots in the dog show world, and win worthless ribbons and trophies. I hope their arrogance and ignorance do not cause you any heartache.
P.S. Your English is just fine
katovomkozies 6 months ago
@katovomkozies hes only 3 months old now...and we went to the vet and they will follow him and make sure everything is fine...if we see something wrong well he will be young and it will be easier to fix it...but for now the vet told me to no worry to not feed him too much so he doesnt grow too fast...to make him swim to his back paws works better...not matter what happens to him i will do my best(and i could give him back to the breeeder cuz i got a ''guarentee'' but i cant..i love him already
tehkittehcat 6 months ago
@katovomkozies and for now hes fine...we will know around 8-10 months if he got hips/paws problems..
tehkittehcat 6 months ago
@tehkittehcat I’m very sorry to hear about your dog, hopefully with some luck, he can live a long and happy life. Unfortunately the vast majority of breeders in the U.S. don’t give a damn about what they are doing to this breed, your dog is a living example of that. Their only concern is to impress their fellow idiots in the dog show world, and win worthless ribbons and trophies. I hope their arrogance and ignorance do not cause you any heartache
katovomkozies 6 months ago
@silvrwolf98 Those mutts in that video are American Trotting Shepherds not German Shepherds. German Shepherds are working dogs, American Trotting Shepherds aren't shepherds because their dismal structure makes turning at speed difficult for them, but they definitely trot and prance around like lame show ponies...
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom I don't like the American Show Line either, but I hope the German people would've neuter/spay instead of put a bullet in these dogs! Not the dogs' fault that they turn out this way...it's those damn breeders!
helsinkisuomi 1 year ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom go loose a war somewhere else ok? Fuck off the internet troll.
NaruIchI12550 6 months ago
@NaruIchI12550 oOo...good one? And it's "lose", internet idiot...
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@NaruIchI12550 "loose" = your mother's morals and inhibitions when it comes to midnight rendezvous! Hooah!
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom You're using those words in the wrong terms.
NaruIchI12550 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Who cares if a dog can do work as long as it's beautiful! I like American German Shepherds because to me, they look better than the European German Shepherds, plain and simple. I couldn't care less about working ability!
jfkjrlover 2 weeks ago
@jfkjrlover "The German Shepherd Dog is a working dog, or it is NOT a German Shepherd Dog" Captain Max von Stephanitz...(founder of the German Shepherd Dog breed). So, you can argue with me, but you can't argue with the guy who invented the dog...well actually you can, show breeders do all the time, but it doesn't make them any less wrong...
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@jfkjrlover Also, Show Line GSDs from Germany are much better looking. American males have feminine heads, their coats are ratty, their eyes too pale, they look like giant pointy nosed rats. Google "German Show Line GSD" and compare a well built, red and black German GSD to a silver and black pale, washed out American GSD with an arrow shaped snout that makes him look like a weasel.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Look up Babheim's Captain Crunch, Rowland's Cezanne of Imp-Cen, Woodside's Pacino, Mythical Zeus of Black Forest, or Karizma's Ike of Edale; those are great American males. The best German Shepherd EVER however was a female: Altana's Mystique. She was perfection.
jfkjrlover 2 weeks ago
@jfkjrlover I strongly disagree. #1, she's walking on her hock. #2 her underside is almost white, pigment, DARK pigment is preferred in the GSD breed. American Show Line dogs often have light eyes, white spots on the chest, and other undesireable traits. Pedigree Database: Inuschka Ako Obrazok. That is how a female GSD should look. Dark, perfect angulation, nice headpiece and earset, a dog titled in work and breed surveyed suitable for breeding.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Check Covy-Tucker Hill. They do herding with their beautiful showline GSDs.
German showlines are roached, have Rottweiler-like heads, and have the same amount of rear angulation minus the length in stifle. Helpers constantly have to literally 'help' the dog get a title in Schutzhund because they don't have the nerve or the courage to take real stick hits or handle any aggression. They are just as bad.
ImFlareonBitch 2 weeks ago
@ImFlareonBitch BS, SOME German Show Lines are roached, MANY are not. I will agree, it is becoming more popular BUT the roach back doesn't affect working ability like the hock dragging does on American lines. The larger style head can be in standard. The GSD standard is pretty wide specifically to allow diversity of genes. A dog can be 78lbs, 24in tall, and have a medium build. Or 88lbs, 26in tall, and have heavy bones like a Czech or moderate DDR dog. BOTH are correct.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@ImFlareonBitch The problem with the AKC is that they judge dogs against each other instead of against the standard. 2 dogs can be very different and still be perfectly within standard. When you compare 1 dog to another, and 1 wins? The "look" of the winner becomes the new breed standard as everybody breeds to copy that look. And you are correct again, many show line dogs are weak and must be pushed through Schutzhund, BUT, most American Show Lines couldn't even be shoved through
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@ImFlareonBitch Also, I want to tell you I enjoy your rebuttal. It is how you feel and I respect that. But to me, the real German Shepherd Dog as it should be is a working line GSD from Belgium/Dutch/Czech and Slovak lines. These dogs are dark, healthy, mentally sound, mentally tough. And can do ALL work from herding to Military Working Dog. Herding is part of the breed, but Covy-Tucker Hill dogs can only herd, they could never be dual purpose police dogs.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Czech dogs are the UGLIEST, much more so than West German!! Like I said, I don't give a tiny shit crumb about the GSD's work ability, just it's looks and that it has a loving temperament, so please keep your ugly European GSDs and I'll keep the beautiful American ones. :)
jfkjrlover 2 weeks ago
@jfkjrlover "The German Shepherd Dog is not a fancy dog" Max von Stephanitz. If you're so concerned with looks date one of the ugly American lined mutts. Besides, American Showlines have crappy temperaments. They're usually fear biters. I saw the GSD that won westminster a couple years back, it tried to run from the handler AND judge! LOL! American lined GSDs should be renamed, the same as Cocker Spaniels.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom With the AKC, there are so many shows a year that one best of breed doesn't necessarily mean anything (sure, with a specialty win, it means more, but you can say the same for the yearly SV Sieger.) I, personally, could not handle multiple working line dogs, but I would never choose another breed. I think they are beautiful and there is definitely a place for them considering American showlines could never hold up in the work they do, but they are not for everybody.
ImFlareonBitch 2 weeks ago
@ImFlareonBitch See, this is where MY issue is personally. People tell me "Well, I can't handle a working dog, so I want an American lined dog with less drive and a softer temperament". The problem is, the GSD was designed from the start to be a working dog, not a show dog, not an "easy" dog to own. If people want a "softer" shepherd with a different look? I ask them to break away and start their own breed and rename it. By calling them the same name you're causing confusion.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 1 week ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom Because conformation will always be about looks first and foremost. We could rename these dogs but German Shepherds would inevitably be recognized and shown since they are one of the most popular breeds and they will gradually evolve to some other extreme show variety based on looks over drive and working ability. It may temporarily solve your issue but showing will stick around - there will always be dogs bred for show over work.
ImFlareonBitch 1 week ago
@ImFlareonBitch. If it were up to me I would impart SV rules onto GSDs and make sure every dog was titled in work before being bred. That is the only way to insure working ability and discourage lazy fanciers and their lazy dogs from ruining the breed's name. Germany cancelled their deal with the SV a few years back. So Germany basically refuses to buy German Shepherds because show line dogs have been found inadequate. In some parts of Germany the Malinois outnumbers the GSD.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 1 week ago
@ImFlareonBitch it won't be too long before they destroy the Belgian Malinois either. The AKC ruins 90% of the dog breeds they accept. There was a sizeable group of Mal people opposing it. Many have BURNED their dog's papers so they can't be registered.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 1 week ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom However, we still have to take into consideration that not everybody wants to dedicate their lives to working their pets. I LOVE conformation and I like obedience - the AKC-style GSD is perfectly suitable for both. As long as they are healthy, happy, and stable, they aren't ruining anything (after all, they aren't usually mixing with the working dogs.) Just about every working breed is extremely different from the show variety - BCs, Springers, Labs. It doesn't mean that
ImFlareonBitch 2 weeks ago
@K9ProSportUSAdotcom anybody is ruining anything, just that they are breeding for something different. I feel that an AKC style GSD would be a more suitable pet for most families than any working line GSD. There are still dedicated breeders breeding for work and that is great because I would hate to see them have their place entirely taken over in law enforcement and military work (we're seeing Malinois more and more now already - it's good to have some GSDs that can compare) but I like pets.
ImFlareonBitch 2 weeks ago
GSD are a working breed. The best if its proper bred. So if a GSD only is conformation-champion its just a pretty pet- dog, and nothing a would want. If a GSD has both working titels,is healty and and is a show champion but the last is less important to me.
camillajonsson 2 years ago
STOP!! you are killing this breed. these American freaks are a disgrace
TheK9handler 2 years ago 3
@TheK9handler how are they doing that
teddybear4422 1 year ago
@teddybear4422 They are breeding dogs with no regard for what a GERMAN SHEPHERD is; a mentally strong, physically capable WORKING dog. I would be more than willing to stand out on any field, no suit or bite sleeve, any time or place, and let their handlers release their Schutzhund titled dogs on me. I would run them off the field, tails tucked beneath their freakishly sloped back sides.
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TheK9handler 1 year ago
@TheK9handler gsd are the best
teddybear4422 1 year ago
@TheK9handler I agree K9Handler. The American GSD is so far gone from the original GSD that it simply can NOT be salvaged. It has to be, and HAS BEEN, completely cut off from European stock for a reason. Not even Show Line dogs in Europe implement the American GSD.
K9ProSportUSAdotcom 2 weeks ago
I had an American line, ch sired, ofa, socialized, and it was the most skittish, uncordinated dog ever. He tried to bite kids and ran away from threats! I now own a German showline, is excellent in schutzhund, has fight drive, yet is the gentlest dog with kids, friendly, confident, and even my grandmother watched him without a problem. A good dog can settle down. he doesn't have the roached back and has saved me already. There are extremes in both German and American. Good and bad breeders.
missibeki03 2 years ago 3
poor dogs. they are bred with those poor legs. they cant even walk straight. the hocks wobble horribly
haleyvandewalle 2 years ago 3
Not so - they're gaiting. A number of the dogs in this video also herd sheep and can do so all day long.
javagsd 2 years ago
YEAH RIGHT(!) Prove it. let's see a video of them doing shcutschund. let's see a video of them herding sheep & let's see an American GSD that actually is hip tested & has a good strong temperament
gsd766 1 year ago
@gsd766 SAY IT LOUD, pal! I was at a show, in 2009; what a bunch of snotty bastards! That's my last show. You're right, GSD766, let's see some schutzhund, herding; real work. Agreat big AMEN!
zipper179 1 year ago 3
Thank you, I am pleased to see another one that believes there is something wrong with these dogs.
gsd766 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with a GSD having a sloped back. Some people may not think so, but I don't agree with that. It's just the German style of German shepherds.
As long as they were X-rayed and it's negative then there are no problems.
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j0hnxjxrambo 2 years ago
Whatever....
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j0hnxjxrambo 2 years ago
No it's not that. I just have nothing else to say because you're not even worth it with such an attitude with a disgusting mouth. I have a life and it seems you don't......so don't go wasting my time.
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j0hnxjxrambo 2 years ago
You know nothing about me. So what I got the German and American type mixed up. You sound like a real jerk so please stop wasting my time.......little boy......
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j0hnxjxrambo 2 years ago
What's your problem? You seem to have anger problems. Why are you so mean to people? I haven't done anything wrong other than mix up the types of backs on a GSD. And I haven't done anything wrong to you that's for sure.
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j0hnxjxrambo 2 years ago
I don't think I started it though, because I had no idea I mixed up the backs with the countries until you said xD And you started yelling and swearing, soooo therefore, I have no problem with you or myself.
dawnofthedragon1995 2 years ago
Can we leave it at that?
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j0hnxjxrambo 2 years ago
Ok, bye have a nice life :)
dawnofthedragon1995 2 years ago
To everybody who claims those dogs are sick or improperly bred - check OFA on any of these dogs in the show theyve got good or excellent hips. My female jumps through 6' fence from a sit position and will catch up with a greyhound. Its a pleasure to own a beautiful, healthy and high quality GSD. I live in town, where my GSD is the only one from pure American show lines and the ONLY healthy one! She is only 4.5 years old and she already outlived a lot of expensive German imports
Niesia000 2 years ago
There is a difference between a healthy back sloped down a little bit and a bad, unhealthy back. You can see it when watching movement. Many of those dogs in the video look in my opinion very nice and run nicely, but there are some which lack the drive. Probably because of the back. When in dog shows with my dogs I feel very sad about dogs who run like my dog ran when it's back legs were allmost paralyzed and hips and back were in a terrible condition. There are those dogs too, sadly.
ColonelVaris 2 years ago
It's still not natural. A human with a hunchback may have good hips but there will be other problems such as nervous.
nfl21fan 2 years ago
Absolutely GORGEOUS! Nice to GSD's that can really move! Nice strong toplines, nice fronts and rears, nice underdrive. Everything a great herding dog needs!
gsdgrl74 2 years ago
sloped backs in germany. They think this is normal but if you x-ray them in usa it says hip dysplasia. If they are bred to have sloped backs do they really have hip dysplasia? Do all sloped back dogs have hip dysplasia?
rouche310 2 years ago
no but they are more prone to hip displaysia
the americans created this slope for elegance but its weakens the dog's hind legs and lessens its ability to work.
the reason gsd's were created was to work and you find these mostly in german lines and tchec lines
and they mostly come in a sable color.
NoraHaidar 2 years ago
have any of you even have a clue of what you're even talking about??????? Do you not see a nice,smooth, beautiful topline??? I do not see the rear under their loin or a roach bach dog any where in this video! I cannot see how any of you think there is any hip displasia here. These dogs ARE skc registered and their breeders are in the good standards of the breeders code of ethics!!! i guess those who are jealous cuz they dont know their standards of the breed just run their mouths!!
heritagehillsgsd 2 years ago
Had 4 germans shepards, they all lived long and happy lifes without hip displasya. Boy people are fast to generalize.
miwabba 2 years ago
this is very bad breeding, you should know better, german shepherds rear end are ment to be straight, not deforemed!!!(slopped)
STUPID PEOPLE!!
hannahluvsanimals2 2 years ago
Stupid people are those that dont understand German Shepherds, their conformation, or breeding schemes, but still think it in their right to comment!
museaddict1 2 years ago 2
ur so right i dont know why they gave u a -1 but these ppl r rli fuked in the head or something to breed german shepherds like this
NetmarbIe 2 years ago
yupp, thank you, glad u understood what point i was making =) xx
hannahluvsanimals2 2 years ago
look like this dogs are very sick with hip displasya, u sick people thoses animal are in pain
rockero1590 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
thats no german shepherd
kangdanlin 2 years ago
Beautiful dogs and very happy showing themselves off! Their breeders and owners/handlers must be very proud!
tal630 2 years ago
Nice dogs.
Fightnight92 2 years ago
the dog at 0:38 looks like mine when i take him to fair. =)
I love german shepherds they are my favorite breed!!
preciousBaby1000 2 years ago
awesome dogs
akasunanosasori01 2 years ago
i love when they stack,run,and just be germans
silvrwolf98 2 years ago 2
Great video.... and the song fits perfect!!! And of course the dogs are beautiful!! Cant wait for our next specialty! Thanks for sharing!!
heritagehillsgsd 2 years ago 2
There are bad breeders on both american and german lines BUT there is one thing that I personally see as a difference - MOVEMENT. Well breed american dogs just flow over the ground effortlessly while german dogs trot very fast and they look like they wouldn't be able to keep going all day...Just check Sieger show posts... There are a lot of videos showing dogs that look (and move) like they were hit by a truck... It is the saddest thing for me to see...
Niesia000 2 years ago
best dog
alwachry 2 years ago
There's always got to be some German DDR/Czech line elitist ass bitching about the American bred dogs. Maybe most families don't want a crazy off the hook driven GSD. There's really no point to having one unless you are a cop. American bred GSDs are wonderful family dogs and the breeders of today are breeding very sound and healthy dogs. There is a need for both but neither is more important or better than the other. They are just different and fit into different situations. Get over yourselves
MindInsane 3 years ago
what kind of dog are they ?
drchoy2 3 years ago
it's in the title, they are GERMAN SHEPHERDS. they come in black, white, or black and brown. when they are puppies, they have floppy ears that naturaly gets cropped as they age. and GERMAN SHEPHERDS are commonly used as police dogs. a famous GERMAN SHEPHERD would be delgato in beverly hills chihuahua.
summrgrl4eva 2 years ago
hey it's me silvrwolf98.summrgrl,i never knew you posted this.but great summary about sheps
silvrwolf98 2 years ago 2
hey thanx!
summrgrl4eva 2 years ago
Thank you for the Specialty video it is so nice to see the American breds! They are truly the most beautiful. Keep up the excellent work!
gsdgirl74 3 years ago
It's such a shame what the AKC has done to this beautiful breed. The poor things are practically walking on their hocks, and I've yet to meet a showlined GSD, American OR German lined, that hasn't had the fight drive bred out of it. At least Germany is trying to preserve the prey drive by requiring schutzhund titles. But still, you don't need fight drive to title in schutzhund.
IMHO, no dog anywhere can compare with a well bred working line German Shepherd, especially one from DDR/Czech lines.
kipchack 3 years ago 2
@kipchack What you don't seem to get is that Czech working GSDs are FUCKING UGLY! I care only about the beauty of the dogs, not working ability or "prey drive" blah blah blah! If you take the top American GSD show dog & compare it to the top German GSD show dog, hands down I don't give a shit what any of you say, the American dog is FARRRR better looking and THAT is the only thing that matters, get it?!
jfkjrlover 8 months ago
whats up with they're backs it looks painful
murrfurr63 3 years ago
It's sad to see that even video comments get polluted with American v. German breeding... GET OVER IT! This breed (Ger. or Am.) is the best bar none!
Play nice!
SirFeaksAlot 3 years ago
if this is specialty class why are there blacks, sables and they all seem to be working line (gathering from their angles) are these american bred? it would explain.
RhiannonKD 3 years ago
standard are really silly i must say because they are Ruining this magnificent animal and in the long run this breed will suffer if people keep breeding and showing the english and american type german shepherds.
please view my videos if you want to see real german shepherds bred the Sv standard way show and worked the german way
mariahkoskinas 3 years ago 3
but he was added to the sv list wich is the correct and german way of breeding and showing german shepherds this is how me and
my parents breed the german shepherd has evolved over many years and they do keep getting better on the Sv side of things but people who breed
this dog the akc and the englsih standard are really silly i must say because they are Ruining this magnificent animal and in the long run this breed will suffer if people keep breeding and showing the english
mariahkoskinas 3 years ago
I breed german shepherds and my mum and dad have been breeding for nearly 17 years and my mum and dads close friends have been breeding for over 50 years.
mariahkoskinas 3 years ago
So everyone thinks its ok for the dogs to look like that? That is not way a GSD should look. A real GSD has a level or very slightly sloped topline. I dont care what the style with GSDs is now. It is wrong to breed them with those horrible backs.If you want another example of showdog atrocities just look at the "English" Bulldog. They used to look like boxer or pit bull type dogs before people purposely bred them for Bouledoguisme.
sbates5 3 years ago 12
my sheperd puppy kuno ( das GERMAN for brave) has the most handsome face! and pretty LONG legs for a sheperd . so we want him to start agiLITY so he can run off some energy and stop terrorizeing the house!!! =3 hes a good boy though.
kindheartedcat 3 years ago
I myself show German Shepherd Dogs. amazing breed. amazing video.
MizzJrGSD 3 years ago
It amazes me how little these people actually don't know about these dogs. The owners of these dogs have more OFAd dogs, than the other types. Not sure what the last line from the last message means, but after 20+ years in the breed, these statements are as unfounded as stating the sun will rise in the west.
redhairss 3 years ago
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Poor dogs many are put to sleep early because they can carry off considerable hip damages by the radical breeding and not run before pains any more.
Blutengel1964 3 years ago
I do live with a GSD which is the most amazing dog I have ever owed. But I will say that I greatly disapprove of breeding a GSD purley conformation and showing. They are meant to work and that is what makes them such a beautiful majestic dog - not the length of their coat or their head size. A brilliant GSD breeder once said that to breed a dog for any other purpose then what they were meant to do is to kill the breed. No animal should be bred just for show espesially these dogs
tinkerbell007 3 years ago 9
I didn't say just a German shepherd, i said a show GSD, many of these show dogs do have a workng title, one of the top GSD sires of all time has a herding title. so to say they are meant to work, which is true, is to say people do not look at the titles these dogs have and just look at them as a show dog and dimiss them as being able to work because they are show dog.
dawnlewgsd 3 years ago
Thses dogs are not just kept to run around a ring, many like i said have many titles to their names and some have working titles, meaning a herding title, which is what they were bred for.
dawnlewgsd 3 years ago 2
@dawnlewgsd After seeing those canine athletes in a contest for police dogs, I was bowled over, especially the dogs of the Canadian police forces. Here, the dogs were doing what they were meant to do. Admittedly, I am biased when it comes to GSD's. I won't say anything against show dogs; It's a pity those folks there, especially the GSD people, treat us viewers like lowly peasants; we 'peasants' did pay our money, so, treat us nice, ok? It may shock you, but, we're Americans, too.
zipper179 1 year ago
I am sorry but do any of you who have bad comments about these beautiful live with a show dog? i live with two of them and they are as agile and have stamina to boot. as with any dog working or show conditioning is important and you can't tell me or anyone else that a working dog if not conditions could herd all day. i am sorry but until you live with a show GSD don't pass judgement on them or the people who have bred them.
dawnlewgsd 3 years ago 3
How awful. Look at what people have done to this breed - not to better its health, but to make it look "flashy".
They can't even run correctly. They're running on their hocks for God's sake! They couldn't herd like that for very long because they'd drop from exhaustion.
What are people thinking when they do this to an animal?
In Michigan we have a vet who used to show Shepherds but no longer does so. She said she could no longer breed an animal like that in good conscience.
Good for her!
akula2006 3 years ago 5
Hah! they are bred like that so they CAN move. They are not running they are GAITING and can gait all day long effortlessly. They are judged in part on how they move, soooo logically they are bred to move easily!
gsdgirl74 3 years ago
i geuss the rest of the dog in the world can't move that well because of the straight back legs. i had a beautiful gsd for 11 wonderful years before we had to put her down. she never had akc papers. but she did have straight back legs that kept her right behind the deer as she ran. the line of gsd were straight back legs in the early years, akc changed the breed from their natural state to what it is now. we can argue about this all day long. you like them now i liked them as they were.
babs1214 3 years ago
and the SV changed the breed standard... without papers you do not know if she indeed was purebred. Maybe if you understood why those angles are there you my have less to say. Actually with the elongated stifle there is less pressure on the pelvis, it acts like shocks, the elastic gait is important as they cover more ground in fewer steps then the straight legged dogs. This is important because they are herding dogs.
gsdgirl74 3 years ago
no my santana didn't have papers but she was indeed a gsd. by the pics i have of her and if you want i can send some of her ashes so you can see if she gsd in her veins. imo, those gsd are ugly to me and you can't change my opinion about that.
babs1214 3 years ago
A somewhat elongated stifle can be useful, but the extreme I've seen many taken to is disturbing and distasteful.
Xepherya 2 years ago
Well German Bred GSD's are well know for there hip dysplasia. They run like and accordian. Shepherds are a herding breed....not a working breed. If Germans want to classify shepherds as working...then let them. I bought a german import and he had a 7 year health guarentee from a well known breeder...at 2 years old he had severe dysplasia. I then went out a bought a buddy for him....lifetime guarentee on this american bred......lived to be 18 with NO health problems. And both were x-rayed yearly.
k9capture 3 years ago
Taken from text: A true roach is any convex (upward) curvature of the spine. Ummm, I don't see this in these dogs. Maybe you should look again........
aligsd 3 years ago 2
I can't believe the way these dogs look ! Almost running on their hocks and the roach back. Sorry, I like the old fashion GSD. Large dogs with straight legs.
babs1214 4 years ago
roach back!!!! you are seriously confused with the German high lines....
gsdgirl74 3 years ago
I don't give a sh** what it's called it makes the bred look like crap. Look at the old photos of the gsd that were from germany. They did'nt look like that.
babs1214 3 years ago
do you think the old pictures look like the German Show line now???? I think not! Look at any earlie pics of any breed and compare them to new pics....they have all changed. It is your opinion that they look like crap, I think they are beautiful!
gsdgirl74 3 years ago 2
I'm sorry but i'm not bitching or trying to embarass you but i'm genuinely curious why have the made the rear end lower I got told it was to improve movement to make the gait longer so they tuck the back end under them and bring it down for more drive... is this true?
schutzhund1994 2 years ago
American show shepherds god they look so bad.The German Dogs are so much better.
5150GSD 4 years ago
Great Job on editing .. great song too and yes we do need more videos on our American dogs!!!
Neuweier 4 years ago
Nice video editing.....and for those who were not there...how can you possibly comment about the dogs and their movements unless you saw them in person and full out....
Urdangerous 4 years ago
Newsflash, this is a video hosting site.
Firstly, we have eyes and can see the video the same as you can, and secondly, I've been to GSD Specialty Shows and saw these supposed herding dogs firsthand.
The original GSD did not run on their hocks, look like they're running up hill, or look like Bambi on ice when attempting to walk on smooth surfaces.
The original members of the breed didn't walk like that. Check out the pics. Or doesn't that count because you weren't there to see them in person?
akula2006 3 years ago 4
I may not have been there , but I do know some of those dogs personally...... here is food for thought.....first dog known to man no breed resembles that.
Urdangerous 3 years ago
the worst looking german shepherd show dogs ever
idnwn2h 4 years ago
You shouldn't say that infront of the owner of this show!!!:P
kkupop 4 years ago
Sorry, i didnt say that, my sister said it in my file
kkupop 4 years ago
If you mean American show shepherds in general I agree. I love German shepherds and when I see modern GSD show dogs compared to Max von Stephanitz's original breeding stock it's heartbreaking. His dogs were perfection in fur. Unfortunately sport breeders have been working ever since to undo that perfection. I will never stop loving the breed, at the same time regretting I could not have known those early dogs, before they fell victim to human "fashion."
ReelDogs 4 years ago
i agree with you
right1on1time 4 years ago 2
ok thanx!:D
HinataHyuugaRulz 4 years ago
Finally, thanks for posting. We really need to get some more video up of the top USA Showline GSDs.
arsdelicata 4 years ago
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HinataHyuugaRulz 4 years ago