By the way- if you try taking the fancy Donovan Waite-style acrobatic ukemi here, that has become the fashion, I doubt it will work-and could even be dangerous. .. You have to just let go and slap as fast as you can!
This is a dance. This is not combat effective technique. Uke is diving, looks nice but what's the point. Very far removed from the aikijujutsu of Takeda Sokaku or even the combat effective Yoshinkan.
why does it never look like theyre really attacked in aikido? it almost looks like the people being thrown are throwing themselves, i guess what im getting at is how do you train for combat with your art?
You cannot know unless you try :) If a child asks you: how does the sugar taste ? you answer will be something like: well it is sweet, but what is sweet ? Every person has a different feeling for taste. The child must try the sugar to understand it's taste.
Sorry buddy this guy is not shit. I have trained with him on some of his many visits to Australia and never managed to even get close to him. And if in my clumsiness I happened to come in contact with him it was like running into a brick wall. Some of the training may look a bit fake but you have to experience it to even begin to understand the power that this guy can genenerate.
I truely don't aim these comments at you, but at Aikido exponents in general.
In 20+ years of training I have yet to see an Aikido person step into a ring and fight using Aikido. But I am very happy to be corrected on this... Of course Aikido comes from a 'war art,' - but it has evolved, as you say, and it still evolves. Evolution of life requires things evolve because they are tested in a living environment. Aikido isn't tested anymore.
Hey OldAikiDog - I think you are correct in that last comment Aikido does tend to eclipse other styles as you progress this (in my humble opinion) is due to a heavy mental and spiritual requirement to really master it. Few other styles can say this. Oh! I do agress that Aikido can be used in self defense it is just that if you do a martial art for that just purpose their are better martial arts out there for it.
do not say that it needs heavy anything this and that, aikido is equally acheivable as any other art but you could instead say that it is an art and not just a sport, but anything on this earth requires effort, however! aikido is as usable as anything, i got only 6yh kyu and enjoy taisabaki all the time in my life , wich is the body movement practice,. To use an art it does not nessecarly have to be inside a fight.
"aikido is as usable as anything," - fair enough, walk down to your local judo or jiu jitsu club and try some stuff then in a grappling/sparring environment. I'm sure they would welcome you (unfortunately as fresh meat as opposed to anything else).
Hey - Aikido is enjoyable I have done it for a very long time. Just train for the enjoyment, but please if you ever teach Aikido be careful using the above comments, because you would be misleading your students.
your not trying to be rude and thank i know you mean well , this is your opinion.
here is my opinion , if you have been going to training in aikido a long time and still has not found out that its daito ruy aikijujutsu evolved and that it is war art , a budo as much as any other jutsu , then hyou have been kiding yourself not me.
Совершенно нет реальной атаки!!! Даже Сиханы 8 данов грешат этим. Смотришь на это видео и видишь, что этот мастер совершенно не понимает, что такое реальный бой!
This type of aikido is the real deal but it is so hard to let go of strength from the shoulders and to try to concentrate on centre..but i am trying and it is slowly getting there...one day maybe just one day...
meiers - I don't know if Takeda-Sensei is doing a particular style. He's currently director of Aikido Kenkyukai International and of the Shonan Aikido Renmei in Kamakura, Japan, where he teaches. He is also a member of the Aikikai Board of Directors at Honbu Dojo in Tokyo. As an Aikikai board member his is Aikikai, but that is not an Aikido style, it's an organization. What he is demonstrating in the vid is classic Aikido, defined by his personality & body type. Soft, powerful & beautiful.
People keep goin round and round with this Aikido isn't a real fighting sport. I have experience in wrestling, Judo, Jujitsu and now approaching forty I started Aikido. They all are fighting sports and definitely work in fights and I have over 100 competitive fights. In sparring I use all these styles.
attilaclark - Aikido is an extremely effective & efficient means of self-defense - see my other comment here - it is not a "fighting sport", but a means of dealing with life-or-death situations. I also came from other arts. At 60+, w/almost 40 yrs Aikido, I tell you to keep doing it. Now that you're 40 & as you age, you will find it a better style for you because it doesn't require having a Bruce Lee 6-pack; the weak, small, & elderly can protect themselves with it.
attilaclark - Competitive sports fighting has weight divisions to even the playing field. A real fight doesn't allow for such a thing. In Aikido, for example, the natural advantage goes to the "victim" especially if they are smaller than the attacker. After a certain amount of time, you will find that Aikido will eclipse your other learned styles. Aikido contains other MA's but they do not contain Aikido.
let me paint you a picture that is true, go watch daito ruy aikijujutsu at first glance you think its superior to aikido because it has more techniques and locks also death blows, when you keep watching more and more you realise infact aikido is daito ruy but more and more fluid containing only key techniques but you will learn the more techniques later on your own because one leads to another. Aikido is not a half watered down daito ruy , its daito ruy evolution led to aikido through mori.
i would be interested in knowng if any of the 'negative' viewpoints ever really experienced that moment of clarity when you have nowhere to go EXCEPT around sensei's centre... forget the 'timing' - look at the centre... stanous
Having done Aikido for 13 years, but also some really hard arts - including Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I understand both sides of the comments here. He has beautiful form, but there is also that part of the uke "flying around him." I do Senseis style and recognise he has a "cult" around him. All said and done Aikido is just Aikido it is truely more Art than anything else now (not in all styles but this one it is).
as an after thought even Takeda (the guy in the video if you didn't know) said to another sensei here in response to the question"is Aikido really a martial art any more?" Takeda said "it is more an expression of your personality than anything else."
So that gives you an idea where all this comes from..
As another afterthought, I'm now in my 60's & have almost 40 yrs in Aikido and, sadly, I have had to use it to protect myself several times. Happily, it successfully allowed me to prevail. Although it is a "do" form, it is still an extremely effective fighting "style". Every fighting art should be an personal expression as you reach the higher ranks & that is shown by the differences in all different teachers - each has his/her own unique style of Aikido or other arts.
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they arent even having full contact... making their sensei look like a fuck.
i used to train with this 80 year old ozzi bloke he was fucken cool. used to twist my limbs off when ever he got the chance! only charged 5 bucks a lesson too!
I attended a semianr with Taleda sensei. He's the real thing, sharp, very skilled and knows how to get balance with light touch. On th eother hand the ppl at the seminar are only an external parody of what Takeda sensei does... he has a sort of cult around him (like Endo) because of the external beauty of their waza... but most don't know what he's really doing.
Uke make this kind of ukemis because he is connected to nage center, with this kind of keiko AIKIDO found the real meaning, the armony with he universe, you think ukes fakes his ukemis but his reaction ifs because he is so well connected to nages's centers, when you start to practice like this you achieves higher level of felling, and you became one with the universe
Hopefully thehymner call tell if he posted after ever asisting to a Takeda's class or seminar or just interpreting a video. Otherwise it sounds like a quite arrogant and shallow opinion.
the worst senseis are those that ask their ukes to fall whenever a technique is used on them, and not when they feel the physical need to. it becomes more of a rehearsed play rather than a real demonstration of the akido principles.
Even something as subtle as music has the power to pick you up and also crash you into the ground. Yet even though it moves you, you dont fully understand how it dose this. True Aikido has this effect. Its obvious Takeda Yoshinobu shihan is a great conductor of movement and Aikido principles.
in most cases i would agree with you...but in this one it seems like the ukes tend to react before a technique is fully executed on them. examples: 00:56, 1:00, 1:29. watch closely then you can tell the ukes actively "jumped" into ukemis. this is one of the "ki"-brain-washed senseis in japan who is mislead into expecting that students take ukemi as soon as he touches them, and thus becomes unwholesome(lazy) in his own technique execution.
Well, I was actually lucky enough to receive ukemi from a sensei whose techniques were very similar to those in the clip. They are far from fake. Actually, it's another level of effectivity then the more effective-looking, ju-jutsu like techniques. He actually moves you always in the way to unbalance you.
I practiced Aikido for a couple of years and Griffith University......love it
Wendydidit 3 months ago
shit ki aikido shit sensei shit aikido
Daniello385 9 months ago
@Daniello385 fuck you fuck Daniello385 fuck you again
Aria132 8 months ago
@Daniello385
exactly!! people like this only create bad reputation on aikido
toninovak5 5 months ago
Beautiful technique, all I can say.
By the way- if you try taking the fancy Donovan Waite-style acrobatic ukemi here, that has become the fashion, I doubt it will work-and could even be dangerous. .. You have to just let go and slap as fast as you can!
lopezb 11 months ago
This is a dance. This is not combat effective technique. Uke is diving, looks nice but what's the point. Very far removed from the aikijujutsu of Takeda Sokaku or even the combat effective Yoshinkan.
clubsprint 1 year ago
一教が凄すぎる！
mondslug 2 years ago
this music sounds familier to me yet I cant remember from where? can som1 tell me it's title ?
About the demo I dont need to comment :)
sunreaper2 2 years ago
I had to miss class today because of work but this makes up for it =)
Shinkatana420 2 years ago
search "comkaijudo" for more REAL aikido techniques.
morenever93 2 years ago
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its impossible to throw someone without touching them!!! basic physics, can ANY of his students do it????
shihanmac 2 years ago
its impossible to throw someone without touching them!!! basic physics!!!!!! can ANY of his students do it!!!!?????
shihanmac 2 years ago
I practice Aikido and have to say that this is very very impresive
sunreaper2 2 years ago
why does it never look like theyre really attacked in aikido? it almost looks like the people being thrown are throwing themselves, i guess what im getting at is how do you train for combat with your art?
Spitterkat 2 years ago
You cannot know unless you try :) If a child asks you: how does the sugar taste ? you answer will be something like: well it is sweet, but what is sweet ? Every person has a different feeling for taste. The child must try the sugar to understand it's taste.
sunreaper2 2 years ago 2
This is shit Aikido.
salishaw 2 years ago
Sorry buddy this guy is not shit. I have trained with him on some of his many visits to Australia and never managed to even get close to him. And if in my clumsiness I happened to come in contact with him it was like running into a brick wall. Some of the training may look a bit fake but you have to experience it to even begin to understand the power that this guy can genenerate.
benmanang 2 years ago 7
@benmanang very nicely said my firend !...i study aikido too and it is really great
NakedISnake 1 year ago
beautiful aiki, very nice to watch.
yummynuts 2 years ago 5
its like he has water in his body. Thats how I was taught to punch.
defect530 2 years ago
I truely don't aim these comments at you, but at Aikido exponents in general.
In 20+ years of training I have yet to see an Aikido person step into a ring and fight using Aikido. But I am very happy to be corrected on this... Of course Aikido comes from a 'war art,' - but it has evolved, as you say, and it still evolves. Evolution of life requires things evolve because they are tested in a living environment. Aikido isn't tested anymore.
Good luck with your training.
mattymojo911 3 years ago
Hey OldAikiDog - I think you are correct in that last comment Aikido does tend to eclipse other styles as you progress this (in my humble opinion) is due to a heavy mental and spiritual requirement to really master it. Few other styles can say this. Oh! I do agress that Aikido can be used in self defense it is just that if you do a martial art for that just purpose their are better martial arts out there for it.
mattymojo911 3 years ago
do not say that it needs heavy anything this and that, aikido is equally acheivable as any other art but you could instead say that it is an art and not just a sport, but anything on this earth requires effort, however! aikido is as usable as anything, i got only 6yh kyu and enjoy taisabaki all the time in my life , wich is the body movement practice,. To use an art it does not nessecarly have to be inside a fight.
Aur0rah 3 years ago
"aikido is as usable as anything," - fair enough, walk down to your local judo or jiu jitsu club and try some stuff then in a grappling/sparring environment. I'm sure they would welcome you (unfortunately as fresh meat as opposed to anything else).
Hey - Aikido is enjoyable I have done it for a very long time. Just train for the enjoyment, but please if you ever teach Aikido be careful using the above comments, because you would be misleading your students.
mattymojo911 3 years ago
your not trying to be rude and thank i know you mean well , this is your opinion.
here is my opinion , if you have been going to training in aikido a long time and still has not found out that its daito ruy aikijujutsu evolved and that it is war art , a budo as much as any other jutsu , then hyou have been kiding yourself not me.
Aur0rah 3 years ago
yea it does, its martial art, it has to be held up to a certain standard, otherwise its bad dancing
Spitterkat 2 years ago
THIS IS THE TOKIMUNE'S SON?
bebbo170993 3 years ago
Совершенно нет реальной атаки!!! Даже Сиханы 8 данов грешат этим. Смотришь на это видео и видишь, что этот мастер совершенно не понимает, что такое реальный бой!
davidovskij 3 years ago
This type of aikido is the real deal but it is so hard to let go of strength from the shoulders and to try to concentrate on centre..but i am trying and it is slowly getting there...one day maybe just one day...
guloa 3 years ago
well for those who hasn't try this aikido.
You got to experience it .
Only then you can understand what Osensei been doing in the video.
Remember aikido is wellknown because Osensei technique not by the throwing and the locking technique which can be found in lots of jiujitsu
zhentzu 3 years ago
hmm.. what aikido style is this? not really familiar with it
meiers 3 years ago
meiers - I don't know if Takeda-Sensei is doing a particular style. He's currently director of Aikido Kenkyukai International and of the Shonan Aikido Renmei in Kamakura, Japan, where he teaches. He is also a member of the Aikikai Board of Directors at Honbu Dojo in Tokyo. As an Aikikai board member his is Aikikai, but that is not an Aikido style, it's an organization. What he is demonstrating in the vid is classic Aikido, defined by his personality & body type. Soft, powerful & beautiful.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
People keep goin round and round with this Aikido isn't a real fighting sport. I have experience in wrestling, Judo, Jujitsu and now approaching forty I started Aikido. They all are fighting sports and definitely work in fights and I have over 100 competitive fights. In sparring I use all these styles.
attilaclark 4 years ago
attilaclark - Aikido is an extremely effective & efficient means of self-defense - see my other comment here - it is not a "fighting sport", but a means of dealing with life-or-death situations. I also came from other arts. At 60+, w/almost 40 yrs Aikido, I tell you to keep doing it. Now that you're 40 & as you age, you will find it a better style for you because it doesn't require having a Bruce Lee 6-pack; the weak, small, & elderly can protect themselves with it.
see next post.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
attilaclark - Competitive sports fighting has weight divisions to even the playing field. A real fight doesn't allow for such a thing. In Aikido, for example, the natural advantage goes to the "victim" especially if they are smaller than the attacker. After a certain amount of time, you will find that Aikido will eclipse your other learned styles. Aikido contains other MA's but they do not contain Aikido.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
let me paint you a picture that is true, go watch daito ruy aikijujutsu at first glance you think its superior to aikido because it has more techniques and locks also death blows, when you keep watching more and more you realise infact aikido is daito ruy but more and more fluid containing only key techniques but you will learn the more techniques later on your own because one leads to another. Aikido is not a half watered down daito ruy , its daito ruy evolution led to aikido through mori.
Aur0rah 3 years ago
i would be interested in knowng if any of the 'negative' viewpoints ever really experienced that moment of clarity when you have nowhere to go EXCEPT around sensei's centre... forget the 'timing' - look at the centre... stanous
MookRulez20 4 years ago
Having done Aikido for 13 years, but also some really hard arts - including Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I understand both sides of the comments here. He has beautiful form, but there is also that part of the uke "flying around him." I do Senseis style and recognise he has a "cult" around him. All said and done Aikido is just Aikido it is truely more Art than anything else now (not in all styles but this one it is).
mattymojo911 4 years ago
as an after thought even Takeda (the guy in the video if you didn't know) said to another sensei here in response to the question"is Aikido really a martial art any more?" Takeda said "it is more an expression of your personality than anything else."
So that gives you an idea where all this comes from..
mattymojo911 4 years ago
Thanks for your post!Listening the interpretation of the sensei make easy to understand his work!
Do you already study aikido?
FB
fabiobranno 4 years ago
yes-have studied Aikido for 13 years - 2nd dan, plus many years Karate - 3rd dan, and currently BJJ.
Just finished a Seminar, here in NZ, with Numata Sensei - that is Takeda Senseis top student.
Enjoyable.
mattymojo911 4 years ago
As another afterthought, I'm now in my 60's & have almost 40 yrs in Aikido and, sadly, I have had to use it to protect myself several times. Happily, it successfully allowed me to prevail. Although it is a "do" form, it is still an extremely effective fighting "style". Every fighting art should be an personal expression as you reach the higher ranks & that is shown by the differences in all different teachers - each has his/her own unique style of Aikido or other arts.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
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they arent even having full contact... making their sensei look like a fuck.
i used to train with this 80 year old ozzi bloke he was fucken cool. used to twist my limbs off when ever he got the chance! only charged 5 bucks a lesson too!
keglimp 4 years ago
I attended a semianr with Taleda sensei. He's the real thing, sharp, very skilled and knows how to get balance with light touch. On th eother hand the ppl at the seminar are only an external parody of what Takeda sensei does... he has a sort of cult around him (like Endo) because of the external beauty of their waza... but most don't know what he's really doing.
daigoro111 4 years ago 3
this is a very interesting thing. Most of sensei are exellent artist. But a few of them are really good teacher.
Bye
FB
fabiobranno 4 years ago
Very great center!! (hara in japanese), his kusushi is perfect. A beautiful and very soft technique...
Novum07 4 years ago
I don`t know about any of that, but it sure is fun to practice at Takeda Sensei`s dojo. Great people. Genki practice.
agohtah 4 years ago
The human spirit
has the wondrous capacity
to extend a hundred million light years
beyond the limits of space...
Let us try to purify our minds in practice.
If you can focus clearly
only for an instant,
in that moment you will know yourself
with the mind of the Universe.
Takeda Yoshinobu Shihan
induflute 4 years ago
agree with induflute
thkun33 4 years ago
Uke make this kind of ukemis because he is connected to nage center, with this kind of keiko AIKIDO found the real meaning, the armony with he universe, you think ukes fakes his ukemis but his reaction ifs because he is so well connected to nages's centers, when you start to practice like this you achieves higher level of felling, and you became one with the universe
induflute 4 years ago 2
I agree.. "feeling aikido"... Very good.
Thanks for posting!
marujosan 4 years ago
Txs Fabio!
Hopefully thehymner call tell if he posted after ever asisting to a Takeda's class or seminar or just interpreting a video. Otherwise it sounds like a quite arrogant and shallow opinion.
eduaiki 4 years ago
the worst senseis are those that ask their ukes to fall whenever a technique is used on them, and not when they feel the physical need to. it becomes more of a rehearsed play rather than a real demonstration of the akido principles.
thehymner 4 years ago
Even something as subtle as music has the power to pick you up and also crash you into the ground. Yet even though it moves you, you dont fully understand how it dose this. True Aikido has this effect. Its obvious Takeda Yoshinobu shihan is a great conductor of movement and Aikido principles.
robinfryer 4 years ago
in most cases i would agree with you...but in this one it seems like the ukes tend to react before a technique is fully executed on them. examples: 00:56, 1:00, 1:29. watch closely then you can tell the ukes actively "jumped" into ukemis. this is one of the "ki"-brain-washed senseis in japan who is mislead into expecting that students take ukemi as soon as he touches them, and thus becomes unwholesome(lazy) in his own technique execution.
thehymner 4 years ago
Well, I was actually lucky enough to receive ukemi from a sensei whose techniques were very similar to those in the clip. They are far from fake. Actually, it's another level of effectivity then the more effective-looking, ju-jutsu like techniques. He actually moves you always in the way to unbalance you.
And no ki-brain-washed things or magic. :)
azigazikanya 4 years ago 2
Very interesting...
Seigo Yamaguchi's influence, very good
aikiju7 5 years ago