I have both been suicidal + studied psychology + I think it's really irresponsible for the Samaritans to claim they can help people with problems that serious just with basic listening counselling. Giving people a chance to express feelings + talk about their problems openly is great. But suicidal + mentally ill people need proper therapy.
What, for offereing people a chance to talk about their problems in confidence?
Sams does not claim to be offering "proper therapy" to the mentally ill - they are not claiming to be"proper therapists" they are VOLUNTEERS who are trained in listening skills.
@tinylove1979 The Samaritans advertising (including this very video!) usually suggests that they are for suicidal people. I think (as I said in my comment!) that it'sgreat for people to be able to talk about their problems. It's just that they shouldn't imply they can help people with serious mental health problems. There IS a massive difference between Samaritans + therapists but they + their advertising don't make that clear.
I've contacted the Samaritans before about something which charities like Childline WOULD pass on. However, the Samaritans didn't. They are confidential.
Samaritan policy in the UK does vary slightly by region. But it is wholly confidential unless a volunteer is taken to court by sopoena to give evidence, eg multiple suicide etc, A good volunteer will not take enough information to be able to find you, it is not the purpose or the interest of the Samaritans. A good volunteer will also point out to you that if you decide not to take your life, then you should call the ambulance yourself, then the ambulance dispatcher can locate you easily.
I tried to send you an email just now. But you had friend lock on, so couldn't. Anyway dont worry, I think you may have mixed Samaritans up with Befrienders International on that other video we both watched. They are seperate organisations.
Yes people lie. Samaritans as an organisation is aware of that, and it's not about weedling out liars and cheats. I'm not sure what you mean by reality being a very different one to what the organisation would like to portray - Samaritans is not trying to portray reality as anything - your world is probably totally different to mine, etc. and so it goes on. Samaritan volunteers are there to listen - that's it - and it really helps a lot of people get through some very dark times.
The comment below is untrue, The samaritans will offer help and if during an attmpted suicide you indicate you have changed your mind they will encourage YOU to contact the emergency services. But if you have determined that you want to die by suicide they respect that too and will accompany you for as long as you are concious and even if there is silence after loss of conciousness. I repeat the comment below is nonsense.
You are implying that the services can in some way track you down using your phone, that is simply not true. and a samaritan volunteer should not ask for your identity in any way. Therefore you are confidential. As I said before if you change your mind and request help of course they will encourage you to call an ambulance yourself and if you ask them to do so they will call it for you but not by their own decision.
So assuming "Sophie" is mentally ill and has just taken one big overdose and she rings The Samaritans as she "Crosses Over" as she does not want to be lonely they will listen to her ramblings as the drugs take effect and the Samaritan Volunteer will just hang up the phone end of the matter.......
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Not Confidential they have a legal obligation to notify the emergency services which they DO to certain callers they will keep you on the phone till the Police/Ambulance or Helicoptor if your using a Mobile phone and have you sectioned locked up and injected with nasty drugs for up to 6 months.
Does anyone know where to find more information about this advert?
LukeChandlerDesign 3 months ago
I have both been suicidal + studied psychology + I think it's really irresponsible for the Samaritans to claim they can help people with problems that serious just with basic listening counselling. Giving people a chance to express feelings + talk about their problems openly is great. But suicidal + mentally ill people need proper therapy.
LLydarth 7 months ago
@LLydarth
Samaritans are irresponsible?
What, for offereing people a chance to talk about their problems in confidence?
Sams does not claim to be offering "proper therapy" to the mentally ill - they are not claiming to be"proper therapists" they are VOLUNTEERS who are trained in listening skills.
There is a difference. A massive difference.
tinylove1979 6 months ago
@tinylove1979 The Samaritans advertising (including this very video!) usually suggests that they are for suicidal people. I think (as I said in my comment!) that it'sgreat for people to be able to talk about their problems. It's just that they shouldn't imply they can help people with serious mental health problems. There IS a massive difference between Samaritans + therapists but they + their advertising don't make that clear.
LLydarth 5 months ago
thats my brother in this vid i cant believe i found it!
aarronshave 2 years ago
I've contacted the Samaritans before about something which charities like Childline WOULD pass on. However, the Samaritans didn't. They are confidential.
Branflakey 2 years ago 2
Samaritan policy in the UK does vary slightly by region. But it is wholly confidential unless a volunteer is taken to court by sopoena to give evidence, eg multiple suicide etc, A good volunteer will not take enough information to be able to find you, it is not the purpose or the interest of the Samaritans. A good volunteer will also point out to you that if you decide not to take your life, then you should call the ambulance yourself, then the ambulance dispatcher can locate you easily.
redmilkcrate 3 years ago
Are you a "Samaritan"?
wwwFamilyPrideOrg 3 years ago
I tried to send you an email just now. But you had friend lock on, so couldn't. Anyway dont worry, I think you may have mixed Samaritans up with Befrienders International on that other video we both watched. They are seperate organisations.
Take it easy.
redmilkcrate 3 years ago
Unfortunately people lie and Reality is very different to what the organisation would like to portray but thats the World for you I guess.
wwwFamilyPrideOrg 2 years ago
Yes people lie. Samaritans as an organisation is aware of that, and it's not about weedling out liars and cheats. I'm not sure what you mean by reality being a very different one to what the organisation would like to portray - Samaritans is not trying to portray reality as anything - your world is probably totally different to mine, etc. and so it goes on. Samaritan volunteers are there to listen - that's it - and it really helps a lot of people get through some very dark times.
redmilkcrate 2 years ago 2
The comment below is untrue, The samaritans will offer help and if during an attmpted suicide you indicate you have changed your mind they will encourage YOU to contact the emergency services. But if you have determined that you want to die by suicide they respect that too and will accompany you for as long as you are concious and even if there is silence after loss of conciousness. I repeat the comment below is nonsense.
PopeMarmalade3rd 3 years ago
If a person is a danger to themselves OR Others they can be sectioned "Completely Confidential is not true in its entirety.
The Samaritans by Law have to intervene where possible.
wwwFamilyPrideOrg 3 years ago
You are implying that the services can in some way track you down using your phone, that is simply not true. and a samaritan volunteer should not ask for your identity in any way. Therefore you are confidential. As I said before if you change your mind and request help of course they will encourage you to call an ambulance yourself and if you ask them to do so they will call it for you but not by their own decision.
PopeMarmalade3rd 3 years ago
So assuming "Sophie" is mentally ill and has just taken one big overdose and she rings The Samaritans as she "Crosses Over" as she does not want to be lonely they will listen to her ramblings as the drugs take effect and the Samaritan Volunteer will just hang up the phone end of the matter.......
wwwFamilyPrideOrg 3 years ago
Yes, the volunteer will wait until there is no further sounds for a period, up to their own discretion, then and hang up.
PopeMarmalade3rd 3 years ago
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Not Confidential they have a legal obligation to notify the emergency services which they DO to certain callers they will keep you on the phone till the Police/Ambulance or Helicoptor if your using a Mobile phone and have you sectioned locked up and injected with nasty drugs for up to 6 months.
wwwFamilyPrideOrg 4 years ago
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they do that for your own safety.
AB5309 4 years ago
That's completely untrue!
T0RNandFRAYED 3 years ago
God Bless to anyone who volunteers as a Samaritan. You truly are great people.
CLASSICALJAJ 4 years ago 10
this guy looks familiar.
L1ZZ1771 4 years ago
This is ace. Thanks for putting it up.
jaqchell 5 years ago 2
HA! This is my brother! I've got this on dvd but its class that its on here aswell! :-)
trickymasterkiller 5 years ago