Darwin vs Creation

[warriorprince1010]

Creation remains fully supported by science.

[DNAunion]

@warriorprince1010

Magical unicorns farting the universe into existence remains fully supported by science.

[warriorprince1010]

@DNAunion No, creation is what science supports.

[mafarmerga]

One movie is a based on a work of fiction, one is based on actual facts.

Nuff said.

[Elephantintheroom01]

Clever of him to take up both sides of the religious spectrum.

[jimmybobson123]

hehe reallifewife

[Freki619]

lol natural selection comes in many forms! STDs perhaps lowering population rises that came out of the 70s. Wars that still go on today, Food sources, look at what obesity does to those who over eat. Fighting over resources. All these have naturally shaped who we have become over the many many years, and will continue to. We are just as natural as any other animal, we are just as much a part of this universe as the sun or a tree, we're all atoms when it comes down to it. and so are our actions.

[olunda]

Well put. What we do is all-natural baby!

Someone said: "Whatever isn't nature is culture." But I guess nature encompasses all culture. So cultural evolution is still natural evolution.

Still our situation is somewhat different because we can consciously decide to defy the original "intent" of our genes. Evolution is still taking place, but the ones most fit for survival might opt out of having kids. Perhaps you have seen the movie 'Idiocracy'?

[Freki619]

yeah, I respect the notion and need for distinction of "natural" and "Man Made" or it it's variants. I just think that in the sense as a whole saying something truly is not "natural" would be referring to outside of reality. anyways arguments can go on and on about the semantics of it all really :p . Idiocracy did put forth a scary concept which doesn't seem all too far removed from reality.

[anutaka101]

everyone needs to know that they will never prove that humans came from monkeys.....God created humans, we didnt come from monkeys, they should stop making these stupid movies.....and besides they already made one about darwin and his false theory

[olunda]

Good question. Of course, it only applies to humans.

Some say cultural evolution is all that matters now...

Difficult to say.

[BinkieMcFartnuggets]

It really doesn't matter what you believe as long as you're getting paid.

[Trai1Blaz3r]

To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree." -Charles Darwin,Origin of Species

I doubt that part will be in the movie....

[olunda]

The word "seems" is an important one here. Just like the earth 'seems' flat, yet science illuminates us further.

You should google the next paragraph in the Origin of Species. It starts with "Yet reason tells me..."

[Trai1Blaz3r]

Well,it is up to us,with the evidence available,to decide whether it just 'seems' absurd,or if it really is absurd.

[olunda]

I agree.

I'd love to see what parts (if any) of the theory you think point toward absurdity.

And to clarify: When you don't omit the latter half of the quote Darwin is saying: "This is why evolution is NOT absurd..."

[Trai1Blaz3r]

Wonder why youtube didn't post my reply.

But if you were still curious...

I believe the theory of evolution has serious problems when it comes to the origin of the universe. Also I think that humans evolving from apes is an absurdity.

[Freki619]

Well to be honest with you, Evolution says nothing about the origin of the universe. Evolution explains the diversity of life in our biosphere by means of gradual change by way of beneficial genetic mutation. It also doesn't say humans evolve from apes, it says humans share a common ancestor with modern day apes, or also that humans are withing the same branch as apes still. I'm sorry you find that to be absurd but DNA/fossil record makes the matter quite clear and sensible really.

[Freki619]

have you by chance read the rest of that quote? "absurd in the highest degree. Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited..." I wish they would put that quote in :D!!

[Trai1Blaz3r]

At least Darwin was aware of some of the serious flaws in the theory. I mean a half-evolved eyeball isn't very....well you know.

[Freki619]

The thing is, that he mentions the flaw, to point out how evolution explains it. The fact is that he is misquoted to be taken out of context to the extent which it completely changes the meaning of what he's saying (I.E. Lies). In all honesty the eye isn't a problem at all for evolution, even more so now than before as we have more evidence of it's evolution than he did. there is no such thing as "half-evolved" evolution doesn't work that way, a middle stage would still function in some way.

[olunda]

Freki's right.

You should search youtube for a video called 'The evolution of eyes' (6:46). It explains the process. It is quite fascinating.

[Trai1Blaz3r]

I find it interesting to listen to evolutionists trying to explain away how the eye (or any other complex design) 'could have' evolved. But ask yourself, what are the actual.real 'facts'? And if your honest,you'll find its all just models and drawings of how it 'could have' happened.

[Freki619]

actually "asking yourself" what the facts are would probably be one of the worst things you could do. Ask a professional who had dedicated his life to the study of evolution. Or just read a modern Biology text book with basis on actual scientific claims regarding the subject you're inquiring about. And if you honestly consider what he/the book has to say rather than discard it based on your own predispositions, maybe you'll understand how these things can happen :D!

[geck1204]

Neither a darwinist or a creationist, just another work seeking human being like the rest of us.

[COUNTCARDULAR]

to the guy that wrote about natural selection.... that is darwinism. you just answered your own question. what you are saying is you beleive in the luceferian darwinist survival of the fittest and natural selection. i believe in evolution going at a snail pace punctuated with massive leaps. so 50/50

[FuzzyDuck]

Looking forward to "Creation"!

[p0ison1vy]

lol what??

[CelGamer]

Is he a realist or a believer? I'd call him a... sellout.

Nuff of dat, how 'bout them pickels?

[GBart]

So is God the bad guy in Legion? That's sort of the impression I get.

[LoveandEqualityToAll]

Win for science. Is the closest thing we got to the truth.

[jonlisha]

let the flamewars begin

[spideyrockz4ever]

*dramatically*

...no...they have already begun...

[zigsauer]

Freemason bullshit propaganda !

Its all about Power and ways to keep the Power !

Hail to Mafame Guillotine !

Believe nothing !

There will always be a straight thinking Bad Motherfakker who can deposit a dagger

in "RockefRoths" Asses !

THIS IS SPARTA YOU BITCHES !

[fightforfair]

Another Young American Brain washing show

Damn!

Looks like American reject God offer "God Bless America"

So Be It

[TinyVessels00]

And I was hoping the film "Legion" would be about Anonymous.

[COUNTCARDULAR]

darwin was a eugenecist. im in the middle. universe provides us with spontaneous evolutionary jumps. hence gaps in the fossil record ect. we are about to enter a new phase of hyper evolution. universe is upgrading our dna.

windows universe 2012 :)

[FeaRxMaGiq]

Oh thanks! lol

[carnut666]

who uses the term darwinist?

its just a term created by creationists to equate evolutionary theory to religon

[Hez0]

Bingo.

[olunda]

Exactly! They think evolutionists worship Darwin as some sort of infallible messiah or something ;)

[Freki619]

using there term "Evolutionist" could be part of the problem though :p. There is nothing else in Biology that can be used to explain the diversity of life other than evolution, either someone accepts that fact or they ignore it. I realize it's semantics, but seems like they want to use terms like "darwinist" and "Evolutionist" to lump rational people in a faith category

[Freki619]

however if I hit the view all earlier I would have noticed that's exactly that you're replying to XD sorry!

[DirtyMidgetStudios]

I did a report on Darwin for a school project of mine. It will be nice to see the stuff they left out & added into the movie. LOL :P

[isnthatAhearn]

How about An unknown entity created the universe and the universe evolved from there...simple yet complex

[carnut666]

well for one there's no evidence of an unknown entity and it would be an unnecessary assumption with no real explanatory power.

[thoughtwaretv]

@carnut666

good answer!

[CuprousChloride]

fantastic answer

[thoughtwaretv]

If you require an unknown entity, it becomes incredibly complex, not the least because you don't know who or what created that entity (ad infinitum) as well as how complex that entity is.

I vote for the Universe from nothing.

[olunda]

Had Darwin been a eugenicist, what would that have to to with anything!?? It doesn't discredit the theory of evolution in the least.

The theory stands on it's own no matter what Darwin did or did not do.

[bullgunn]

thoughtware, u friggin' genius!

[StumbleRockTV]

neat

[winterstellar]

Darwin killed God! He was such a hero!:)

[FeaRxMaGiq]

hey hey hey >:(

this is the 1st Time I comment first on a

Youtube Partner video, I just logged in and it said 0 views.. lol.

[watchurmouthyoungman]

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[FeaRxMaGiq]

what ? 1st