(Michelangeli)Beethoven Piano Concerto No. 1 Mvt III

[pianoenthusiast11]

5:23 - did the perfectionist michaelangeli hit a wrong note?!!

[bassbaritone60]

che meraviglia !!

[heliogabulus2]

What a team: ABM, Giulini, the Vienna Philharmonic: and yet what they produced was unlovely I'm sure the wretched sound quality is a factor, but the impression of crude clamor still comes through. Why was ABM, usually so sensitive to sound and color in his pianism, playing so raucously? Was he trying to create a rousing impression before a live audience to bring the concerto to a stirring close? Maybe you had to be there. I don't think the recording, though, is in print anymore, and no wonder.

[71lupenzo710]

ahhhh come dirigeva giulini che stile ,moderato ,compassato,semplice ,che ricordi....

[geertdehoux]

Actually this is van Beethoven's THIRD Piano Concerto, but not many people know this.

Geert Dehoux, pianist.

Belgium.

[gonzalojosevb]

@geertdehoux As we know is the 1st piano concerto, 3rd mov.

[geertdehoux]

@gonzalojosevb

That's its 'official' name, but it was van Beethoven's 3rd Piano Concerto.

Strange that certain facts are so unknown...

But OK, it's what in the Land of Smiles is called "a stupid mistake", not a tragedy. :-)

Greetings,

Geert N.M. DEHOUX HADERMANN, pianist.

[lavamaster530]

a true piano virtuoso

[dasglasperlenspiel10]

I don't understand many of the negative (or merely supercilious) comments here at all. What first attracted me to Michelangeli's playing was the clarity of his phrasing. He so clearly thought about and decided the dynamic shape, articulation, and balance of voices to clarify the shape of phrases, and this helped me to understand the pieces much better. His weakness, to my mind, was that on occasion he became the captive of his perfectionism, and offered "merely" excellent piano playing.

[miliona1re]

E' l'audio del video che "cala" :) pace a tutti ;)

[karlad12]

Magnifico!

[rui5firenze]

ma quando ce lo mettono su dvd questo grande video?

[howdilydoodily]

Who wipes their face during the orchestra's final tutti at the very end of a 40-minute concerto? Hilarious.

[cattleman6420012000]

Excellent. Wonderful playing and such good raport with conductor.

[shela2]

Tempo exact . as of tradition . This version is quite addictive. I feel so at home with it,,,,,,,, :) :)

[Music2Die4]

Orchestra has a superb wind section..........

[pellemanu]

madonna...accordate l'orchestraa!!! magnifica esecuzione...

[PUCCINIMUSICK]

Cioè? Cos'ha l'orchestra? Pensi che siano calanti?

[pellemanu]

si...o almeno qualcosa li in mezzo non è accordato col pianoforte! a meno che non sia colpa del video!...però mi sa di no!

[paolocongia]

pellemanu @ se mi dici che la qualità audio non è delle migliori, ti do ragione.... ma non dirmi che l'orchestra è scordata... non so se preoccuparmi per il mio udito o per il tuo...

[pellemanu]

@paolocongia okok, forse sono stato stupidamente affrettato...c'è qualche movimento strano d'intonazione ma in effetti a sentire bene è generale...comprende anche il piano...dev'essere la registrazione!

a pensarci ora mi pare logico che in un concerto con michelangeli non può esserci una orchestra talmente dilettante... ;)

[rui5firenze]

@pellemanu ma che dici accorda l'orchestra....maaaah

meglio dei wiener....che vuoi scusa?

[barneyishappy777]

his hair is awesome.

[zartsekel]

I don`t understand why people like him so much. O`K- he`s got good technique and crispy sound but is that what this concerto is all about ? It`s hard for me to imagine that young Beethoven meant it to be played that way.

[barneyishappy777]

OMg AWESOME

[koliatima]

Great video!  Thank you!

[PianoBoy308765]

Great Dynamics and WONDERFUL tone. You really cant compare him to anybody.

[frederickfrederikfre]

La mente di quest`uomo era superiore

[shakingguy]

beautifull ! such a pity Giulini is soooooo boring comparing to Michelangeli !

[ClassicalH]

I got this piano concerto played by evgeny kissin on my channel

[Ellinidara]

Do you compare magic Michelangeli's version with Kissin??...I can't.

[kempff95]

little heavy to my taste i prefer perahai version of this movement

[karakallatore]

la classe ... what a classy guy..

[iguarni]

stunned and attonished!!!!

[Enceladusgeysers]

it's really great! I think Michelangeli plays really well, and I love this piece.

[berlinzerberus]

ladies and gentlemen,your are listening to the greatest pianist of all times.

we shall never enjoy again such a phenomenon like arturo benedetti michelangeli.

every concert i visited live was a real wonder.

[ketrichen]

Tell us more !!!

[ichadzis]

@berlinzerberus COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!!

[geertdehoux]

@berlinzerberus

Gro ëte ras Rober re ke Loës ?

[geertdehoux]

@berlinzerberus

Don't agree.

As far as we have recorded documentation, Volodos is the greatest pianist in piano history.

Daarbij 'steekt' Benedetti hier in 't klavier, niet ?

Maestro Praet zei dit ook.

Ge kunt misschien eens aan 't fouël schuurvaareke vragen hoe dat komt, he!

Dieje we talles joeng, wan ten Tuur wa saëne pèèter joeng!

Well, at least that what that lunatic THINKS! :-)

Greetings,

Geert N. M. DEHOUX HADERMANN.

[geertdehoux]

Ik zal wellicht nooit het zogezegd 'geniale' van deze muziek snappen.

Maestro Praet ook niet en de geniale Glenn Gould blijkbaar evenmin.

Maar ja, wij hebben ook alledrie hetzelfde 'syndroom', he!

Groentjes,

Pie Kiët.

[geertdehoux]

"Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has left the building!

Thank you and good night!"

Was Benedetti a fan of the King of Music ?

[geertdehoux]

Notes and notes, I'm getting sick of it.

[geertdehoux]

Please, don't misunderstand me: I do adore young ARTuro's piano playing!

[GBV1961]

...meraviglia!!!!

[username1p]

Mivhelangeli, Kemff are two of my most favorite interpreters

[kajohada]

i am not quite sure whether u already do have the skills to judge what is quality on the piano ornot,because u re 13 yo,except u re a child prodigy.arturo benedetti michelangeli was one of the greatest,perhaps the greatest virtuoso on the piano.his abilities playing the piano were infinite.

[himitsunosallychan]

I can not but entirely agree with your second sentence and third sentence! By the way, as we have come know each other a little, I feel, may I ask you do me BIG favor? We are both Michelangeli admirers. BUT, probably I am not qualified to be real admirer as I believed fake Michelangeli to be real Michelangeli.

[himitsunosallychan]

There is recording of Beethoven Fourth Concerto by "Michelangeli" on Youtube. Could you listen to that and teach me your observation? An expert of Michelangeli gave me personal mail categorically denying it is Michelangeli. He kind of hinted might be Maria Tipo, though it does not sound like her play at all to me even now. So, I had no doubt it was Michelangeli. The sound of piano seems different from Michelangeli, but I was sure that was effect of recording.

[grassonist]

himitsunosallychan, Michelangeli recorded once the fourth concerto of Beethoven but as he was absolutely not happy with the recording he gave the order to destroy the master tape. Therefore the one published on YT must be played by someone else and wrongly attributed to ABM. This happen often on YT.

[himitsunosallychan]

Thank you thank you, grassonist-san, for valuable information! I am truly grateful. Because, I am extreeemely puzzled about that recording. (Did you listen to it?) But, I am puzzled for two reasons now! The first reason, the one which first puzzled me, is because the person playing that #4 concerto sounds like nobody but Michelangeli to me. I can not imagine it is not him. I received information that it is possibly Maria Tipo. But, Maria Tipo does not play like that.

[RabidCh]

I don't know, the strength of the bass makes me doubt it although everything else sounds like the Maestro. He had a very distinct bass sound and I don't know if he would choose to play with such sonorities as that in the recording, but maybe it's the quality of the recording so to me I just enjoy it!

[ketrichen]

For what it is worth : I also think it is Michelangeli playing the 4th piano concerto ...

And I agree with you that it doesn't sound like Maria Tipo (the Maria Tipo that I have listened to in the few recordings that I have found, that is).

Have you received any other information on this in the meanwhile? I am very interested.

Thanks !

[himitsunosallychan]

Unfortunately, I have not been able to glean any other information.

BUT, I am CERTAIN it sounds a LOT like ABM (perhaps on one of his bad days) and NOTHING like Maria Tipo.

Who would go through the trouble of mimicking ABM, I really don't know.

[himitsunosallychan]

The second reason, the one which is starting to puzzle me now, is because I received a personal mail from Mr. musicaperpianoforte categorically denying Michelangeli EVER played the concerto in his life, and stating that Michelangeli probably never even studied it to perform for an audience. This Mr. musicaperpianoforte claims to have co-founded Centro di Documentazione "Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli" of Brescia, Italy.

[himitsunosallychan]

He says he has a practically day-to-day account of Michelangeli's life during his performing years, so he is in a position to know his active repertoire. So, I am in a fix. Is grassonist-san right, or is Mr. musicaperpianoforte right? (I will re-forward Mr. musicaperpianoforte's mail if you like, as there is no personal information in it. It is Mr. musicaperpianoforte who suggested Maria Tipo as the pianist.)

[himitsunosallychan]

By the way, who do you think is the pianist in that controversial recording? Does it sound like anybody than Michelangeli to you? kajohada-san still owes me his opinion.

[himitsunosallychan]

Could you search for title "Michelangeli or not?" and listen to teach me your views? I will greatly appreciate. Thank you.

[himitsunosallychan]

Dear miliona1re and grassonist,

Sorry, wrong English and perhaps wrong joking, but no need to take personally. I relistened to first four minutes of video (for some reason, I have trouble today downloading after that part) to see whether I was joking in last comment, and to my discovery, my joking was confined to third and fourth sentences only.

[himitsunosallychan]

So maybe, not even Michelangeli can be Michelangeli with every work he plays. Sometimes, to me at least, his style can be extremely boring. Sorry, wrong English always, but my second opinion.

[kajohada]

study,study,study...

compare,compare,compare...

broaden,broaden,broaden...

...and afterwards perhaps you do have the certain legitimation to write an insightful comment,which is based on your education and your empirical knowledge!

[himitsunosallychan]

Thank you, advice taken. I shall study, compare, broaden. Which I have been busy doing ever since member of YT. I doubt I will have legitimation of any sort, though, because I am not in quest of any such thing, only want know good art. Anyway, I am almost certain I will not change opinion about this performance, not in near future anyway, because I listened twice and was bored more the second time round. And please do not tell me to be astounded by performance just because it is Michelangeli.

[grassonist]

himitsunosallychan, I hope and guess that you are joking, but even if it is only a joke it's not funny at all.

"Scherza coi fanti e lascia stare i santi".

[miliona1re]

himitsunosallychan, io ti scomunico a vita!

[himitsunosallychan]

This is very nice performance, I think. The orchestra and conducter does good job. Who is playing piano? We really do not need him, no? My meaning is, any good sounding pianist can take this painist's place. He does not really contributing to this performance. I want to buy this conducter's CD but never buy this pianist, judging from this performance.He has no special charm to me. Sorry, wrong English, but my feeling after listening.

[ilovescarlatti]

Caro Umegghju, sono d'accordo. mi scuso ma mi sono spiegato male; intendevo dire che in quella occasione nessuno è intervenuto per aiutarlo personalmente, istituzioni incluse.Ovvio che la legge debba valere per tutti e i diritti delgi altri vadano rispettati. un saluto.

[claudiobj1989]

I am longing for this live video for a long time. I just wonder where can I get it. I only got the CD. Oh I love Michelangeli. Bravissimo!

[HansVonBulow]

What the hell is he thinking with that hair.

[callenishss]

its 1979 dude...

[mremile72]

lmao! i know, looks stupid doesn't it

[ilovescarlatti]

Quando ascolto questo concerto,e ne ho molte interpretazioni, ho la conferma che Michelangeli è sublime e, forse inarrivabile..Il primo tempo è di una bellezza abbagliante e suprema.Un vento sonoro, improvviso e appassionante, accompagnato da una fantastica perfezione e tensione emotiva che mi provoca una sorta di vertigine!!

Divino AMB!!! : e pensare che gli avevano sequestrato(in Italia) pure il pianoforte..Mah...

[umegghju]

Capisco la storia del pianoforte della quale si parla sempre quando si nomina ABM. Però quando ci sono cose come fallimenti e l'economia ci va di mezzo, i debitori vogliono i soldi, e la legge (almeno in alcuni casi) deve valere per tutti, e lui - artista ma sempre cittadino come gli altri - avrebbe dovuto accettarlo. Se poi c'è stata un'ingiustizia che giustifichi la sua reazione dell'esilio non so.

[pianoenthusiast11]

this is a legendary thing simply because at 5:23 he hits a wrong note!! that never happened with michelangeli - the most fussy of all pianists, who apparently would cancel performances more than he gave them, and often only if he hit a wrong note in rehearsal.

[kajohada]

ya,i visited some concerts of abm and he never played any wrong notes but recently i bought a video with the 4 brahms ballades op.10 and imagine,in the second ballade he grabbed o n e wrong chord,but only one. ;)))

first i was shocked but the second moment it seemed very sympathetic to me that the "maestro grande" was a human too!!

[rabengeraun]

I think we can let him off!

[iguarni]

che fenomeno!!!!!

[antoinezygfryd]

Fabuleux duo,avec un orchestre en état de grâce

[galapz]

Perfect but boring. A bit like a music box. I really think of Michelangeli as a great pianist and artist but he played often dry and with no feling for music.

[kajohada]

...ur comment is utterly nonsense and expose as somebody who is not able to judge!that´s too bad:((

ABM was the greatest pianist who ever lived,besides a few others of course,but he was very unique and superior in a very special way,but u dont seem to understand that!

[galapz]

Looking though your favorites I see you have great taste in music. ABM has outsatnding profile of sound a very individual understanding of music but often static and no sound imagination. And what makes you think that you are able to judge? You should spend some time listening: Wilhelm Kempff, Richter, Horowitz, Rachmaninoff, Cortot, Arrau then maybe Argerich, Moreira Lima...and then get back to me. Thank You

[kajohada]

i studied almost 10 years piano,i heard kempff,arrau,horowitz,gilels,r­ichter and my truest idol abm 3 times.listen to abm´s ravel concerto,the debussy preludes even chopin and u will see how his sound was more differentiated and refined than those of any other pianist! ;)

[kajohada]

i heard them live in concert of course:))

[galapz]

I have more musical education then you ever will...His Ravel concerto is the best ever, his debussy outstanding, Chopin almost funny Brahms bad, Schubert I am not even going to say how bad.

Why you just don't say you have ABM fetish and respect that.

[kajohada]

fetish is portugese and means magic.ya abm is divine and magical,nobody has those skills to play the piano than him.but i love also other interpretations and i´m no abm fundamentalist:)btw listen to brahms ballades they re magnificent played!

[Starwalker6978]

And probably I've even more musical education than you. And I say you're wrong! But you probably don't think so; "Michelangeli is wrong on his concept of Chopin, Brahms and Schubert and you're right". Sure?! He may here and there miss some colours, but it's still far superior piano playing and interpreting.

[simmo303]

At the height of his powers he was second to none. Glorious name for a musician too.

(Unique is not qualified, almost unique or unique but not very unique nor slightly unique.)

[kajohada]

u re right--------> u n i q u e ;))

but "very" or "most" unique u can use in german language for rhetorical reasons but obviously not in english,unfortunately it´s not my mother[native]language.

regards

[floydrharper]

Thia is a gem...thanks Mainlymusic

[TJFNYC212]

I dunno I think it is a little heavy handed for this piece ................ I love ABM especially in Mozart the d minor is the best................. this comcerto belongs to Argerich supposedly his student..............

[wironalga]

Giulini & Michelangeli. The most polite conductor ever, assisting one of the most uneasy keyboard artist ever.... A most unique live occasion to savour

[kajohada]

...this unforgettable pianist plays beethoven,how amazing,i went to his concertos so often,but sometimes in vain,because he cancelled them,but he is up to now my truest idol,because no one has those skills to play the piano like him!!! :))

i adore him very much!

[AllUserNamesTaken111]

OMG, I just realized something very very important (I'm practicing this piece and had used this as a guide...unfortunately). Michelangeli, Zimerman, and Perahia actually have the beat completely wrong in the first few measures. The downbeat is on the second note, not first as he plays it. Just listen to the orchestra, or look at the score. This is a warning to all of you who might be learning this. Listen to Lang Lang's recording--he's got it right there.

[nickchubby2008]

The downbeat on the first note is just a bit less than on the second note, that's what makes think he has it wrong. In fact, it would sound stupid if the second note's accent were significantly stronger as the score tells. He smoothed the difference intuitively and he was right.

[embenadorfinearts]

Double musical Beethoven's re-creation Giulini and Michelangeli. The same sense of large phrases and articulations. We are immersed wia a magic carpet into another world. Thank you for posting this video.

[antoinezygfryd]

Un duo fantastique!tout y est...même la magie.

[nizehclo123]

excellent!!!

[suzettegm]

Absolutely mainly music, thanks for posting!

[ipmoic]

My father, who actually played recitals with him during the second World War, (!) told me that he was already a very strange guy--even at age 20-21. He sometimes didn't show for concerts even then. But genius has many faces...

[dpkaiser]

What sort of strange things did he use to do?

[ilovescarlatti]

Dear z666z666z, im totally in agreement with you.!!! our divine ABM and Giulini also made a very very nice performance for all 3 Beethoven piano concertos. ABM has played having fantastic sound and and and and.. all (oh! the 1st mov, of the 1st piano conc: i never heard a similar of...!!) Do you agree ? Best wishes from Italy, Como lake.

[ilovescarlatti]

Dear fiends, please post also the 1st mov. in which ABM make fantastic, fantastic performance!!!!!!!!.

[z666z666z]

Great .....great and great.........

Bravo Michelangelli.

Uno dei piú grandi di tutti tempi.

Bravo.

666

[kajohada]

simply g o r g e o u s!

[ketrichen]

This is my favorite Beethoven concerto and I have never heard it played better than by Michelangeli.

But then again, I think Michelangeli was a Great Musician and whatever he chose to touch, turned into a gem.

Thanks very much for sharing,Mainlymuzik! These kinds of recordings are not all that easy to find nowadays.

[marrieter08]

they say that he is a hypochondricac, is'nt he?

[berti48]

not at all! extraordinary personality and genious. Get informed.

He died in 1995 (you should have written "he was")

[SEMPRELISZT]

he might have been. I know he had some obsessions like not wanting to play concerts because the piano was out of tune for his perfect and beatiful ears. There is an interview in which Celibidache tells about this. Arturo also did not like interviews at all. Of course, he was a great pianist. However, I find the ending of some phrases a bit rushy. I know this is not Chopin, but phrases shouldn't end so abruptly in some cases (check what happens from 3:05 to 3:10).

[z666z666z]

Hi marrieter08.He was not only hipochondriac,but he had a lots of pathologies.But who care when somebody plays like a God.

In fact,he studied medicine too...a very strange personality..but what is funny is maybe many german listen to this and they would say:

Is not in "Style"...

like the Brendel fanatics.LOL.

Michelangelli was always "Over"the style. Pianists as him,as Rubinstein,as Horowitz, have their own rules over the standard.

And also my deep admiration to Carlo Maria Giullini

666

[kajohada]

......i would completely agree with that. my highest adoration both tot he conductor and particularly arturo benedetti michelangeli one of the greatest of any times!

[embenadorfinearts]

SIMPLY MIRAVIGLIOSO ! WHAT A MUSICAL PHRASE AND WHAT A TOUCH ! MICHELANGELI AND GIULINI THE BEST LIKE MICHELANGELI AND CELIBIDACHE. Thank you for posting this video

[batuhanuzgoren]

Can you post the first movement as well?

[lipattihaskill]

And the second as well please!!

[iguarni]

Maestro sei stato, sei e sarai sempre l'orgoglio di noi italiani!!!!

[ytpiano7]

Per piaciere..lasciare accanto il "Chauvinismo". Benedetti appartiene al mondo dei musicisti e della gente che e involta in musica. Lui e Universale. Grande Arturo.

ytpiano7

[iguarni]

proprio perchè appartiene al mondo della musica dobbiamo essere orgogliosi di lui!! Visto come viene non insegnata e vilipesa oggi in Italia!!!!

[CucciolodiBach]

Grande

[mekmiller]

mainlymuzik.. thank you very much, so beautiful....!

[KlassikFan2007]

Great video, thank you!

[0OoFACUoO0]

Excellent! very nice piano concerto

This video deserves 5 stars!