I'm sure I'm not alone when I call this an ironic case. Now the tables have been turned; the hunter becomes the hunted. He cries for help with a forward stroke and with his back stroke he mocks the very people that he's depending on. This is what I believe is called biting the hand that feeds you. Rumor says you're not supposed to do that sorta thing. I was going to lend a personal hand, but your forked tongue has changed my mind. I'm sorry, Geerup. You did it to yourself.
sablechicken, what did you think of the false claims against the many others who just happen to not believe in your chosen invisible, intangible, curiously absent deity?
I understand the "support the troops" no matter what attitude. It's that, "us vs them" concept which binds the "us's" & those "thems" to their prospective faction.
However, if one supports a tactic (like say for instance, torture) what right do they have to complain when it is used against them?
How did you feel when VenomFangX was false DMCAing hundreds of people?
All of those channels silenced by VFX. All those users having their freedom of speech taken away from them by a little troll who didn't like what they had to say.
As long as your videos do not contain "dropped docs", entire videos of others used in violation of the Fair Use clause or YouTube TOS, I would be willing to mirror them. The same applies to all controversial videos. Why would you be surprised that Atheists of note can be taken at their word?
Well, sure Geerup, I'll support you. After all the videos you made condemning the false DMCA's against Thunderf00t, DPRJones etc...
Wait, you didn't make any videos about that did you? You didn't explicitly deplore the actions of the person that DMCA'd other atheists did you?
I will give you support.. of course, the next time someone on the other side of the theological divide is DMCA'd, we well see you return in kind. Wont we ?
You know damn well that atheists support free speech. We've mirrored kassiedill's video, geerup's video, brock's video.
When the hell have you mirrored a video by an atheist? Where was GEERUP when Shawn was filing false DMCAs? Thats right, GEERUP supported it.
You are all silent when atheists get attacked, yet your ilk has asked for help and we've given it. Still, you don't show a single ounce of respect. Not fucking one bit.
Ill get kind of miffed, but no ill not fight to the death for someone like you. You stood by when other youtubers were getting votebotted and false dmca'ed. Now we have to fight for you? LOL>
For Geerup: Why not take all of this information and give it to the FBI for proper criminal investigation. This is why I was so dead-set for dprjones to do so with VFX. That is where the line in the sand should have been drawn. Someone is going to have to be made an example before people stop abusing the DMCA filing.
As much as I support freedom of speech, I find it hard to support GEERUP. If one asks for freedom of speech, as he is, surely he should also respect other peoples free speech?
Without doing so makes his argument from freedom particularly void.
i agree u don't deserve to be silenced like this through false dmca's... ...on another note:
u sure as hell don't deserve help from the same athiests which u didn't give 2 shits about when shawn was filing false dmca's against them!
even in this video u can't help slamming athiests with your "persecution" BS! u realize how many athiests u blocked from your channel, and now u try and goad them into helping u?!
Indeed the irony here is stunningly poetic. GeerUp even mocked the term "False DMCA" when Shawn was being dealt with. I hope that this little incident opens your eyes GeerUP to just how important these freedoms are because this is how quickly they can be taken away. This is what it's felt like to every person you've blocked from your channel for simply having a differing opinion and challenging your claims. (cont)
...As much as I personally would like to see you eat some crow for a while, if these DMCA's are in fact false, then I absolutely support you and openly condemn whoever has filed them. They are no defender of reason or freedoms if false DMCA's are the tactic they wish to use and will ultimately only succeed in damaging the cause.
I hope in the future you yourself will be more open to assisting those who might find themselves in the place you find yourself now.
I think that (if) once Geerup gets his channel back, he remove all the bans he placed on users who didn't agree with his opinion. Like Thunderfoot and DPRJones.
Heck, even I managed to get on his ban list somehow.
When Thunderf00t and Dprjones were falsely DMCA'ed by VenomfangX, How come you did not defend them and call Shawn out on his wrong doings? Instead, you tried to make Shawn a youtube martyr for your own personal gain. Now that the tables have turned you are asking the same people you condemned for protecting their rights to now protect yours. How ironic. By the way, since when were you a champion of freedom of speech? You had no problem blocking out their opinions. Wheres their freedom of speech?
Well, as always the "atheist parasites" DO support anyone whos been falsely flagged.
GEERUP, seriously, where have YOU been?
How come you appear to be unaware of the support that is given to ALL YouTube members who have asked for help after getting falsely flagged?
Moroever, why do you think this has ANYTHING to do with your message or videos? Why MUST this issue be a matter of "the atheists parasites vs the righteous Christians"?
This was ONE individual behind this, do you understand?
Geerup I don't agree with anything you say, But if I can help in any way to allow you to say it, you let me know. I'm a nobody from nowhere and I don't know what I can do to help, but free speech is free speech. And censorship should not stood for. We stand with you in this.
well it sucks when it false DMCA in turned against you eh? Well False DMCA is wrong no matter against who.....well will help you for the purpose of free speech but hope you see how it suck now and help your opposition when they get false flagged.
@4:57 - correct, it's fair use. Nobody should be filing a false DMCA.
I'm an atheist, but I have mirrored this video
Geerup and other Christians, add your voice to the chorus of people complaining to YouTube about the broken censorship system
See the AndromedasWake video & follow the links in the sidebar. There's an online petition with 7,500+ signatures and the issues board at Google has 4,500+ stars. Add your voices to this cause. This isn't about theists vs. atheists
And they used Shaun (the King of false DMCA's) name. LOL, ow the poetic justice.
I would never support false flagging... but damn the poetic justice to Geerup for supporting VFX while doing his own false DMCA rampage is ow so funny.
This business about atheists defending the right of free speech until the death is a bunch of bologna. Satan and his minions are on the prowl and their goal is to silence the Word of God by any means necessary. Devils cannot tolerate Truth.
careful of what u say about us heathen atheists, u might ask one for help one day just like geerup's doing now =P
its a miracle that there are ahtiests out there who will help ppl like u no matter how many times u censor them and pelt them with your hateful shit >=/
It also tends to only be the creationists with the votebot attacks.
Atheists dont need to hide facts, because the facts are always on our side.
Theists have tried to cover up the truth, hence why blasphemy was once a crime. But with the advancement of free speech, the truth can be heard, hence why atheism is growing, and christianity i shrinking.
Good luck with your blind ignorant faith. I'll just stick to intelligence thanks.
Not when coming from the bible as your axiom. It is the unpardonable sin according to some believers, which makes it not only not 'victimless', but the most heinous of crimes against someone.
'It tends to only be the creationists with the votebot attacks.'
That is as hard for even a creationist to read as it is for a pre-reprobate mind such as yourself to read Jesus must save you from your sin to keep you out of hell
Funny, because we atheists are actually springing into action to indeed defend the right of free speech. Check dprjones' channel, he's just posted a video in support of geerup, and I myself am right now in the process of mirroring this video here.
Geerup, your complaints are perfectly valid, and would have been very welcome during the earlier false DMCA storms when Shawn (among others) struck at the YouTube atheists (and dropped DPRJones' docs).
Can we expect your voice in tackling these false-flagging cowards in the future?
I'm a very minor presence on YouTube, but I've been doing what I can in the real world, getting people to petition YouTube to reform its DMCA practices (such as through this practice: watch?v=BkwwX1cRRRU).
If i could/can i will defend your right to freedom of speech with out qualm or question, even despite your own tendacy to not uphold it yourself and that, in my opinion, you use it to talk utter nonsense.
Maybe the general response from the amoral atheists will help you reconsider your position on them
this is not a war between christians and atheists. this is between freedom of speech and trolls. both christians and atheists have been false flagged and false dmca'd
Good luck fighting this DMCA from a Canadian Purist Atheist. I've already petitioned youtube to change their suspension policies. You don't deserve any suspension although maybe you can empathize with some of the other suspended channels now.
Geerup, of course dpr would help you and I'd suspect most atheists would voice an opinion of support, myself included. Abuse of the DMCA is wrong and I've never noticed you breaking any copryright laws so I support your right to say what you want.
Make the real VenomfangX partner of your channel and you guys can legally give his personal information in the counter notice. That information is already leaked, and that information isn't what the troll wants. He probably has that information already. Or make someone else partner of your channel that is willing to give his/her personal information to the troll.
Despite having no support from you in these matters in the past, despite all the disagreements and despite our general dislike of your person (and Brock's), we will support you.
You might want to rethink your generalizations of atheist morals.
Although I disagree wholeheartedly with your religious views and your stated beliefs in your videos, your right to say what you want to say should not be infringed.
I hope your struggles against DMCA abuse turns out in your favor. Good luck.
Geerup, even though you're a major asshole, I'll still support your right to express your opinion by featuring this on my channel because I dislike DMCA abuse far more than I dislike you.
Good for you for deciding to start a new channel and not playing games with imbeciles who ruin the public forum here on youtube.
I laughed so hard when I saw that "Darwin's Theory Of Evolution Is Dead" had been flagged. You're just sitting in your car talking to a camera. Apparetly this S. Karon claims copyright on the outside public world?
It's a sad attempt of kicking a dead horse. The VFX thing is over, troll. I hear CopperCab is the new thing. Move on and grow up.
No they're not. And if they are you haven't linked us to any reliable sources. What is your definition of "atheists"? Do you mean just 2-3 people or do you mean thousands?
And what about the Christians? Maybe your bias choices make you visit more atheist channels than Christian channels? Maybe you don't realise that this isn't just happening in atheist/christian channels?
maybe it's happening to vloggers and item reviewers. stop being bias.
And americanjognlodge wasn't being bias? I admit to my bias there is nothing I can do to not be at least little bias. This is far from a new thing happening here the false flagging has been going on sense I got on youtube. The only thing that has changed is the fact it's happening to people someone cares about now.Goes to proves most people don't care unless it effects them personally.
Where have you been? Many well-known atheist channels (I define "atheist" as being those that say they are atheist and are involved in the religious debate) have all been hit usually multiple times, not only with false DMCAs but with false-flagging and vote-botting. To name but a few: Thunderf00t, PatCondell, Desertphile, DonExodus2, dprJones, Coughlan666, Vogter2100, TXHalabi, EdibleNapalm2, Saturninefilms, FactVSReligion, stefzula, AbdultheImpailler, and Philhellenes.
Where have you been? Many well-known atheist channels have all been hit...multiple times with false DMCAs, false-flagging and vote-botting.
To name but a few: Thunderf00t, PatCondell, Desertphile, DonExodus2, dprJones, Coughlan666, Vogter2100, TXHalabi, EdibleNapalm2, Saturninefilms, FactVSReligion, stefzula, AbdultheImpailler, and Philhellenes.
you will find you will make sure you post your videos on every site all over the world and rise above it I like you tube because of the people on it this is the only advantage youtube has over some of the other sites when they lose that they will lose
and just be a wast of time advertising channel full of plastic people saying plastic trhgings There is a balance at the moment. but you point out a big problem
Geerup... I usually disagree with everything you say... but being DMCA'd falsely is a crime.... and completely horrible. You've got my support.... being silenced in this way is wrong.
Despite everything, I will support Geerup in this. Even though he never lifted a finger to help me when I received 21 false DMCAs recently. I may not agree with what he says but violating someone's free speech is rotten and I disagree with it.
If you can get in contact with VFX, then you can ask him to write an email to YouTube's legal department to inform them that the DMCAs were not filed by him.
Youtube should not allow DMCA claims without a court order. In other words unless someone goes to court and the judge agrees it should be IMPOSSIBLE to do this. This would end all the false claims right away and people would think twice before going to court. Said to hear this geerup .. I hope you will stay on youtube and let us all know your new channel if you can't keep the old one !
the whole DMCA and flagging system is completely broken on YouTube - They will not listen to the users we do not generate income for them. However letting their advertisers know that we will not as a community purchase their products untill THEY bring pressure to bear on YT may well be an answer.
No one should be false DMCA'd not Atheist nor Christian
Here's the thing, you pretty much said you aren't going to take your legal recourse, and you are challenging your opponents to help you. You aren't asking for help from your proponents nor are you asking it from your opponents...Ya didn't lift a finger to help others and are probably in some way responsible for false DMCA's but now it happens to you and you are trying to call others out as frauds rather than trying to fix the problem. Why would anyone want to help you?
It would be a good thing if all users (Christians and atheists) learned a bit about the truth of the DMCA claim system. This is an issue we can work on to make YouTube better. At the very least, we can set up a system so we don't have to give out our personal details. I've done it for several users.
The first lesson we need to learn is that this is NOT YouTube's system. YouTube does this because this is what the DMC Act says is in their best interest.
I wonder if Geerup also lost that video he made where he complained that atheists were complaining too much about "false DMCAs."
So we're agreed, finally. The current system of DMCA claims allows any anonymous jerk to remove videos and sometimes even get personal information about someone.
I've helped several users -- Christians and atheists -- resolve DMCA claims. Channel restored, no strikes, no giving out your address required.
And I'm atheist #712 doing such things for Christians.
Aside - Why is it that both Geerup and Brock speak as though the "atheist" community has always spoken about the right to free speech but has apparently never yet stood up for a non-atheist channel?
"WE" HAVE multiple times.
In general: *We* don't pick and choose who gets to say what; *We* don't censor comments; *We* don't set up "comment pending"; *We* don't set up "approve video responses".
While I support you in your fight : Have you ever spoken out for a falsely DMCAd atheist, Geerup?
If you have spoken out about a falsely DMCA'd atheist, in support etc, then fair enough.
And obviously you are cheesed off at having been falsely DMCAd yourself - but the way you come across it's like you're the first person ever and it's because they want to silence YOU. How long has this been going on all over YouTube.
The theist community has suffered far far less, I believe, than the atheist, and you know damn well that you'd get support even if you didn't ask for it.
So now you see why all us "evil atheists" made a big deal about VFX? Sucks when it happens to you but its okay if people do it to someone else, just as long as it's not you right?
Geerup is a liar, a coward, a hypocrite and about as intelligent as pond scum. Frankly, he deserves this for the way he has bitched and cried over us making a big deal about this through the course of the last year. He only cares now because it happened to HIM. Still, I can't support him being attacked this way.
I had 21 false DMCAs filed against me. Where was Geerup's support? Why weren't you screeching "Freedom of speech" on my behalf? I think false DMCAs are rubbish but I've had NO help from Geerup's camp. When he speaks out for me and mine, I'll return the favor.
I do not agree with Geerup on many issues but I would never wish him to be censored in this cowardly way. You have my support Geerup for what ever it is worth.
Exactly, and Geerup should live by his! His God who knows everything that ever was, is or will be, who knows how many hairs are on your head allowed this to happen. Its Gods will so Geerup should stop bitchin!
Except for the fact that I'm not a subscriber of Geerup.
I think you will find that I, along with many others, do not like what Geerup has to say. However, this does not stop us from doing the right thing. You on the other hand have come here to kick someone while they are down.
Be the bigger man, stop playing your petty game of one-upmanship.
Listen mate this pathetic excuse for a human being is telling me my parents who were kind loving people are now roasting in Hell for ever for the sin of not being religious. Think about that before telling me I should give this cunt any slack! If I could get my hands on the bastard I'd ring his bloody neck.
Of course I'm being theatrical, the lunatic is to be pitied and in one way his fundamental insane rantings drive ppl away from the Church and for good reason.
Geerup is just out sub whoring by bringing up dpr and Tf00t.
YOU NEED TO STOP THAT!
Make the video and don't be a dick about it don't try and goad people into mirroring your video and such. Remember your the one who said VFX and his dmca's were RIGHT!
The atheist community has mirrored videos of Christians many times but i have YET to see geerup or you sable do the same. Do unto others people its karma and its coming back to bite you in the butt.
Hey Geerup, i loved those videos and listening to you helped me to become a Christian. These people (i assume this is a group attack) have failed to argue with you so now want you shut down to prevent futher embarrasment to themselves.
This is a ridiculous situation. The videos were not offensive. There was no foul language and now copyrighted music or whatever. What a pitiful soul who did this.
I fully support Geerup's free speech. And fuck the asshole who DMCAed him. But I'm getting pretty fed up pretty fast with christians egging on and almost provoking athiest while they didn't give a shit when atheists got screwed over and even welcomed it.
Geerup, i rate what you say as zero but your right to say it as infinite. I for one hope to make a rough and ready video to support both yourself and TheAtheistAntidote (Brock Lawley). Mind you cast your mind back. Atheists have had to put up with this despicable action for ages and did you act? Anyhow, that is not the point. Check out the support for Brock - nigh on 100% Atheist. Geerup we can't afford your channel being taken down. We need you.
At this point we've figured out. You can't really do much at all about this beyond counter claiming. This stuff is happening more and more everyday because youtube doesn't care and nothing we can do will make them care. We don't make them the kinda money that they would ever care what happens to us.
Geerup my advise is do like everyone else who gets falsely flagged or dmcaed make another account.
Where's atheism growing? Current data doesn't support the much touted myth that atheism is growing, rapidly or otherwise. Regardless, that's not the video's point.Not only is this false Shaun filing false DMCA's but he may be charged with identity theft. It's so easy to censor here on YT; the administrators aren't responding to the needs & concerns of lawful users who don't have money to fight these false DMCAs. It's easier to get channels & videos banned than it is to get them reinstated.
Growing isn't exactly the right word for it. The same number of atheist have existed pretty much always. The only difference is sense we aren't kill for not believing anymore more of us speak up.
Just because it appears you're not aware of the scale of the DMCA problem, I thought I should let you know that many in the atheist community have been suffering from false DMCAs for... months... and maybe years?
This is not a new problem, but it appears to only just be hitting the larger Christian channels.
Geerup joins a very long list of YTers who have been false DMCAd, and yet he is not one of the (probably very) few theists who have ever supported DMCAd atheists.
As an atheist, I do agree that you shouldn't be silenced off of YouTube through illegal manuevering of the broken DMCA system. While I don't really know that I have any power to help, you are definitely right about that.
However, please be aware that atheism is growing, and someday theists like you probably won't even be listened to at all, DMCAed or not.
I'm sure I'm not alone when I call this an ironic case. Now the tables have been turned; the hunter becomes the hunted. He cries for help with a forward stroke and with his back stroke he mocks the very people that he's depending on. This is what I believe is called biting the hand that feeds you. Rumor says you're not supposed to do that sorta thing. I was going to lend a personal hand, but your forked tongue has changed my mind. I'm sorry, Geerup. You did it to yourself.
Xeletoph 1 year ago
sablechicken, what did you think of the false claims against the many others who just happen to not believe in your chosen invisible, intangible, curiously absent deity?
I understand the "support the troops" no matter what attitude. It's that, "us vs them" concept which binds the "us's" & those "thems" to their prospective faction.
However, if one supports a tactic (like say for instance, torture) what right do they have to complain when it is used against them?
Geerup is a hypocrite.
Peace
ProfessorPEARL 1 year ago
Just curious Geerup.
How did you feel when VenomFangX was false DMCAing hundreds of people?
All of those channels silenced by VFX. All those users having their freedom of speech taken away from them by a little troll who didn't like what they had to say.
How did that make you feel?
Atriviality 1 year ago
Atriviality: "Geerup, How did you feel when VenomFangX was false DMCAing hundreds of people?"
Geerup: "Proud. Damn Proud! It gave me a rock-hard erection to see that little pipsqueak wield so much trollish power."
LordCustos3 1 year ago
As long as your videos do not contain "dropped docs", entire videos of others used in violation of the Fair Use clause or YouTube TOS, I would be willing to mirror them. The same applies to all controversial videos. Why would you be surprised that Atheists of note can be taken at their word?
RyuDarragh 1 year ago
Wow! It's amazing how different you feel when it;'s happening to someone you disagree with....but if it happens to you? WOW quite a difference!!!
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
ahem! just remind me....did you go to bat for dprjones or thunderf00t? Remind me geerup, because I can't remember.....
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
lol geerup is full of shit.
ALEXHOPPE75 1 year ago
Well, sure Geerup, I'll support you. After all the videos you made condemning the false DMCA's against Thunderf00t, DPRJones etc...
Wait, you didn't make any videos about that did you? You didn't explicitly deplore the actions of the person that DMCA'd other atheists did you?
I will give you support.. of course, the next time someone on the other side of the theological divide is DMCA'd, we well see you return in kind. Wont we ?
AtheistAussie 1 year ago
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berict 1 year ago
Dear Geerup,
At last you speak up against "shaun"...when the real Shawn's already far away.
For once you defend freedom of speech...when it is yours that need advocate.
Finally you trade away your silence...because you got false-DMCAed
In the end you decide to join us to close this YT loophole...when it's your ass that got raped.
bigboss025 1 year ago
Excellent comment but one I'm sure will be ignored
Ender1zero1 1 year ago
You know damn well that atheists support free speech. We've mirrored kassiedill's video, geerup's video, brock's video.
When the hell have you mirrored a video by an atheist? Where was GEERUP when Shawn was filing false DMCAs? Thats right, GEERUP supported it.
You are all silent when atheists get attacked, yet your ilk has asked for help and we've given it. Still, you don't show a single ounce of respect. Not fucking one bit.
Tyrtamus 1 year ago
Ill get kind of miffed, but no ill not fight to the death for someone like you. You stood by when other youtubers were getting votebotted and false dmca'ed. Now we have to fight for you? LOL>
OmgDidYouReally 1 year ago
For Geerup: Why not take all of this information and give it to the FBI for proper criminal investigation. This is why I was so dead-set for dprjones to do so with VFX. That is where the line in the sand should have been drawn. Someone is going to have to be made an example before people stop abusing the DMCA filing.
NewHeathen78 1 year ago
As much as I support freedom of speech, I find it hard to support GEERUP. If one asks for freedom of speech, as he is, surely he should also respect other peoples free speech?
Without doing so makes his argument from freedom particularly void.
woohootrainiscoming 1 year ago
Geerup:
dont you think its very cheeky that after calling atheist horrible people you beg of them to help you?
MannyKunV 1 year ago
i agree u don't deserve to be silenced like this through false dmca's... ...on another note:
u sure as hell don't deserve help from the same athiests which u didn't give 2 shits about when shawn was filing false dmca's against them!
even in this video u can't help slamming athiests with your "persecution" BS! u realize how many athiests u blocked from your channel, and now u try and goad them into helping u?!
go to hell! (-_-)┌∩┐
SEF6519 1 year ago
Dose anyone have copies of the DMCAed videos?
felinoid 1 year ago
i don't really like your content but i agree that this is completely wrong
thisis3d 1 year ago
Mirrored.
I wish the DMCAed videos were available for download somewhere.
jesokingcryst 1 year ago
Indeed the irony here is stunningly poetic. GeerUp even mocked the term "False DMCA" when Shawn was being dealt with. I hope that this little incident opens your eyes GeerUP to just how important these freedoms are because this is how quickly they can be taken away. This is what it's felt like to every person you've blocked from your channel for simply having a differing opinion and challenging your claims. (cont)
BiggestOfDaddies 1 year ago
...As much as I personally would like to see you eat some crow for a while, if these DMCA's are in fact false, then I absolutely support you and openly condemn whoever has filed them. They are no defender of reason or freedoms if false DMCA's are the tactic they wish to use and will ultimately only succeed in damaging the cause.
I hope in the future you yourself will be more open to assisting those who might find themselves in the place you find yourself now.
Peace.
BiggestOfDaddies 1 year ago
GEERUP, you scoff at the people you want help from, are you out of your mind?
You think adding insult will help you?
How about a grain of humbleness?
Still, even if you mock and scorn us who happen to be atheist I will do what I can to help you but ONLY THIS TIME unless you change your demeanor.
You want help but can't ask for it?
I believe bet once this is over, we who helped you will get no gratitude from you.
That's how your type of bitter christians roll it.
Paxmax 1 year ago
The whiff of irony here is too strong. I MUST PULL BACK!
trvius 1 year ago
I disagree with GEERUP on about everything, but Freedom of Speech has to be upheld.
Therefore, mirrored: watch?v=qVl6xgFpCYE
brianblackberry 1 year ago
I think that (if) once Geerup gets his channel back, he remove all the bans he placed on users who didn't agree with his opinion. Like Thunderfoot and DPRJones.
Heck, even I managed to get on his ban list somehow.
It's the least he can do for asking for help.
tarrin4ever 1 year ago
Ironic... hmmm....
hochdaddy 1 year ago
When Thunderf00t and Dprjones were falsely DMCA'ed by VenomfangX, How come you did not defend them and call Shawn out on his wrong doings? Instead, you tried to make Shawn a youtube martyr for your own personal gain. Now that the tables have turned you are asking the same people you condemned for protecting their rights to now protect yours. How ironic. By the way, since when were you a champion of freedom of speech? You had no problem blocking out their opinions. Wheres their freedom of speech?
davowthegreat 1 year ago
Well, as always the "atheist parasites" DO support anyone whos been falsely flagged.
GEERUP, seriously, where have YOU been?
How come you appear to be unaware of the support that is given to ALL YouTube members who have asked for help after getting falsely flagged?
Moroever, why do you think this has ANYTHING to do with your message or videos? Why MUST this issue be a matter of "the atheists parasites vs the righteous Christians"?
This was ONE individual behind this, do you understand?
ChickenHawk110 1 year ago
This is probably the first thing that has came out of Geerup's mouth that I agree with.
The DMCA procedure is clearly broken and this has to stop.
FEChariot 1 year ago
Geerup I don't agree with anything you say, But if I can help in any way to allow you to say it, you let me know. I'm a nobody from nowhere and I don't know what I can do to help, but free speech is free speech. And censorship should not stood for. We stand with you in this.
Marrithegreat 1 year ago
You are not required to give your real name if you get a lawyer on board to represent you. Odds are high you can find one pro bono.
I do not support this form of censorship.
IGExpandingPanda 1 year ago
well it sucks when it false DMCA in turned against you eh? Well False DMCA is wrong no matter against who.....well will help you for the purpose of free speech but hope you see how it suck now and help your opposition when they get false flagged.
whydid666 1 year ago
@4:57 - correct, it's fair use. Nobody should be filing a false DMCA.
I'm an atheist, but I have mirrored this video
Geerup and other Christians, add your voice to the chorus of people complaining to YouTube about the broken censorship system
See the AndromedasWake video & follow the links in the sidebar. There's an online petition with 7,500+ signatures and the issues board at Google has 4,500+ stars. Add your voices to this cause. This isn't about theists vs. atheists
watch?v=BkwwX1cRRRU
AlanCFA 1 year ago
And they used Shaun (the King of false DMCA's) name. LOL, ow the poetic justice.
I would never support false flagging... but damn the poetic justice to Geerup for supporting VFX while doing his own false DMCA rampage is ow so funny.
NYCAustinNYC 1 year ago
This business about atheists defending the right of free speech until the death is a bunch of bologna. Satan and his minions are on the prowl and their goal is to silence the Word of God by any means necessary. Devils cannot tolerate Truth.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
Why is it then, the creationists who censor the comments and ratings for their videos?
Why is it the creationists who have falsely DMCA'd hundreds of videos and tried getting accounts banned?
Why is the atheists who are actually the people who defend free speech?
BlackRaptor31 1 year ago
At times I censor comments on my channel because you atheists are a bunch of blasphemous and profane heathen.
You guys are also notorious on YT for abusing the ratings feature.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34
careful of what u say about us heathen atheists, u might ask one for help one day just like geerup's doing now =P
its a miracle that there are ahtiests out there who will help ppl like u no matter how many times u censor them and pelt them with your hateful shit >=/
SEF6519 1 year ago
Blasphemy is a victimless crime.
It also tends to only be the creationists with the votebot attacks.
Atheists dont need to hide facts, because the facts are always on our side.
Theists have tried to cover up the truth, hence why blasphemy was once a crime. But with the advancement of free speech, the truth can be heard, hence why atheism is growing, and christianity i shrinking.
Good luck with your blind ignorant faith. I'll just stick to intelligence thanks.
BlackRaptor31 1 year ago
'Blasphemy is a victimless crime'
Not when coming from the bible as your axiom. It is the unpardonable sin according to some believers, which makes it not only not 'victimless', but the most heinous of crimes against someone.
'It tends to only be the creationists with the votebot attacks.'
That is as hard for even a creationist to read as it is for a pre-reprobate mind such as yourself to read Jesus must save you from your sin to keep you out of hell
'I'll stick to intelligence thanks'
Liar
AnotherBrotherMark 1 year ago
Funny, because we atheists are actually springing into action to indeed defend the right of free speech. Check dprjones' channel, he's just posted a video in support of geerup, and I myself am right now in the process of mirroring this video here.
KriimIanga 1 year ago
Only cowards file False DMCA's.
Geerup, we disagree on everything but I want you to know that I stand with you and your right to free speech!
CranesNotSkyHooks 1 year ago
Wow... how pathetic. How many people have been here noting the irony of this?
A hate speech and censorship monger now crying about the same shit we have been putting up with for years.
Pathetic. While I will stand up for your rights to open your mouth and vomit whatever garbage you want, I have to sit back and laugh at you first.
False DMCA's suck, and only cowards use them to censor others. Again, the irony is just so damn amusing.
If you dont like censorship, Geerup, why practice it?
ThatOneQuestion 1 year ago
Geerup, your complaints are perfectly valid, and would have been very welcome during the earlier false DMCA storms when Shawn (among others) struck at the YouTube atheists (and dropped DPRJones' docs).
Can we expect your voice in tackling these false-flagging cowards in the future?
I'm a very minor presence on YouTube, but I've been doing what I can in the real world, getting people to petition YouTube to reform its DMCA practices (such as through this practice: watch?v=BkwwX1cRRRU).
TempestStormwind 1 year ago
I don't agree with allot of what greeup says but I support his right to say it
TheUnmaskedMagician 1 year ago
@Geerup & Sablechicken
Thankyou for accepting my video response.
paulchartley 1 year ago
Geerup,
If i could/can i will defend your right to freedom of speech with out qualm or question, even despite your own tendacy to not uphold it yourself and that, in my opinion, you use it to talk utter nonsense.
Maybe the general response from the amoral atheists will help you reconsider your position on them
mriswithmoo 1 year ago
I would have more sympathy for Geerup if he didn't block and censor people, sink or swim G-up
clownporn1 1 year ago
this is not a war between christians and atheists. this is between freedom of speech and trolls. both christians and atheists have been false flagged and false dmca'd
SheepRCool17 1 year ago
Did sablechicken pass on my comments to you, Geerup? Did you get my PM?
If there is anything I can do to help fight false DMCAs filed against you, let me know.
rozeboosje 1 year ago
OH yes.. my channel has been closed down twice so far. 1 Fasle DMCA, 23 false flags, 8 votebot attacks so far.
I will make a video about this today.
Vogter2100 1 year ago
Good luck fighting this DMCA from a Canadian Purist Atheist. I've already petitioned youtube to change their suspension policies. You don't deserve any suspension although maybe you can empathize with some of the other suspended channels now.
TheLummer66 1 year ago
Geerup, of course dpr would help you and I'd suspect most atheists would voice an opinion of support, myself included. Abuse of the DMCA is wrong and I've never noticed you breaking any copryright laws so I support your right to say what you want.
mrowepat 1 year ago
Make the real VenomfangX partner of your channel and you guys can legally give his personal information in the counter notice. That information is already leaked, and that information isn't what the troll wants. He probably has that information already. Or make someone else partner of your channel that is willing to give his/her personal information to the troll.
Censeo 1 year ago
Censorship is not a valid form of argument.
Send me a PM Geerup.
DJ
djarm67 1 year ago
Listen to you, ... god you are pathetic!
M0THERKN0WSBEST 1 year ago
Yes yes we will defend your freedom of speech.
Despite having no support from you in these matters in the past, despite all the disagreements and despite our general dislike of your person (and Brock's), we will support you.
You might want to rethink your generalizations of atheist morals.
tarrin4ever 1 year ago
Although I disagree wholeheartedly with your religious views and your stated beliefs in your videos, your right to say what you want to say should not be infringed.
I hope your struggles against DMCA abuse turns out in your favor. Good luck.
leafybean 1 year ago
That happens to most people who discuss anything controversial, someone always false flags the videos.
tgz1000 1 year ago
Geerup, even though you're a major asshole, I'll still support your right to express your opinion by featuring this on my channel because I dislike DMCA abuse far more than I dislike you.
stefzula 1 year ago
@stefzula
Thanks for supporting free speech. DMCA abuse is very bad.
Spread the message!
TruthfulChristian 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"Thanks for supporting free speech. DMCA abuse is very bad."
We're all going to hold you to that statement.
So the next time a non-Christian gets unjust DMCA harassment, we all expect you at our side.
Will you be there?
LordCustos3 1 year ago
And the bastards have marked your comment as spam. I think we have our answer.
JustAThrowAwayName 1 year ago
Good for you for deciding to start a new channel and not playing games with imbeciles who ruin the public forum here on youtube.
I laughed so hard when I saw that "Darwin's Theory Of Evolution Is Dead" had been flagged. You're just sitting in your car talking to a camera. Apparetly this S. Karon claims copyright on the outside public world?
It's a sad attempt of kicking a dead horse. The VFX thing is over, troll. I hear CopperCab is the new thing. Move on and grow up.
acdobens 1 year ago
You're not alone, Geerup. TheAtheistAntidote is also being flagged, and other Christian channels.
You could open a new channel like TheAtheistAntidote did, or open a Twitter account.
We're all one body in Christ, and God is on our side.
AmericanJohnLodge 1 year ago
They aren't alone still atheist have been getting flagged and dmcaed for at least a year now.
darkdragonsoul99 1 year ago
@darkdragonsoul99
No they're not. And if they are you haven't linked us to any reliable sources. What is your definition of "atheists"? Do you mean just 2-3 people or do you mean thousands?
And what about the Christians? Maybe your bias choices make you visit more atheist channels than Christian channels? Maybe you don't realise that this isn't just happening in atheist/christian channels?
maybe it's happening to vloggers and item reviewers. stop being bias.
TruthfulChristian 1 year ago
And americanjognlodge wasn't being bias? I admit to my bias there is nothing I can do to not be at least little bias. This is far from a new thing happening here the false flagging has been going on sense I got on youtube. The only thing that has changed is the fact it's happening to people someone cares about now.Goes to proves most people don't care unless it effects them personally.
darkdragonsoul99 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"No they're not."
Where have you been? Many well-known atheist channels (I define "atheist" as being those that say they are atheist and are involved in the religious debate) have all been hit usually multiple times, not only with false DMCAs but with false-flagging and vote-botting. To name but a few: Thunderf00t, PatCondell, Desertphile, DonExodus2, dprJones, Coughlan666, Vogter2100, TXHalabi, EdibleNapalm2, Saturninefilms, FactVSReligion, stefzula, AbdultheImpailler, and Philhellenes.
VolatileReaction 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Falsely marked as spam
VolatileReaction (23 hours ago)
"No they're not."
Where have you been? Many well-known atheist channels have all been hit...multiple times with false DMCAs, false-flagging and vote-botting.
To name but a few: Thunderf00t, PatCondell, Desertphile, DonExodus2, dprJones, Coughlan666, Vogter2100, TXHalabi, EdibleNapalm2, Saturninefilms, FactVSReligion, stefzula, AbdultheImpailler, and Philhellenes.
LordCustos3 1 year ago
you will find you will make sure you post your videos on every site all over the world and rise above it I like you tube because of the people on it this is the only advantage youtube has over some of the other sites when they lose that they will lose
and just be a wast of time advertising channel full of plastic people saying plastic trhgings There is a balance at the moment. but you point out a big problem
allcingeye 1 year ago
Geerup, just get a PO Box or private mailbox and use your youtube alias. Once you oppose the DMCA it will be removed (unless the file a lawsuit).
random331 1 year ago
Y'all have my support.
This is the very reason why I became a member of censortube.ed. The system needs to be changed.
phenixwryter 1 year ago
Geerup... I usually disagree with everything you say... but being DMCA'd falsely is a crime.... and completely horrible. You've got my support.... being silenced in this way is wrong.
brianthemayan 1 year ago
even if we don't agree with what's being said everyone has a right to say it. this dmca bs has gotten out of line.
dolphin8402 1 year ago
I do not agree with your religious views and think you have said some dispicable and horrible things on youtube, but i support your right to say it.
I therefore support you 100%.
12tod 1 year ago
Mirrored. This BS has got to stop.
starfedrogue 1 year ago
Now that we see what kind of gratitude we get for trying to help.....do you feel a little bit cheated?
LordCustos3 1 year ago
Nope. How Sablechicken chooses to conduct herself has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not I think false DMCAs need to be challenged.
They are separate issues.
starfedrogue 1 year ago
Hypothetical Scenario....
If Geerup and Inmendham false DMCA'd each other, would you mirror them both or would you just sit back and let them destroy each other?
Call me callous, but I'd help neither, and just pop some popcorn and watch the fireworks.
LordCustos3 1 year ago
If we knew that they had false DMCA'd each other then I don't see how we could support either.
starfedrogue 1 year ago
Despite everything, I will support Geerup in this. Even though he never lifted a finger to help me when I received 21 false DMCAs recently. I may not agree with what he says but violating someone's free speech is rotten and I disagree with it.
christheatheist2 1 year ago
If you can get in contact with VFX, then you can ask him to write an email to YouTube's legal department to inform them that the DMCAs were not filed by him.
antybu86 1 year ago
Good idea. They should still have his email address on file for validation purposes.
starfedrogue 1 year ago
I find such dishonesty reprehensible of course. But I'm curious about one thing:
Was Geerup this concerned about supporting free speech back when his friend VFX was issuing false DMCA's against atheist channels?
papafox 1 year ago
good point.
dolphin8402 1 year ago
Youtube should not allow DMCA claims without a court order. In other words unless someone goes to court and the judge agrees it should be IMPOSSIBLE to do this. This would end all the false claims right away and people would think twice before going to court. Said to hear this geerup .. I hope you will stay on youtube and let us all know your new channel if you can't keep the old one !
krisv001 1 year ago
the whole DMCA and flagging system is completely broken on YouTube - They will not listen to the users we do not generate income for them. However letting their advertisers know that we will not as a community purchase their products untill THEY bring pressure to bear on YT may well be an answer.
No one should be false DMCA'd not Atheist nor Christian
pastorgeorgec 1 year ago
Here's the thing, you pretty much said you aren't going to take your legal recourse, and you are challenging your opponents to help you. You aren't asking for help from your proponents nor are you asking it from your opponents...Ya didn't lift a finger to help others and are probably in some way responsible for false DMCA's but now it happens to you and you are trying to call others out as frauds rather than trying to fix the problem. Why would anyone want to help you?
Durakken 1 year ago
I hate geerup with every fiber of my being and his pathetic cowardly self blocked me, but I can't support him being attacked with the DMCA system.
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 year ago
It would be a good thing if all users (Christians and atheists) learned a bit about the truth of the DMCA claim system. This is an issue we can work on to make YouTube better. At the very least, we can set up a system so we don't have to give out our personal details. I've done it for several users.
The first lesson we need to learn is that this is NOT YouTube's system. YouTube does this because this is what the DMC Act says is in their best interest.
TheHogTieChamp 1 year ago
Geerup, I know you things got heated on my abortion video we discussed but I will have this video mirror'd by the weekend.
CountHektor 1 year ago
I wonder if Geerup also lost that video he made where he complained that atheists were complaining too much about "false DMCAs."
So we're agreed, finally. The current system of DMCA claims allows any anonymous jerk to remove videos and sometimes even get personal information about someone.
I've helped several users -- Christians and atheists -- resolve DMCA claims. Channel restored, no strikes, no giving out your address required.
And I'm atheist #712 doing such things for Christians.
TheHogTieChamp 1 year ago
Aside - Why is it that both Geerup and Brock speak as though the "atheist" community has always spoken about the right to free speech but has apparently never yet stood up for a non-atheist channel?
"WE" HAVE multiple times.
In general: *We* don't pick and choose who gets to say what; *We* don't censor comments; *We* don't set up "comment pending"; *We* don't set up "approve video responses".
While I support you in your fight : Have you ever spoken out for a falsely DMCAd atheist, Geerup?
Widgetas 1 year ago
If you have spoken out about a falsely DMCA'd atheist, in support etc, then fair enough.
And obviously you are cheesed off at having been falsely DMCAd yourself - but the way you come across it's like you're the first person ever and it's because they want to silence YOU. How long has this been going on all over YouTube.
The theist community has suffered far far less, I believe, than the atheist, and you know damn well that you'd get support even if you didn't ask for it.
Widgetas 1 year ago
This is very annoying, and the idiot DMCA law should be abandoned.
Desertphile 1 year ago
@Desertphile It needs to be changed and I agree.
Jimb0can 1 year ago
I don't think it needs to be abandoned, just properly enforced.
VolatileReaction 1 year ago
god doesn't want you to be here.
fuck you and your god
Hail SATAN
VirginAthena2 1 year ago
I'll be making a video defending you later, GEERUP, even if you don't deserve it whatsoever.
Seeing as how you supported false DMCA's in the past and have never ONCE supported ANY atheists who have had THEIR freedom of speech removed.
Despite all of that, I will still support you, GEERUP. What does that say about my morality and ethics compared to yours?
Rithrandil 1 year ago
(I wasn't sure if he had or he hadn't - but even if he hadn't that's not the point. Not that I expect he'll ever acknowledge that fact)
Widgetas 1 year ago
@Rithrandil
*Applause*
papafox 1 year ago
Thank you, sir. You rule, btw.
Rithrandil 1 year ago
I am also pretty sure thunderf00t and dpr will support you on this .
mrsalmon1984 1 year ago
So now you see why all us "evil atheists" made a big deal about VFX? Sucks when it happens to you but its okay if people do it to someone else, just as long as it's not you right?
mrsalmon1984 1 year ago
@mrsalmon1984
Geerup is a liar, a coward, a hypocrite and about as intelligent as pond scum. Frankly, he deserves this for the way he has bitched and cried over us making a big deal about this through the course of the last year. He only cares now because it happened to HIM. Still, I can't support him being attacked this way.
bamboo4tameshigiri 1 year ago
Every thing is backwards. The accuser should give their name . We are suppost to have the right to know our accuser not the other way around.
You tube is working for the enemy of free speach when they do this.
hellavadeal 1 year ago
I had 21 false DMCAs filed against me. Where was Geerup's support? Why weren't you screeching "Freedom of speech" on my behalf? I think false DMCAs are rubbish but I've had NO help from Geerup's camp. When he speaks out for me and mine, I'll return the favor.
christheatheist2 1 year ago
Pray .................or does it not work on the tube
only when you are unwell
but wish you well and about the Time I would agree,How can a little person help
swinewarrior 1 year ago
You're right Geerup. You don't have to defend your self.
Favorited and featured on my channel.
You'll get support.
Danmill23 1 year ago
Wow, Geerup you must feel like a woman accused of witchcraft by the Roman Catholic Church. Sucks don't it, lol!
BiodegradeableMan 1 year ago
I do not agree with Geerup on many issues but I would never wish him to be censored in this cowardly way. You have my support Geerup for what ever it is worth.
Good luck.
spenceII 1 year ago
Bravo, it ain't like the Church ever censored or persecuted anyone.
BiodegradeableMan 1 year ago
Yes. However, I live by my principles not those of a corrupt church.
spenceII 1 year ago
Exactly, and Geerup should live by his! His God who knows everything that ever was, is or will be, who knows how many hairs are on your head allowed this to happen. Its Gods will so Geerup should stop bitchin!
BiodegradeableMan 1 year ago
It could be percieved as a test; challenges often are by those of faith. I do not see why Geerup's faith should stop him from fighting censorship.
spenceII 1 year ago
Hee hee, God looked down on the Earth at all the misery , death and destruction and said 'I know what, I'll test Geerup with false flagging.'
Grow a brain and accept the dark ages have gone (thankfully).
BiodegradeableMan 1 year ago
Get some principles. Stop being such a twat.
spenceII 1 year ago
@spenceII
Hee hee a subscriber of Geerup telling me to get some principles! Priceless, just priceless.....
BiodegradeableMan 1 year ago
Except for the fact that I'm not a subscriber of Geerup.
I think you will find that I, along with many others, do not like what Geerup has to say. However, this does not stop us from doing the right thing. You on the other hand have come here to kick someone while they are down.
Be the bigger man, stop playing your petty game of one-upmanship.
spenceII 1 year ago
The horror of my one-upmanship!
Listen mate this pathetic excuse for a human being is telling me my parents who were kind loving people are now roasting in Hell for ever for the sin of not being religious. Think about that before telling me I should give this cunt any slack! If I could get my hands on the bastard I'd ring his bloody neck.
BiodegradeableMan 1 year ago
Of course I'm being theatrical, the lunatic is to be pitied and in one way his fundamental insane rantings drive ppl away from the Church and for good reason.
BiodegradeableMan 1 year ago
As much as i disagree with most of what GEERUP says, I genuinely dont believe he is the type of guy who would do this to others.
The serious users of this site really must get together regardless of what their religious views are and stop this garbage from happening.
Q3ToPBuZz 1 year ago
STOP THIS BS!
Geerup is just out sub whoring by bringing up dpr and Tf00t.
YOU NEED TO STOP THAT!
Make the video and don't be a dick about it don't try and goad people into mirroring your video and such. Remember your the one who said VFX and his dmca's were RIGHT!
The atheist community has mirrored videos of Christians many times but i have YET to see geerup or you sable do the same. Do unto others people its karma and its coming back to bite you in the butt.
chupamiubre 1 year ago
Hey Geerup, i loved those videos and listening to you helped me to become a Christian. These people (i assume this is a group attack) have failed to argue with you so now want you shut down to prevent futher embarrasment to themselves.
This is a ridiculous situation. The videos were not offensive. There was no foul language and now copyrighted music or whatever. What a pitiful soul who did this.
obts10 1 year ago
The DMCA Abuse Channel wasn't set up for nothing.
zegeck 1 year ago
I fully support Geerup's free speech. And fuck the asshole who DMCAed him. But I'm getting pretty fed up pretty fast with christians egging on and almost provoking athiest while they didn't give a shit when atheists got screwed over and even welcomed it.
SmoothInstigator 1 year ago
Geerup, i rate what you say as zero but your right to say it as infinite. I for one hope to make a rough and ready video to support both yourself and TheAtheistAntidote (Brock Lawley). Mind you cast your mind back. Atheists have had to put up with this despicable action for ages and did you act? Anyhow, that is not the point. Check out the support for Brock - nigh on 100% Atheist. Geerup we can't afford your channel being taken down. We need you.
pilgrimpater 1 year ago
Hey, good luck against those DMCAs.
GuineaPigDan 1 year ago
At this point we've figured out. You can't really do much at all about this beyond counter claiming. This stuff is happening more and more everyday because youtube doesn't care and nothing we can do will make them care. We don't make them the kinda money that they would ever care what happens to us.
Geerup my advise is do like everyone else who gets falsely flagged or dmcaed make another account.
darkdragonsoul99 1 year ago
Jeff, Gorilla199, Brock, now Geerup...
These animals need to be put down!
2222554 1 year ago
im an atheist but i dont want you off youtube okay? this is messed up and i agree it needs to end
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
That is messed up...How long ago did this happen to him?
I will try and find time to do a video on this before I leave for surgery.
LittleTruckingBozo 1 year ago
Where's atheism growing? Current data doesn't support the much touted myth that atheism is growing, rapidly or otherwise. Regardless, that's not the video's point.Not only is this false Shaun filing false DMCA's but he may be charged with identity theft. It's so easy to censor here on YT; the administrators aren't responding to the needs & concerns of lawful users who don't have money to fight these false DMCAs. It's easier to get channels & videos banned than it is to get them reinstated.
ChristianMission 1 year ago
Growing isn't exactly the right word for it. The same number of atheist have existed pretty much always. The only difference is sense we aren't kill for not believing anymore more of us speak up.
darkdragonsoul99 1 year ago
wow. That is just terrible. It's pretty low to have to stoop to that level seriously.
SisterSunnshine 1 year ago
Just because it appears you're not aware of the scale of the DMCA problem, I thought I should let you know that many in the atheist community have been suffering from false DMCAs for... months... and maybe years?
This is not a new problem, but it appears to only just be hitting the larger Christian channels.
Geerup joins a very long list of YTers who have been false DMCAd, and yet he is not one of the (probably very) few theists who have ever supported DMCAd atheists.
Double standards?
Widgetas 1 year ago
As an atheist, I do agree that you shouldn't be silenced off of YouTube through illegal manuevering of the broken DMCA system. While I don't really know that I have any power to help, you are definitely right about that.
However, please be aware that atheism is growing, and someday theists like you probably won't even be listened to at all, DMCAed or not.
adjohnson916 1 year ago
fair point
jeevs182 1 year ago