I don't see how you could be the one racing dirty. The grey Jetta's multiple attempts to push you into the grass makes him the dirty racer.
I applaud you for not spinning him out of control. You had a couple of good shots to do it but didn't. If it was me however, I would have done it. It's a good way to teach someone some manners.
You were the white and he was the grey, am I right? Before you answer, my opinion is that the white was just racing, the grey was being a frustrated kid
That first under-over exchange of positions was beautiful. The crash however, was your fault. You tried to go around the corner more quickly but going outside the track boundary and widening your arc.
From my point of view (i.e. the view of somebody who hasn't raced on this circuit) you went outside the track boundaries so therefore his initial passing move was valid and you should have given way regardless of whether or not it is considered the normal racing line (his line was within the track boundaries). It was a normal racing incident as you simply didn't see/expect it. His actions after this incident were dirty though, pushing someone off the track like that is a dick move.
@seismica Following a second look at the incident, you are correct, he turned in far too late and was aiming for you. Could just be a mistake, but considering his actions afterwards, I doubt it.
I've never raced at sebring so my opinion may be flawed but it did look to me that you left the door wide open, (even if it is the normal line you should of been aware that you were "asking' for someone close behind to put one up the inside) Perhaps you could of left him more room to avoid it but on the other hand it should be remembered that is the responsibility of the overtaker not to make contact. What he did on the straight was well out of line though, just petty, childish behaviour.
I would say he thought that the first contact was your fault and was so mad he didn't think straight and said to himself it could have been a racing crash so he wanted to get revenge even though it was not your fault. I had that happen to me once and I knew it was a racing inccident so I didn't do anything then he rammed me so I turned him And went fliping in the air. I was mad so it hurt me to becuase I was not driving straight so he should have kept calm or he is going to make a lot of enemys
looks like you tryed to keep it clean,,, but i did not see the full race u could have been blocking for a few laps so in that sence you somtimes have to be aggressive to pass!!! did you finish the race? and yes he was a little dirty that is just good racing it slowed him down he could have kept it clean after the pass but he did not have a clean head and wanted to take u out he is a jack ass next time u know "just dont give a inch if he wants the place make him work for it after all it is arace
you're not a dirty driver. you ran wide didn't check you're mirrors and yourself and the grey jetta made contact. i would say the grey jetta was the dirty driver. not you.
@jackobcooper usually when i'm doing a turn into the limit coming from another turn where the trajectory is that (check the 3rd do the same trajectory as me) i dont watch much mirror..basically becouse there was all the straight after and he could have used sleepstream to pass me easily and avoid the 3rd to pass both. This is what my brain says ;-)
@MaxD79 All I can say is that trying to overtake in this turn is totally irrealistic, he just wanted to pass in force. Plus we clearly see he's trying push him out on the grass at 1:15 min. For me you were having a fair driving and the black car is just a bad looser.
Simple as the guy in the black car lacked situational awareness to be that close to cars racing, knowing where a car is and holding his line through corners would have avoided this but without race awareness he failed which caused you both to rub paint
Not dirty but you left the door open on the corner and he took the chance. 50/50 fault, you should have been more obsverent and (according to the iRacing guide) the overtaking driving has the responsibility to an ensure the overtaking is safe.
If you have to post a video and ask a bunch of strangers if you drive dirty, you probably already know the answer and you're just trying to justify your bad driving. Driving dirty on purpose and just being a bad racer are different things. You might just be the latter. Discretion is the better part of valor. Use discretion.
I would say it might have been the courteous thing to do on Lap 3 to give him space which, had you not gone too far to the right and tapped him, he would have had, but he did have the inside line, though after he did try pushing off the track...
According to the iracing driving school the driver making the pass is responsible for making sure that no contact occurs, but it also says that you you are side by side you have to make sure you both give each other enough room. I would say that it was a normal racing incident. Do you use the spotter? Also, name calling is absolutely against the iracing sporting code and fully warrants reporting.
honestly you let him pass if you do and you keep up and he does that crap you should pit him and put him out theres no need to keep bashing you off the track like that and theres no need for him to drive on the track if he is going to do that kind of crap.
u should have pulled a kyle busch man - "Just f*cking drive your sh*t you little b*tch" - and left him with that like yah sure a hole was there but as a driver u r suppose to think a little further ahead than the very corner u r approaching. Pretty sure is anyone else saw u run that wide line they would have just ran a normal line and set u up for the straightaway instead of damaging their car hitting into u. AND if it was just a rookie error by u braking at that corner in the jetta then...
You should have given him more space in lap3. Maybe it was normal raceline you drove but he was just in the way. Afterwards on the straight I can't say if it was anybody's fault because by touching his rear with your front you made him turn to the left and maybe that appeared to you as if he wanted to push you out of the track. But maybe he did this on purpose, I don't know. The remaining "incidents" are just regular close and entertaining racing.. Btw how can I record the voice-chat in Iracing?
@m2themax hi m8 the problem is not the contact itslef really but the fact i was accused to drive dirty and so mandy bad words..and after that on the straight i was not pushing him back..it was just deliberately a bad moves (he sayd he had brokne wheel after that..) it was an official race remember where there was a prize (a jetta real champ) and i was not taking part cause i am not american..so basically he was first..and doing that he let Wyatt (the blu car) go and win.
never have i seen that reffered to as "dirty, that is touring car racing, althougl with 11 laps to go you should have checked your mirrors and tucked in behind, but very defensive driving
straight away stuff was dirty on the other guys part... on lap 3 you should have looked to see if there was someone1 was going to make a pass and thus give him room and at the same time he should have been looking to see if you noticed and he could have braked real hard either way contact could have been avoided but it wasnt intentional so id call not dirty just misjudgement after that you should have learned and realised he was gonna make a pass that time he had the right and u should give room
@MrTNL3 i raced so many at Sebring and trust me thats not the right point to pass(if you do not do mistakes obviously) for some reason. First it was on lap 2 and not the last lap. Second i was not racing for that championship cause i couldnt win the final prize (not amercian so he was first efectivelly). Third doing a pass there means exit slow for all the straight respect a normal race line and it means you would have been easily passed by the "3rd" that was in fight for the champ (Wyatt)
Not dirty. Dude was mad that you made him look slow and found a spot on the track where he could poke his nose in and cause contact. These babies are common online.
You turned in on him, if there is a space it's a good time to pass, he took advantage and probably wouldn't of made it work well but you didn't give room.
He saw a huge opening and rightfully took it, therefor blocking your ability to complete your transfer to the apex, which is a classic technique. If you saw him, you wouldn't have hit him. Now, if he was an asshole about it, then he needs to leave the service, because cussing at people is against the rules, and it's childish to insult someone because of an accident. If he wants to cuss at people and get away with it, then LFS and rFactor are free. He can go there and be a dick all he wants.
Personally - I think this is proper racing. Real race drivers are competitive. Obviously not competitive up to the point where you're deliberately ramming each other off the track though.
The first clip, to me - demonstrated some pretty nice driving. You lost the advantage but turned it around nicely and regained the position.
The grey car pushing you onto the grass on the straight though is pretty uncalled for. I agree with you there.
Wrong place to over take, black car didn't have enough room. That was a very aggressive move. Really wasn't your fault . There is no way you can brake there, also he wouldn't have made the turn if you were not there.
actually your clean but you did hit him when you were going back on the track you did hit him and your not suppose to do that but you might have not seen him which happens a lot other wise no your driving is not dirty
Nope Max you don't race dirty the black car came down on you in the end. You clearly had the line. He probably got mad coz you put that Dale Earnhart move when he passed you and you passed him back.
not your fault it happens next time just give him a feign coming into a turn fake outside then dive in or inside and drive to the outside then when he comes up give him a shot in the ass and a one finger salute
lap 3 - Dirty no, i would say you were more at fault than him though, it looks better from the over head shot. going into that corner he was more than enough along side you to have ago its just a shame that you turned when you did but you had no choice.
Lap 11 - you might have been quicker but he the corner a dab on the breaks would avoided that.
one other thing you always get squeezed like that in the jettas, its classic saloon racing just something you will have to get used to
I don't think you are dirty, per se. However, you did go off the track, past the white line, to make that turn. Once off track, its your responsibility to get back on track without hitting anyone. It would be like using pit-out to make a pass. However, the black car did seem to try to push you off course, which was dirty. Twice no less. These are common in racing. Take it with a grain of salt and move on. Just don't go off track again :)
he was the dirty driver...on lap 3 you took a normal line, but judging by your cockpit view I don't think you left much room to the inside, you looked like you would have approached the bumper..
However the grey car had a terrible line, he would have messed that turn up and lost a good 1 sec on his lap time because of it...that it the only reason the contact seemed so harsh...if he had a normal line at worst it would have been a little door rubbing and a drag race down the straight.
I dont think that was witn a bad intention, but you made that turn like nobody was there... you should give him some room... but I dont think that was a dirty move... On simulators the field of view is complicated, I see that as a normal incident, not big deal...
@asdfgosu i think you never raced at Sebring. My line was normal race line, check the 3rd car and see wich line is doing and it's not an har dbraking with jetta and if you brake there you ARE OUT. Watch other things that he does to me then, dont stop on the first contact.
WOW, That was fun to watch. Thats good type of racing when you are bouncing of each other but not actually wrecking. If this were a real race, you guys would of put on a show for the fans! Nice Video. BTW yes you were "dirty" but so was he and thats what made it fun to watch.
What I like about Iracing (the short time I subscribed) is the lack of idiots. I've done some stupid stuff but hey thats how you learn, but you learn fast and iracing forces a little patience. If he made a protest, that was immature. You didn't do anything wrong. Anyways I'm thinking about subscribing again. How quick can I buy the jetta? That looks awesome!
man the guy in the black car drove like an idiot the whole way. thats how youre supposed to drive smooth not choppy hes too brake happy and obviously has no idea how to road race. even the guy in the blue car followd your line so why did he dive bomb it
Ok explain me how i turned into him if i was yet into the turn. This is curious. Watch his brakes and watch when i brake or 3rd brakes..
I can do whenever i want that sort of passing..it's easy i just dont brake and use the car ahed or yet in trajectory to stop my speed. He should have used the inside kurb if he wanted to pass there..but it wa simpossible too fast there.
And btw, did u ever race on that track? You know how is that turn?
@MaxD79 Well you asked for opinions, you got 'em. I agree on others, lap 3 you turned in on him. Your fault whether he was able to keep it together or not.
Other then that i didnt see you do anything wrong. Black car did push you off a few times though, which is more "dirty" then your move on lap 3.
turned in on him? oh come on. look at the line of the grey car. he was out way too wide. max even left him some space inside. the grey car hit him and then even tried to push him of twice.
Can't see what you did wrong Max, if anything the black car has divebombed you. He wasn't alongside when he braked and probably wouldn't have made the turn without hitting you. Also looks like he tries to drive you off track twice.
Of course things often look different on the other guys replays, so I wouldn't want to condemn the other driver without seeing his replay, but you did nothing wrong. I wouldn't expect someone to try a pass at Le Mans without getting alongside earlier.
This guy andre gomes is dangerous, he is aggressive. One time he made one of this moves on me and i get him out of the race on purpose. And like every cry baby he made a protest on me.
lap 1 you had the corner, you gave him room but got back around him anyway
For the incidents on lap 3 and 11, I think that corner is hard to judge b/c everyone sweeps wide left OFF the track. lap 3 I don't think he ever had position. lap 11, one could argue he did at the conventional turn in point on the track (not going left of the curbing).
regardless the bumping on the straight is ridiculous, no matter the circumstance.
hi ra64. I want to clear out that for me was not a problem all of this. I enjoyed the race. But i was accused to drive dirty,arrogant from that guy, and he sayed bad words..that's the worst thing.
To be honest man, that move on Lap 3 looked legit. He got himself into position and from the chopper camera it looked like you just turned into him. From your cockpit view, I'd bet you had absolutely no idea he'd try and pass in such a stupid place. When he was trying to push you off thats what he shouldn't have done. He was clearly leaving you no room to pass. Thats a no-no. He did that on purpose. Still, dont see why he was being so aggresive. Send a protest. You'll win.
Peter a part all he is out of trajectory. you know if i wasnt there he woudlt have done the turn..look the 3rd is doing my trajectory in that turn and i still stayide a bit large in enter, usually i go into the inside kurbs a lot. I couldnt do nothing there a part going on grass to avoid him. But was not a problem at all.
I think the pass he made on you that started this whole thing was a good aggressive pass, but there is absolutely no fault on your part for not expecting it and making contact. Everything else he did after is cry baby crap, and you should protest him.
That was Andre Gomes driving that gray car. He is really aggressive, too much so. I have raced with you before, and I found that you were a very clean racer. I am not sure why he is saying that. I am not sure what your protest will accomplish. I just recently did the same thing when I was taken out from the lead on the last lap to finish 4th. iRacing did not do anything about it because they "can't." Good luck though.
I don't see how you could be the one racing dirty. The grey Jetta's multiple attempts to push you into the grass makes him the dirty racer.
I applaud you for not spinning him out of control. You had a couple of good shots to do it but didn't. If it was me however, I would have done it. It's a good way to teach someone some manners.
knightrid463 3 weeks ago
You were the white and he was the grey, am I right? Before you answer, my opinion is that the white was just racing, the grey was being a frustrated kid
Mawerik024 1 month ago
@Mawerik024 yeah i was the white.
MaxD79 1 month ago
I think he was pissed because you smashed right into him.
nothing4224 1 month ago
That first under-over exchange of positions was beautiful. The crash however, was your fault. You tried to go around the corner more quickly but going outside the track boundary and widening your arc.
TranceFur 1 month ago
@TranceFur
yes you cant go offtrack and then turn immediately right, to go back on the track....
ScantraxxReloaded 1 month ago
@ScantraxxReloaded its obvious you never raced at Sebring. I was in normal trajectory.
MaxD79 1 month ago
@MaxD79
yes mate you're right here.I have to apologize, my mate told me this was totally legit.
Sorry for that, it was a good fight then
ScantraxxReloaded 4 weeks ago
From my point of view (i.e. the view of somebody who hasn't raced on this circuit) you went outside the track boundaries so therefore his initial passing move was valid and you should have given way regardless of whether or not it is considered the normal racing line (his line was within the track boundaries). It was a normal racing incident as you simply didn't see/expect it. His actions after this incident were dirty though, pushing someone off the track like that is a dick move.
seismica 1 month ago
@seismica Following a second look at the incident, you are correct, he turned in far too late and was aiming for you. Could just be a mistake, but considering his actions afterwards, I doubt it.
seismica 1 month ago
I've never raced at sebring so my opinion may be flawed but it did look to me that you left the door wide open, (even if it is the normal line you should of been aware that you were "asking' for someone close behind to put one up the inside) Perhaps you could of left him more room to avoid it but on the other hand it should be remembered that is the responsibility of the overtaker not to make contact. What he did on the straight was well out of line though, just petty, childish behaviour.
cocorocks88 2 months ago
I would say he thought that the first contact was your fault and was so mad he didn't think straight and said to himself it could have been a racing crash so he wanted to get revenge even though it was not your fault. I had that happen to me once and I knew it was a racing inccident so I didn't do anything then he rammed me so I turned him And went fliping in the air. I was mad so it hurt me to becuase I was not driving straight so he should have kept calm or he is going to make a lot of enemys
sparmar174 2 months ago
that's just racing, not dirty. but if that gray car would've tried pushing me into the grass again, i would've sent him for a ride
BlueLightning48 2 months ago
Not dirty, aggressive, but at the same time not too aggressive
ericstranne 3 months ago
Well it doesn't matter what you did, because I'm very certain that usage of profanity and slurs is against the ToS of this game.
If I was a judge here, I'd temp-ban the idiot(s) who used such language first, then look into the race.
FHCTech 3 months ago
he punted you. you were doing your raceline
mrgregoryhovesen 3 months ago
looks like you tryed to keep it clean,,, but i did not see the full race u could have been blocking for a few laps so in that sence you somtimes have to be aggressive to pass!!! did you finish the race? and yes he was a little dirty that is just good racing it slowed him down he could have kept it clean after the pass but he did not have a clean head and wanted to take u out he is a jack ass next time u know "just dont give a inch if he wants the place make him work for it after all it is arace
ZXROCKITX 3 months ago
you're not a dirty driver. you ran wide didn't check you're mirrors and yourself and the grey jetta made contact. i would say the grey jetta was the dirty driver. not you.
MiniOne82 3 months ago
@MiniOne82 yeah to be honest i didnt run wide i was in right trajectory (check the blue car behind us). Anyway thnks.
MaxD79 3 months ago
I'd have turned him after attempting to push me in the grass the first time.
TheDolphinsfan1966 3 months ago
im officially sayin youre the racing man! and the man in black (eh, or dark grey?) car is a douche.
i would do more ruthless if i were you after pushed to the grass tho'
parampam92 4 months ago
I think you returned a bit too fast back on track at 0:29. But what happened after that is totally to blame at that no. 1 driver...
FrankypankyV8 4 months ago
at 0:29 you weren't checking your mirrors.
jackobcooper 4 months ago
@jackobcooper usually when i'm doing a turn into the limit coming from another turn where the trajectory is that (check the 3rd do the same trajectory as me) i dont watch much mirror..basically becouse there was all the straight after and he could have used sleepstream to pass me easily and avoid the 3rd to pass both. This is what my brain says ;-)
MaxD79 4 months ago
@MaxD79 All I can say is that trying to overtake in this turn is totally irrealistic, he just wanted to pass in force. Plus we clearly see he's trying push him out on the grass at 1:15 min. For me you were having a fair driving and the black car is just a bad looser.
MrRouxs 4 months ago
Simple as the guy in the black car lacked situational awareness to be that close to cars racing, knowing where a car is and holding his line through corners would have avoided this but without race awareness he failed which caused you both to rub paint
UKVoodooUK 4 months ago
Not dirty but you left the door open on the corner and he took the chance. 50/50 fault, you should have been more obsverent and (according to the iRacing guide) the overtaking driving has the responsibility to an ensure the overtaking is safe.
orb505 5 months ago
in my opinion you´re too agresive and in iracing this mostly means dirty¡
Drive safety¡¡
rudopi360 5 months ago
If you have to post a video and ask a bunch of strangers if you drive dirty, you probably already know the answer and you're just trying to justify your bad driving. Driving dirty on purpose and just being a bad racer are different things. You might just be the latter. Discretion is the better part of valor. Use discretion.
troym72 5 months ago
i was the black car sorry i was loose and yep ur a dirty driver
SuperTannerP 5 months ago
Max you're just a WRECKER :D
Fredjo999 5 months ago
HOW DID YOU NOT JUST WRECK HIM??????????????????
saintsrulz 6 months ago
He dragged it...
JenerationJ 6 months ago
It's just aggresiveness. I would've given him room, but not much :p
AzuraFan49 6 months ago
I would say it might have been the courteous thing to do on Lap 3 to give him space which, had you not gone too far to the right and tapped him, he would have had, but he did have the inside line, though after he did try pushing off the track...
BrosefGaming 6 months ago
hes lucky it wasnt me, ida dumped him in the last corner of the video
he knew you were faster than he, so he tried to wreck your car so he can win instead.
THETICK36 6 months ago
All I see is a nice crossover at the start, and the black car crowding the white one from then on.
evolutionx777 6 months ago
According to the iracing driving school the driver making the pass is responsible for making sure that no contact occurs, but it also says that you you are side by side you have to make sure you both give each other enough room. I would say that it was a normal racing incident. Do you use the spotter? Also, name calling is absolutely against the iracing sporting code and fully warrants reporting.
gam883 6 months ago
honestly you let him pass if you do and you keep up and he does that crap you should pit him and put him out theres no need to keep bashing you off the track like that and theres no need for him to drive on the track if he is going to do that kind of crap.
PAC0TAC0 7 months ago
when you swung in on him like that, it wasnt clean for sure... i woudnt say its dirty, because he dove in there
one21twoone2 7 months ago
I see no dirty drive here, just some tough pass started by him and you just tried to keep control so I think you did good.
Duron13 8 months ago
he is an even bigger noob since he could have definately passed u anywhere else if u r making small mistakes like that.
CDUB8989 10 months ago
u should have pulled a kyle busch man - "Just f*cking drive your sh*t you little b*tch" - and left him with that like yah sure a hole was there but as a driver u r suppose to think a little further ahead than the very corner u r approaching. Pretty sure is anyone else saw u run that wide line they would have just ran a normal line and set u up for the straightaway instead of damaging their car hitting into u. AND if it was just a rookie error by u braking at that corner in the jetta then...
CDUB8989 10 months ago
Its ok to give a little bump or to trade paint, but delibrately spinning someone out or pit manuvering is what I consider dirty.
mattador2792 10 months ago
I love full contact racing. BTCC is like that and the best racing series in the world.
btypirate 10 months ago
You should have given him more space in lap3. Maybe it was normal raceline you drove but he was just in the way. Afterwards on the straight I can't say if it was anybody's fault because by touching his rear with your front you made him turn to the left and maybe that appeared to you as if he wanted to push you out of the track. But maybe he did this on purpose, I don't know. The remaining "incidents" are just regular close and entertaining racing.. Btw how can I record the voice-chat in Iracing?
m2themax 1 year ago
@m2themax hi m8 the problem is not the contact itslef really but the fact i was accused to drive dirty and so mandy bad words..and after that on the straight i was not pushing him back..it was just deliberately a bad moves (he sayd he had brokne wheel after that..) it was an official race remember where there was a prize (a jetta real champ) and i was not taking part cause i am not american..so basically he was first..and doing that he let Wyatt (the blu car) go and win.
MaxD79 1 year ago
never have i seen that reffered to as "dirty, that is touring car racing, althougl with 11 laps to go you should have checked your mirrors and tucked in behind, but very defensive driving
shanklin100 1 year ago
straight away stuff was dirty on the other guys part... on lap 3 you should have looked to see if there was someone1 was going to make a pass and thus give him room and at the same time he should have been looking to see if you noticed and he could have braked real hard either way contact could have been avoided but it wasnt intentional so id call not dirty just misjudgement after that you should have learned and realised he was gonna make a pass that time he had the right and u should give room
MrTNL3 1 year ago
@MrTNL3 i raced so many at Sebring and trust me thats not the right point to pass(if you do not do mistakes obviously) for some reason. First it was on lap 2 and not the last lap. Second i was not racing for that championship cause i couldnt win the final prize (not amercian so he was first efectivelly). Third doing a pass there means exit slow for all the straight respect a normal race line and it means you would have been easily passed by the "3rd" that was in fight for the champ (Wyatt)
MaxD79 1 year ago
Not dirty. Dude was mad that you made him look slow and found a spot on the track where he could poke his nose in and cause contact. These babies are common online.
thekswervedirt 1 year ago
You turned in on him, if there is a space it's a good time to pass, he took advantage and probably wouldn't of made it work well but you didn't give room.
laughsatposers 1 year ago
you dont drive dirty you drive aggressive. But rubbins racin!
PowerstrokeRacing24 1 year ago
He saw a huge opening and rightfully took it, therefor blocking your ability to complete your transfer to the apex, which is a classic technique. If you saw him, you wouldn't have hit him. Now, if he was an asshole about it, then he needs to leave the service, because cussing at people is against the rules, and it's childish to insult someone because of an accident. If he wants to cuss at people and get away with it, then LFS and rFactor are free. He can go there and be a dick all he wants.
xilix 1 year ago 4
It's nit dirty but if you're that wide in the turn cut in and hit somebody that wrng. If wide stay wide
TylerDrew3000 1 year ago
I don't see any dirty racing here at all.
Personally - I think this is proper racing. Real race drivers are competitive. Obviously not competitive up to the point where you're deliberately ramming each other off the track though.
The first clip, to me - demonstrated some pretty nice driving. You lost the advantage but turned it around nicely and regained the position.
The grey car pushing you onto the grass on the straight though is pretty uncalled for. I agree with you there.
jonthedoors 1 year ago
Wrong place to over take, black car didn't have enough room. That was a very aggressive move. Really wasn't your fault . There is no way you can brake there, also he wouldn't have made the turn if you were not there.
zYzmrZIzYz 1 year ago
Black car looks like a dbag,
ShOrTBus3748 1 year ago
actually your clean but you did hit him when you were going back on the track you did hit him and your not suppose to do that but you might have not seen him which happens a lot other wise no your driving is not dirty
kylemcevoy 1 year ago
Nope Max you don't race dirty the black car came down on you in the end. You clearly had the line. He probably got mad coz you put that Dale Earnhart move when he passed you and you passed him back.
FMUlakeland 1 year ago
not your fault it happens next time just give him a feign coming into a turn fake outside then dive in or inside and drive to the outside then when he comes up give him a shot in the ass and a one finger salute
bubslate 1 year ago
lap 3 - Dirty no, i would say you were more at fault than him though, it looks better from the over head shot. going into that corner he was more than enough along side you to have ago its just a shame that you turned when you did but you had no choice.
Lap 11 - you might have been quicker but he the corner a dab on the breaks would avoided that.
one other thing you always get squeezed like that in the jettas, its classic saloon racing just something you will have to get used to
GrahamAlmighty 1 year ago
I don't think you are dirty, per se. However, you did go off the track, past the white line, to make that turn. Once off track, its your responsibility to get back on track without hitting anyone. It would be like using pit-out to make a pass. However, the black car did seem to try to push you off course, which was dirty. Twice no less. These are common in racing. Take it with a grain of salt and move on. Just don't go off track again :)
Shentarz31 1 year ago
he was the dirty driver...on lap 3 you took a normal line, but judging by your cockpit view I don't think you left much room to the inside, you looked like you would have approached the bumper..
However the grey car had a terrible line, he would have messed that turn up and lost a good 1 sec on his lap time because of it...that it the only reason the contact seemed so harsh...if he had a normal line at worst it would have been a little door rubbing and a drag race down the straight.
SuperColossal33 1 year ago
I dont think that was witn a bad intention, but you made that turn like nobody was there... you should give him some room... but I dont think that was a dirty move... On simulators the field of view is complicated, I see that as a normal incident, not big deal...
blmmuller 1 year ago
yup, you pushed him, you were returning the track, so your are supposed to NOT hit others while doing it
asdfgosu 1 year ago
@asdfgosu i think you never raced at Sebring. My line was normal race line, check the 3rd car and see wich line is doing and it's not an har dbraking with jetta and if you brake there you ARE OUT. Watch other things that he does to me then, dont stop on the first contact.
Blind guys..sense of racing = 0
MaxD79 1 year ago 9
WOW, That was fun to watch. Thats good type of racing when you are bouncing of each other but not actually wrecking. If this were a real race, you guys would of put on a show for the fans! Nice Video. BTW yes you were "dirty" but so was he and thats what made it fun to watch.
stuntin46 1 year ago
Good driving, I might give the jetta a shot one of these days. That looked fun.
MERSLK230 2 years ago
You didn't do anything wrong. He was mad that you were faster, nice save by the way.
kasey9fan 2 years ago
he called u dirty...wow, hes the worst ive seen
vivaSchumi7 2 years ago
looks like the white car was a bit wild in places,~1 car did seem a little better on his line and speed,which car are you
britsrus 2 years ago
great driving, man!! #1 car suck bigtime on trying to take you off the track... it would be a pleasure to race with you! =D
quati 2 years ago
What I like about Iracing (the short time I subscribed) is the lack of idiots. I've done some stupid stuff but hey thats how you learn, but you learn fast and iracing forces a little patience. If he made a protest, that was immature. You didn't do anything wrong. Anyways I'm thinking about subscribing again. How quick can I buy the jetta? That looks awesome!
frogger0528 2 years ago
@frogger0528 sadly the lack of idiots isnt really there anymore -_-
HendrickFan2488548 2 years ago
Wow, lot of patience on your part. I would have executed a pit maneuver and put his ass into a wall. lol
MCP2002 2 years ago
man the guy in the black car drove like an idiot the whole way. thats how youre supposed to drive smooth not choppy hes too brake happy and obviously has no idea how to road race. even the guy in the blue car followd your line so why did he dive bomb it
XC0688 2 years ago
thats my driving style too calm and relaxed
subeefan 2 years ago
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Arlebrink 2 years ago
you did nothing wrong. you showed excellent patience though, I would have turned that black car around first chance I got. Also a fellow iRacer here.
jsheets15 2 years ago
you turned in on him. Your fault. Doesn't make you "dirty" but you were not aware of what was going on around you.
OppressioN25 2 years ago
Ok explain me how i turned into him if i was yet into the turn. This is curious. Watch his brakes and watch when i brake or 3rd brakes..
I can do whenever i want that sort of passing..it's easy i just dont brake and use the car ahed or yet in trajectory to stop my speed. He should have used the inside kurb if he wanted to pass there..but it wa simpossible too fast there.
And btw, did u ever race on that track? You know how is that turn?
MaxD79 2 years ago
@MaxD79 Well you asked for opinions, you got 'em. I agree on others, lap 3 you turned in on him. Your fault whether he was able to keep it together or not.
Other then that i didnt see you do anything wrong. Black car did push you off a few times though, which is more "dirty" then your move on lap 3.
MolanoZwolle 1 year ago
turned in on him? oh come on. look at the line of the grey car. he was out way too wide. max even left him some space inside. the grey car hit him and then even tried to push him of twice.
grinmaster1 2 years ago
Can't see what you did wrong Max, if anything the black car has divebombed you. He wasn't alongside when he braked and probably wouldn't have made the turn without hitting you. Also looks like he tries to drive you off track twice.
Of course things often look different on the other guys replays, so I wouldn't want to condemn the other driver without seeing his replay, but you did nothing wrong. I wouldn't expect someone to try a pass at Le Mans without getting alongside earlier.
fish998765432 2 years ago 2
This guy andre gomes is dangerous, he is aggressive. One time he made one of this moves on me and i get him out of the race on purpose. And like every cry baby he made a protest on me.
Fuckin idiot
lironjdb 2 years ago
he had no chance to pass you there. he was too fast into the corner and he would have gone wide.
Paps1984 2 years ago
lap 1 you had the corner, you gave him room but got back around him anyway
For the incidents on lap 3 and 11, I think that corner is hard to judge b/c everyone sweeps wide left OFF the track. lap 3 I don't think he ever had position. lap 11, one could argue he did at the conventional turn in point on the track (not going left of the curbing).
regardless the bumping on the straight is ridiculous, no matter the circumstance.
just my opinion
ra64t 2 years ago
hi ra64. I want to clear out that for me was not a problem all of this. I enjoyed the race. But i was accused to drive dirty,arrogant from that guy, and he sayed bad words..that's the worst thing.
Cya on track.
MaxD79 2 years ago
props to you then. The bad language is again unacceptable.
anyway hopefully one day I'll be fest enough to mix it up with you guys.
ra64t 2 years ago
If that black car had done that to me, he would have regretted it at the next corner
jamesgp2viper 2 years ago
To be honest man, that move on Lap 3 looked legit. He got himself into position and from the chopper camera it looked like you just turned into him. From your cockpit view, I'd bet you had absolutely no idea he'd try and pass in such a stupid place. When he was trying to push you off thats what he shouldn't have done. He was clearly leaving you no room to pass. Thats a no-no. He did that on purpose. Still, dont see why he was being so aggresive. Send a protest. You'll win.
OrionPeterRead 2 years ago
Peter a part all he is out of trajectory. you know if i wasnt there he woudlt have done the turn..look the 3rd is doing my trajectory in that turn and i still stayide a bit large in enter, usually i go into the inside kurbs a lot. I couldnt do nothing there a part going on grass to avoid him. But was not a problem at all.
MaxD79 2 years ago
Yeah you make a good point. I guess he was just frustrated he was being beaten by a better driver.
OrionPeterRead 2 years ago
I think the pass he made on you that started this whole thing was a good aggressive pass, but there is absolutely no fault on your part for not expecting it and making contact. Everything else he did after is cry baby crap, and you should protest him.
chrismodiano 2 years ago 12
I Agree 100% with you.
MaxD79 2 years ago
What degrees rotation do you use? And what strength force feedback?
Blackhawk9188 2 years ago
900°, FF 3 ingame and 107 on Widnows panel (g25 wheel)
MaxD79 2 years ago
That was Andre Gomes driving that gray car. He is really aggressive, too much so. I have raced with you before, and I found that you were a very clean racer. I am not sure why he is saying that. I am not sure what your protest will accomplish. I just recently did the same thing when I was taken out from the lead on the last lap to finish 4th. iRacing did not do anything about it because they "can't." Good luck though.
Blackhawk9188 2 years ago
Hey Max, was it Rory King?
Blackhawk9188 2 years ago
if he says what you state in description, go for a complaint without any doubt!
fabryk77 2 years ago
just send a protest...
hard racing, cool vid !
iRacingFlorianGodard 2 years ago
Protest!
antongandon1986 2 years ago