tyler left because he couldnt handle having to worry about other people except himself. if you watch his interview thats exactly what he said. I dont hate him but that interview showed his selfish side. I liked tyler alot but i saw hance and tyler both live with woe is me and i like hance better, i feel like he cares more about his fans and well...hes not selfish.
i would rather be in a band then solo its more fun more meaning and who really needs money over family i know i don't id rather smell like shit eat fast food all day doing what i love with my brothers (band mates) then be making crap ton of cash and smelling good and eating good that's just my opinion
Vengeance was written towards Tyler, if you breakdown the lyrics a lot of them are a spin off of lyrics for some of their other songs like you lost your flame in the darkest of night is a spin off of [&] Delinquents where it says my ambitions are constantly burning out...but ya its a song made of hate and its amazing
hance is better vocalist for Woe Is ME in my opinion tyler was amazing yes but he is probably better off as a solo artist cuz if you ever REALLY stop and look at him in any video that's the kind of charisma he has. hance is deffinitely a right for for the band because if you look at them together now everybody seems to mesh better somehow now.
Three way I see it, I don't think tyler was into the type of music Woe Is, Me was playing. And probably figured why am I in a band that plays music I don't like. However, I really didn't like how he just left without telling anybody before, but if like to think it was because he was afraid of letting everyone else down because everyone else obviously loves what they are doing, and didn't want to see the look on their faces knowing that a member of their family was leaving.
He still USED them. No matter how you say it, it's still USING WIM. Yeah, i get it, there was only that kind of music in his area but that's still using them for fame.. so he could become the next Justin Timberlake. COOL TYLER JUST COOL.
People have to understand that bands like this don't really make much money. Tyler has a true singing ability, and out of all the vocalists of this genre, it is obvious to say that Tyler has a higher chance of making it as a solo artist and make so much more money. Face it, R&B music is more mainstream and their is way more money in it. Seriously, you can't say that if you can sing like Tyler, you wouldn't wanna make money off the voice you know is amazing.
I don't think you should join a band unless you PLAN TO STICK WITH IT! He made AMAZING music with the band and he gained so many fans who like THAT kind of music. Now that he is switching over to pop does he think he will keep all those fans? Despite his amazing voice I don't like that genre so I won't be listening to him... Hance has an amazing voice anyways and as long as Woe, Is Me is still making music I will still listen to them. P.S. Vengeance is a fucking AMAZING SDFGHJ song
I don't want it to sound like I'm being mean or anything but every time I've seen Woe, Is Me (who is one of my favorite bands) Tyler just seemed to think higher of himself & was a bit arrogant, which he's talented so I guess he has more of a right to be, but maybe he didn't like sharing the spotlight. And it seems like him & the rest of the band had some tension between them. I don't know if we'll ever know the full story but I wish both Tyler & Woe, Is Me the best.
For all of you asking about nirvana, he was making a joke. He was tslking about getting to eat the cake all by yourself. And in buddahism thats what they strive for, the upmost high and peacefulness which they call "nirvanna" so he was just making a joke saying getting to eat a cake all by yourself is like "nirvanna"
vengeance was written about tyler, not just like kinda or sorta. just a song about him leaving and the boys in woe getting how they felt about it out in the open.
Tyler left for the spotlight, yea everyone praised him for his vocals but he wasnt the main factor in the rise of woeis, everyone in the band was amazing at what they did especially michael, austin, devo, ben and corey. he had the same tone in every song on number[s] and it got boring really fast. now hance showed multiple styles of singing on just vengence (which i get the fucking chills everytime i hear him lol) but everyone said he wouldnt be as good but he raised the bar to a whole new level
this song WAS written about tyler. i saw woe is me last sunday and met hance and asked him if it was written about tyler and he said it was. then i gave him the best knuckle touch of his life because tyler's a piece of shit and hance is the man
Tyler cannot lie through his teeth and say his passion was not in Woe. He may have not pictured himself from a young age being in a band like this. When I watch the Fame > Demise acoustic he absolutely gets right into the song, and the lyrics in Woe's music have so much more meaning and impact on the fans. The fans, I have to say if fans of any genre have any passion about music, its fans of hardcore music.
@WoeAttackOfTheMice, He's going to make it a lot further than Woe, Is Me will. Honestly, I love Woe, Is Me, I love Tyler Carters' solo work and, I like Hance Alligoods' as well. I'm supporting both Woe, Is Me and Tyler Carter but honestly, I believe that Tyler will make it further than Woe, Is Me will. More people listen to R&B than the do Post-Hardcore so obviouslly he's going to get noticed more as well as keep some fans from Woe, Is Me. He does want money and fame and he's on the right path.
I think that Tyler's voice is good- for mainstream. Not this type of music. I absolutely loved Woe, Is Me then and I also love them now. I personally prefer Hance, I think his voice suits the band a lot better. And if Tyler wants to go off releasing this stuff that I consider garbage.. Then whatever.
If you knew Tyler locally before WIM, that question's really easy to answer. He didn't really like hardcore that much... He's an extremely humble and cool guy, but even when he sang for a path less traveled you could tell he just wasn't that into it. The guys from WIM knew that.. idk why they're getting so butt hurt. it's also notable that Hance ALSO took Tyler's spot in APLT after he left. Hance doesn't like Tyler obviously. doesn't matter. it's music regardless of the drama.
@dastallionduck the song itself was not that offensive, just at the second it was released on youtube i saw that tyler carter twittered that it was a song that he wrote and that woe, is me had no permission to use it as their music. that must've been the hardest part for him, if it's true. they argued a little bit but a few miutes later everyone kind of "apologized" and said, that they still love each other and that their still a family
Tyler Carter is amazing i will always support him on what he does his solo stuff is great and everyone who hates him for leaving can go suck a dick. Ok Bye :-)
then theres gonna be alot of dick sucking.... feel free to watch his mainstream crap he left to go play. too bad its making a faction of the views that every other mainstream artist has.
When I met Michael from WIM at the No Guts No Glory show, he said that everyone in WIM is pissed at Tyler Carter because he told Associated Press that he was leaving before he told the band
The reason Woe is me is mad at him is because he didn't even tell him in person, phone call, NOTHING, they found out when the news leaked on the Internet, in all honesty that's a shitty way to leave the band, if yu wanna know about it look up the interview with Austin thorton about it
People forget Tyler was not the only member that left woe,is me they lost 2 guitarist this year but no even took the chance to put it in to thought that left WHILE on tour and have to look for guitarist on a short noticed, but Tyler left AFTER touring and left during the writing of vengeance, and guess what they still went on tour as of planned. what did he do follow his dream,like they tell people to do.
I think people should stop overracting & bitching. :) WIM is amazing, with or without tyler. Its not a one man group. They all have talent! Just enjoy the music, yes of course Tyler is amazing himself. I support both of them! But people arent perfect, they made mistakes on how things went down. Who cares! Just enjoy the music they each make. :3 -3
I just think maybe he didn't enjoy making music that wasn't necessarily his style, he might of thought he wanted to produce heavy metal music but then later on decided he wanted to be more of a pop singer/writer because in some WIM interviews I have seen Tyler has admitted to listening to the likes of justin bieber and the jonas brothers, I'm not saying that's a bad thing or anything, I just think heavy metal was maybe not his favorite genre to sing and perform.
Tyler Carter left because he has way too much talent to be wasted in a (in my opinion) mediocre post-hardcore band. People need to remember Tyler is only 19 he has a lot more years ahead of him. If you don't like him now fine, but just wait in a few years this guy will topping the billboard charts.
Tyler carter since he was about 16 hated hardcore music, the only reason he got involved because here in georgia that's the only to get big in the music scene.
When Tyler joined a band called A Path Less Traveled around 08-09, they blow up in the local scene here in GA, but Tyler always said he hated the heavy music with techno and trance it and such.
From day 1 he was striving to get in a signed band then eventually leave to pursue his dream because that is the only way to do it around here.
@omarmagana822 So he was using Woe, Is me for his own career....? I don't care because I like Hance, he's a new great addition to the band and Michael's screaming is so intence and amazing now. I know they will make it out big but I'm disapointed in Tyler.
@omarmagana822 i actually dont know how much of that is true, because i saw him at warped tour throwing down hard to the word alive in mountain view. theres a video of it on you tube. its kinda funny haha.
Vengeance is the best fucking rock/screamo/hardcore song out there, i ove that song and i totally believe it was written towards tyler, i mean there is plenty of evidence in the lyrics, tyler carter's main quote was "never loose your flames" and in vengeance it says "you lost your flames" also at the end of the song Fame over demise says "you'll reap what you sow" and in vengeance it says "i told you that you'll reap what you sow but you wanted fame so fuck your ego" its pretty clear.
you cant really blame the guy! I'm a huge fan of hardcore music , ive been in bands but with a voice like his its alot eaiser to get big and popular with the type of music he's doing. but from listening to woe,is me new song there going to do just fine without him!
umm are you not forgetting that Tyler pretty much got Woe to where they are now. sure, Hance is good but he'll never be Tyler. there are reasons behind Tyler leaving. we dont know the full story of it all. was it right for the band to attack Tyler through their music, of course not. but he'll get them back. and they'll see that they're wrong. completely.
crap to deal with. As you can see with Side to Side, Tyler Carter is singing about the raw beauty of booty-butt naked on the table sex. No deep message, no stinging wounds, just making love. It's not so complex, but it's real and stress-free. I bet that was a contributing factor to him leaving. He wanted to sing without expressing all of that hurt (even if it was his hurt).
Anyway, there may have been conflicts about the message and theme of the band. Notice the overall theme of Number[s] is a destructive father/son relationship; Hell even the album cover shows Gepetto and Pinocchio... Or Frankenstein and his monster (who knows). Whoever is the core writer behind these lyrics was dumping a lot of heat from either a symbiotic or an abusive relationship with his father, and unless your bandmates can relate, that's a lot of pressure and cr
WOE IS ME IS STILL GONNA BE AMAZING!!!! The band was Woe Is Me NOT Woe Is Tyler. Austin (WIM Drummer) Said they arent changing their style and #Vengeance is a taste of what they are gonna be releasing in the future! Best of luck to Tyler but Woe Is Me is gonna be better
The difference between Tyler and Hance is that Tyler gave the pop high pitch feel which made woe is me special Hance gives them the more metal-core sound that I think they were originally going for and it also has a special feel to it excited for last Friday night and new woe is
I go off of facts straight from the band. Tyler left cause he wanted to be solo he was having an issue it might have been a leadership one with austin it might not have. Woe is me wrote vengeance to get back at tyler for the way he left them not because he did. Woe is me didn't know till an hour before it was press released and it was thru a 3rd party email. He never told anyone he planned to leave but some had suspicions. Hance is a damn good singer and so is Tyler.
Post-hardcore man... it's called post-hardcore. And I don't really think Tyler is special. However, I think Hance is. Tyler has the avrage post-hardcore voice, high pitched and stuff. Hance has an voice that drives on power, not on high notes like every other post-hardcore band around.
Is that even a question? This video was a waste, it is 100 percent obvious that Vengeance was written about Tyler considering they quote his old lyrics in the song and say things like "you wanted fame" and "your fending for the spotlight" etc.
I think Tyler and Austin kind of went against each other, I love vengeance, and Hance is really good with studio magic, I've seen live videos of him though, it was kind of sad.
Listen to Fame>Demise, then listen to Vengeance. The songs have the EXACT same format. Thats why it was written so quickly. Vengeance is their best song ever; but they had some wild writers block. And yes i think its about Tyler/
He wanted fame and money. Simple as that. Honestly you can find someone with the same voice anywhere, so you all need to stop riding the kids shaft. His new music is terrible, but of course that is just my opinion. Why listen to his solo music when I can listen to someone better, like Justin Timberlake or Usher? His pop sounds amatuer in my opinion. I think he made a mistake by selling out too quickly. Now it seems as though he will lose more than he will gain. Serves him right.
@WoeAttackOfTheMice his solo music isnt new he was doing it all through the time he was with woe and honestly money and fame is pretty much the only reason people do anything
@WoeAttackOfTheMice You're right. I love tylers side to side and vengeance but I think another reason he left is because he and austin never really got along. I know in a band you get tired of each other at times but He and austin it was constant, That probably led him to a ..."give me another reason to leave" type thing. But, oh well....both the band and tyler are doing well for themselves
@WoeAttackOfTheMice He dont wanted fame or money ! If he would he would stay there...you think woe is me was small? All he wanted is to make the music he loves, RnB. And to be honest he has a good voice that for. Dont hate on him because ppl talk shit about him
@WoeAttackOfTheMice couldn't agree more, my sister likes pop and when she heard his new stuff she was like: this is terrible! and she actually liked him when he was in woe is me, even though she doesn't even like metal lol. but it was good music and anyone could tell.. this is not the best decision he made and I'm sure he'll realize this
@WoeAttackOfTheMice tylers voice is one of a kind, I've never heard his voice anywhere before, so if you are so confident in your statement then where are these singers?
Lol, vengeance is probably the most direct attack at a former band member that I have ever seen. Just look at the lyrics. The lyrics would confirm Bryan's theory. The lyrics talk about fiending for spotlight, fucking people over, and ultimately how WIM is gonna leave a bigger impact on the world "without the likes" of Tyler Carter.
@dastallionduck Uh no, they even said themselves that it's a continuation of Fame Over Demise. It has nothing to do with Tyler and they said their on good terms with him. Get your facts straight.
@tokashima that's what i thought at first, but tyler said himself that he wrote a small part of the lyrics and the rest was towards him. he could be just being a little girl though...
heard tyler left because he didn't feel the passion or something anymore. fair enough, he's turned into a wannabe justin timberlake anyway. woe is me are better off without him, hance has a really strong rocky voice, suits the band more than tyler did.
tyler's a great singer, just don't think he suited this band.
yall are all fucking stupid!! this is his cousin and i could give a fuck who doesnt believe me! if yoh think for one second that tyler left for any reason other than he was tired of the drinking and being pressured with drugs all the tim yall are retarded! i was there and they all criticized him when he wouldnt and he was tired of it! i was too when they asked me! so ive seen it all first hand and believe it or not! he was gonna quit weather or not he got another record deal!
Carter has a nice voice..But woe is me chorus r boring when carter is around..Sounds the same to me(or im the only one) besides our number(s)..Till Hance debut on woe is me..Their new song vengeance has a kickass chorus plus hance voice is kinda nice to me..I dont mind if hance is their permanent singer..
Isn't uphill his first solo song? And Tyler's just following his passion he said from the start he's inspired by r&b so not like a surprise he left I was expecting from the start he was gonna leave sucks but oh well his life to live
So what it REALLY boils down to, is he had a huge ego and he was selfish and wanted money, and he was a pussy because he couldn't handle the tour life.
Why must everyone bitch about Tyler leaving woe is me? Neither of the two artists are ( even though vengeance seems like its towards him ) so if they're over it , why can't the "fans" be too? Both artists are amazing and people need to realize that changes like this happen all the time, that's the music industry.
with every band that loses a singer like etf n chidios bands change for better or for worse woe is me as a bwith tyler to me made them very unqiue and fresh to have a different type of singer in that kind of music as for the new singer he sounds good u cant truely judge a new singer until the they release a new album that works with the new singers voice/band
hance is great, but i think tyler's voice was more unique. but i really like hance in woe, is me, he's really talented. there is no doubt that vengeance was about tyler, just look at the lyrics. i still love them, with or without tyler. tyler's new music is great too c: [s] army for life <3
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Vegeance is about Tyler. If you look up te lyrics, they're angry, they're definitely towards one person, and the thing I noticed the most was that they're spitting his lyrics back at him.
Tyler was probably tired of writing music having to split parts with the other vocalist. The transitions between the two were limited, and Tyler knew he could be more diverse by himself. Watch their live performances and you'll see that Tyler is always ready to be a star onstage but has to back off because of transitioning all the time.
@Adtrtyler69 haha sorry but as for Tylers style of singing hance will prolly never be that good, hance is a talented singer but will never sound nor write what Tyler brought to Woe Is Me. Tyler brought originality to that band and Hance kinda just makes them sound like every other hardcore band. Basically everyones basing his talent off of one song that no ones ever even heard live lmao but Tyler on the other hand brought us Number[s] and many amazing vocal performances and acoustic sessions..
@polarbear1011 Tyler seemed to only have one style when singing. Delinquents was awesome but then all of a sudden every song sounded the same and it got boring. Tyler is the reason why I gave up on woe is me and stopped listening. Hance in tgif and vengeance made the songs not boring and not the same. Even jonny craig sounds different in DGD and Emarosa. Tyler is good don't get me wrong but he wasn't good for woe is me.
Sadly, you have to be a retard to "think" vengeance is about tyler. Its a direct fuck you to him, everrry lyric relates to him, the biggest "you lost your flames in the darkest of nights" because tyler ALWAYS says "never lose your flames" either way. Hance >>> Tyler x5000
He left because relationships between him and the band were dying, and when he could have been doing things for Woe, is me he left and would do stuff for the name Tyler Carter, he also did not like the scene that he was in, he was always more in to the solo r&b side, but he left in a bad way. And the new singer is great, he is way more dedicated.
I thought the same thing with him like going solo. If you can make money & have it all to yourself, or split it, come on you obviously would want to make more money. It must be a huge guilt trip abandoning the band, but maybe they weren't getting along? Tyler is young and will go places with his voice, why not give it a shot? He only has one life, and I'm NOT surprised he left, I know he'll probably get famous. The only thing stopping him is the hipsters that want to keep him to their ears only.
im kinda glad tyler left. ever since i have been listening to them, i KNEW that tyler was going to leave the band to do his own thing and make more money (or as i like to call it, "selling out"). i loved tylers voice, but i hated his cockyness on stage. i think hance fits the band real nicely.
its his decision so everyone should just let it be. If he wasn't feeling it anymore it's a good thing he left the band. It would show at concerts and through the music that he was unhappy. I love his new song side to side soooo all the haters can hop off.
Tyler can run from his problems, but they'll follow him like a trend...
moonshield343 5 days ago 2
Tyler was great, but I think Hance is better.
FelixWemmelMusic 1 week ago
also tyler is an alright singer but hance is X100000000000000000000000000000 times better hance is fucking amazing
HAZZAROX321 1 week ago
tyler is just another one of those people that will give up his friendship for fame
HAZZAROX321 1 week ago
He sounds better with Woe is Me
imthevideomakerdude 2 weeks ago
jonny craig and tyler carter would make eargasmic music hahaha
16acog 2 weeks ago
@16acog Look up "Lion Skin" by Hands Like Houses. Both featured on that song. It's magical.
BFMKsE 2 days ago
@BFMKsE that song is ear gasmic ive herd it before haha but thanks tho man
16acog 2 days ago
tyler was fucking great, oh well, they'll make it work with hance. fuck tyler for being an egotistic bitch
woe, is me is the shit!
Bobiscool123 2 weeks ago
tyler left because he couldnt handle having to worry about other people except himself. if you watch his interview thats exactly what he said. I dont hate him but that interview showed his selfish side. I liked tyler alot but i saw hance and tyler both live with woe is me and i like hance better, i feel like he cares more about his fans and well...hes not selfish.
dancing4eva04 1 month ago
but tyler carter wasnt..woe is me. so your little 6 way cake thing is stupid.
ibanezpearl7 1 month ago
"you've lost your flame" hance
"never lose your flame" Tyler
:O
DaHalo2AzN 1 month ago 4
have you made a video with Memphis may fire if not that would be good check them out
MrDxfan101 1 month ago
i would rather be in a band then solo its more fun more meaning and who really needs money over family i know i don't id rather smell like shit eat fast food all day doing what i love with my brothers (band mates) then be making crap ton of cash and smelling good and eating good that's just my opinion
GrimmScreams 1 month ago
That's what she said.............
esotericexplosian 1 month ago
Vengeance was written towards Tyler, if you breakdown the lyrics a lot of them are a spin off of lyrics for some of their other songs like you lost your flame in the darkest of night is a spin off of [&] Delinquents where it says my ambitions are constantly burning out...but ya its a song made of hate and its amazing
777breebree 1 month ago
"LIKE this video for Tyler Carter" ...*dislikes*
espio99 1 month ago
Yes, Bryan. you DO look damn sexy.
AlexGoesHardcore 1 month ago
They where working on vengeance before he left.
0Schuyler 1 month ago
hance is better vocalist for Woe Is ME in my opinion tyler was amazing yes but he is probably better off as a solo artist cuz if you ever REALLY stop and look at him in any video that's the kind of charisma he has. hance is deffinitely a right for for the band because if you look at them together now everybody seems to mesh better somehow now.
bgangstar93 1 month ago
Three way I see it, I don't think tyler was into the type of music Woe Is, Me was playing. And probably figured why am I in a band that plays music I don't like. However, I really didn't like how he just left without telling anybody before, but if like to think it was because he was afraid of letting everyone else down because everyone else obviously loves what they are doing, and didn't want to see the look on their faces knowing that a member of their family was leaving.
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MarkCrowley95 1 month ago
YOU are right bro tyler carter is a monster, he is so so so GOOOOOOOODDDDD
RoyMilla 1 month ago
Shut the hell up guys, Tyler left, Woe, Is Me is doing good now, Tyler is doing good now. Live your life and just listen to the music.
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TiaaaRochelle 1 month ago
He still USED them. No matter how you say it, it's still USING WIM. Yeah, i get it, there was only that kind of music in his area but that's still using them for fame.. so he could become the next Justin Timberlake. COOL TYLER JUST COOL.
TiaaaRochelle 1 month ago
Woe, Is Me continued without that faggot.
They went on tour with Pierce The Veil, Miss May I, The Amity Affliction, & letlive without him.
They are working on a new album.
& please stop doing "stories" on Woe, Is Me, your wannabe fans that should be listening to Black Veil Brides & Asking Alexandria will get into them.
sidiluvsufoozyzle 1 month ago
screamo isnt a genre there post hardcore fuck
ah0ymariana 1 month ago
i always thought he just wanted to sing R@B.
Rang3rGang 2 months ago
I'm completely over the whole Tyler Situation.
Woe, Is Me is way better now with Hance.
BritneyIntoxicated 2 months ago
People have to understand that bands like this don't really make much money. Tyler has a true singing ability, and out of all the vocalists of this genre, it is obvious to say that Tyler has a higher chance of making it as a solo artist and make so much more money. Face it, R&B music is more mainstream and their is way more money in it. Seriously, you can't say that if you can sing like Tyler, you wouldn't wanna make money off the voice you know is amazing.
Btw, this is coming from a WIM fan.
iamfreddyo 2 months ago
I don't think you should join a band unless you PLAN TO STICK WITH IT! He made AMAZING music with the band and he gained so many fans who like THAT kind of music. Now that he is switching over to pop does he think he will keep all those fans? Despite his amazing voice I don't like that genre so I won't be listening to him... Hance has an amazing voice anyways and as long as Woe, Is Me is still making music I will still listen to them. P.S. Vengeance is a fucking AMAZING SDFGHJ song
stellasara4321 2 months ago
I don't want it to sound like I'm being mean or anything but every time I've seen Woe, Is Me (who is one of my favorite bands) Tyler just seemed to think higher of himself & was a bit arrogant, which he's talented so I guess he has more of a right to be, but maybe he didn't like sharing the spotlight. And it seems like him & the rest of the band had some tension between them. I don't know if we'll ever know the full story but I wish both Tyler & Woe, Is Me the best.
DrummerGirlMAC 2 months ago
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stonedchickk 2 months ago
For all of you asking about nirvana, he was making a joke. He was tslking about getting to eat the cake all by yourself. And in buddahism thats what they strive for, the upmost high and peacefulness which they call "nirvanna" so he was just making a joke saying getting to eat a cake all by yourself is like "nirvanna"
KingThisShit0326 2 months ago
YER DAYUM SEXAY. ;D. teehee.
Weloveroadkill 2 months ago
Tyler carter had to big of an ego to be in a band he wanted to get all the attention!
wesirareoneTV 2 months ago
nirvana?
wesirareoneTV 2 months ago
@wesirareoneTV .....They aren't an existing band anymore...
Weloveroadkill 2 months ago
@Weloveroadkill Bryan mentioned nirvana i know who they are just what does Woe,is me have to do with Nirvana?
wesirareoneTV 2 months ago
@wesirareoneTV Oh. idk. I didn't hear him say it, lolol. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Weloveroadkill 2 months ago
@wesirareoneTV Nirvana also means A state of perfect happiness; an ideal or idyllic place... that's where the band actually got their name from
stellasara4321 2 months ago
@stellasara4321 You're hot
wesirareoneTV 2 months ago
@wesirareoneTV
lol umm thank you? xD
stellasara4321 2 months ago
Nirvana?
wesirareoneTV 2 months ago
Nirvana?
wesirareoneTV 2 months ago
vengeance was written about tyler, not just like kinda or sorta. just a song about him leaving and the boys in woe getting how they felt about it out in the open.
seanathinmcbrad 2 months ago
Tyler left for the spotlight, yea everyone praised him for his vocals but he wasnt the main factor in the rise of woeis, everyone in the band was amazing at what they did especially michael, austin, devo, ben and corey. he had the same tone in every song on number[s] and it got boring really fast. now hance showed multiple styles of singing on just vengence (which i get the fucking chills everytime i hear him lol) but everyone said he wouldnt be as good but he raised the bar to a whole new level
iFireReload 2 months ago 24
@iFireReload dude I totally agree with the boring factor lol
leopard1192 2 months ago
@iFireReload Spot on dude, spot on.
fellisch9 1 month ago
this song WAS written about tyler. i saw woe is me last sunday and met hance and asked him if it was written about tyler and he said it was. then i gave him the best knuckle touch of his life because tyler's a piece of shit and hance is the man
spantalope 2 months ago 14
its obviously an attack on tyler, they used tylers lyrics from past songs and turned them against him. lol
GBReLiance 3 months ago
Any Woe, Is Me fan is going to ride the bands dick and just talk shit on Tyler leaving, and claim Hance is better. Simple as that.
aerodactylaaronV2 3 months ago in playlist More videos from BryanStars2
Tyler cannot lie through his teeth and say his passion was not in Woe. He may have not pictured himself from a young age being in a band like this. When I watch the Fame > Demise acoustic he absolutely gets right into the song, and the lyrics in Woe's music have so much more meaning and impact on the fans. The fans, I have to say if fans of any genre have any passion about music, its fans of hardcore music.
elmntx32 3 months ago
@2:24 Hell yeah bryan we know you are sexy LOL
noecdsadk 3 months ago
Tyler's Voice Is Too Femanine For Woe, Is Me. Hance Gives So Much More :P
AdamBigDickBarkley 3 months ago
im glad hes gone... Stoked for a new album
iHeartPeachhes 3 months ago
in my honest opinion, there is nothing wrong with sleeping with guys that fart and smells like tacos.
kseatrguitarist 3 months ago
@WoeAttackOfTheMice, He's going to make it a lot further than Woe, Is Me will. Honestly, I love Woe, Is Me, I love Tyler Carters' solo work and, I like Hance Alligoods' as well. I'm supporting both Woe, Is Me and Tyler Carter but honestly, I believe that Tyler will make it further than Woe, Is Me will. More people listen to R&B than the do Post-Hardcore so obviouslly he's going to get noticed more as well as keep some fans from Woe, Is Me. He does want money and fame and he's on the right path.
IdgafxP95 3 months ago
I think that Tyler's voice is good- for mainstream. Not this type of music. I absolutely loved Woe, Is Me then and I also love them now. I personally prefer Hance, I think his voice suits the band a lot better. And if Tyler wants to go off releasing this stuff that I consider garbage.. Then whatever.
cannibalisticskittle 3 months ago
If you knew Tyler locally before WIM, that question's really easy to answer. He didn't really like hardcore that much... He's an extremely humble and cool guy, but even when he sang for a path less traveled you could tell he just wasn't that into it. The guys from WIM knew that.. idk why they're getting so butt hurt. it's also notable that Hance ALSO took Tyler's spot in APLT after he left. Hance doesn't like Tyler obviously. doesn't matter. it's music regardless of the drama.
WSadministrator 3 months ago
@dastallionduck the song itself was not that offensive, just at the second it was released on youtube i saw that tyler carter twittered that it was a song that he wrote and that woe, is me had no permission to use it as their music. that must've been the hardest part for him, if it's true. they argued a little bit but a few miutes later everyone kind of "apologized" and said, that they still love each other and that their still a family
MariMistaken 3 months ago
Tyler Carter is amazing i will always support him on what he does his solo stuff is great and everyone who hates him for leaving can go suck a dick. Ok Bye :-)
LoveOpensLocks 3 months ago
@LoveOpensLocks
then theres gonna be alot of dick sucking.... feel free to watch his mainstream crap he left to go play. too bad its making a faction of the views that every other mainstream artist has.
sumSOTY 3 months ago
You mislead me to believe there was an interview here :(
SeedOfCannibalism 3 months ago
hance is WAY better.
yesterdaywasADTR 3 months ago
When I met Michael from WIM at the No Guts No Glory show, he said that everyone in WIM is pissed at Tyler Carter because he told Associated Press that he was leaving before he told the band
hapki9 3 months ago
I think Tyler Carter's voice doesn't sound good with alternative rock :P
ericalpollino 3 months ago in playlist BryanStars2 News
Gay imbred
TNFlips 3 months ago
The reason Woe is me is mad at him is because he didn't even tell him in person, phone call, NOTHING, they found out when the news leaked on the Internet, in all honesty that's a shitty way to leave the band, if yu wanna know about it look up the interview with Austin thorton about it
THEMAYNE15 3 months ago
People forget Tyler was not the only member that left woe,is me they lost 2 guitarist this year but no even took the chance to put it in to thought that left WHILE on tour and have to look for guitarist on a short noticed, but Tyler left AFTER touring and left during the writing of vengeance, and guess what they still went on tour as of planned. what did he do follow his dream,like they tell people to do.
haloblade345 3 months ago
@haloblade345 I miss Tim. I liked his guitar style more :c.
F1reantS 3 months ago
I think people should stop overracting & bitching. :) WIM is amazing, with or without tyler. Its not a one man group. They all have talent! Just enjoy the music, yes of course Tyler is amazing himself. I support both of them! But people arent perfect, they made mistakes on how things went down. Who cares! Just enjoy the music they each make. :3 -3
myvettea 3 months ago
I just think maybe he didn't enjoy making music that wasn't necessarily his style, he might of thought he wanted to produce heavy metal music but then later on decided he wanted to be more of a pop singer/writer because in some WIM interviews I have seen Tyler has admitted to listening to the likes of justin bieber and the jonas brothers, I'm not saying that's a bad thing or anything, I just think heavy metal was maybe not his favorite genre to sing and perform.
SizzleCherry 3 months ago
lol i love both hance and tyler, so yall can suck it!! haha:)
whybutyeah 3 months ago
Tyler Carter left because he has way too much talent to be wasted in a (in my opinion) mediocre post-hardcore band. People need to remember Tyler is only 19 he has a lot more years ahead of him. If you don't like him now fine, but just wait in a few years this guy will topping the billboard charts.
top11dudex 3 months ago in playlist More videos from BryanStars2
Well Hance is better then Tyler. Hance fits Woe Is Me. Tyler never really fit in the band.
ItsMyChannelNotYours 3 months ago
i hate you
imsmrtrthnyou 3 months ago
Hance is Better. Simple as that.
jakeneff725 3 months ago
Tyler carter since he was about 16 hated hardcore music, the only reason he got involved because here in georgia that's the only to get big in the music scene.
When Tyler joined a band called A Path Less Traveled around 08-09, they blow up in the local scene here in GA, but Tyler always said he hated the heavy music with techno and trance it and such.
From day 1 he was striving to get in a signed band then eventually leave to pursue his dream because that is the only way to do it around here.
omarmagana822 3 months ago 23
@omarmagana822 So he was using Woe, Is me for his own career....? I don't care because I like Hance, he's a new great addition to the band and Michael's screaming is so intence and amazing now. I know they will make it out big but I'm disapointed in Tyler.
chrisherrera95 3 months ago
@omarmagana822 i actually dont know how much of that is true, because i saw him at warped tour throwing down hard to the word alive in mountain view. theres a video of it on you tube. its kinda funny haha.
ChocolateDinosaur001 2 months ago
btw i live like im on tour anyway.. and i'm looking for a band i scream and sing :3 i live on NJ. PM me if your interested in me ^.^
MrBananadude112892 3 months ago
FUCK OUR EGO!
MrBananadude112892 3 months ago
Believe it was a personal issue between the "rock 'n' roll" lifestyle and his religion. It was very obvious during Warped Tour.
the3fs814 3 months ago
i freakin' love hance alligood <3
z0mbiebarbie 3 months ago
He wanted Fame...Fuck his ego.
bigmacfaid 3 months ago
where was the hance alligood interview part...
MusicISLove1119 3 months ago
tyler sounded like a girl, he was a little bitch and hence makes them 10 times better, vengeance is the best song they've ever made period
IDyslexiaHave35 3 months ago
@IDyslexiaHave35 hance*
TrevorSchipsi 3 months ago 2
@IDyslexiaHave35 i agree
FeralHermida 3 months ago
@impactband1 he puts that to get more views. I doubt he's getting an interview with him anytime soon
PinkRawrDino 4 months ago
He probably felt like he din't belong there which was sad cause he sounded so right with them
Chanocksanchez 4 months ago
Pissed pissed pissed!!! -:| I hate the new singer (vengeance has some dank lyrics tho) but I miss Tyler!!
msdrchelsea 4 months ago
Jonny Craig is still on top with the voices, Tyler would probably be second. In my opinion of course.
Stevenbrandon55 4 months ago
Vengeance is the best fucking rock/screamo/hardcore song out there, i ove that song and i totally believe it was written towards tyler, i mean there is plenty of evidence in the lyrics, tyler carter's main quote was "never loose your flames" and in vengeance it says "you lost your flames" also at the end of the song Fame over demise says "you'll reap what you sow" and in vengeance it says "i told you that you'll reap what you sow but you wanted fame so fuck your ego" its pretty clear.
TXSao19 4 months ago
@TXSao19 Instead of saying rock/screamo/hardcore you can say Metalcore just to make things easier.
F1reantS 4 months ago
you cant really blame the guy! I'm a huge fan of hardcore music , ive been in bands but with a voice like his its alot eaiser to get big and popular with the type of music he's doing. but from listening to woe,is me new song there going to do just fine without him!
dproct92 4 months ago
lol this video got funnier and funnier. "if ur a fatass like me. ur gonna go eat the whole fuckin cake by yourself"
MattArgyelanDrums 4 months ago
umm are you not forgetting that Tyler pretty much got Woe to where they are now. sure, Hance is good but he'll never be Tyler. there are reasons behind Tyler leaving. we dont know the full story of it all. was it right for the band to attack Tyler through their music, of course not. but he'll get them back. and they'll see that they're wrong. completely.
singing1me2to3sleep 4 months ago
crap to deal with. As you can see with Side to Side, Tyler Carter is singing about the raw beauty of booty-butt naked on the table sex. No deep message, no stinging wounds, just making love. It's not so complex, but it's real and stress-free. I bet that was a contributing factor to him leaving. He wanted to sing without expressing all of that hurt (even if it was his hurt).
BlackXSunlight 4 months ago
magika11 has a point... ;)
Anyway, there may have been conflicts about the message and theme of the band. Notice the overall theme of Number[s] is a destructive father/son relationship; Hell even the album cover shows Gepetto and Pinocchio... Or Frankenstein and his monster (who knows). Whoever is the core writer behind these lyrics was dumping a lot of heat from either a symbiotic or an abusive relationship with his father, and unless your bandmates can relate, that's a lot of pressure and cr
BlackXSunlight 4 months ago
Sexy? How can I put this... I would hit it soooo hard!!! You are 50 kinds of fuck yeah!!! I want your body hottie!!!
magika11 4 months ago in playlist BryanStars2 News
This video was absolutely pointless
23thesecondcoming23 4 months ago
WOE IS ME IS STILL GONNA BE AMAZING!!!! The band was Woe Is Me NOT Woe Is Tyler. Austin (WIM Drummer) Said they arent changing their style and #Vengeance is a taste of what they are gonna be releasing in the future! Best of luck to Tyler but Woe Is Me is gonna be better
igotcha77 4 months ago
The difference between Tyler and Hance is that Tyler gave the pop high pitch feel which made woe is me special Hance gives them the more metal-core sound that I think they were originally going for and it also has a special feel to it excited for last Friday night and new woe is
haloh8r 4 months ago
I go off of facts straight from the band. Tyler left cause he wanted to be solo he was having an issue it might have been a leadership one with austin it might not have. Woe is me wrote vengeance to get back at tyler for the way he left them not because he did. Woe is me didn't know till an hour before it was press released and it was thru a 3rd party email. He never told anyone he planned to leave but some had suspicions. Hance is a damn good singer and so is Tyler.
haloh8r 4 months ago
Post-hardcore man... it's called post-hardcore. And I don't really think Tyler is special. However, I think Hance is. Tyler has the avrage post-hardcore voice, high pitched and stuff. Hance has an voice that drives on power, not on high notes like every other post-hardcore band around.
Siimon204 4 months ago
I'm not shocked, Tyler is hella pop-ee.
YugiohHeadQuarterz 4 months ago
Is that even a question? This video was a waste, it is 100 percent obvious that Vengeance was written about Tyler considering they quote his old lyrics in the song and say things like "you wanted fame" and "your fending for the spotlight" etc.
22jermz 4 months ago
I think Tyler and Austin kind of went against each other, I love vengeance, and Hance is really good with studio magic, I've seen live videos of him though, it was kind of sad.
ColeFleming 4 months ago
Listen to Fame>Demise, then listen to Vengeance. The songs have the EXACT same format. Thats why it was written so quickly. Vengeance is their best song ever; but they had some wild writers block. And yes i think its about Tyler/
hix49ownsu 4 months ago
i cry every night knowing hes not in the band anymore :(((
guitarpyrolemonade 4 months ago
I was heartbroken..</3
sammismiles143 4 months ago
He wanted fame and money. Simple as that. Honestly you can find someone with the same voice anywhere, so you all need to stop riding the kids shaft. His new music is terrible, but of course that is just my opinion. Why listen to his solo music when I can listen to someone better, like Justin Timberlake or Usher? His pop sounds amatuer in my opinion. I think he made a mistake by selling out too quickly. Now it seems as though he will lose more than he will gain. Serves him right.
WoeAttackOfTheMice 4 months ago 54
@WoeAttackOfTheMice his solo music isnt new he was doing it all through the time he was with woe and honestly money and fame is pretty much the only reason people do anything
jumpman23508 4 months ago
@WoeAttackOfTheMice You're right. I love tylers side to side and vengeance but I think another reason he left is because he and austin never really got along. I know in a band you get tired of each other at times but He and austin it was constant, That probably led him to a ..."give me another reason to leave" type thing. But, oh well....both the band and tyler are doing well for themselves
WoeIsIsaac 4 months ago
@WoeAttackOfTheMice ^^^THISS
Discrimin4te 3 months ago
@WoeAttackOfTheMice sweet name btw :P
ABRisthestandard 3 months ago
@WoeAttackOfTheMice He dont wanted fame or money ! If he would he would stay there...you think woe is me was small? All he wanted is to make the music he loves, RnB. And to be honest he has a good voice that for. Dont hate on him because ppl talk shit about him
ichkannnix16 3 months ago
@WoeAttackOfTheMice couldn't agree more, my sister likes pop and when she heard his new stuff she was like: this is terrible! and she actually liked him when he was in woe is me, even though she doesn't even like metal lol. but it was good music and anyone could tell.. this is not the best decision he made and I'm sure he'll realize this
Discrimin4te 3 months ago
@WoeAttackOfTheMice tylers voice is one of a kind, I've never heard his voice anywhere before, so if you are so confident in your statement then where are these singers?
heyamalia 2 months ago
Same reason Anthony Green left.
xCravenblood 4 months ago
Lol, vengeance is probably the most direct attack at a former band member that I have ever seen. Just look at the lyrics. The lyrics would confirm Bryan's theory. The lyrics talk about fiending for spotlight, fucking people over, and ultimately how WIM is gonna leave a bigger impact on the world "without the likes" of Tyler Carter.
dastallionduck 4 months ago 31
@dastallionduck Same shit i said haha "you lost your flame" damn tyler :/
xCravenblood 4 months ago
@dastallionduck Uh no, they even said themselves that it's a continuation of Fame Over Demise. It has nothing to do with Tyler and they said their on good terms with him. Get your facts straight.
tokashima 3 months ago in playlist More videos from BryanStars2
@tokashima that's what i thought at first, but tyler said himself that he wrote a small part of the lyrics and the rest was towards him. he could be just being a little girl though...
eahs07 3 months ago
Bryan! Interview Bring me the Horizon!
LiV3rWurSt 4 months ago 2
Bryan you do look damn sexy and thats the truth. ;)
Taylorjade54 4 months ago
#Vengeance is an amazing song
anqrew 4 months ago
heard tyler left because he didn't feel the passion or something anymore. fair enough, he's turned into a wannabe justin timberlake anyway. woe is me are better off without him, hance has a really strong rocky voice, suits the band more than tyler did.
tyler's a great singer, just don't think he suited this band.
JAMESYowns 4 months ago
yall are all fucking stupid!! this is his cousin and i could give a fuck who doesnt believe me! if yoh think for one second that tyler left for any reason other than he was tired of the drinking and being pressured with drugs all the tim yall are retarded! i was there and they all criticized him when he wouldnt and he was tired of it! i was too when they asked me! so ive seen it all first hand and believe it or not! he was gonna quit weather or not he got another record deal!
SuperNewton5 4 months ago
Okay. Believe it or not, I know Tyler and the rest of the boys personally. And I know the real reason he left.
Redneck5128 4 months ago
Carter has a nice voice..But woe is me chorus r boring when carter is around..Sounds the same to me(or im the only one) besides our number(s)..Till Hance debut on woe is me..Their new song vengeance has a kickass chorus plus hance voice is kinda nice to me..I dont mind if hance is their permanent singer..
Sam132161 4 months ago
Isn't uphill his first solo song? And Tyler's just following his passion he said from the start he's inspired by r&b so not like a surprise he left I was expecting from the start he was gonna leave sucks but oh well his life to live
xyrenx 4 months ago
i think he left cause his heart wasn't into the music enough. It's hard to tour if you don't truly love what you're singing.
ashbuchanan11 4 months ago
Bryan Stars is incredibly sexy. Your argument is invalid.
MsAbracadabraHolmes 4 months ago
Touring SUCKS!
Bryan, that's not TRUE!
Loomisjunior14 4 months ago
im glad he left! there so so so so so much better now. not as gay. he left cause hes a greedy ass
Beejdrumminbeastly 4 months ago
So what it REALLY boils down to, is he had a huge ego and he was selfish and wanted money, and he was a pussy because he couldn't handle the tour life.
asdfghjkl4099 4 months ago 3
Why must everyone bitch about Tyler leaving woe is me? Neither of the two artists are ( even though vengeance seems like its towards him ) so if they're over it , why can't the "fans" be too? Both artists are amazing and people need to realize that changes like this happen all the time, that's the music industry.
sasukeholly77 4 months ago
with every band that loses a singer like etf n chidios bands change for better or for worse woe is me as a bwith tyler to me made them very unqiue and fresh to have a different type of singer in that kind of music as for the new singer he sounds good u cant truely judge a new singer until the they release a new album that works with the new singers voice/band
Thescreamsable 4 months ago
Tyler Carter did music a favor. Woe, is me is honestly ALOT better now without him. they going to make it big someday
SPEDproductions 4 months ago
i was never for tyler leaving but hance fits woe is me better. forreal
Element115fl 4 months ago
Bryan...you always make my day 8375309754967496737586758573975 times better!! :D
iloveandybvb 4 months ago
hance is great, but i think tyler's voice was more unique. but i really like hance in woe, is me, he's really talented. there is no doubt that vengeance was about tyler, just look at the lyrics. i still love them, with or without tyler. tyler's new music is great too c: [s] army for life <3
BLUE SHIRTS FTW. damnn bryan. <3 sexy shit right there :o
vivirox108 4 months ago
touring would be awesome :)
MrBmthiscool 4 months ago
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Vegeance is about Tyler. If you look up te lyrics, they're angry, they're definitely towards one person, and the thing I noticed the most was that they're spitting his lyrics back at him.
ImxaxvampirexHISS 4 months ago
@ImxaxvampirexHISS i agree
MrBmthiscool 4 months ago
Tyler was probably tired of writing music having to split parts with the other vocalist. The transitions between the two were limited, and Tyler knew he could be more diverse by himself. Watch their live performances and you'll see that Tyler is always ready to be a star onstage but has to back off because of transitioning all the time.
FregginAlec 4 months ago
@Adtrtyler69 haha sorry but as for Tylers style of singing hance will prolly never be that good, hance is a talented singer but will never sound nor write what Tyler brought to Woe Is Me. Tyler brought originality to that band and Hance kinda just makes them sound like every other hardcore band. Basically everyones basing his talent off of one song that no ones ever even heard live lmao but Tyler on the other hand brought us Number[s] and many amazing vocal performances and acoustic sessions..
polarbear1011 4 months ago
@polarbear1011 Tyler seemed to only have one style when singing. Delinquents was awesome but then all of a sudden every song sounded the same and it got boring. Tyler is the reason why I gave up on woe is me and stopped listening. Hance in tgif and vengeance made the songs not boring and not the same. Even jonny craig sounds different in DGD and Emarosa. Tyler is good don't get me wrong but he wasn't good for woe is me.
leopard1192 2 months ago
Sadly, you have to be a retard to "think" vengeance is about tyler. Its a direct fuck you to him, everrry lyric relates to him, the biggest "you lost your flames in the darkest of nights" because tyler ALWAYS says "never lose your flames" either way. Hance >>> Tyler x5000
Adtrtyler69 4 months ago
Dood tour would be awesome
elephantesnumbrellas 4 months ago
>.> <.< i think bryan looks freaken adorable w/ his glasses on XD
iCrazyObsession 4 months ago
LOL! 5:40 fuckin creeper smile! haha <3 Still love Bryan haha
rilotox 4 months ago
Hance Allibetterthantyler
lolmasn69 4 months ago
He left because relationships between him and the band were dying, and when he could have been doing things for Woe, is me he left and would do stuff for the name Tyler Carter, he also did not like the scene that he was in, he was always more in to the solo r&b side, but he left in a bad way. And the new singer is great, he is way more dedicated.
ammjls 4 months ago
I thought the same thing with him like going solo. If you can make money & have it all to yourself, or split it, come on you obviously would want to make more money. It must be a huge guilt trip abandoning the band, but maybe they weren't getting along? Tyler is young and will go places with his voice, why not give it a shot? He only has one life, and I'm NOT surprised he left, I know he'll probably get famous. The only thing stopping him is the hipsters that want to keep him to their ears only.
ChelleyFish 4 months ago
I think these segments should be called "Brian Stars discusses shit."
ChelleyFish 4 months ago
dude you're so late,he left like in August
JrElsewhere 4 months ago
@JrElsewhere He left last month, lol
Taqqieto 4 months ago
Hey. I love you. That's all. <3
emocupcakegirl 4 months ago
im kinda glad tyler left. ever since i have been listening to them, i KNEW that tyler was going to leave the band to do his own thing and make more money (or as i like to call it, "selling out"). i loved tylers voice, but i hated his cockyness on stage. i think hance fits the band real nicely.
18abVFL 4 months ago
its his decision so everyone should just let it be. If he wasn't feeling it anymore it's a good thing he left the band. It would show at concerts and through the music that he was unhappy. I love his new song side to side soooo all the haters can hop off.
LedgerLoVeR01 4 months ago
but eventualy when u eat all the cake u get sick and u throw up of disgution over what u just did
okTH3nMaN 4 months ago
They're gonna be 110% better with Hance than with Tyler.
darkus714 4 months ago