I think the reason some don't understand why one would smoke or drink alcohol yet try to eat healthy. It seems contradictory, but you seem to be vegan to "protect animals" rather then just the health issues. Your prerogative, but that is where you "seem" to be hypocritical at least to others. People become vegans for different reasons, and don't think of the other reasons. Simple misunderstanding.
Hello.....I have been a vegetarian for the past 4 months and I find I feel so much healthier and lighter than I have all my life. My skin has cleared and my weight has dropped, not to mention my chloresterol levels. There is no doubt that a meatless diet is much healthier for humans. I am so proud of my new lifestyle so much so I am now doing a course on diet and nutrition, just cant get enough informtion on healthy diets. Go veggies eh? Peace
I've been a vegetarian for 4 years and a vegan for about 4 months. I do think it is pretty hard to be vegan because there's either milk or eggs in pretty much everything you buy in the store... Which is why everything I ate today was vegan except for the pierogies that had eggs in them. So I consider myself 90% vegan, but yeah... I wouldn't say veganism is easy.
FELLOW VEGANS: remember, just b/c we made the effort to learn about veganism, the Big Picture + other issues it affects --i.e. why we went vegan-- doesn't mean we gotta waste the rest of our lives explaining it 2 every YT mental-age-of-a-5-year-old dumbf#ck with a stupid question!! What, now that i'm vegan i gotta make every meat-eating moron like me?? -- FUKK THAT! If they refuse 2 see that eating meat is suicide, I'd sooner say "THEN DiE, MEATERFUKKER!!!" + let them die of ROT-GUT...
is it true vegans "never get sick", never smell, their diabetes and MS symptoms go almost invisible.
and that theya re born with more empathy than anyone, and that the old farmer in the traditional nation who grows birds for food is no good than the psycopath who kills babies for fun?
and that all animals have the same ability as humans, that a coral can love just like a human can?
What annoys me is the propaganda that Vegan is the only healthy way to eat, when it isn't even the healthiest. Compared to over eating meat, sure it is healthier, but compared to a properly balanced diet it is less healthy.
@rosepetal108 Vegan is a properly balanced died and is not at the same time - depends on what the PERSON eats and how much of it they do.
Facts: humans need protein, carbs, fat, vitamins. fact: you can get them vegetables easily.
People who know how to eat, eat a balanced diet. You're just misinformed that if they don't eat certain type of foods, they can't find the nutrients in other type of foods. Read. I wasn't influenced by anyone, I stopped eating meat cuz I read and got informed.
@kameh Maybe you didn't read far enough? The healthiest diet is a balanced mostly veggie diet that includes small amounts of dairy meat (fish) and cheese.
Can you get a fairly well balanced veggie only diet? Sure. It can be done but it is not natural for your body.
People get all emotional about veganism. Fine that is your choice. But don't fool yourself. Some things like fish oils and foods like yogurt are extremely beneficial in moderation.
It is not "easy" to properly balance a vegan diet.
@rosepetal108 Fish oils are easily found in wallnuts. including vitamin A and E. Also yoghurt is beneficial because?.... Also, cheese has quite a lot of bacteria that is not healthy for you :) It has some which are good, no doubt, but it comes with a mixture.
It is easy to properly balance a vegan diet once you know what you need to go after.
You may think it's not natural cuz we all grew up with the idea of 'meat, eggs, fish, cow milk'. Try it, please, and assess it for yourself. I did.
ummm NOT.... But if you found some way of catching walnut fish, please share the technique.
Yogurt and various natural cheeses contain flora needed for good health...ie... acidophilus and others. Although goat and sheep is better than bovine for health.
"not natural cuz we all grew up with the idea of 'meat, eggs, fish, cow milk"
No, I think is is not natural because our bodies are physiologically adapted to be omnivores.
@rosepetal108 our bodies aren't adapted to be omnivores in the way that you're thinking we are. It sounds as though you're saying someone who did not eat meat would be a more unnatural diet than someone who did. Our diet is better thought of as an opportunistic diet - like a pig's. We have very generalized digestive systems and can digest practically anything we can get down our throats. Eating no meat is as unnatural as eating no bananas.
@rosepetal108 Although Kameh's wording was off... and rather funny, what he was trying to say is correct. The important fatty acids fish are notable for (Omega-3 & to a lesser extent Omega-6) are in non-fish sources. Omega-3 is actually about 10-times as dense in a given amount of walnuts compared to the same amount of tuna.
@rosepetal108 in fact, the only micro-nutrient that is difficult to get on a vegan diet is B-12... it is available in some plant sources, but *very* few. Today, it is easy to insure that you have enough b-12 on a vegan diet with a simple supplement... although throughout history there have been plenty of vegan populations which have lived fine without them. A vegan diet doesn't prevent someone from having a balanced diet, though I agree with you, it is more difficult.
@StevenBee2 Not completely true, though close. There is no true proven source of human bioactive B12 from a vegetable source, although there are some cultured vegetable products where the bacteria culture supplies B12 and trace amounts of B12 can be found in the dirt on unwashed root veggies and mushrooms grown in cow manure. Not very appetizing though.
Also the omega 3's and 6's found in some nuts etc are not quite as beneficial, complete or human bioactive as a fish/animal source.
@rosepetal108 I'm not a vegan myself but I've never bought this argument. It just seems another weak argument after the "vegans don't get enough protein" falls through. Humans only need trace amounts of B12 in the first place, the body recycles most of what it uses, and bacteria in our mouths, upper & lower intestines of our own bodies produce it... plus the observational fact that huge populations have been vegan throughout history and B12 deficiencies have not been pandemic among those people.
@StevenBee2 See that is the problem. SOME human intestinal and digestive tract bacterias do produce B12 however it is not human bioactive. There is no greater proof that humans were not designed to be pure vegan than this fact.
Instead what you find is that cultures that became mostly vegetarian developed cultured products that supplied their vitamins. A great example is tempeh. The fungus Rhizopus oligosporus doesn't produce B12 but the tempeh made in Veggie areas has a bacteria that does.
@StevenBee2 agreed. However it is dangerous info. Because Western Vegans hear a rumor that tempeh has B12, but Western tempeh doesn't. They also hear that brewers yeast produces B12, but it doesn't. It is a bacterial "contaminant" that produces B12 in both those cases. Products made in the West use "pure" yeast or fungus to produce those products. There are many other similar examples.
Omega 3's are a similar thing. Vegetable sources are not complete or balanced.
@rosepetal108 Given the human body's remarkable ability to adapt, I would suspect that individuals who spend most or all of their lives vegan, or (especially) in populations who have this diet, their bodies would step up the recycling of B12 from 70-80% to a higher amount, and the bacteria that produce B12 in the body would be allowed a more hospitable place, hence resulting in more of them.... of course I'm completely speaking out of my ass on this... just random speculation.
Drum isn't tested on animals? I've been searching for everywhere to find brands that don't test on animals, until i'm able to quit fully. It's the only thing in my diet that isn't vegan now. I really would like to know (:. Thanks and cool vid, i agree (:. It's fucking annoying what non-vegans can say to you, but hey we weren't born vegan and neither were they, we have to remember that they live in that different frame of mind (:. Peace! X
I love being a vegetarian! I hate when people say I can't do it...so annoying. Thats like their first response. I think that people who eat meat are so selfish becuase eating meat is harmful for the earth, for your body, and of course for the animals. You know what annoys me being vegetarian. Meat eaters....
I became vegan a few months back and still enjoy a bit of weed now and again, not to mention magic mushrooms when I'm in a splendid mood :D
my 2 cents: I'm annoyed by Vegan elitists , the snide and snobby kind that judge everyone's mistakes or if some one is still a vegetarian. shit pisses me off, man.
This is my first time watching your video, and unfortunately I have to disagree with you about it being hard. I have friends who are vegans and they crave meat from time to time (say it is hard to say no) because we live in Texas and bbq, steaks, ribs and seafood is all around us. I could never be a vegan because of this and my lack of determination. I have watched documentaries about the food process in a negative way by lust for meat to too strong.
Im glad you said to remember that you yourself (vegans) wernt always vegan. I mean, if you want to go vegan, good for you, eat what you want, just let others eat what they want to. Not everyone wants to be or can be vegan. Love that you smoke.
Hey! Ms Vegan this is your reality check!! People are always going to eat meat and kill animals for food. Unless you plan on getting a group of vegans together with a plan for universal mind control then you are wasting your time worrying about what other people eat and how animals die.
@fellowza sure you narrow minded bicth. they can be as weird as they choose to be. but when they broadcast their beliefs on u tube, trying to impose, being vague and corny then they only set themselves up for feed back. that is why there is a comment section on u tube right? so people HAVE THE RIGHT!! to give their feed back, unless the comment section is disabled ok. feed back does not have to always be in agreement ok. to call feed back harassing on u tube is very silly so wake up
People can be influenced with awareness. Most of us start as omnivores, tehn become vegetarian, then vegan as we learn. For example, I used to see eggs as not necessarily cruel. Then I learned how they throw all of the live male hatchlings into trash bags for suffocation, debeak the hens, and make them live in their own filth. It is no wonder that a billion eggs are diseased and are being recalled.
@publishedcontent ur mistaken....awareness when spread people accept facts, people who have brains and have emotions they understand. People like you are bored of your life and feels nothing to do to bring change in world.....and even finger others who are trying bring change....
@AkkiSantana Uh... So who is walking around with no brain inside their head and no sense of emotion you idiot?? 2nd of all how are you such the expert on my entire life after reading one of my comments? The 3rd thing is that there is nothing new about being a vegan or a vegetarian? They have been around before your grandfather was born ok... This is only a video of some bored/boring quote "vegan" person with no personality trying to talk down and criticize other people for eating meat. WTF!!?
@AkkiSantana and you need to understand that i dont give two shits about what you think. billions of people post comments on u tube. does that mean that non of them have lives idiot? your "get a life" comment is pointless ok. i am not a yes man. i do not have to agree with this hypocrite/vegan bicth that talks about being a vegan as if it is something great. people have the right to eat what they want. people have a right to their own opinion. and people debate and disagree all the time.
Jesus Christ must of hated Lambs becuz he ate them & his dad was never mad!!!
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Why smoke and be a vegan??? to be healthier?? You hate rat poison Im sure!!! so why smoke some of the ingredients???
Oh yeah im not a christian but Im sure thier are no vegan chrstians!!
@Thet3 If you're not christian and you're sure there are no vegan christian, then why would you bring Jesus up? Also, if you're smoking unless you are putting the cigarette out on a rat I highly doubt it is affecting an animal in anyway,
Jesus Christ must of hated Lambs becuz he ate them & his dad was never mad!!!
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Why smoke and be a vegan??? to be healthier?? You hate rat poison Im sure!!! so why smoke some of the ingredients???
Oh yeah im not a christian but Im sure thier are no vegan chrstians!!
@Starwins It's not just the fact that they die, it's the fact that they are bred and live lives of absolute HELL in factory farms which is where practically ALL dairy, meat, and eggs come from.
to givenwillingly: i would defend those that say dont smoke because millions of mice, rabbits, monkeys, apes, birds, are turtured, genetically modified, made to suffer miserably in labs by 'well' meaning researchers trying to find cures to human disease caused by not preventing smoke inhalation, alcohol consumption, and other unnecessary food pollution. humans sorround themselves with pollution then find cures. pathetic.
for fucks sake, everyone, she gently moved a fly from her face geez, everyone who is like omni or vegetarian, just feeds of the fact that she moved a fly from her face in a rant, lol its annoying. im like a extreme vegan, like the veganic witch, i also come from australia too :D and i will move flys from my face too, good vvork veganic witch,
the story behind some vegans hating smokers you're refering to is probably that of Straight Edge Vegans. Since vegan lifestyle was later included into Straight Edge ethics (or rather some of them) these things do kinda relate. The logic is that being addicted to something your mind is not clear to strive for betterment of life in general. I'm a straight edge vegan but being vegan is MUCH more important to me... I might smoke or drink again but NEVER would i eat meat.
leave the fly alone! It's just a peaceful little fella :D
anyway, I remember saying I won't be vegan, being vegetarian is more than enough, being vegan is just exaggerating and bla bla bla...
well but vegan catering at concerts kinda got me hooked and now i love it.
I still don't like vegans who say vegetarians are half-assed. Being vegetarian is really the first step of being aware of what you eat and how it affects living beings. I even think going vegan directly might be a bit too fast.
Your accent is so cute! Could you give me some cigarette brands that don't test on animals, that I won't need to roll myself? I'm a vegan and I smoke. Hell, I'd rather smoke until I'm 80 and just potentially hurt myself , then take even one bite out of a cheese burger ever again. What kind of egg rolls were you eating in the other part of this video? I love egg rolls. YUM. Vegan food is so delicious!
I don't think there is any unfortunately, I only smoke using 'raw' cigerette papers becuase the gummy stuff on others usually has gletin in them, and real pre rolled cigerettes usually contain animal fats. I too am looking though for more information
The gummy stuff? Hm, you must be talking about rolling papers. Regular cigs have filters, but they're not gummy. Maybe one of us should ask on yahoo. Maybe someone on their would know. UGH. It sucks, man. If you find out though, definitely let me know!
Yes, but they need to get stuck together in the factory. And the reason they continue to burn (unlike a roll up that goes out if you stop smoking it) is that they contain animal fats.
Vegans just don't eat animal products: everything else is fair game, including hunting, blood sports, whatever. You won't find many hunting vegans, but you could theoretically . If someone calls themselves "an ethical" or "compassionate" vegan, then they won't do the hunting and bear-baiting thing.
lb8068, your hypothetical does not justify the millions of inhumane slaughters that occur every day in factory farms. It does not apply to our current economic system at all...
There could be life.. mushrooms... those life forms they find on asteroids.. not exactly an abundance, but technically there could be life without "vegetation". But I take the point.
I think your being unfair, to be totally honest. Coming from a vegatarian for over a year! It is hard. People are raised on eating meat and dairy products-it's just how society is. And besides, your family isn't going to go out of their way to buy YOU vegan-based products. Why should they? You made the choice. You starve. It's hard to brake off from habits and beliefs you GREW UP ON. So, I think you should be a LITTLE more considerate in your videos. Your coming off as a jerk. I won't lie.
Look at this individual....There is obviously something wrong with her to begin with...I am begginning to see a patern where Vegans are concerned...The majority appear to be mentally challenged, hypocritical, pale, and sickly individuals...Look in her eyes...see that glazed look?...Like a drug addict or somebody about to drink the coolaide for their religious beliefs....Deeply disturbed...Be forwarned before indoctrinating yourself into this cult.
I don't think veganism is pointless just a way to eat a mostly plant based diet. I am sure there are those who eat a mostly meat based diet. I respect everyone's eating choices, it's up to them what they put in their body not me. Being vegan has allowed me to experiment more with food and look after my nutrition which I have never done before. :)
a plant base diet is best there many level of veganism eat meat and living in USA where there high level sicken Msg food coloring so on it killing our healthy the drug company got you american fooled that junk foods is pure hapyness very sad
vegan is stupid, just do what u wanna do.. why do u need to blog on a life style, u think ur all morally right and shit, but what do u if ur homeless, u cant be a vegan.. u'd be dead.. u got it good if u got the time to worry about vegan
I understand your anger babe, it is annoying when people say that to me to. im vegan but just becausei have never been able to swallow meat it makes me sick i dont no much about what animals go through but i know its a rough deal sometimes, i understand ur stress ur not crazy xxx
Haha! AND TO TOP IT OFF YOU SMOKE!? I can't take anyone seriously that smokes. You're all about animal rights, but you buy into phillip morris' cigarette empire, and don't even treat your own body with respect? Haha, this is like a fashion statement, being vegan, so that you can flaunt that you are vegan and and be all, "I'm Vegan, ohhh, look at me, watch out!" I wonder how much you'll think about animal rights when animal tested drugs are keeping you alive once you get emphysema.
It's seems some vegans are "vegan" to oppose certain manufacturing processes and morals toward animal abuse, which isn't per se, "a healthy living life-plan". While others are vegan on edge for health/spirituality, are aware of animal cruelity but take it as a "woe of man" and live to greater experience life on a more inner personal level, the latter more outward motivated.
If anyone should use a drug or drugs tested on animals that does not mean the person is benefiting from it because the human clinical trials are why people benefit from drugs. And then we can also thank animal testing for the deaths and malformations of other humans.
And you can't respect smokers? You americans are the most anti free of all the people out there. Us liberals like the ability to be able to choose what we do, as long as we don't impose on others freedom. I guess you just can't handle the fact that people can decide what they want to do for themselves. Hmm. Many of you american citizens views reflect your countries foreign policy.
see, you wimped out! And Liberal is apparantly a country now? You gotta take it to the next level if you want to claim to be a vegan, otherwise you're a lame idealist.
Liberal countries. I don't need to whimp out. I don't use animal products. I am doing the best I can for a good cause, which is better than what you non vegans are doing. And I mean liberal countries.
I'm all about people deciding what they want for themselves, btw, I love it. Vegans mostly have this idea that they are out there for the greater good, and usually they are all up in my face about it. Like I bring in a cake and the stupid vegan is all, man, you killed cows with that cake. And I'm thinking, the fucking cow needed to be milked either way, dipshit, they're unnatural, human bred animals. Or like not eating eggs, even from free range animals. The shits lay eggs either way.
And how about india. Right, they got a million bazillion people there, in squalor. They've got miserable cows all over the place, but they can't slaughter the animals. So now not only are the cows suffering, but those retards are letting a major source of nutrients die right in front of them. I wish veganism was a diet, rather than a fucking idealogy. I agree with many of the health benefits, no qualms. But wtf, dude, we're all killing animals or thier habitats, so get over the ideology part!
And it's the vegans in YOUR face? You know how many vids there are for vegan recipes or for vegitarians, not doing anything to meat eaters, and the comments page is spammed with stupid meat eaters saying vegans are pussies fags etc. Maybe you're just so bias that you are blind to the fact that you are in our faces too.
How can you say I have got nothing? I just explained why milk is wrong, and you couldn't even come back to that. Infact most of the points i've made you have avoided. dumbass.
The only point you've made is about cows and chickens, both of which are NOT wild animals. Cows have been bred by humans to live in captivity. Some give milk whether they've given birth or not. Most breeds of chickens would be extinct immediately if let free in the wild. What are you going to do, abandon them?
Well yeah that#s the problem with milk. It's not fair that cows are bred, free range or not, to have calves which are killed as soon as they are born so humans take the milk. Free range hens aren't as free range as you'd think either.
So you are basicly expecting me to think that all free range eggs come from places like your neighbours backyard?! That's retarded. YOU'VE got nothing.
The fact that you are against eating eggs, even if they are from my neighbors back yard is ridiculous. You're an absolutist, and that's pathetic. Maybe that's my problem. Vegans are like facists. Absolutist. It's this or nothing. That's what makes you suck so bad.
When did I say I wouldn't eat eggs from your neighbours backyard?! You are ridiculous. Every arguement "of mine" that you respond to AREN'T my arguements. They are just points you make up because you can't break my arguements.
No vegan would eat eggs. I don't get what your problem is dude. You're like the last person on earth who should be defending veganism, because you have no idea what you're talking about. I know that a lot of people won't agree with what I've said, but I make arguements that should get people thinking. You've contributed nothing valuable at all to this arguement. You haven't built a case yet to be broken. Real vegans have made cases, and that's what I am arguing against. Stop trying dude.
HOW haven't I made an arguement. I have made an arguement, that it is wrong to exploit animals. Maybe you try arguing in my language then we will see who gets wtf pwned. I have made a well written arguement for my second language idiot. Are you trying to say, that it is easy to find eggs layed by hens from your people like your neighbours back yards?! NO THAT'S RETARDED. If it really was that nice, then I would eat eggs. But then again I was never fond of eggs anyway.
Its clear from your creepy emails that you don't even know the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian. You sent me a list of award winning, egg fed vegetarians who won medals. Vegans would not eat eggs, and you claim to be a vegan. Therefore even commenting to the contrary, that you would eat eggs, makes no sense. you're actually agreeing with my argument if you say that it's ok to eat eggs, which you just have. You have agreed with me, I don't get it.
Actually you are too retarded to understand your own arguement. You argue "it's ok to eat ALL eggs" I argue no it isn't, only if you can be completely sure that the hens you get them from are completely content. Therefore it is much more conveniant for people with a conscience like ME to avoid all animal products.
You're completely crazy. I was arguing about the eggs in someone's back yard. I already understand the vegan's standpoint, so of course eating eggs from some factory mill isn't part of my argument. You just said you'd eat eggs so your arguement doesn't make sense. You arent avoiding all animal products. Maybe your language skills are losing something in translation. About as much sense as being a lithuanian nazi, which you claim to be.
You are the most retarded person I have ever come across. Where have I ever claimed to be a nazi?! I HATE national socialism, I HATE fascism, and can you not see the big fucking "I SUPPORT ISRAEL" Sign on my profile. INVALID! Why would a NAZI have a picture of lenin on their profile? why would a NAZI support the biggest jewish state? RETARD! RETARD! RETARD!!!!!. Btw, I said in an IDEAL world I'd eat eggs, but this isn't an ideal world. Besides vegan shouldn't be a definite label
a lithuanian communist is pretty mixed up too, considering the crappy state russian rule left the baltic countries in.. i guess that means youre of russian heritage?
also, i have to correct you. the definition of a vegan is someone who seeks to exclude all animal food and dairy products from their diet, it is a definite label. words such as lacto vegetarianism and lacto-ovo vegetarianism exist to describe different types of diets.
and and btw, you're embarrassing me as an european.
You're a very angry spokesperson for veganism and jewish people. Lots of caps. and swears. I probably would vote you as the official representation of an angry, inarticulate, self-righteous vegan/jew. I commend you!
Actually I'm kind of glad you're stuck in lithuania, because you're a pretty scary/creepy dude. You sent me like 7 angry emails. I have no doubt you'd try to kill me.
Cigarettes are tested on animals. I suppose this could be a link.
RosElisabeth 4 days ago
@RosElisabeth people just asssume all companies use animal testing.
RosElisabeth 4 days ago
I think the reason some don't understand why one would smoke or drink alcohol yet try to eat healthy. It seems contradictory, but you seem to be vegan to "protect animals" rather then just the health issues. Your prerogative, but that is where you "seem" to be hypocritical at least to others. People become vegans for different reasons, and don't think of the other reasons. Simple misunderstanding.
applepiebetty 1 week ago
or you can be a normal person and eat normal
stuff.... dumb bitch
megadanielortiz 1 week ago
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I didn't know the alcohol part! I'm glad, I've been staying away from alcohol, my whole life.
starfaery 3 weeks ago
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starfaery 3 weeks ago
hahah, im reading these comments while eating chicken. suck on that fuckin nigga fools(:
yousuckballzsack 2 months ago
It is not hard...it is stupid.
SireniUltimatum 2 months ago
Hello.....I have been a vegetarian for the past 4 months and I find I feel so much healthier and lighter than I have all my life. My skin has cleared and my weight has dropped, not to mention my chloresterol levels. There is no doubt that a meatless diet is much healthier for humans. I am so proud of my new lifestyle so much so I am now doing a course on diet and nutrition, just cant get enough informtion on healthy diets. Go veggies eh? Peace
thephleblady 3 months ago
I've been a vegetarian for 4 years and a vegan for about 4 months. I do think it is pretty hard to be vegan because there's either milk or eggs in pretty much everything you buy in the store... Which is why everything I ate today was vegan except for the pierogies that had eggs in them. So I consider myself 90% vegan, but yeah... I wouldn't say veganism is easy.
phubans 4 months ago
Also barnivore . com when it comes to alcohol! Great resource!
DPCProductions 5 months ago
:) Good! I'm happy about this video.
DPCProductions 5 months ago
Im a vegetarian. I keep trying to be vegan but admit I do find it hard. Have a lot of admiration for you.
lucylu123100 5 months ago
I'm a vegan and I smoke too! :p
GreenAndBlackCA 6 months ago
Its not hard ...if you don't discover when you try that you are allergic to beans and grains.
givebirthathome 6 months ago
FELLOW VEGANS: remember, just b/c we made the effort to learn about veganism, the Big Picture + other issues it affects --i.e. why we went vegan-- doesn't mean we gotta waste the rest of our lives explaining it 2 every YT mental-age-of-a-5-year-old dumbf#ck with a stupid question!! What, now that i'm vegan i gotta make every meat-eating moron like me?? -- FUKK THAT! If they refuse 2 see that eating meat is suicide, I'd sooner say "THEN DiE, MEATERFUKKER!!!" + let them die of ROT-GUT...
JamesKaify 7 months ago
@JamesKaify That's an almost hilarious comment coming from someone touting how mature and knowledgeable they are.
What's the life expectancy of vegans vs. vegetarians vs. meat eaters?
daw162 1 month ago
is it true vegans "never get sick", never smell, their diabetes and MS symptoms go almost invisible.
and that theya re born with more empathy than anyone, and that the old farmer in the traditional nation who grows birds for food is no good than the psycopath who kills babies for fun?
and that all animals have the same ability as humans, that a coral can love just like a human can?
and that substance hunters can't feel love?
kuwaizair 8 months ago
"save a cow .. eat a Vegetarian"
MrMrgta4000 8 months ago
@MrMrgta4000 Save a cow and a vegetarian...eat some fruit and veg!
marcluc1988 7 months ago
animals are our freinds? Cough Grizly man Cough Cough.
CpsLock3 9 months ago
What annoys me is the propaganda that Vegan is the only healthy way to eat, when it isn't even the healthiest. Compared to over eating meat, sure it is healthier, but compared to a properly balanced diet it is less healthy.
rosepetal108 10 months ago
@rosepetal108 Vegan is a properly balanced died and is not at the same time - depends on what the PERSON eats and how much of it they do.
Facts: humans need protein, carbs, fat, vitamins. fact: you can get them vegetables easily.
People who know how to eat, eat a balanced diet. You're just misinformed that if they don't eat certain type of foods, they can't find the nutrients in other type of foods. Read. I wasn't influenced by anyone, I stopped eating meat cuz I read and got informed.
kameh 10 months ago
@kameh Maybe you didn't read far enough? The healthiest diet is a balanced mostly veggie diet that includes small amounts of dairy meat (fish) and cheese.
Can you get a fairly well balanced veggie only diet? Sure. It can be done but it is not natural for your body.
People get all emotional about veganism. Fine that is your choice. But don't fool yourself. Some things like fish oils and foods like yogurt are extremely beneficial in moderation.
It is not "easy" to properly balance a vegan diet.
rosepetal108 10 months ago
@rosepetal108 Fish oils are easily found in wallnuts. including vitamin A and E. Also yoghurt is beneficial because?.... Also, cheese has quite a lot of bacteria that is not healthy for you :) It has some which are good, no doubt, but it comes with a mixture.
It is easy to properly balance a vegan diet once you know what you need to go after.
You may think it's not natural cuz we all grew up with the idea of 'meat, eggs, fish, cow milk'. Try it, please, and assess it for yourself. I did.
kameh 10 months ago
@kameh "Fish oils are easily found in wallnuts"
ummm NOT.... But if you found some way of catching walnut fish, please share the technique.
Yogurt and various natural cheeses contain flora needed for good health...ie... acidophilus and others. Although goat and sheep is better than bovine for health.
"not natural cuz we all grew up with the idea of 'meat, eggs, fish, cow milk"
No, I think is is not natural because our bodies are physiologically adapted to be omnivores.
rosepetal108 10 months ago
@rosepetal108 our bodies aren't adapted to be omnivores in the way that you're thinking we are. It sounds as though you're saying someone who did not eat meat would be a more unnatural diet than someone who did. Our diet is better thought of as an opportunistic diet - like a pig's. We have very generalized digestive systems and can digest practically anything we can get down our throats. Eating no meat is as unnatural as eating no bananas.
StevenBee2 9 months ago
@rosepetal108 Although Kameh's wording was off... and rather funny, what he was trying to say is correct. The important fatty acids fish are notable for (Omega-3 & to a lesser extent Omega-6) are in non-fish sources. Omega-3 is actually about 10-times as dense in a given amount of walnuts compared to the same amount of tuna.
StevenBee2 9 months ago
@rosepetal108 in fact, the only micro-nutrient that is difficult to get on a vegan diet is B-12... it is available in some plant sources, but *very* few. Today, it is easy to insure that you have enough b-12 on a vegan diet with a simple supplement... although throughout history there have been plenty of vegan populations which have lived fine without them. A vegan diet doesn't prevent someone from having a balanced diet, though I agree with you, it is more difficult.
StevenBee2 9 months ago
@StevenBee2 Not completely true, though close. There is no true proven source of human bioactive B12 from a vegetable source, although there are some cultured vegetable products where the bacteria culture supplies B12 and trace amounts of B12 can be found in the dirt on unwashed root veggies and mushrooms grown in cow manure. Not very appetizing though.
Also the omega 3's and 6's found in some nuts etc are not quite as beneficial, complete or human bioactive as a fish/animal source.
rosepetal108 9 months ago
@rosepetal108 I don't think vegans have a problem with eating bacterial waste.
StevenBee2 9 months ago
@rosepetal108 I'm not a vegan myself but I've never bought this argument. It just seems another weak argument after the "vegans don't get enough protein" falls through. Humans only need trace amounts of B12 in the first place, the body recycles most of what it uses, and bacteria in our mouths, upper & lower intestines of our own bodies produce it... plus the observational fact that huge populations have been vegan throughout history and B12 deficiencies have not been pandemic among those people.
StevenBee2 9 months ago
@StevenBee2 See that is the problem. SOME human intestinal and digestive tract bacterias do produce B12 however it is not human bioactive. There is no greater proof that humans were not designed to be pure vegan than this fact.
Instead what you find is that cultures that became mostly vegetarian developed cultured products that supplied their vitamins. A great example is tempeh. The fungus Rhizopus oligosporus doesn't produce B12 but the tempeh made in Veggie areas has a bacteria that does.
rosepetal108 9 months ago
@rosepetal108 There you go then, there's your source. Answered your own question you did.
StevenBee2 9 months ago
@StevenBee2 agreed. However it is dangerous info. Because Western Vegans hear a rumor that tempeh has B12, but Western tempeh doesn't. They also hear that brewers yeast produces B12, but it doesn't. It is a bacterial "contaminant" that produces B12 in both those cases. Products made in the West use "pure" yeast or fungus to produce those products. There are many other similar examples.
Omega 3's are a similar thing. Vegetable sources are not complete or balanced.
rosepetal108 9 months ago
@rosepetal108 Given the human body's remarkable ability to adapt, I would suspect that individuals who spend most or all of their lives vegan, or (especially) in populations who have this diet, their bodies would step up the recycling of B12 from 70-80% to a higher amount, and the bacteria that produce B12 in the body would be allowed a more hospitable place, hence resulting in more of them.... of course I'm completely speaking out of my ass on this... just random speculation.
StevenBee2 9 months ago
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@StevenBee2 ===> "although throughout history there have been plenty of vegan populations which have lived fine without them."
Throughout history? The term "vegan" was coined in England in 1944. You mean since then?
rosepetal108 9 months ago
@rosepetal108 true dat homebooyy.
yousuckballzsack 2 months ago
Drum isn't tested on animals? I've been searching for everywhere to find brands that don't test on animals, until i'm able to quit fully. It's the only thing in my diet that isn't vegan now. I really would like to know (:. Thanks and cool vid, i agree (:. It's fucking annoying what non-vegans can say to you, but hey we weren't born vegan and neither were they, we have to remember that they live in that different frame of mind (:. Peace! X
HopeVJustice 10 months ago
I agree w/ everything u say. Since I went veg it's like I entered a new world, everything was clearer.
Gahuki44 10 months ago
Lol, I totally share your passion girl...Damn, people are so stupid & ignorant.
You're so right, your awesome! :0)
D, ALF!!! :0)
DavinaFaerie 10 months ago
meat<33333
loberg911 1 year ago
I love being a vegetarian! I hate when people say I can't do it...so annoying. Thats like their first response. I think that people who eat meat are so selfish becuase eating meat is harmful for the earth, for your body, and of course for the animals. You know what annoys me being vegetarian. Meat eaters....
fireout700 1 year ago
Cool beans, man.
I became vegan a few months back and still enjoy a bit of weed now and again, not to mention magic mushrooms when I'm in a splendid mood :D
my 2 cents: I'm annoyed by Vegan elitists , the snide and snobby kind that judge everyone's mistakes or if some one is still a vegetarian. shit pisses me off, man.
dethklok111 1 year ago 10
it's called vegan straight edge.
xXxBLINDxFAITHxXx 1 year ago
This is my first time watching your video, and unfortunately I have to disagree with you about it being hard. I have friends who are vegans and they crave meat from time to time (say it is hard to say no) because we live in Texas and bbq, steaks, ribs and seafood is all around us. I could never be a vegan because of this and my lack of determination. I have watched documentaries about the food process in a negative way by lust for meat to too strong.
Jesslsteele 1 year ago
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the fly was "inlove with you" because you probably smell like shit.
WalkedTheFloorXx 1 year ago
hellyeah:D
GO vegan smokers!!!!!!and GO vegan drinkers:)
lots of vegan love from holland
hannahtjeee 1 year ago
@hannahtjeee go vegan straight edge
because cigertte company test on animals so...
xXxBLINDxFAITHxXx 1 year ago
@xXxBLINDxFAITHxXx
not all of em and i drink vegan beer and HELLNOO i dnt go xxx!
hannahtjeee 1 year ago
we just give all the hate back that you given to us. some of those videos you people make realy make me loose my appetite.
and im not talking about those in witch you see annimals getting slaughtered. :)
TheAzathor 1 year ago
steak
JizzAAAAm 1 year ago
3:09 what a tone..........aahaha
AkkiSantana 1 year ago
she's ugly
queerp 1 year ago
@queerp kinda makes me not wanna be vegan... or maybe it's just cos she's british :P
queerp 1 year ago
@queerp Australian.
Cupit29 11 months ago
@queerp i think she is trying to explain something.......i think meat eaters are dumb.,, :|
AkkiSantana 1 year ago
Im glad you said to remember that you yourself (vegans) wernt always vegan. I mean, if you want to go vegan, good for you, eat what you want, just let others eat what they want to. Not everyone wants to be or can be vegan. Love that you smoke.
Morethanenough1 1 year ago
what is it you're eating. is it made with gluten? I want it if it isn't made with gluten (:
Glowb0t 1 year ago
the fly likes you because you stink, because you dont eat meat
AreTheseYourCarKeys 1 year ago
i'm not a vegan, but i see her point.
crunchey4 1 year ago 2
Hey! Ms Vegan this is your reality check!! People are always going to eat meat and kill animals for food. Unless you plan on getting a group of vegans together with a plan for universal mind control then you are wasting your time worrying about what other people eat and how animals die.
publishedcontent 1 year ago
@publishedcontent
ignorant bastard, are people not allowed to have their own beliefs without people like you harassing them?! pathetic.
fellowza 1 year ago
@fellowza sure you narrow minded bicth. they can be as weird as they choose to be. but when they broadcast their beliefs on u tube, trying to impose, being vague and corny then they only set themselves up for feed back. that is why there is a comment section on u tube right? so people HAVE THE RIGHT!! to give their feed back, unless the comment section is disabled ok. feed back does not have to always be in agreement ok. to call feed back harassing on u tube is very silly so wake up
publishedcontent 1 year ago
@publishedcontent
People can be influenced with awareness. Most of us start as omnivores, tehn become vegetarian, then vegan as we learn. For example, I used to see eggs as not necessarily cruel. Then I learned how they throw all of the live male hatchlings into trash bags for suffocation, debeak the hens, and make them live in their own filth. It is no wonder that a billion eggs are diseased and are being recalled.
BTW veganicwitch, you're cute!
cosenbaughful 1 year ago
@publishedcontent ur mistaken....awareness when spread people accept facts, people who have brains and have emotions they understand. People like you are bored of your life and feels nothing to do to bring change in world.....and even finger others who are trying bring change....
AkkiSantana 1 year ago
@AkkiSantana Uh... So who is walking around with no brain inside their head and no sense of emotion you idiot?? 2nd of all how are you such the expert on my entire life after reading one of my comments? The 3rd thing is that there is nothing new about being a vegan or a vegetarian? They have been around before your grandfather was born ok... This is only a video of some bored/boring quote "vegan" person with no personality trying to talk down and criticize other people for eating meat. WTF!!?
publishedcontent 1 year ago
@publishedcontent i told u what i think about u and what u think about others really doesn't matter coz after all u need to get some life....
AkkiSantana 1 year ago
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publishedcontent 1 year ago
@AkkiSantana and you need to understand that i dont give two shits about what you think. billions of people post comments on u tube. does that mean that non of them have lives idiot? your "get a life" comment is pointless ok. i am not a yes man. i do not have to agree with this hypocrite/vegan bicth that talks about being a vegan as if it is something great. people have the right to eat what they want. people have a right to their own opinion. and people debate and disagree all the time.
publishedcontent 1 year ago
@publishedcontent what ever..!!
AkkiSantana 1 year ago
u pagen.
callagator11 1 year ago
@spepper... each to their own :)
sexycazzy 1 year ago
Jesus Christ must of hated Lambs becuz he ate them & his dad was never mad!!!
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Why smoke and be a vegan??? to be healthier?? You hate rat poison Im sure!!! so why smoke some of the ingredients???
Oh yeah im not a christian but Im sure thier are no vegan chrstians!!
Thet3 1 year ago
@Thet3 If you're not christian and you're sure there are no vegan christian, then why would you bring Jesus up? Also, if you're smoking unless you are putting the cigarette out on a rat I highly doubt it is affecting an animal in anyway,
sarahp005 1 year ago
@sarahp005 Just saying her logic is save animals,kill self..
Thet3 1 year ago
Jesus Christ must of hated Lambs becuz he ate them & his dad was never mad!!!
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Why smoke and be a vegan??? to be healthier?? You hate rat poison Im sure!!! so why smoke some of the ingredients???
Oh yeah im not a christian but Im sure thier are no vegan chrstians!!
Thet3 1 year ago
@Thet3 I'm a vegan Christian.
OMG LYKE YOU WERE WRONG.
urbanburglary 1 year ago
Love you!!!!! :)
MrTreylynch 1 year ago
the only problem I have with smokers is when they smoke in public. I hate that shit
nick16watt 1 year ago
I love meat!
acheroncyc 1 year ago
Everything eventually dies, this animal on my plate died for my belly. I rarely eat meat, but most vegan drive cars, so its hypocritical.
Starwins 1 year ago
@Starwins It's not just the fact that they die, it's the fact that they are bred and live lives of absolute HELL in factory farms which is where practically ALL dairy, meat, and eggs come from.
TrevynPlantard 1 year ago
vegan=fags nuf said
TheMahyem 1 year ago
@TheMahyem That just makes you sound like an ignorant 12 year old.
TheCarmineEternity 1 year ago
@TheCarmineEternity mabye i am
TheMahyem 1 year ago
@TheMahyem Its funny that you said that. I am a fag, :)
MrTreylynch 1 year ago
@MrTreylynch good for you have fun in hell
TheMahyem 1 year ago
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ew god your australian!!! its bad enough your vegan, both mixed together your like the next fuckin hitler
metalfuk1 1 year ago
read Skinny Bitch by Rory Freedman and Kim Barnouin
sexycazzy 2 years ago
@sexycazzy that book is full of crap. Organic or not, crap is crap!
spepper 1 year ago
You what annoys me about vegans? Not the fact they are veggie only I will tell you that.
It is 90% of the reasoning that is behind it.
It is the fact that most vegans are following a popular fad.
Animals in a Temple Grandin designed slaughter house are happy all the way to the end and feel nothing during death.
You became vegan for extremists and un educated points of view which makes you a follower. I found a vegan that I respect and it is not you.
mythril4 2 years ago
Alcohol is rotten food and each cigarette you smoke takes 710 minutes of your life. Have fun dying an your young adult years!
eltonsfan 2 years ago
it's not a fly.. it's a spirit that you conjured during your invocation during the summer soltice
Ilikephish24 2 years ago
to givenwillingly: i would defend those that say dont smoke because millions of mice, rabbits, monkeys, apes, birds, are turtured, genetically modified, made to suffer miserably in labs by 'well' meaning researchers trying to find cures to human disease caused by not preventing smoke inhalation, alcohol consumption, and other unnecessary food pollution. humans sorround themselves with pollution then find cures. pathetic.
ieatbonobos 2 years ago
for fucks sake, everyone, she gently moved a fly from her face geez, everyone who is like omni or vegetarian, just feeds of the fact that she moved a fly from her face in a rant, lol its annoying. im like a extreme vegan, like the veganic witch, i also come from australia too :D and i will move flys from my face too, good vvork veganic witch,
Keep ranting
- VeganAnimalLover1994
VeganAnimalLover1994 2 years ago
the story behind some vegans hating smokers you're refering to is probably that of Straight Edge Vegans. Since vegan lifestyle was later included into Straight Edge ethics (or rather some of them) these things do kinda relate. The logic is that being addicted to something your mind is not clear to strive for betterment of life in general. I'm a straight edge vegan but being vegan is MUCH more important to me... I might smoke or drink again but NEVER would i eat meat.
GivenWillingly 2 years ago
leave the fly alone! It's just a peaceful little fella :D
anyway, I remember saying I won't be vegan, being vegetarian is more than enough, being vegan is just exaggerating and bla bla bla...
well but vegan catering at concerts kinda got me hooked and now i love it.
I still don't like vegans who say vegetarians are half-assed. Being vegetarian is really the first step of being aware of what you eat and how it affects living beings. I even think going vegan directly might be a bit too fast.
GivenWillingly 2 years ago 2
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You don't eat meat, but I'm willing to bet that you do eat pussy.
LunarFeet 2 years ago
Your accent is so cute! Could you give me some cigarette brands that don't test on animals, that I won't need to roll myself? I'm a vegan and I smoke. Hell, I'd rather smoke until I'm 80 and just potentially hurt myself , then take even one bite out of a cheese burger ever again. What kind of egg rolls were you eating in the other part of this video? I love egg rolls. YUM. Vegan food is so delicious!
Homewrecker386 2 years ago
I don't think there is any unfortunately, I only smoke using 'raw' cigerette papers becuase the gummy stuff on others usually has gletin in them, and real pre rolled cigerettes usually contain animal fats. I too am looking though for more information
mairiiibull 2 years ago
The gummy stuff? Hm, you must be talking about rolling papers. Regular cigs have filters, but they're not gummy. Maybe one of us should ask on yahoo. Maybe someone on their would know. UGH. It sucks, man. If you find out though, definitely let me know!
Homewrecker386 2 years ago
Yes, but they need to get stuck together in the factory. And the reason they continue to burn (unlike a roll up that goes out if you stop smoking it) is that they contain animal fats.
mairiiibull 2 years ago
When you smoke you ARE hurting yourself.
eltonsfan 2 years ago
Should have made shufly pie xD
horrible joke I know lol :P
ironman711 2 years ago
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lol wow she just tried to kill that fly.....vegans are full of LOLZ
nawgee 2 years ago
the thing that pisses me off is how meat eaters say that vegans think they're better than everyone else
that's what meat eaters think cause otherwise they wouldn't eat everyone else
tezkag72 2 years ago
Things that annoy me: Vegans hitting flies
Ceres108 2 years ago
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Know what annoys me?
Self righteous jackasses.
Also known as vegans.
EngineerAdams 2 years ago
wtf shes trying to kill a fucking fly when shes talking about how shes loves animals
34tuforlunch 2 years ago
She wasn't trying to kill the fly. She was moving it out of her face.
marcluc1988 2 years ago 14
@marcluc1988 she i thought it was a guy
THIS0GUY0WAS0HERE 1 year ago
She's talking about what annoys her - check out the title, or listen to the contents.
HengistTheGreat 2 years ago
Do vegans swat flies and mosquitoes and things? I mean no offense to anyone. I'm just wondering.
haircutbob2 2 years ago 3
I don't think the way she did it was harmful but I don't swat them to kill them ever but yes, if there's one in my face, I'd movfe it out of the way.
marcluc1988 2 years ago 9
Thanks. That's something I've always wondered.
haircutbob2 2 years ago
@marcluc1988
Thet3 1 year ago
@Thet3 You haven't put a comment. It's just a name. I'm assuming that was not intentional. Marc.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
Vegans just don't eat animal products: everything else is fair game, including hunting, blood sports, whatever. You won't find many hunting vegans, but you could theoretically . If someone calls themselves "an ethical" or "compassionate" vegan, then they won't do the hunting and bear-baiting thing.
HengistTheGreat 2 years ago
Thanks, I didn't know that.
haircutbob2 2 years ago
What if you were trapped on an island with no vegetation, but they are many predetorial animals, what would you do?
lb8068 2 years ago
lb8068, your hypothetical does not justify the millions of inhumane slaughters that occur every day in factory farms. It does not apply to our current economic system at all...
laureno07 2 years ago
then thats not true, because what would the predators eat?
they would eat herbivores and without plants herbivores dont exist and therefore predators wont exist. because there is nothing to prey on.
TheLonelyWaffleKid 2 years ago
personally I'm NOT on an island...
I'm in Italy, so I'm VEGAN.
ItalianMorrison 2 years ago
Tell me where this place is. Without vegetation, there'd be no life.
marcluc1988 2 years ago
There could be life.. mushrooms... those life forms they find on asteroids.. not exactly an abundance, but technically there could be life without "vegetation". But I take the point.
HengistTheGreat 2 years ago
Oh yeah-I don't know about you, but im not eating egg rolls for the rest of my life.
ellochaos06 2 years ago
I think your being unfair, to be totally honest. Coming from a vegatarian for over a year! It is hard. People are raised on eating meat and dairy products-it's just how society is. And besides, your family isn't going to go out of their way to buy YOU vegan-based products. Why should they? You made the choice. You starve. It's hard to brake off from habits and beliefs you GREW UP ON. So, I think you should be a LITTLE more considerate in your videos. Your coming off as a jerk. I won't lie.
ellochaos06 2 years ago
Look at this individual....There is obviously something wrong with her to begin with...I am begginning to see a patern where Vegans are concerned...The majority appear to be mentally challenged, hypocritical, pale, and sickly individuals...Look in her eyes...see that glazed look?...Like a drug addict or somebody about to drink the coolaide for their religious beliefs....Deeply disturbed...Be forwarned before indoctrinating yourself into this cult.
timetodepop 2 years ago
I am a vegan that is a very healthy individual, you can tell by my thighs :-p
Xinoutorah 2 years ago
veganism is absolutely pointless.
Why the hell don't you put the same energy into some thing much more constructive to society.
GammaSouljah 2 years ago
I don't think veganism is pointless just a way to eat a mostly plant based diet. I am sure there are those who eat a mostly meat based diet. I respect everyone's eating choices, it's up to them what they put in their body not me. Being vegan has allowed me to experiment more with food and look after my nutrition which I have never done before. :)
Xinoutorah 2 years ago 2
a plant base diet is best there many level of veganism eat meat and living in USA where there high level sicken Msg food coloring so on it killing our healthy the drug company got you american fooled that junk foods is pure hapyness very sad
shatoctgabey7 2 years ago
vegan is stupid, just do what u wanna do.. why do u need to blog on a life style, u think ur all morally right and shit, but what do u if ur homeless, u cant be a vegan.. u'd be dead.. u got it good if u got the time to worry about vegan
Robtarded 2 years ago
Now that you are a vegan even the fly is not afraid of you anymore! LOL!
StalwartSpirit 2 years ago
LOL!!!!!!!!! hahahahhahahahah! thats sad loolol
im a vegetarian but that waz funny x]
guylinerSalchow 2 years ago
I understand your anger babe, it is annoying when people say that to me to. im vegan but just becausei have never been able to swallow meat it makes me sick i dont no much about what animals go through but i know its a rough deal sometimes, i understand ur stress ur not crazy xxx
Scyra765 2 years ago
Haha! AND TO TOP IT OFF YOU SMOKE!? I can't take anyone seriously that smokes. You're all about animal rights, but you buy into phillip morris' cigarette empire, and don't even treat your own body with respect? Haha, this is like a fashion statement, being vegan, so that you can flaunt that you are vegan and and be all, "I'm Vegan, ohhh, look at me, watch out!" I wonder how much you'll think about animal rights when animal tested drugs are keeping you alive once you get emphysema.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
It's seems some vegans are "vegan" to oppose certain manufacturing processes and morals toward animal abuse, which isn't per se, "a healthy living life-plan". While others are vegan on edge for health/spirituality, are aware of animal cruelity but take it as a "woe of man" and live to greater experience life on a more inner personal level, the latter more outward motivated.
ARCDBEACH 2 years ago
If anyone should use a drug or drugs tested on animals that does not mean the person is benefiting from it because the human clinical trials are why people benefit from drugs. And then we can also thank animal testing for the deaths and malformations of other humans.
ShroedingerWatcher 2 years ago
And you can't respect smokers? You americans are the most anti free of all the people out there. Us liberals like the ability to be able to choose what we do, as long as we don't impose on others freedom. I guess you just can't handle the fact that people can decide what they want to do for themselves. Hmm. Many of you american citizens views reflect your countries foreign policy.
hippydude89 2 years ago
see, you wimped out! And Liberal is apparantly a country now? You gotta take it to the next level if you want to claim to be a vegan, otherwise you're a lame idealist.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Liberal countries. I don't need to whimp out. I don't use animal products. I am doing the best I can for a good cause, which is better than what you non vegans are doing. And I mean liberal countries.
hippydude89 2 years ago
I'm all about people deciding what they want for themselves, btw, I love it. Vegans mostly have this idea that they are out there for the greater good, and usually they are all up in my face about it. Like I bring in a cake and the stupid vegan is all, man, you killed cows with that cake. And I'm thinking, the fucking cow needed to be milked either way, dipshit, they're unnatural, human bred animals. Or like not eating eggs, even from free range animals. The shits lay eggs either way.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
And how about india. Right, they got a million bazillion people there, in squalor. They've got miserable cows all over the place, but they can't slaughter the animals. So now not only are the cows suffering, but those retards are letting a major source of nutrients die right in front of them. I wish veganism was a diet, rather than a fucking idealogy. I agree with many of the health benefits, no qualms. But wtf, dude, we're all killing animals or thier habitats, so get over the ideology part!
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
And it's the vegans in YOUR face? You know how many vids there are for vegan recipes or for vegitarians, not doing anything to meat eaters, and the comments page is spammed with stupid meat eaters saying vegans are pussies fags etc. Maybe you're just so bias that you are blind to the fact that you are in our faces too.
hippydude89 2 years ago
I haven't commented on any of those videos.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
How can you say I have got nothing? I just explained why milk is wrong, and you couldn't even come back to that. Infact most of the points i've made you have avoided. dumbass.
hippydude89 2 years ago
The only point you've made is about cows and chickens, both of which are NOT wild animals. Cows have been bred by humans to live in captivity. Some give milk whether they've given birth or not. Most breeds of chickens would be extinct immediately if let free in the wild. What are you going to do, abandon them?
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Well yeah that#s the problem with milk. It's not fair that cows are bred, free range or not, to have calves which are killed as soon as they are born so humans take the milk. Free range hens aren't as free range as you'd think either.
hippydude89 2 years ago
Like the one's in my neighbor's back yard? Yeah, they better not eat those eggs! Oh no! Dude, you got nothing.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
So you are basicly expecting me to think that all free range eggs come from places like your neighbours backyard?! That's retarded. YOU'VE got nothing.
hippydude89 2 years ago
The fact that you are against eating eggs, even if they are from my neighbors back yard is ridiculous. You're an absolutist, and that's pathetic. Maybe that's my problem. Vegans are like facists. Absolutist. It's this or nothing. That's what makes you suck so bad.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
When did I say I wouldn't eat eggs from your neighbours backyard?! You are ridiculous. Every arguement "of mine" that you respond to AREN'T my arguements. They are just points you make up because you can't break my arguements.
hippydude89 2 years ago
No vegan would eat eggs. I don't get what your problem is dude. You're like the last person on earth who should be defending veganism, because you have no idea what you're talking about. I know that a lot of people won't agree with what I've said, but I make arguements that should get people thinking. You've contributed nothing valuable at all to this arguement. You haven't built a case yet to be broken. Real vegans have made cases, and that's what I am arguing against. Stop trying dude.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
HOW haven't I made an arguement. I have made an arguement, that it is wrong to exploit animals. Maybe you try arguing in my language then we will see who gets wtf pwned. I have made a well written arguement for my second language idiot. Are you trying to say, that it is easy to find eggs layed by hens from your people like your neighbours back yards?! NO THAT'S RETARDED. If it really was that nice, then I would eat eggs. But then again I was never fond of eggs anyway.
hippydude89 2 years ago
Its clear from your creepy emails that you don't even know the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian. You sent me a list of award winning, egg fed vegetarians who won medals. Vegans would not eat eggs, and you claim to be a vegan. Therefore even commenting to the contrary, that you would eat eggs, makes no sense. you're actually agreeing with my argument if you say that it's ok to eat eggs, which you just have. You have agreed with me, I don't get it.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Actually you are too retarded to understand your own arguement. You argue "it's ok to eat ALL eggs" I argue no it isn't, only if you can be completely sure that the hens you get them from are completely content. Therefore it is much more conveniant for people with a conscience like ME to avoid all animal products.
hippydude89 2 years ago
You're completely crazy. I was arguing about the eggs in someone's back yard. I already understand the vegan's standpoint, so of course eating eggs from some factory mill isn't part of my argument. You just said you'd eat eggs so your arguement doesn't make sense. You arent avoiding all animal products. Maybe your language skills are losing something in translation. About as much sense as being a lithuanian nazi, which you claim to be.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
You are the most retarded person I have ever come across. Where have I ever claimed to be a nazi?! I HATE national socialism, I HATE fascism, and can you not see the big fucking "I SUPPORT ISRAEL" Sign on my profile. INVALID! Why would a NAZI have a picture of lenin on their profile? why would a NAZI support the biggest jewish state? RETARD! RETARD! RETARD!!!!!. Btw, I said in an IDEAL world I'd eat eggs, but this isn't an ideal world. Besides vegan shouldn't be a definite label
hippydude89 2 years ago
a lithuanian communist is pretty mixed up too, considering the crappy state russian rule left the baltic countries in.. i guess that means youre of russian heritage?
also, i have to correct you. the definition of a vegan is someone who seeks to exclude all animal food and dairy products from their diet, it is a definite label. words such as lacto vegetarianism and lacto-ovo vegetarianism exist to describe different types of diets.
and and btw, you're embarrassing me as an european.
maurivaan 2 years ago
I have my OWN principles and morals. Fucking douche.
hippydude89 2 years ago
You're a very angry spokesperson for veganism and jewish people. Lots of caps. and swears. I probably would vote you as the official representation of an angry, inarticulate, self-righteous vegan/jew. I commend you!
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
I'm catholic, and your ignorance is what angers me. Your ignorance is the cause of your retarded arguements.
hippydude89 2 years ago
Actually I'm kind of glad you're stuck in lithuania, because you're a pretty scary/creepy dude. You sent me like 7 angry emails. I have no doubt you'd try to kill me.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
And you're glad I'm stuck in lithuania? I've been to US on many occasions. That's how I know the place sucks.
hippydude89 2 years ago
so, did anyone think you were a pretty angry person when you visited?
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
I'm a nice person, to people who aren't ignorant.