Heaven and Hell - Things to Consider

[kputty1]

The soul is substantive. There is an old study where a dr. Weighed those sick and dying and at the moment of passing, the body lost an unexplainable 21 grams I believe, I know it was 20 something. The extra weight was not due to purging because these fluids/solids remained on the bed. The whole bed was the scale to take into account any such issues. Also, my ability to process a particular piece of factual info doesn't make it less factual. We can claim gravity is flawed and state all of t

[khote14]

@kputty1 it was really more likely to be rectal flaccidity, some of the lower intestine dumping. Some methane, stuff like that.

Looking for a soul to exist, and looking to prove it because a quarter oz of body weight was lost ... man, that's pathetic.

[bandet888]

Infidelguy I hope you can find some faith in the possibility of the existance of some kind of God. The God in the Bible doesn't much sense to me either. If there's a God I'm sure he will understand your point of view. Remember just because our parrents tell about Santa Clause doesn't make them bad people. Maybe the Bible is like the Santa Clause story, after all God considers all of us his children (if he exists)

[casketmouth]

@bandet888 the moment u said "HE" is a perception so u automatically are using a carnal mind to acknowledge him

[bandet888]

@casketmouth I think most people that talk about a higher power tend to use "HE" I suspect but I could be wrong. I supose I could have said "HER" or "IT". What ever the truth is I hope it's a happy ending even though somesouls may have to learn a good lesson. There's a lot of bad people in the world as well as good ones. Peace.

[bandet888]

I consider myself an acnostic not an athiest. I consider the possibility that there could be some higher intellagence. The God in the bible doesn't make much sense to because I ponder the same thing the infidelguy ponders that God already knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit. It's possible God tells us about Hell so that there's a better chance that humans will behave better on Earth even though that's not always the case. If there's a God I have faith it will be a happy ending for EVERYBODY!

[3jewell]

I'm with ya man! Those "who know" are fooling themselves. Question it all until the truth is proven as fact. Faith is for the ignorant or weak. However I don't dislike the faithful. Life is a cruel mistress and sometimes you need a crutch to keep going. So even if you believe that Santa Claus is protecting you, as long as it keeps you going, I say go for it. Just don't lose sight of the truth behind the veil of disguise you've created.... And don't get in my face with your bullshit!

[jazzx251]

One of the worst arguments I've heard is that God erases your brain when you reach heaven. So you have no knowledge of anyone you previously loved/liked who's in hell.

That is truly terrifying to me.

[jazzx251]

Wow ... 2006!

I thought I was the first to come up with the "what if my loved one is in hell" argument.

This is a thorough examination of the Christian notion of heaven - and it is found severely lacking.

Superb video.

[phillozoph50]

Reflection of my opinions.Thanks for saying it so clearly.

[ackademikthought]

actually you're VERY right and i had this same discussion with someone else, you need your 5 senses to perceive/interact w/ your enviornment, so without a physical body, how do you see, hear or communicate? or even think without a brain? very interesting... but tbh that'll never be answered lol. we'll just have to wait and find out after we die.

[metallicarocks123]

Because you don't understand Gods way until you get there, that makes your thoughts right??? I really feel sorry for you. Theres a hell for the non believers, God gives ppl the option to accept him or not, if they choose not too, they will be sent to hell for not believing in him, he is the creator of you. I really do hope you change your thoughts on this before your time is up my friend.

[jazzx251]

@metallicarocks123

Your hell is here on Earth. It's not entirely your fault. You were brainwashed.

Get rid of this nonsense and embrace the only reality you will ever have.

Our time here is so short. And then it's over.

[metallicarocks123]

@jazzx251 I feel really bad for you, I really do.

[iknowme1]

in islamic theology, ppl will be resurrected in body ...also there will sex lol

i don't see anything wrong with rewards and punishment (e.g., heaven and hell) because that's how people learn in life

hell is also temporary ...i really don't know why i'm commenting on youtube, but i just had a discussion at work

[cgtube27]

the infidelguy, I like his concepts, he replys to others ignorant commits, no offence. theres many aspects to consider. it seems to me his position is to be an antigod of some sort. to convince one not to believe? are laws and religion man made? still our limitations shouldn't allow someone to judge a MANS' faith in spite of ones own lack of understandment. who has the right to speak for God or against God in such a distructive manner. I call that "uninventing the wheel". please reply

[soulreaper41]

Good points IG. If heaven is a place of eternal bliss than what will we be doing in there that will make us happy forever? Riding roller coasters or something? Also, the bible says that god has prepared a mansion for everyone. But if you do not carry your possessions to heaven and you are a celestial being, then why would anyone need a large house? People just accept that heaven is this awesome place without ever thinking about it. Its a dead end idea.

[LIlSJ16]

I am a Hindiusm and I am a Soul predicter, I tell whether a living person's soul is rebirthed or a new soul, therefore whenyou died we have choices in the other world to either stay there or to be born again, so dnt think this is impossible, Every living soul when it dies passes on to another body. you will still live again, so stop worrying

[besidemymind]

WOW! That is some silly, magically stuff! But... how can you prove there is a soul?

And you say when the soul dies, it passes on to another body. How can a soul die? And what body?

[v1660]

wow. that rabbithole was reeealy deep.

hov about you discuss the psychological/philosophical value of hell, heaven, angels, and deamons etc. being inside our own universe and outside.

not all christian people are orthodox fundamentalists whose afraid of some eternal fire you know. solomon didnt believe in any life after death. neither do i.

[joejoezmouse]

i also believe that when i die...it will be like I never existed.. no more thinking, feeling, nothing...

heaven is just a comfort for some people

[mickdornfad]

spiritualism is bullshit

[rocksoliddnb]

Did you even read the Bible? It clearly states that we will be given new bodies. It's not only in Paul's letters, it's also in Revelation. Secondly, your argument "I can't be happy knowing that a love one is in hell" in order to get rid of even the concept of Heaven and Hell is appealing to consequences. But to entertain the thought of your statements about requiring a physical body in order to interact, you're assuming that we'll require a body in Heaven or Hell in order to interact. [TBC!]

[rocksoliddnb]

Consider two things: 1. Is it hard for God to cause spirits to interact without a body? 2. How do spiritual beings in general interact without a body?—surely these beings interact in heaven!

[shaithis45]

rocksolidnb, I couldn't even imagine spending time forever in Heaven or Hell so there is something wrong with the overall message which has been twisted througout history to where relgions more or less rip one off and have also become very corrupted be it tithing blindly or scandals in Catholocism. I just believe in being a good person and being nice and helpful at times and that is as far as I take it.

[sdbfighter]

This dude's a gimp, well how doya well what doya blaah blaah blaah

[djburrondarize]

People just need to accept that death will be just like before you were born. You won't know.

[lovedbyall28]

Yo u have a ways to go. Keep pressing brother

[lovedbyall28]

Hell was intended for the rebellious fallen angels but things changed when sin entered man.

[NearVSMello]

The main problem with Heaven and Hell in my opinion is that they are realms of Being. They are permanent, consistent, and eternal. We however are not OF the realm of Being. We are born and bread in the realm of Becoming. We have a beginning and an end, our actions have beginnings and ends, the thoughts that pass our mind have beginnings and ends, the events we experience have beginnings and ends, etc. We are Becoming creatures. How then could we feel at home in a realm of Being?

[NearVSMello]

That little quote at the beginning:

How can heaven truly be bliss when people you love are burning in hell?

To be fair I don't think that entirely follows as wisdom. You also have to take into account the idea that people are perfectly judged upon death, so everyone is exactly where they deserve and has gained all that they merit. To that end all who deserve to be loved would be in Heaven and all who did not would be in Hell, and this would be made clear to all upon death.

[Ruxias]

Amen to that, brother.

"Gentle, loving flames"

[theunsane187]

I completly agree!!!!

[scionlightning]

"Spiritual eyes?"

Does Reggie believe in an eventual higher Evolution?

[phantomburger]

There is no mention of hell or burning eternal torment in the Christian Bible. It's made up, along with various other teachings that are not supported biblically.

[RickyUK100]

The soul is pure energy, and energy can't die it can only transform. life is spiritual exersise.

[senih2]

1 Corinthians 2:14-16

[connerjd]

Unless there is beer and a hooters restaurant, I don't want to go to heaven.

[Clutchology]

You're right. I do have no faith. Everything I think is based on reason and evidence.

As for evolution being my god, that's just flawed. You may not be able to contemplate not having a god, but I seriously do not worship evolution. I do not bow down to it, I do not dedicate my life to it, and I do not believe it will give me life after death.

Evolution has no concept of a soul, and therefore not believing in life after death is not de-evolution.

[Clutchology]

No, imagine 200 years ago, before the sperm and egg were concieved, before we were in any way, shape or form in existence. That is the state we will return to when we die. Complete non-existence.

[emanysrael144]

if you believe this then that means that you have no faith and hang on to the coat tails of evolution and de-evolution. YHWH created Adam and Eve first and then some others but humanity continued from adam loins even after the flood of Noah. Evolution is your God cause thats what you believe.

[MasterofDisaster17]

i completely agree, i don't se why there would be an afterlife, i love mark Twain's quote that says:

I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.

[emanysrael144]

Anyone who has walked this earth beside YAHSHUA the Messiah himself will be judge:those that live in the law will be judge with the law and those without the law will be judged without the law. Everyone on this earth will recieve eternal life, that is a fact but you are either going to spend it in 1 of 2 places. The Lake of Fire and Brimstone(so called hell) or in The New Kingdom(Rev 21:1) -this new kingdom will COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, no one goes to heave but he who came from heaven-John 3:13

[Clutchology]

We return to the state we were in before we were born. Quite simple really.

[emanysrael144]

Clutchology, so you are saying that we are going to return to the state we were in before we were born which is sperm in our fathers nut sacks right? no man! thats wrong as hell!

[LURK]

then what happenz when we die if there iz no heaven or hell?

[emanysrael144]

To give up something means that you already have to have it. So when the script says he gave up the ghost that means that the Messiah should have been hopin up and down ever since his baptism, just like them Christians do right?....well if this is the same spirit that the christians hav that the messiah had, then why doesnt the script say anything about the Messiah jumping up and down? CAUSE WHAT THEY DO AINT GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH YHWH-THE GOD OF THE HEBREW ISRAELITE PEOPLE.

[emanysrael144]

Black Christian churches kill me with this "HOLY GHOST" Shit. They say when the preacher is "preaching"-HA!, everyone gets the holy ghost. They are quick to display actions of jumping up and down and hooping and hollering. and They say this is the same HOLY GHOST that the Messiah, YAHSHUA had. If this is so, then why wasnt the Messiah jumpin up and down when he was hung on that damn tree? does the script say he GAVE UP the ghost Matt.27:50

[emanysrael144]

Now about heaven: it is simply stated that the earth will be destroyed when YAHSHUA returns. but it is also stated that this earth will pass away, then the kingdom that is in heaven which is the NEW CITY of JERUSALEM WILL COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN. Rev. 21:1-2. So if them Christian folk gone fly up into heaven after earth is destroyed then they gone miss the kingdom cuz its coming down from heaven. LMFAO! a lil spiritual humor but its true.

[emanysrael144]

The Lake of Fire and Brimstone mentioned in Rev. 21:8 is the judgment of YHWH and for the wicked. All men that stand in front of the great white throne of judgment will be thrown into the lake of fire if their name is not written in the Lambs Book of Life: Rev. 20:11-15. This is THE Judgement Day for all, as it is stated in the scripture. So therfore anyone who has died has not yet been judge and wont be until this day.

[emanysrael144]

Second Viewpoint: The Hell THING. Ok no one has been tossed into hell i dont know where in THE HELL you got that from. But when people talk about the word hell, hell (dictionary definition) means the resting place for the dead. When someone dies, where does their body go? in the cememtary. so in that sense hell is the cemetary.

[emanysrael144]

Cont'd...in Duetoronomy 4:24,9:3 its states that YHWH is a consuming fire. How can human flesh stand to be in the presence of a consuming fire knowing that his flesh would be burned. Did Moses come close enough to touch the burning bush of fire that was not consumed? no! so HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU!?!?!

[emanysrael144]

The Christian faith believes that your spirit is you as a whole. Your fleshly image. But even YAHSHUA the messiah stated that no one goes to heaven be he that came from heaven; John 3:13. Christians are also quick to say that "walked,eat,slept with god yesterday" how can you when you are made of flesh?--Cont'd

[emanysrael144]

First of all....in Genesis 3:19 it states that we are made from dust and to dust we shall return. When the Bible speaks about the soul its reffering to ur flesh or skin and bones, Thats what will stay on earth. Your spirit or holy spirit(so called-ghost), is that which is GIVEN from YHWH to preach the teachings of his laws and judgement. The same thing that Happened to YAHSHUA the messiah upon crucifiction-Matthew 27:50.

[thickblkpa]

I read Revelations, when you go to heaven, you will be given a new body and you will not remember your life here on earth. IT sounded very pointless..Why not create new being from jump?!?!

[TyRiders2]

Hey I know I'm going to hell!!!

[TyRiders2]

Dude you don't have to go to church go to a good person.

[richall]

Pope John Paul2 said there was no firey hell and that there was no literal hell. That hell was the seperation from God.

[Greyghostvol1]

what does that even mean?

[greatersteve]

i dont have the time to answer ur questions. but honestly to be speaking, ur questions seem a bit dumb. Cuz.. u seem to have an incomplete knowledge of What ur talking about.

[garyo36]

I'm impressed but it's more about what's fair than you talk about. Check out my own anti-Christ myspace/sonofoz2. See ya on the other side!

[time4truth]

The Bible says "All have sinned" (Romans 3:23)

EVERYONE-can you honestly say you have never lied or thought any wrong thing ever?

The Bible says that because of sin, we are on our way to Hell-there is nothing we can do to save ourselves.

The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven because he shed his blood for us. (John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, Colossians 1:14)

Accept Jesus Christ in your heart as Lord and Saviour, thanking Him for dying for your sins.

[Eiketsu3000]

So anyone before the time of Jesus went to hell...oh yeah and don't forget the other sects of christianity that will burn in hell for believing the wrong story

[time4truth]

I am guessing you've never asked where people went before Jesus died (Read Matthew 27:51 and Luke 16 and you'll find out.) Secondly, all but the misguided believe in the same path to salvation-they just differ on minor doctrinal things, the exception being JWs, Mormons and Catholics that believe you have to work for your salvation. That is untrue (Eph 2:8.) If you would like further information though, I am happy to e-mail you. T4T

[MetalKen]

what about James 2:17?

"Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."

[MetalKen]

And by the way -1 Peter 1:17 "The Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work."

Revelation 2:23-"I will give unto every one of you according to your works."

Revelation 20:12-"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

Seems like works are pretty important.

[time4truth]

Easy to forget verses such as

Eph 2:8+9-By grace are ye saved, through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God-NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST! So here is an apparent contradiction (2 Tim 2:15.) So next step, who were these comments written to? In Rev 20:12 simply read on-they were judged by their works, and those not found in the book of life were cast into the lake of fire-so who were saved and for what?

[time4truth]

As for your other comments-same question, who were they written to, and in relation to what. Were Jews saved the same way as we are-(answer no) are the tribulation saints saved in the same way (no.) So who is the book of James written to? (hint in Gal 2 and James 1) However-what i do like is your use of scripture, so continue to feed me with information. God Bless.

[MetalKen]

What about the one in Revelations?

[time4truth]

Answer my question and I'll answer yours. who were they written to, and in relation to what with regard to your verses?

[MetalKen]

the jews of the 12 tribes, to the best of my recall. And this is actually the first time I personally have heard of 'different paths to salvation. When i was growing up, i went to a bunch of different churches (Moved a lot). And depending on which church, they said "Your place in heaven is secure if you believe regardless of what you do" or "Your saved but if you dont act like it you go to hell". thats probably across twenty different churches.

[time4truth]

I really appreciate your openess! I was shocked too when I learned about different paths to salvation, even though afterwards it seems so obvious. I mean, the people in the Old Testament were never saved by Jesus Christ (thus different people are saved in different ways in the Bible-the posh term for this is dispensationalism.) A good book you might want to check is C Larkin "Dispensational Truth."

[Sanctuary77]

your a dumbass if you belive god created earth you don't question how you see if a man can create a planet he can make you happy end of story.

[Chuloloc]

Good video, Infidel Guy.

[andopolis]

Good video.

I've read childrens books that were more convincing than the Bible. I have now joined the Church of 'Where The Wild Things Are'.

It's like christianity, but with cool costumes.

[MichaelChamploo]

LOOK up George Carlin "Religion"

Proves that those religious hustlers are a bunch of scame artists

[gprentice303]

ive heard it, but how does he "prove" anything? thats right he doesnt.

[emanysrael144]

are you talking to me?

[gprentice303]

no i replied directly to some guy talking about george carlin

[MetaMorphy]

Sorry, I meant that heaven was pure contemplation of God. It is, however, complete non-sense.

[MetaMorphy]

If you hold to dualism, does this still follow. Descartes thought that the soul drove the body using the penial gland. Also, while I am an atheist by the way, I was told in heaven you lose your attachment to all earthly things---that hell is pure contemplation of God.

[Maple2009]

I am not a Atheist more like a Agnostic but, alot of what you say makes since. Why should we go to hell for something we can't prove exist? An if we were programed by god to do bad things then why send us there? That question always made me wonder.

[likenfreude]

Maybe it's anti-gold, composed of anti-protons, anti-neutrons, and anti-electrons. Puts a whole new scary spin on that fresco by Michaelangelo of man reaching out to touch the finger of God.

[rayburne]

Good Job Morpheus. Thank you for giving me a thought for today. Salaam.

[omunhvilag]

Infidelguy you are my kind of non-viacon, you have that kind of sexy innocent voice if only it was an octave higher and more educated. It is easy to disbelieve today for the half-enlighted. You have to know more to know God. Nevertheless, it may be all words, words, words. I can find view everywhere: Hell on earth.

[savannasmiles54]

Fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell. (God) When we go to heaven we will have a new body. A celestrial body. Not this corrupted, sinful body. But that body that goes to the lake of fire will be this body and soul.

[perfectending24]

thanks for putting "God" in brackets. I thought you were talking about the great penis faced warrior!! In addition my body is not corrupted or sinful thankyou very much! its fucking sexy!

[samslams]

Hey Iguy....thought-provoking without being preachy. I hope heaven is beyone my earthly imagination.

[HFDM60]

Let me just say you'll have lots of time to contemplate these perplexing questions of yours when you are someday burning in Hell.

[isthereanamenotyetta]

I think you got the point of the vid lol

[perfectending24]

I refuse to let you say this!!!!

[BlueFireWitch]

The thing is that the brain we have judges things by the balance of things around them. There is no good without bad, dark without light, etc. Hence the reason I believe in reincarnation.

[amjiva]

sinroe,

The source of my information is Vedic. Although it is also valid from a philosophical viewpoint as well as internally consistent in itself. I have watched numerous other infidelguy vids and even posted on his web forum. I think he has some valid points, but his conclusions do not always follow. Most of these problems can be reconciled, though it often takes a broader study of religion.

[adawg25]

YOU don't need eyes because it's magical!

[funkless]

The use of the word magical, gives Heaven/Hell this almost Harry-Potterish, kid story feel which sounds patronizing and unreal. I don't think it is right to dismiss anything with the excuse 'it's magical'.

[amjiva]

As well, the spiritual self and spiritual fire are non-different from each other. Neither can be damaged or extinguished and the duality of pain-pleasure does not apply. There is not a "bad" spirital world and a "good" spiritual world. There is only the One, Absolute, Spiritual manifestation, and that includes God as the center of all activities. Hell is supposed to be separation from the absolute spiritual God. Therefore it cannot be spiritual.

[sinroe]

ok... did you read this in the bible, get this from your pastor/priest, or come to these conclusions yourself? and no, i'm not trying to be a prick. infidelguy has some other vids you might wanna check out, specifically the comment response video he did for this one.

[amjiva]

sinroe,

The source of my information is Vedic. Although it is also valid from a philosophical viewpoint as well as internally consistent in itself. I have watched numerous other infidelguy vids and even posted on his web forum. I think he has some valid points, but his conclusions do not always follow. Most of these problems can be reconciled, though it often takes a broader study of religion.

[amjiva]

Everything in the spiritual realm is non-different from every other thing. For example, in this material world, the self and the body are different from each other. The body takes birth, grows, maintains for some time, dwindles, dies and eventually vanishes. On the other hand, the self (or soul) is eternally enduring and does not change. In the absolute spiritual realm, the self and the body are one.

[amjiva]

Spiritual fire:

Sure. There is spiritual fire. As I explained before, all material constituents are reflections of an original, spiritual substance. But the question here pertains to souls burning and suffering in spiritual fire. Here is the problem with that: spirit, as opposed to "matter", is absolute. Absolute means free from duality. In other words, there is no pleasure and pain as we know them in this relative manifestation.

[amjiva]

Soul & fire:

I agree with you, Infidelguy. The soul cannot be burned by fire, nor can it feel pain from it. Souls themselves do not suffer at all. Suffering is a characteristic of materially conditioned souls. Christians simply lack this information.

[amjiva]

As a result of this, you think certain other bodies to be your family, friends, enemies, pets, boss, co-workers, spouse, etc. This is an illusion because self has nothing to do with these material designations.

Also, apply the same logic found in my post, "Heaven versus sex enjoyment" found above.

[amjiva]

Heaven versus mommy:

Bottomline, if you are attached more so to your mom than to God, then you will remain in this material world. If your mom is in hell, then you will go to hell with her. The problem here is misidentification. Due to material attachments, you are thinking self in relation to the body.

[amjiva]

The circumstance for reflection is the water. Similarly, the circumstance for material manifestation is the desire for thinking, feeling, willing and acting separately from God. If we want to enjoy the real tree of devotional service unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead, then we will transcend this world of illusion.

[amjiva]

Heaven's gold:

Spiritual counterpart?

EXACTLY!

The forms of this material universe are not the original substance, but are likened to a reflection of that substance. The original substance is in the absolute, spiritual realm, that is also manifest in variegatedness. The forms in this material world are temporary just like the reflection of a tree is temporary on the bank of a reservoir of water.

[amjiva]

Otherwise, the spiritual soul is tangible as is it's spiritual body and the spiritual Heaven. A more accurate definition of matter versus spirit is that matter means ignorant of God and spirit means God-realized. Although, due to current circumstances, spirit is often understood as intangible in reference to these material senses.

[amjiva]

Immaterial Heaven:

Contrary to popular belief, "spiritual" does not mean intangible or nonphysical. That the soul is intangible is a circumstance of being conditioned by this "material" nature.

[amjiva]

Heaven versus sex enjoyment:

Try to understand. If you are attached to seeking pleasure with the fleeting material body, then you are attaching yourself to that which is inferior to your eternal nature. It is not possible to enter into the absolute, eternal "Heaven" if you are attached to relative, temporary things.

Any questions?

[helterskelter1]

"God is the Santa Claus for adults" I think you stole that line from comments I made on some other youtube videos. Good line though!

[HellsFire22]

Hey are that guy I saw on an episode of "Wife Swap"? If so , the part were you was crying when that woman told you about yourself had my laughing real hard. Sorry it was just too funny. If not, sorry for the mistake.

By the way, you have a nice show going on. I do believe that there is a God or some sort of higher power. I dont think that those who choose not to believe are damn to Hell. Just a little out of touch.  Good luck.

[UnivAnom]

Nice vid Infidelguy, good site too. Sadly, most people are alot more emotional than rational. Most of these people tend to justify beliefs on desires rather than reasons. For example, a previous comment here equates not believing in God with hating God.. WTF?! Religions appeal to desires and try to supress rational thought with a tool called faith. Faith is belief without reason and the illusion of certainty. Theism causes more suffering than happiness.

[focusthis51]

a wise man once said "I dont beleive in god because i dont believe in the tooth fairy"

[snoopval]

Hi I'm a christian and I like your broadcasts alot. I find them very interesting and informative. I must say though a couple of things though. 1. Heaven is supposed to be out of our comprehension therefore things such as sex and our idea of pleasure is no comparison to heaven. Also we don't know that they won't have sex or an equivilent to that in heaven.

[wolfwing1]

Cept the biblical description of heaven is actually based upon how the ancients saw it, the towers for protection the gate, the walls, the streetts paved with gold, this was a heaven based on ancient cities...with the desires of man thrown in.

[chadagg]

haha, smell Grandma - that's how I identify mine!

[Rawk4Life]

So I am guessing the main purpose of your show is to nit-pick EVERYTHING to death? You're looking way too into it, I don't believe those in Heaven will have recollection of the souls in hell because they'll be too busy rejoicing in God's splendor to even want to be reminded of it.

[Jmyise]

If people go to hell, did'nt the omniscient god create them to go to hell in the first place? If you don't want people you love to suffer forever why not ask God to stop burning them instead of rewarding you with a place to worship him/her forever in peace? Don't focus on making a powerful/omnipotent god happy, he/she can take care of him-self/her-self.

[Jmyise]

People that didn't ask to exist will either burn forever or love an imaginary heaven and use "I love God" as an excuse to get to that heaven, instead not saying but actually loving other people enough to stop as much suffering as possible, with no need to pray to God to stop the suffering, when he/she was the creator of hell, Satan, Adam, Eve and the tree of knowledge of good and evil, knowing the outcome would be suffering.

[disbarro]

Come on; you can't know that! If there were a god - capable of creating the universe in all its complexity - why do you think you can even have the slightest comprehension of "heaven" beyond exactly what your bible says? And if you no longer remember or care about those you truly loved, you're just a creature washed of your humanity by your "loving" god. Humanists do good because it's right, NOT because they want to get to heaven or avoid hell. So who's better? And who is better off?

[l337z0r]

lol @ christians and other religeons (except Buddhism)

[rea1001]

You so right. People spend there whole lifes hopeing in something that does not exist. Meanwhile, our Earth is dying, children and adults are suffering all over. There is so much WE Could DO, but instead most sit waiting for something to save them, instead of saving ourselfs....

[wes700]

The issue concerning whether people will be truly content in heaven with the knowledge that loved ones are in hell is often used by some of the preachers I've heard to spur an evangelical rally. In other words, "Go preach because you'll be sorry when you get to heaven and mom and dad aren't there". Yet on the other hand I've also heard that once people arrive in heaven, the glory of god will be so amazing they won't think about anything but god. Either way it doesn't make much sense.

[fromlight]

awesome

[solaphyde]

I would argue the soul is more real then everything around us in the physical universe. If we have eyes, and ears to percieve things, they still do no good without the soul to understand uniformity in the universe. Our souls directly interact with our physical make up. This is why we have a conscience, emotions, and thoughts which directly correspond to our everyday experiences. With these interactions with the soul, we would not consider any of it to be real.

[ultimatedude1]

the "soul" you are talking about is called the BRAIN.

[solaphyde]

Biblically heaven is not a utopia in human standards. A byproduct of heaven is that it is enjoyable. Yet, God's heaven is more like a kingdom. It is God's kingdom were He reigns for eternity. If our present loved ones have never entered to God's kingdom through rebith of the Holy Spirit by faith and repentence, then they are still haters of God and will ruin the joys of his kingdom. If everyone is worshipping God, and your mother is cursing him, then you wont want her there.

[Acriku]

Wow kristian321. I am amazed at how careless you are about another human being suffering for all eternity for simply not believing (or denying). I wonder if you can hold the same careless expression if your mother, father, or any loved one, were to share the same fate as the Infidel Guy.

[kristian321]

And the Christians get perfected bodies after death just as you will burn with your flesh in hell:

1Corinthians 15:42-53 and Philippians 3:21 (King James Bible). Perhaps you should read the Bible again? Start with the gospel of John and read to Revelation in a King James Bible.

[espoac]

Well the reason he puts so much time into talking about something he doesn't believe is because he is trying to blindfold off the eyes of all the blind followers of Christianity, Islam etc. You should not be so angry(you will burn with your flesh in hell) in your replies hostility is not a good breeding ground for open forums of discussion. Oh and btw it doesn't make sense to respond with bible passages to someone who thinks they in no way hold absolutley no validity.

[kristian321]

And isn't it strange that you are spending this much time to attack something you don't believe in? You only have like 70 years left and you spend time on things you don't believe in? 2Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

[kristian321]

The thing is friend that sin requires punishment.

There's someone that took your hell, but since you reject him well then you justly go to hell to pay for your sins for eternity. But hey that's your choice, you whine and bitch about it or you can repent of your sins believe the gospel and you'll go to heaven and while you're at it you could win your mother and who else you spoke about in your vid.

[kristian321]

And no Adam and Eve is not in hell. Genesis 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

[ultimatedude1]

what?

[kristian321]

Here's the answer to your question:

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

and here's you:

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

[mRkOoLbRaNdOn]

It makes sense...and it would explain the whole idea of Hell and how people don't think a loving, caring God would put people in torture.

Please, get back to me somehow with your view on my stance. Lata, Brandon

[mRkOoLbRaNdOn]

Well I believe that 'poofing souls out of existence' is basically what God is actually going to do. The word Hell actually translates to 'pit.' I think that stands and meant for a grave.

In the time of Jeusus people used fire to get rid of everything. So I think the flames were symbolic. I think what hell actually means is that you are buried and your soul isn't resurected on Judgement Day. Your soul is erased from existence in 'flames'.

[Jmyise]

If only good souls will be resurrected on Judgement Day, what would they be judged for? If souls will be erased for existence, what did the omniscient God create them for in the first place?

[mRkOoLbRaNdOn]

Hey again, I had something to say about one of the points you made. You were asking why God wouldn't just poof the people who didn't follow Him out of existence. You asked what is the need for torture?

[otakursed]

ombob, that's great . . . kudos, never would have thought of THAT particular fast food jingle. Thought of the myriad(lol) denominations as the McDeities franchise, but that's meXD

[AnimTV]

Great information you have there ! Heaven is another hell.