CRONENBERG ON SHIVERS

[yohei72]

A smart guy and one of the more fascinating filmmakers on the planet - but I have to say I can't really get behind his rather narrow conception of what art is. Escapist entertainment can be great art and has nothing to be ashamed of when held up against more self-consciously "meaningful" or "subversive" work. Are, oh say, Shakespeare's "Much Ado About Nothing" or Buster Keaton's "The General" not real art because they're light and cozy and have crowdpleasing happy endings? (Oops, spoilers!)

[LemmyDecaution]

It's very interesting listening to him.

[professbongiorno]

What is this clip from?



[drakocarrion]

@professbongiorno it says film four at the end so i'd imagine its one of their filler interviews from a season of cronenberg movies or something like that. Film four being a channel in the UK & also a production studio.

[professbongiorno]

What is this clip from?

[professbongiorno]

what documentary is this clip from?



[ExtremeBogom]

He reminds me of Noam Chomsky.

[int1901]

it is a good family movie,.. expropriate for kids of veracious young age with Ephesian. I agrees to be a very educated science Cuvier for old people also.

[Lewis1key]

The quintessential low budget horror film!

Christ he even got the Queen of Horror Barbara Steele naked in a swimming pool.

Cronenberg is a bad man!

[Ashloomis]

I like David Cronenberg, but this movie was kind of stupid. I think the Brood was his first good movie, and from there he just kept getting better. Videodrome is his masterpiece in my opinion.

[sparkyinbath]

I found this film really disturbing. Cronenberg is a master of body horror.

[Alexsy82]

the main thing that strikes me about david cronenberg is that he is really *wise.*

[tapesan09]

Hooray for his video essay on his 1st theaterical film, THEY CAME FROM WITHIN! Great cult movie that is so shocking so gory it is on my top cult movie list with RABID, which he also did after this film. Great filmmaker! :)

[blueriderccx]

God, this film would cause so much uproar LMFAO. Does anyone remember the scene where there are two children who are almost naked being walked as if they were dogs?

What's scary is that in theory, this sort of thing works *gulps*. It was a scary film though.

[AValidMember]

i enjoy retro movies a lot and the story is okay but the movie itself was kinda boring

[Peatman]

Is there anywhere where Shivers can be seen online?

[HELOmynameisJUSTIN]

@Peatman I think fearnet has it cuz I saw an AD for it on a video. And that's what brought me here!

[tropicvibe]

This is a pretty crazy movie, if you've seen it. Btw, I read somewhere that when he shot this movie, he didn't even know technical film making terms. The story is sick, kinda like hordes of zombies roaming around but instead of hungering for flesh, well, they do want flesh but in a different way, lol

[tapesan09]

@tropicvibe yes, it was a bizarre explotation movie by Cronenberg back then. It said it was like NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD meets INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (1956) except filled with sex.

[KapiteinFuckingRob]

sorry, i did not mean story. the story is sick :D

[KapiteinFuckingRob]

they have to redo this movie . like, they have to make the movie with better effects and a better story thats sick :D then you will make much much money.

[KazuoKiriyama666]

I'd actually argue this is one of his best concepts ever. I mean, how profound (and original) is the actual plotline? Incredibly. It was so far ahead of its time. It's not my favourite of his works, but definitely up there.

[Skulldini]

True, visual efects in movies have since become more elaborate, but still I finde that this films efects suit it,..those little turd phalluses slithering about and emerging from mouthes. What efects artist worked on this film, do you hapen to know?

[cadotmolin]

@Skulldini yo momma

[Skulldini]

By "amazing fx" you mean computer animated stuff right? That stuff is actualy starting to look pretty phony to me anymore. The efects in this flick are alright. Theyr adequate.

[pnkrk244]

I like this movie a lot. The thing with Cronenberg is, even back then, things like the design of the parasites was a conscious decision. So when someone says "it looks like a turd", I think, well, in the books The Shape of Rage and Cronenberg on Cronenberg, he says they were designed to look fecal and phallic, so you're just confirming that it was a successful effect. For all the low budget, Shivers had ideas, a lot of them. It isn't perfect, but I think it's a really good film.

[iamcasihart]

Exactly! I agree. Cronenberg is quite brilliant, in my opinion. Shivers is NO exception. I have seen it four times now and it is more effective with each viewing. I love horror/sci-fi from the 70's so much.

[Michaelpreetz]

This is quite a trash movie, to me.

BTW, Cronenberg is a master.

[ollie370]

great movie to watch with the whole family!!!!

[YouKnowItzTTime81]

@ollie370 not with all the nudity

[rodrigoraulsuarez]

I have respect for Cronenberg and I think he says interesting things, but he could admit the movie has some trash in it. The scene where the parasit goes from one throat to the next is really bad. I can get why the wife of the parasited doctor accep a lesbian treatment from a friend whitout a little surprise. The movie is strange at the begining but becomes cheaper and cheaper as you keep looking.

[bouncysmile]

gonna watch a horror and fall asleep :)

[loveupskirts]

me too, but i aint gonna fll asleep.=)

[bouncysmile]

haha i does look like a killer turd

[bouncysmile]

man i have to see this.

[manphibian84]

Anyone know where this is from?

[TemplarReturns]

I would love to talk Cronenberg and hear what he has to say on a variety of issues in film. I like the answers he gives to most of these questions. Very cool guy it seems.

[S1lentScream]

Face leaping action! Oooooh yeah!

[NorthernTrevor]

cunt

[BewareOfMyEgo]

BODY HORROR!!!!

[gialloman22]

great intro from region 2 dvd.

[Sandbag209]

KILLER TURD 2:16

[regularperson46]

Can't a piece of film/art be subversize without gratuitous scenes of human flesh being mangled and destroyed?

[hanshotfirst1138]

Fascinating guy, fascinating points of view.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Is this from a DVD somewhere?

[MrBlindPenguin]

Orgy of the Blood Parasites? Yeah I would've gone with that title lol.

[realeimperobritannic]

É incrivel que com pouco dinheiro diretores

como ele, John Carpenter, Tobe Hooper, Wes Craven e outros conseguiram fazer filmes bem critativos, diferente dos filmes de 'terror' de hoje que se gasta muito com pouco conteudo

[laralila22]

j'adore ce mec et tout ce qui fait !!

[Tegenaria]

Never actually seen Shivers. Wish he had used spiders, I love spiders! ;)

Its been said that each eprson swallows about 100 spiders in their life time....

[sonicstep]

Funny, I have considered spiders entering my mouth while I'm asleep at night.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Yet another film which cries out for a DVD release.

[smp32]

It is so rare to see him talk about his earler films..he simply does`nt talk about them...so this is a bit of a coup.

[TerribleTaz25]

one of the most amazing directors ever!

[Mastercheng]

Great find, thanks for posting

[econous]

Serious artist? lol.

[danrimage]

Why is he not a serious artist? A film maker who has invented his own genre and consistently made fascinating movies for over 30 years? Whether you like his art or not, he fits the definition of serious artist perfectly.

[robj200735]

No doubt about it. Cronenberg is a visionary. He wrote some really creepy fiction in college, I'd like to read some of it.

[steinerredeemed]

he's a very serious artist. He presaged AIDS by 6 years when he made this film. I knew when I stumbled into this thing one night that a new filmmaker to note had been born.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Cheap production values, but the overall vision in Shivers is fascinating.

[tommy68jesus]

he also looked ahead and saw that cheap cable tv would show nothing but explicit gore and porn like in videodrome

[drwalpurgis]

Bit of class.