Eisenhower reacts to integration

[MasterWooten]

Maybe he could have been completely irresponsible and urged blacks and their allies to get violent with regards to civil rights so that there would have been a massive backlash and bloodletting on the streets.

See when you're responsible for the rule of law and people's safety urging "rock out with your cock out" is NOT the way to go. Rather one MUST urge cautious measured approaches!

Ike was right!

[dman1311974]

100% RIGHT

[cosmicforums]

Watch as Einsenhowers spine turns to mush..either that or he is patently racist

[ForzaJersey]

@cosmicforums All humans are racist, even if the deny it. Bigotry is the real issue. Ike was no bigot, he integrated the Little Rock Schools for heaven's sake with Federal Troops! The man was not a racist or a slouch on Civil Rights.

[cosmicforums]

@ForzaJersey - thats funny, you suggest Ike was no slouch on civil rights, yet right here is video evidence of him slouching on civil rights issues.

Did you not even watch the video?

[williwo]

@cosmicforums This isnt Slouching....I question whether YOU watched it. Ike was saying that you have to make this kind of transfer slowly and carefully....and he was RIGHT. He was President at a time where Racism was much more prevelant. As President, you have to deal with matters like this carefully.....not recklessly. He knew that a quick integration would probly lead to savage riots and deaths, possibly worse than what came in the 60's. This isnt slouching, its carefully calculated leadership

[cosmicforums]

@williwo - It very much is slouching. rights are rights. He should have stood strong and tall for the rights of people based solely upon their skin color. Come on man. How would you like to live you life as a secon class citizen?! Stop making excuses and point out where back bone was needed, but became conveniently soft in the face of politics. It is not reckless. Stop making excuses for this man.

[williwo]

@cosmicforums Why dont you wake the hell up and stop being so damn naive?? Was sending FEDERAL troops to that school being conveniantly soft? Huh? Was it? Come on man yourself. I dont hear you criticizing FDR or Truman, who did absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to help the race issue. They stayed silent. Yet you're blasting a man who actually tried to do something. What hypocrisy. The President is the President...not a Civil Rights leader. He does not have a magic wand. IKE was Right

[ForzaJersey]

@williwo Amen!

[cosmicforums]

@williwo - FDR and Truman DID slouch on equal rights just as bad as Eisenhower...but this is a video of Eisenhower, so I would obviously not mention them. I blast a man who had a chance to show backbone and stand up for what was right and true, and his back bone turned to jelly and he slouched on equal rights JUST LIKE FDR and Truman did.

[williwo]

@cosmicforums Why is it that u CONTINUE to ignore the FEDERAL troops sent to Little rock? Was that SLOUCHING? I think not. Did FDR or Truman ever do such a thing? NO. Saying that Eisehower ignored the situation as much as FDR and Truman is just flat out dishonest. As I said before....he did more about the situation than any President since Grant

[cosmicforums]

@williwo - WOW! He sent federal troops to little rock. FDR also sent federal troops to protect striking workers. Eisenhower and FDR both still did many bad things, such as war, profiteering, etc. FDR at least tried to put forward a second bill of rights which would have done FAR better than Eisenhowers weak, WEAK spine.

watch?v=effDfpKYcVo

[cosmicforums]

@williwo - That second bill of rights, mind you, would have helped ALL Americans, black and white, in the long run. But congress shot it down.

Do you care to scream at me again? Or will you make more excuses.

I remind you that I still find FDR a tyrant, but only just as much as Eisenhower.

[williwo]

@cosmicforums Yawn......Yet you CONTINUE to ignore the Federal troops sent to Little Rock

[ForzaJersey]

@cosmicforums Have you ever heard of context. You are completely lack even basic common knowledge that Eisenhower was a key White leader in the Civil Rights Movement. Even Kennedy annoyed Dr. King for dragging his feet on Civil Rights, or a slouch if you prefer. Next time you post first try studying the real history of the period so you don't look like an ignorant condescending ass.

[cosmicforums]

@ForzaJersey - I dont care what you say, or your judgements upon me...all I see is a "president of the 'free' world" making excuses for why blacks and minorities cant share that freedom. I also see YOU making excuses for that failed leader's excuses. Kennedy ALSO drug his feet on the race issues, and he should be looked down upon just as well.

[ForzaJersey]

@cosmicforums And what have you done on the issue other than casting judgement upon these men from on high? What are your excuses for not ending all racism and bigotry? Please tell us all your infinite wisdom, and teach the ways to perfection that you obviously are an expert. Looking down upon others, is the act of a small mind. Well, since you clearly know it all, I will no longer disturb your clearly superior world view. Good bye and happy trails!

[glitchiker1]

JFK was one of the finest presidents that this nation has ever known. He was trying to put this country back together where Lincoln left off. Within 7 days of each other EO11110 was put forth first by JFK, and then presidential proclamation 3542 came after that. Kennedy was rogue it appeared trying to cure the problems of the US.

[glitchiker1]

The present has definitely proven this statement to be true. What makes it true is the assassination of JFK. An over reach of the states is only as good as the good president in office. George Wallace can be appreciated in many ways for standing up for state sovereignty. His stance on integration changed later in his life. This statement from Ike is so amazingly right! Truly impressive.

[gervasepoulden]

'I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice... who paternalistically beleives he can set a timetable for another man's freedom.'

- Martin Luther King, Letter from a Birmingham Jail, 1963.

[MasterWooten]

@gervasepoulden Without "order" though in the quest for justice you get the reign of terror and then Napoleon, which was France's experience with trying to violently force change. Unless you have the ohysical means to destroy the old order (blacks in the 1950s and 1960s did not) then you need order only so that your rights can be esnhrined in law and enforced by the courts and law enforcement. Either that or you have a civili wa and hope to God after the bloodletting your side wins.

[williwo]

@gervasepoulden Nice try.....but Eisenhower was not just some Activist like King. But he was a Strategist in the truest since of the word. He knew what he was talking about....and he knew the best way to get there. Plus i am a shaky on MLK. I respect wat he did in the movement.....but he had a sadestic dark side that was disturbing. even close friends attested to this, and someone close to him confirmed that he had beat up a Prostitute the day he was killed.....not cool

[poitrenaud]

Eisenhower's key words, here were: "Laws" and "Sensative" and he is correct.

One cannot Fast Track Progress by enacting "laws"; and certainly no one would argue that wrongs of segregation. He certainly was not advocating any resistence to enacting that which needed to be done. But, remember who he is. And what he was. He was a Masterful General, and tremendous General; and all prudent men, wise men, understand the necessity for patience and time.

That was the thurst of his words.

[GGE47]

Abraham Lincoln was opposed to slavery,but was a segregationist.In those Lincoln-Douglas debates he was horrified at the idea of the races mixing.

[xexixk]

@GGE47 Lincoln was simply a man of his time - most would have likely shared his view. Much like Thomas Jefferson's thoughts about women in politics - the idea seemed to horrify him.

[avncamargo]

A true American leader.

[12Aggiefan]

Eisenhower just won some southern states in the 1952 election and was hoping for more it was all poltics. In his person life he deplored racism, discrmination and bigtory. But he did say the appointment of Cheif Justice Warren was one of the worst decisions he ever made!

[dadecountyhustler305]

Well 40 years later we all know that de-segregation was a bad idea...

[TheGent2]

@dadecountyhustler305 : Speak for yourself. And who exactly are the other we? I just like keeping the ignorant where I can see them.

[fishhead06]

Sadly timid.

[harj2009]

so the man who defeated Nazism....says this about blacks..............

and if he was alive today hes be saying the same thing about muslims

[AlabamaConfederacy]

I would like to interview all those dam liberals who fought for intergration now. I would like to know where they live and how they feel now. Anyone find it funny how liberals are the last ones to want live around negroes and muzzies yet preach tolerance. Look at where all the people on MSNBC live today. Tell me do you see any diversity.

[HNK222]

@AlabamaConfederacy As a proud white progressive liberal (ie. not a narrow-minded, morally bankrupt, war-on-christmas rightwinger) I live in an upscale area of notheren New Jersey that has a large mixed population of whites, blacks, hispanics, jews, christians (the real kind, not the race-baiters) and even muslims (gasp!). Like most liberals, I wouldn't want to live in an area that was all-white, uneducated, and republican... You were saying?

[AlabamaConfederacy]

@HNK222

Chances are you aren't white. But most liberals would never live in a black area. Hispanic or Asian is okay but if you are white then I venture to guess that your neighborhood is probably more white than anything else. But the negroes you live around are upscale uppity negroes not the average negro (lower middle class-poverty). Most non-negroes move out of an area once it becomes to negro because the negroes will bring their real culture with them. JUST WAIT AND SEE.

[TheGent2]

@AlabamaConfederacy Your bitterness (and cowardice toward anyone outside of your small range of vision) is showing. A newsflash to you and that "state's rights" promoting idiot from Mississippi - Eric Cantor: The Civil War is over. You lost. Get over it.

[AlabamaConfederacy]

@TheGent2

Im seeing what negroes, illegals, muzzies, and jews are doing to this once great nation everyday. They are destroying it. The vast majority of negro neighborhoods are crime filled trash holes and most negroes that are in high positions are only there because of affirmative action.

[loyaldude10]

@AlabamaConfederacy ---but they're not ruining it as much as if racist, ignorant, morally and intellectually inferior people such as yourself were in charge or more populous. Thankfully you and your ilk are small in numbers

[xaviqaz]

@HNK222 Politics and race? In this election Democrats have done worse among whites (37%) than Republicans among latinos (38%) and asians (40%)

[TheGent2]

@xaviqaz : A sign that public education needs to be retooled. In truly religious schools Jesus' message is very clear. And woe betide the so-called christians (the small "c" is deliberate, in their case) that fail to heed His words.

[AlabamaConfederacy]

Negro intergration was the worse the mistake this nation made since not returning those people to the shores of Africa.

[rivmikant]

@AlabamaConfederacy trololololololoooooo!

[gervasepoulden]

This was the classic excuse used to stifle the movement for civil rights. I respect Ike for other reasons, but if we had listened to these kind of arguments, injustice, segregation and outright discrimination would have continued and black people would have suffered even more in the past fifty years than they did.

[AlabamaConfederacy]

@gervasepoulden

Negroes did not suffer back then it was the liberal elite that put that in their heads that they were suffering. Now today negroes are getting into colleges and schools with humans who they can not compete with mentally so they wine and complain. I go to the university of Alabama and after every final I take I stay after to watch the negroes line up to give the teachers excuses on why they couldn't complete the essay and fail the course.

[HoGraz]

@gervasepoulden I can see that, but even when Carter was in office they didn't want to unsettle things too much. We did have riots and chaos years after which is important to take note. However I have to sympathize with the people who were victims of the lack of legal rights and suffered because of it. Basically truth is truth and you HAVE to go with the law. If there's an unjust law it has to be fixed.

[megagagnon1]

@gervasepoulden Integration was a failure. Eisenhower was absolutely right and we're more balkanized now because of the residual resentment caused by pushing something onto people who weren't ready. When you wash dishes, you put them in the sink and let them soak for awhile, loosens the hold of the crusties. Same principle here.

[WinchesterMod94]

@gervasepoulden General Eisenhower was the one who first proposed the civil rights act and it was turned down by a democrat controled senate. in this clip he is saying that they shouldent push to much to fast instead to pass a little at a time to give the country to adjust. like he said it was a sensitive subject and unfortunately still is.

[loyaldude10]

@gervasepoulden ---agree. Ike was a great man, a very good Presdient, but was unsympathetic to the civil rights movement. But JFK, while more sympathetic to movement, also did not push a civl rights bill quickly, and implored black leaders to be patient, for fear he would lose southern votes

[williwo]

@loyaldude10 Saying Ike was unsympathetic towards the Civil rights movement is simply not true. He took a bolder step on the issue than any President since Grant, who destroyed the KKK for 50 years. Ike sent FEDERAL protection to accompany Black students for God's sake. I dont recall FDR or Truman ever getting involved like that. THEY were unsympathetic toward the racism issue. Anybody that calls Ike a racist or a slouch on Racism, should be smacked........very hard. He was no slouch

[williwo]

@gervasepoulden Not true....did you not get the part about SLOWLY? What Ike said was correct. If you move too QUICKLY, you threaten to destroy the nation itself.....then there would be no Law and Order....then Racism would go COMPLETELY unchecked. The Civil rights movement was not a quick process. Dont forget, Ike was the one who sent cops to give federal protection to those black girls when they transferred to a white school. At least he addressed the issue, unlike Truman and FDR

[MasterWooten]

@gervasepoulden No, it makes sense. Forcing people a majority to accept a minority as we've seen in Yugoslavia and Rwanda leads to bloodshed and no progress. You need education and understanding and time that is if you ever want the two sides to actually like each other and live with each other.

[OzzyFan87]

He was right. Look at what our schools have become today.

[mustang633NY]

sounds about right ike... He warned us to take it ez and use education and understanding to help the races get along... well said Ike... integrate but do it cautiously as to not start trouble. A little side note - as a person with friends of all backgrounds, i know that racism is almost always two sided. French and English were at war on and off for centuries... who was to blame? Both of them!

[ToxicOdiousOne]

We must not go too far too fast. We must not cause trouble. Our goals must be the supposed benefits of such actions.

[Scharfschutzen1]

He was a hater himself . Google Eisenhower death camps and read.

[alabamagirl74]

Well said Mr. Eisenhower! You were right! The blacks are the racists now, but the whites get the blame.

[BeAGentlaman]

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[TheForceMultiplier]

Eisenhower is a Jew. He is personally responsible for starving millions of German troops. I suggest searching: Eisenhower's Death Camps

Considering the Jews founded the NAACP and didn't allow a Black leader of it for 60 years, Eisenhower's statements and sinister actions against captured German men are no surprise.

[PsychicKnife]

Obama is also a Jew, and so is Hitler and Marie Osmond and Pat Buchanan. (psssst, take your meds, man, and take the aluminum foil off your head.)

[xXCIENFUEGOSXx]

Hitler was jew!!! hahahahaha.... those nazis deserved what they got.. and some saved their murdering asses... dude.. which planet do you live on... hahaha..

[danolson68]

Believe it or not, Hitler's maternal grandmother was Jewish. History doesn't emphasize this fact enough, in my opinion.

[A736staz]

never been proven.

[esb84]

History doesn't emphasize it because it hasn't been proven.

[insaneterrain]

@danolson68- but what does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

[bryanreed1]

@danolson68 that's bullshit, history doesn't emphasis it because it's not true.

[Da55Moose]

I really hope this guy was trying to be funny.

[qnzvixen]

it was interesting how he corrected himself when he said trying to go "too far" into we should wait in changing laws. Really showed on where he stood, which was did not believe in integration until all hell broke loose. Our laws and constitution was craft to be changed if all agreed as a people. Showed how ignorance shaped the nation, so what IS HE TALKIN ABOUT. it showed how ignorance shaped the nation, or fright from not being excepted by WHITES... So not a leader

[aDeletedAccount]

Imperial Wizard Eisenhower

[Gregusan]

Wow, he was totally right. And look, nobody is even viewing this. Look what happened to education in the US after integration: Steady decline until today we are the WORST IN THE WORLD. I bet if you find the stats on our scores when this was made, we may have been number one!

[hamshow]

Maybe that's what the British should have said to the Colonies before the American Revolution... IDIOT!!!

[gotchrist333]

well This was in 1957.....There was no Iraqi freedom War.

[thewah]

That's a pretty good point. Huge social change like integration after slavery and before civil rights was a delicate process. Still is, although I'd have to say we've gotten it down pretty good.

[stihlman37]

LMAO where was he durring the discussions on Iraq?