DJ Spooky - dropping knowledge

[CrisEsko]

information is something you know,therefore knowledge

[CrisEsko]

@CrisEsko spooky is rite



[NileFett]

"What is information" is the answer. Information holds people, culture, and technology together. I don't think he's asking what information is. But information is everything processed in our minds through all of our senses. Everything is matter but matter doesn't become information until it is processed through ones brain. Information requires a third party, being us. ya but anyway who cares

[Troskyi]

piss poor lecture. what is this guy doing on the faculty of egs...

i've seen real DJs and take theory and philosophy to music at egs but this guy only drops names and pseudo-intellectual one liners.

[Troskyi]

mouse droppings!

[pleasewaittovoteagai]

I recommend Ray Kurzweil's website for such inquiries. Avoid the douches like John Searle, and listen to Drexler, Kurzweil, Freitas, Merkle, etc...

[reviewitorhateit]

information is the manifestation of ideas.

[nepalnt21]

btw... thanks, paul... this really got me thinking.

[nepalnt21]

information - an algorithm or set of algorithms whose function is to carry out a certain task. in the case of people to people, language is an agreed upon set of symbols that will allow the receiver to reproduce the desired idea in his or her own head.

am i stretching here?

[moosemooseson]

@nepalnt21 maybe I'm just lazy, but i don't see how information has to carry out a certain task. a person is given a lot of information, but doesnt have to do anything with it. whether people act upon all information given to them is still a question of human nature, not of information itself. at least, that's how I see it currently.

[nepalnt21]

@moosemooseson well the person may not choose to do anything with it, but wasnt the information designed for a specific task in the first place? even a schizophrenic person rambling incoherently as he walks down the street intends for this language to mean something. the 0's and 1's in your computer are there to carry out tasks, but you are the one that chooses to use them. at least that is how i feel about it.

[moosemooseson]

@nepalnt21 I?m looking at information as anything, not just something a person is purposefully giving out. I'm considering all the information we take in from our surroundings as well. So we're talking about different things.

Going back to your original comment, I'll have to have a nice think about what you said. I'm not sure about calling it an algorithm (or more than one), but I do see in this case that it is intended to carry out a task

[nepalnt21]

@moosemooseson

its a really tough question... i doubt there is one right answer to it, either.

i am in no way an expert in physics, but i believe everything in this universe is made of information.

[moosemooseson]

@nepalnt21 well, i have heard that physicists break the universe down thus: matter is energy, and energy is information. but I can't find anyone's exact words on that, so I'm not sure. the essential problem in all these questions is that we are only as good as our perception. everything is information to us, but we really dont know what everything actually is. we create models to explain our perception. A basic example would be that things exist in 3 dimensions, through which we move.

[72HourBurnCycle]

Knowledge is the influx and the outflux, the dawning of enlightenment....the sunset of confusion.The riddle disemboweled...x-ray eyes for laboratory rats, the timex watch that ticks all the right boxes.

Most of all,it is all.

[aphexpusher]

technologx?

[princeofunivers]

yes technology ... i think so ??

[djraven00]

the function of info is to acheive 100% wisdom...given each individual has their own potential intellect at birth. in that case, info is a unit of the full percentage of an individual's wisdom(W). shot in the dark here...

W(info) = (intell/knowlege)(info)??

[ZwolfZki]

What the hell is this?

Oh, I see... is there some kind of subliminal message here?

How about:

People - Clubs - Drugs?

[redrum12]

technologx

[reverendslaughter]

Information can't have an "is" tacked onto it.

[burtflaxton]

information is free, education is paid for.

[Mousse4200]

kinda true though

[moonrawk]

Spooky's a great DJ but he comes off as a pseudo-intellectual ass philosopher.

[slonopochron3000]

agreed

[theblunted]

Sad but true. One of my favorite producers/dj's but not quite sure about this "and now you know" PSA thing...

[Gmancrap]

You mean like all musicians. 

[tintinbofin]

@moonrawk Uh, that's because he teaches music married with philosophy (Adorno, Hegel, etc.) under the Media and Communication Program at the European Graduate School in Saas-fee, Switzerland which lists Slavoj Zizek, Alain Badiou, Judith Butler, Michael Hardt, and Jean Baudrillard (+) among other progressive social theorists and philosophers. Of course anyone who hasn't read any of these people in school or through self-education wouldn't be impressed.