@talkingfortruth Yep, I am a 5th Generation Jehovah's Witness. The first video on my page is my testimony out of the organization. Feel free to watch it :)
@Bibl3Thumper I've heard it's best when dealing with JW is #1 show love, #2 discredit the Watchtower and #3 focus on Christ and salvation. Would you consider that the best approach?
@talkingfortruth Couldnt agree more. Ministry is so much more then "tracting" people. Jesus spent 3 years ministering to 12 individuals. He gave special attention to them and nurtured their faith. Ministry is getting involved in the persons life, being there for them, showing love. Sometimes, people need to see Jesus through you. When you care, you show love, when you love, it brings life to your message.
They know that people are watching true Christians very critically and that to a great extent they judge the entire congregation and the good news by the minister’s appearance as a representative of the congregation.-- this is right out the wt so yes jw's dont wear beards, if you did you would clearly be drawing attention away from the good news. so dont need to be in the elder hand book its right in the wt for all to see.
) In recent years in many lands a beard or long hair on a man attracts immediate notice and may, in the minds of the majority, classify such a person undesirably with extremists or as rebels against society. God’s ministers want to avoid making any impression that would take attention away from their ministry or hinder anyone from listening to the truth.
Come on Brock!!!!! The Bible doesn't say there are 2 Great Crowds!!!! The Watchtower Does However. That should be good enough! Yes, the Bible says the great Crowd is in Heaven, but you need to understand, you see,....we have these men in Brooklyn, and.....
Wow good video! I watched the full thing. Good job! I knew the 144,000 were of Isreal, but I ddin't realize how baseless the JW's counter arguements were!
why not make a video "how to witness to a muslim"? i mean there only 7million jw's and over 2 BILLION muslims who need to hear about Jesus? widen out brock ur videos are too narrow ur so focused on one small group of mislead christians what about the billions being overlooked? dont you think its time to mix it up? or are u still captive to the witnesses and the GB? Even michael didnt bring an accussation to the devil about moses body, so why do it to fellow christians? move on my brother.
@urinfamousr79 you're committing the fallacy of thinking that one's sole evangelistic efforts are what is done on the internet. Unless you know Brock personally, you shouldn't assume what he does or doesn't do outside of YouTube.
@urinfamousr79 My internet videos are for struggling Jehovah's Witness. The reason I do this is because thats what I am called by God to do. Minister to struggling Witnesses. However since I spend less then 5% of my time on youtube, I do go to school for pastoral arts. I would say I spend most of my time ministering to Mormons, and simple unbelievers. (Athiests and agnostics) If God calls me to talk about other religious faiths in the future I will be open to this.
@urinfamousr79 I would consider BT a JW expert. JW's are a cult, not some nice little christian sect. JWs are conducting 7million book studies. And your not factoring in the millions who are shunned/left the WatchTower that would like to learn how to get their families out which is in the millions. I'm quit glad, quite frankly, people like him exist, and wish there were more doing his work.
@SpecialPioneerSmerf again you didnt answer the question of the BILLIONS trapped in islam over 2 BILLION who don even know about christ over what 14million at most jw's idk maybe my math skills are bad but i think 2 billion is bigger than 14million =< so why not the great concern over the larger who havent even heard of christ or simply reject the idea of him being the messiah. i mean why focus only on jw's in the MANY videos, i mean arent their struggling muslims,catholics, mormons?
Does God only ever call to the largest group of people? That way, there would only ever be people trying to help Muslims. JWs are a much smaller group, and there are far fewer people trying to reach them.
@ExLuedenscheider are you kidding me far fewwer ppl trying to reach jw's than muslims? youtube is filled with jw videos. at the very least jw's believe in jesus and accept the ransom muslims totally reject the concept! so whose in the greater need to learn? those who reject the ransom or those semi confused by it?
@urinfamousr79 Sorry, I was talking about the real world, not the YouTube world. Go ahead and reach out to the Muslim people on YouTube if you feel there is an inbalance, I'm sure no-one will stand in your way.
@SpecialPioneerSmerf heeey papa smerf long time, hows it going lol. i do it in person i actually used to go to the mosque right around the corner to witness to them. got me a qur'an while i was there too just so i could do some extra research. shoot they even offered to teach me arabic! so i always do inperson talk to those in the muslim community or at school. but i dont pick out a select group and repeatedly make runs at them cause i was once one of them and now im QQing online.
@urinfamousr79 : May I interject my opinion? I've been asked a similar question; Why do you feel the need to debate or discuss with the Witnesses so much? All I can say is that it is a passion for me, it is a calling from the Lord and it is what I know and do best. I've discussed issues with Muslims in the past and found I was out of my league spiritually because I have no passion, interest or background involving them. I leave it to those who do.
@urinfamousr79 Yeah, I figured somebody would make a comment on that. However this video is for Christians as a resource, not Witnesses :) Thanks for the input though.
@Bibl3Thumper Hi Bibl3Thumper, had a goatee for my entire carreer as a witness. I even auxilary pioneered with it. On return visits I many times did not take my bag so you are not false representing.
@SaintBertholdt i wonder about the aux pioneering seeing as the elder book says any man having a beard wouldnt be taken judicial action against but could NEVER have privilidges, aux pioneering would be one of them. that goes for at least the US area i know some in oher countries could have them.
@urinfamousr79 Hi there, you wrote: "i wonder about the aux pioneering seeing as the elder book says any man having a beard wouldnt be taken judicial action against but could NEVER have privilidges"
I've searched through "Pay attention to yourselves and all the flock" and I could not find a single reference to a beard. Perhaps you can enlighten me. I never got a single comment about my goatee.
@SaintBertholdt Today Christian ministers, like the early Christians, are concerned with neatness and cleanness, but they strive to dress inconspicuously, so that their appearance does not in any way detract from the dignity or the effectiveness of the message they bear. (2 Cor. 6:3, 4)
@urinfamousr79 Hi there, I see you now try to quote scripture but you originally claimed that there was information about beards in the elders manual, which there is absolutely not. You said I was a liar about auxilary pioneering based upon that claim. My original statements stand. I was an auxilary pioneer with a goatee and I rarely took bags on return visits. Good luck calling people who you've just met a liar, Liar. Elder's manual my big fat bottom.
@Bibl3Thumper, your performance as a manipulative, double-speaking, smarmy, condescending, know-it-all JW is flawless. You surpass the use of props and a clean shave! Don't listen to urin. Critics are critics because they cannot perform. :P
@urinfamousr79 Hi there, you wrote: "u didnt shave! u know jw's are clean shaven and i dont see a bag, false representation!" - I had a goatee for my entire carreer as a witness. I even auxilary pioneered with it. On return visits I many times did not take my bag so Bibl3Thumper is not false representing.
lol, I never noticed that Randy starts talking on his cell phone at the end. That is hilarious.
tofty17 3 months ago
i love the guy in the background
RBHILL300 1 year ago
Cut your beard off!!! HEATHEN!!!
Psa1mist9 1 year ago
is this a real encounter or a re-enactment?
talkingfortruth 1 year ago
@talkingfortruth This is a re-enactment, I am playing the part of a Jehovah's Witness. My friend David, is schooling me :)
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago
@Bibl3Thumper:
wow well you're very convincing. Excellent performance. Were you ever a JW?
talkingfortruth 1 year ago
@talkingfortruth Yep, I am a 5th Generation Jehovah's Witness. The first video on my page is my testimony out of the organization. Feel free to watch it :)
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago
@Bibl3Thumper I've heard it's best when dealing with JW is #1 show love, #2 discredit the Watchtower and #3 focus on Christ and salvation. Would you consider that the best approach?
talkingfortruth 1 year ago
@talkingfortruth Couldnt agree more. Ministry is so much more then "tracting" people. Jesus spent 3 years ministering to 12 individuals. He gave special attention to them and nurtured their faith. Ministry is getting involved in the persons life, being there for them, showing love. Sometimes, people need to see Jesus through you. When you care, you show love, when you love, it brings life to your message.
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago
The vied was good
icet615 1 year ago
love this video, great job
jackiefoster1981 1 year ago
Thanks for your work on this. Good job, I'll probably watch it again later.
bridgetazaz 1 year ago 2
@bridgetazaz Thank you :)
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago
They know that people are watching true Christians very critically and that to a great extent they judge the entire congregation and the good news by the minister’s appearance as a representative of the congregation.-- this is right out the wt so yes jw's dont wear beards, if you did you would clearly be drawing attention away from the good news. so dont need to be in the elder hand book its right in the wt for all to see.
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
) In recent years in many lands a beard or long hair on a man attracts immediate notice and may, in the minds of the majority, classify such a person undesirably with extremists or as rebels against society. God’s ministers want to avoid making any impression that would take attention away from their ministry or hinder anyone from listening to the truth.
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
I wish I had time and could sit and watch these...but man they are way too long.
WakeUpWitness 1 year ago
Come on Brock!!!!! The Bible doesn't say there are 2 Great Crowds!!!! The Watchtower Does However. That should be good enough! Yes, the Bible says the great Crowd is in Heaven, but you need to understand, you see,....we have these men in Brooklyn, and.....
TheSnarkyApologist 1 year ago
Wow good video! I watched the full thing. Good job! I knew the 144,000 were of Isreal, but I ddin't realize how baseless the JW's counter arguements were!
Consider me a new sub! :)
onceforgivennowfree 1 year ago
why not make a video "how to witness to a muslim"? i mean there only 7million jw's and over 2 BILLION muslims who need to hear about Jesus? widen out brock ur videos are too narrow ur so focused on one small group of mislead christians what about the billions being overlooked? dont you think its time to mix it up? or are u still captive to the witnesses and the GB? Even michael didnt bring an accussation to the devil about moses body, so why do it to fellow christians? move on my brother.
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 you're committing the fallacy of thinking that one's sole evangelistic efforts are what is done on the internet. Unless you know Brock personally, you shouldn't assume what he does or doesn't do outside of YouTube.
theapologeticfront 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 My internet videos are for struggling Jehovah's Witness. The reason I do this is because thats what I am called by God to do. Minister to struggling Witnesses. However since I spend less then 5% of my time on youtube, I do go to school for pastoral arts. I would say I spend most of my time ministering to Mormons, and simple unbelievers. (Athiests and agnostics) If God calls me to talk about other religious faiths in the future I will be open to this.
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago 4
@Bibl3Thumper plz explain what u referred to as "God's calling" how does he communicate these messages to you?
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 I would consider BT a JW expert. JW's are a cult, not some nice little christian sect. JWs are conducting 7million book studies. And your not factoring in the millions who are shunned/left the WatchTower that would like to learn how to get their families out which is in the millions. I'm quit glad, quite frankly, people like him exist, and wish there were more doing his work.
SpecialPioneerSmerf 1 year ago
@SpecialPioneerSmerf again you didnt answer the question of the BILLIONS trapped in islam over 2 BILLION who don even know about christ over what 14million at most jw's idk maybe my math skills are bad but i think 2 billion is bigger than 14million =< so why not the great concern over the larger who havent even heard of christ or simply reject the idea of him being the messiah. i mean why focus only on jw's in the MANY videos, i mean arent their struggling muslims,catholics, mormons?
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
Does God only ever call to the largest group of people? That way, there would only ever be people trying to help Muslims. JWs are a much smaller group, and there are far fewer people trying to reach them.
ExLuedenscheider 1 year ago
@ExLuedenscheider are you kidding me far fewwer ppl trying to reach jw's than muslims? youtube is filled with jw videos. at the very least jw's believe in jesus and accept the ransom muslims totally reject the concept! so whose in the greater need to learn? those who reject the ransom or those semi confused by it?
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 Sorry, I was talking about the real world, not the YouTube world. Go ahead and reach out to the Muslim people on YouTube if you feel there is an inbalance, I'm sure no-one will stand in your way.
ExLuedenscheider 1 year ago
@ExLuedenscheider huh lol?
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 Awesome! I'm looking forward to your many videos you will be uploading on your experiences with Muslims. ;)
SpecialPioneerSmerf 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 huh lol what?
ExLuedenscheider 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 How about you take up this torch yourself?
SpecialPioneerSmerf 1 year ago
@SpecialPioneerSmerf heeey papa smerf long time, hows it going lol. i do it in person i actually used to go to the mosque right around the corner to witness to them. got me a qur'an while i was there too just so i could do some extra research. shoot they even offered to teach me arabic! so i always do inperson talk to those in the muslim community or at school. but i dont pick out a select group and repeatedly make runs at them cause i was once one of them and now im QQing online.
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 you sound a lot like a guy named radoliz
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 We know ALL ABOUT Jesus. Thanks. We are the only ones on the earth faithully following him and obediently doing the work HE did.
Later.
TheMulder1981 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 Fellow Christians? Um. . . how about false Christs?
propagandatechniques 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 : May I interject my opinion? I've been asked a similar question; Why do you feel the need to debate or discuss with the Witnesses so much? All I can say is that it is a passion for me, it is a calling from the Lord and it is what I know and do best. I've discussed issues with Muslims in the past and found I was out of my league spiritually because I have no passion, interest or background involving them. I leave it to those who do.
I think this is similar to how Brock feels?
abbyguy 1 year ago
sigh
carehappens 1 year ago
Although in some countries, and even Alaska its ok to have beards. So really..... (Lets just say this demonstration took place in Alaska)
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago
@Bibl3Thumper lol well how come ur not in an igloo =P
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
u didnt shave! u know jw's are clean shaven and i dont see a bag, false representation!
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 Yeah, I figured somebody would make a comment on that. However this video is for Christians as a resource, not Witnesses :) Thanks for the input though.
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago
@Bibl3Thumper Hi Bibl3Thumper, had a goatee for my entire carreer as a witness. I even auxilary pioneered with it. On return visits I many times did not take my bag so you are not false representing.
SaintBertholdt 1 year ago
@SaintBertholdt i wonder about the aux pioneering seeing as the elder book says any man having a beard wouldnt be taken judicial action against but could NEVER have privilidges, aux pioneering would be one of them. that goes for at least the US area i know some in oher countries could have them.
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 Hi there, you wrote: "i wonder about the aux pioneering seeing as the elder book says any man having a beard wouldnt be taken judicial action against but could NEVER have privilidges"
I've searched through "Pay attention to yourselves and all the flock" and I could not find a single reference to a beard. Perhaps you can enlighten me. I never got a single comment about my goatee.
SaintBertholdt 1 year ago
@SaintBertholdt well i wonder how u atm have this book since its only available to elders
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@SaintBertholdt Today Christian ministers, like the early Christians, are concerned with neatness and cleanness, but they strive to dress inconspicuously, so that their appearance does not in any way detract from the dignity or the effectiveness of the message they bear. (2 Cor. 6:3, 4)
urinfamousr79 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 Hi there, I see you now try to quote scripture but you originally claimed that there was information about beards in the elders manual, which there is absolutely not. You said I was a liar about auxilary pioneering based upon that claim. My original statements stand. I was an auxilary pioneer with a goatee and I rarely took bags on return visits. Good luck calling people who you've just met a liar, Liar. Elder's manual my big fat bottom.
SaintBertholdt 1 year ago
@Bibl3Thumper, your performance as a manipulative, double-speaking, smarmy, condescending, know-it-all JW is flawless. You surpass the use of props and a clean shave! Don't listen to urin. Critics are critics because they cannot perform. :P
PublishingCult 1 year ago
@PublishingCult Yes, I found it chillingly realistic too.
ExLuedenscheider 1 year ago
@urinfamousr79 Hi there, you wrote: "u didnt shave! u know jw's are clean shaven and i dont see a bag, false representation!" - I had a goatee for my entire carreer as a witness. I even auxilary pioneered with it. On return visits I many times did not take my bag so Bibl3Thumper is not false representing.
SaintBertholdt 1 year ago
Just so that you all know, that guy in the gray sweater is David's Dad.
Bibl3Thumper 1 year ago