There are so many variations of Thor, and the battle conditions are important to determine who wins and loses. Thor summoned enough power to disable Galactus, and lift the Midgard Serpant, yet when he fought hand to hand against Hercules, it was a tie. Hercules gets easily beaten by Hulk during wwh, but Thor has beaten the Hulk(?) Superman beats Thor during the Avengers JLA cross over, but then Thor beats Doomsday? This is just like the WWE, who beats who doesn't depend on mere strength alone.
@calindor23 In many battles, Thor chooses to only use as much strength as his opponent - especially if that opponent was formerly (or still) a friend. He's commented on that himself. And there's plenty of evidence to support it. When we see such being proved are usually when he gets pissed off and stops holding back as much. Like in the "Ultron Unlimited" comics where he "teamed up" (took a back seat) with his teammates to beat ONE Ultron - but when they were surrounded, he got annoyed and... :)
Thor is the strongest marvel super hero. He's a God. He has his hammer. Many say that the hulk is stronger, but people don't take into account the two forms of the hulk, his mortal & immortal form. Thor is immortal & as stated in the comics his hammer has NO equal in the universe. Nothing that exists is stronger than his hammer (so the storyline goes) so therefore, he can defeat the hulk, because no matter how angry the hulk gets, the hulks power is no match to thors hammer.
he may be immortal but that doesnt make him stronger. I've seen mortals makes hash out of Thor. What about Graviton? What about Mantis? They're not gods and both put him out of action
Also, in Thor 153, we seen Donald Blake hold off Loki using a an extinguisher sdevice aying "Even an Asgardian cannot stand agianst a sudden blast of ether"
It all depends on the writer. For instance, if she wanted to, Susan Storm could kill Thor but opening up blood vessels to his brain
from what i have seen in cartoons thor always get hiss ass kicked by hulk!!! so why some people consider him the strongest!! i mean did they forget that superman exists?
@sallywatergun poor fanboy, hulk has NEVER defeated Thor. And Thor said that he couldn't beat NUL, not Hulk. The difference? Nul is a Hulk with a copy of Mjolnir and much more powers which resemble thor's powers. Thor has destroy onslaught's armor, not dented and Thor had no need to jean grey's help.
Sorry,if it was within him,he wouldn't need the hammer.I'm done commenting on this subject.You like Thor,great.I don't like heels that they portray can do everything.They are boring.
I have seen comics where Thor used hammer and still couldn't beat Hulk.Well,everyone continue to debate.I don't care and will just continue to read comics.
I like Thor,Hulk more,but face it,without his hammer,Thor isn't in the league as Hulk.It's all in the way the comic producer and artist want them in the book at that time.He used hammer and belt of power,still couldn't beat Exitar the Executioner.
LOL i did not see on marvel hulk defeat a celestial come on hulk fan fags the name the above all on thor can match those super super super beyond godly being on universe are saying me hulk can match the one above all hey even zeus kick hulk ass in 5 minutes thor can battle zeus entire year thor can crumble uru into dust and the sun hulk can smash 2 asteroid like the size of earth hey how bigger is the sun to the earth thor can crumble the sun so shut up hulk fan fags!
aww bologne. Latest Thor has S. Surfer cutting Thor up & giving him hell with his surfboard behind the back attack. If Surfer wanted to bring his full powers into play he could just snap his fingers and Thor plus hammer would dematerialize. Surfer & Galactus are two guys with powers much more advanced
@Piglatinsuperstar U forgot to mention Thor was wounded before his encounter with the Silver Surfer.And yet Silver Surfer couldn't bring down a wounded Thor.So Thor was handicapped in his fight with Silver Surfer.Thor also caused a big headache to Galactus when he did a speedblitz.The same speedblitz he did against Glory(a being with the power of 10,000 Gods and amped by the Chaos King).
u forgot to mention Galactus was in the middle of his fight w Odin and had his head turned when Thor coldcocked him. real brave isnt he?
anyways, Thor doesnt really have powers of his own and isnt much w/o his hammer. Surfer has many more powers and can not only destroy but create. The gods not on the same level as Galactus & Surfer
@Piglatinsuperstar whats this nonesense? Its Galactus. Thor hurt him. Period.
Without Mjolnir Thor still has control over the storm, the godblast, super strength, super speed (to a point), and is the most durable of the heralds.
Galactus can disintegrate Thor w just a randowm thought. he got the power transcendent. Thor just got a crude hammer like all other asgardians (clubs, swords, maces)
asgardians are tough, they strong but they arent really gods otherwise they wouldnt get old. Look at Odin!
@Fernando072295 In the one story Thor fought both Superman and Manhunter at the same time and defeated Manhunter in the fight, but only lost after he had been weaken fighting them both at once. Thor also easily defeated Doomsday the guy that killed Superman in one story.
@fugitivodoinferno When did Thor lift the whole universe? In Greek Mythology Atlas held up the sky whatever that is suppose to mean, did the norse have Thor do something similar?
@hydrolito After everything is explained, Thor prepares to kill the jotun, when they all suddenly vanish. Loki and Thor's assistant also impress the jotun, but I can't remember the details. All I can remember is that Thor's assistant is extremely fast. I can't remember his name though.
@hydrolito The giants explain that Thor had menaged to lower the sea level around Yggdrasil by drinking it, something they describe as utterly impressive. They also explain that when he thought he was lifting a dog, he was actually lifting the universe. Some versions instead say that the "dog" was Jormungand. Thor also did more, like splitting midgard with a swing of his hammer. [4]
@hydrolito The jotun master invites them to stay for the night. On the next morning, before they left, the jotun explain(dont ask me why) that they were trapped in an illusion. The meaning of each challenge is then described, and I can only remember some of them: the old woman was age itself, the goblet was linked to the endless sea around Yggdrasil, and guess what he lifted? The universe. His performance impressed the giants, who then said that he was indeed the strongest of all. [3]
@fugitivodoinferno And this tale is retold in the comics as well. The giant was Utgard-Loki, a mage giant of immense power... and it was the world serpent/Midgardswyrm/Jormungandr that he lifted and nearly ripped off the ocean floor - which would have wreaked havoc with the nine worlds (universe)
@hydrolito The jotun's master/boss says that if Thor wants to fight them, he got to prove himself first. The giants then give them some challenges. I can't remember all of the challenges, but from what I recall, Thor has to drink from a horn, fight against an old giant woman, and lift a dog. He "fails" at every challenge, and so do his assistant and Loki. Thor then declares he never felt more humiliated in his life. [2]
@hydrolito There is a norse tale where Thor is hunting giants(Jotun) with Loki and his [Thor's] assistant. They then come to a strange forest where, it seems, they are trapped in some kind of illusion. They then proceed to face the giants inside their stronghold in Jotunheim. The giants there(described as really massive and strong creatures) mock Thor, daring him to show his strenght. [1]
@hydrolito Yes, he nearly lifted the Midgard Serpent, which is a feat of impossible stature. He was stopped before he destroyed everything. This story is both a part of the myth and the comicbooks. In the myths (and some comics) the serpent has grown so large he encircles the world tree that contains "the universe" - which he would've destroyed with such a feat.
In one comic, he beat Drax the Destroyer WHILE Drax was wearing the power gem from the Infinity Gauntlet - THAT'S how powerful he is
@Camouflagentears in that comic book it says hulk was the strongest in the universe because he was at the peak of his rage and beat sentry who is the strongest after that there was Red Hulk who defeated thor and picked up his hammer, hulk defeated red hulk as well no question when hulk is at the peak of his anger he is the strongest there is.
@Camouflagentears Thor was dead when wwh was wrtitten, in fact in a what if Thor fight the green scar and stalemeted him with nothing but bare hands and hammer-strike (but Thor have much more powers). Rulk defeated even the Hulk but then Thor defeated Rulk not one but two times. And Hulk defeated Rulk only because he was weakened, Thor defeated and nearly killed a full-power Rulk. And recently the worthy thing had nearly killed Rulk, Thor killed the worthy thing with just one strike.
@Camouflagentears what any Hulk can do if Thor stop the time for him? Or transmute him in a helium cloud? These are the true powers of Thor (this and more than this), the true powers of Hulk? Nothing, he have nothing but brute force.
this is funny that you say thor is the strongest, i had some comic cards that said he is #3 .. #1 superman, #2 silver surfer, #3 thor , #4 hulk and i was discussing this about a week ago to a friend of mine who is a superhero junkie age 40 so i would would believe him and what it said on back of the cards before you .. nice song tho but its played out too much
@ucwwcu Old Wizard disagrees, and spells it out. Remember the Infinity Gauntlet, and the Power Gem? Thor beat Drax the Destroyer WHILE Drax had the power gem, AFTER decimating Beta Ray Bill *AND* Surfer - and then took the power gem for his own.
He's went toe to toe with the Celestials and had better showings than virtually anyone. He is SO powerful that he even gained an audience with Eternity itself. And he hasn't even begun to tap into the power/strength that is his birthright from his mom.
If that wouldn't be enought... thor wasn't actually created by marvel comics, I can say he's the first n oldest superhero, he was taken from the viking mitology, so he's also the oldest n most popular.
@theotherhalfoftheang actually the Thor mythology started in germania and spread to scandinavia afterwards (im from that neck of the woods).
also greek mythological heroes predate norse mythos,so in actuality thor is NOT the oldest "superhero".
Btw "The One Above All"(you know.....the one who spoke to FF and erased mr fantastics face,later spoke to peter parker while disguised as a homeless dude)isnt he the most powerful being in marvel????
@LeBearExtrordinare THNX FOR THE INFO ABOUT OTHERS ANCIENT SUPERHEROES, BUT I THINK U DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID, I SAID THAT THOR IS THE STRONGEST SUPER HERO IN MARVEL N DC COMICS, N YES HE IS BUT SUPERHEROES R NOT THE STRNGEST CHARACTERS IN THOSE UNIVERSES, "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" SURE IS THE STRONGEST OF ALL BUT HES NOT A SUPERHERO HES NEUTRAL N ALSO THERE R VILLAINS STRONGER THAN THOR, BUT YES THOR IS THE STRONGEST OF THE SUPERHEROES
@theotherhalfoftheang WOW,angry fella??? quote "thor wasn't actually created by marvel comics i can say he's the first n oldest superhero, he was taken from the viking mitology, so he's also the oldest n most popular."???care to explain? because i dont see any mention of dc in that comment.buddy.
Yeah thor is the most powerful superhero n superma has weaknesses plus he's totally undefensive against magic, there r many villians or neutral guys stronger than thor but without a doubt thor is the greatest superhero
@aeonlag not the only one Hercules , Ares, are also gods, and on Marvels continuity a guy like Thanos is a god too, see he is a descendant of the Olympians or greek gods, Celestials, and Eternals can count on a similar category.
what about when thor trapped hulk in a different dimension hulk knocked him out then and then thor knocked hulk out took him back to earth and hulk woke up and beat thor until he wasnt moving thor has only beat hulk that once
@pikppa hulk knocked him into the side of a mountain buried him and the thor found hulk and knocked him out took him back to earth hulk woke up and beat thor until thor was in the ground not moving
@joejoe45ful The mountain didn't hurt Thor. True, Hulk pounded Thor into the ground, BUT this is what was said: "Thor, it SEEMS, has been beaten beyond reason. Whether he is alive or dead ... the Hulk doesn't care. However...the Odinson yet lives, and slowly, painfully...he rises!" Thor immediately says, "Turn and face me, monster!" Then, Hulk whines, "Huh? But Hulk smashed long hair. Why won't long hair stay down once he's been smashed?" Once again, that proves Hulk can't KO Thor.
@Dynamo001 red hulk vs odin force thor red hulk KOd thor and knocked him on the moon then thor comes back for a rematch and gets his ass kicked savage hulk has to come and stop red hulk from killing thor
@joejoe45ful Good grief!Your using Loeb's works as evidence.And U got it wrong.Thor defeated Rulk in their rematch in Hulk#6.Rulk even admitted Thor had him on the ropes.Meaning Thor would've killed him if it weren't for Hulk.And this was mentioned & referenced in Breaking Into Comics The Marvel Way#2, were Balder told Thor that he almost killed Rulk(Hulk#6).And Thor even mentioned that his right arm was sufficient enough to bring down Rulk.
@joejoe45ful Your reading skills are as faulty as your grammar. True, Rulk caught Thor by surprise, leaped with him to the moon, but he didn't KO Thor. Hulk is the one that got his 'ass kicked' more than once by Rulk. If not for Thor, Rulk would have killed Hulk. He saved Hulk and beat the hell out of Rulk and was about to finish him when Hulk jumped in and took another beating. A-Bomb asked Thor to LET Hulk fight for a win. The only reason Hulk "won" was because Rulk overheated.
@joejoe45ful Actually, Thor was taken by surprise, NOT KO'd (not even phased actually), and THEN the Rulk made a hasty retreat before Thor could attack back. I own that comic. Thor made a mockery of him in the very next issue.
@joejoe45ful Actually, he killed Hulk by snapping his neck once, killed hulk in a battle against 3 other heros (4 on one) *without* Mjolnir, and has beaten the piss out of red, green and grey hulk multiple times. When he chooses to not hold back. Which is rare. He almost always holds back - especially against those he's called ally or friend in the past.
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Thor sucks. He would get anal'd by the Hulk. Hulk has actually been able to lift his hammer too. And really? You actually think Thor is stronger then Superman? That guy is immortal to the point of ridiculous with probably 10x the strength Hulk has!
@pikppa If you read the comics you'll read that Thor admitted that he could never beat the Hulk. If you read Hulk 300 Thor admits that ANY weapon in the hands of Hulk would KILL Thor.
@sallywatergun read better the comics, that is Nul, a Hulk who possess a copy of Mjolnir. He could'nt beat him because he's a Hulk + Thor's powers being. Any weapon? he was an ADAMANTIUM state that Hulk wielded, with that almost any top tier could kill another, but Hulk has no adamantium in his natural power-set. Hulk has nothing but brute force, Thor has much more powers. And Hulk 300... Thor was winning before the dr. strange stop the fight
Lol, and Thor flys without his hammer. Sure he can't fly at light speed. He can fly by manipulating the winds just like Storm. He still has weather manipulating powers like Storm. With his hammer, he flies much faster, at light speeds.
In regards to Beta Ray Bill. I don't think BRB ever beat Thor. In their first fight, BRB knocked Mjolnir out of Thor's hand and used it to fly away. I don't think that is very definitive. In their second fight, they fought for the rightful ownership of Mjolnir. Both fought hand to hand and fell into the core of the planet. They did a double K.O. BRB is an alien who is used to the heat and he was the first to rise. They are about equal, but Thor can increase his strength with Warrior Madness.
@EyeS2pify On the second match Beta ray Bil won, that is so clear tht on firts instance Odin was going to give him Mjolinir, then they created a new Hamer for Bill. On Thor 339, Thor is still lamenting his defeat, on his bed while recovering from battle injuries, if he won why regret anything ? reread thos comic classics, and any hero can loose, if it doesnt happen it become sboring. Be well.
@TheVetoSkreeemer Maybe you should do more research. The second match they did a double K.O. Both knocked each other out. The comic said that because Beta Ray Bill is an alien and is used to the extreme heat that allowed him to wake up first. So he won because he was the first to rise not because he is stronger and he only rose first because he is more used to the heat. Beta Ray Bill is not stronger than Thor. When Thor was berserk he killed Beta Ray Bill, because Thor gets stronger with madness
@EyeS2pify That is not the story I read , and the other one you mention doesn t count for me, see nothing real important has happened with Thor after Simnson left. On Simonson story Beta Ray Bill won, period. You say heat was the key factor, maybe, maybe when Federer lost to Nadal on Roland Garros there was also a lot of heat , yeah and one winner!
@TheVetoSkreeemer It is the story you read. And exactly as it is in the comics I own. Re-read them yourself. Odin intentionally set Thor up to be defeated in such a fashion - more of his scheming.
@RobertMfromLI I have Thor asks Odin precisely , what you are pointing out but he doesnt answer Thor s question, it could be scheming, or maybe he wanted to lift his son s ego. In any case beta Ray Bill won, the rest is just interpretations.
@EyeS2pify On top of all of that, in a Skrull war thingy, when BRB was beat senseless by the genetic abomination of theirs, BRB starts laughing like an insane man, because Thor is on his way, and per BRB's on words, BRB is only a pale imitation, and the creature has NO chance against the real thing.
True to BRB's word, Thor doesn't have a problem at all.
Thor moved 9 planets? Crack must be getting cheaper to buy on the street. Look, we're ALL fanboys, but lets not make up fiction about our, well...fiction. It demeans us all. Dr. Manhattan, Silver Surfer, Superman in current continuity or pre-crisis. THESE guys are ALL more powerful than Thor, and the list of heroes physically stronger than Thor is as long as my arm (and I have a long arm!)
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Thor has had more impressive feats than that actually. Because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it didn't happen - and it did. But "nine planets" that he almost destroyed, was "the nine worlds" - or rather, the universe. Read the myths of Jorgumand... they are in both myth and comic form.
Hulk may be my favorite hero but I know that Hulk has been beaten by Thor and other people vice versa.
Here is a list of heros and villians who are on the same playing feild
Juggernaut, Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Captain Mar-vell, Black Adam, Hercules, Thor, Abomination, and... Superman. I know they're more but no need to name them I'm sure you fanboys get the point.
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Hulk held a planet together. More than 150 billion tons. Could Hulk handle the God- Blast? Dont know. Hulk is stronger than Hercules. See Thor #385 for who is stronger. Thor has backed down Galactus so I dont claim Hulk is more powerful. That quieston is unanswered. Hulk is stronger.
@hulkthor1 Thor #385 proved nothing other than Hulk is scared of Mjolnir and can't K.O. Thor -- even w/o his hammer. Thor wasn't trying to hurt Hulk or knock him out...he was trying to calm the big green dolt down from acting like a fool. Hulk threatened to injure/kill an innocent woman if Thor didn't get rid of Mjolnir. Thor tossed his hammer, held his ground and took everything Hulk could dish out. When Mjolnir returned, Hulk ran like a scared bitch. So, Hulk is far from 'stronger'.
@Dynamo001 no hulk said all ur power comes from objects which his power does hulk wanted a fair fight and when thor cheated hulk left dissapointed that thor has no honor same when thor faught hecules thor cheat in one on one with hercules and had an entire team along with thor to take hercules down hulk took hercules down honorably and it was a fair fight
@joejoe45ful Just because Hulk's stupid ass said Thor was nothing w/o Mjolnir, it clearly doesn't mean it's true. Mjolnir is Thor's weapon and no different than what web shooters are to Spider-Man or a shield is to Captain America. His power isn't in the hammer...the hammer is just a powerful tool. Even w/o Mjolnir, Hulk couldn't defeat Thor -- which was what he claimed he could do and whined when he couldn't. As for that non-canon Herc fight, Thor commands lightning...Herc can't.
@hulkthor1 Hercules has lifted a planet, Thor has moved 9 planets, Gladiator has destroyed planets. All that out performs Hulk's feats of holding two tectonic plates together and struggling to hold a mountain above him. Thor is stronger. Thor nearly beat the Silver Surfer to death. Hulk couldn't budge the Surfer the first two times they met.
@EyeS2pify Ok, I've been reading comics for 2 decades kid. When exactly did Herc OR Thor move anything remotely as heavy as a planet? Please fill me in on what issue of what comic, so I can call marvel and tell THEM. Because THEY have NEVER printed a book with those guys doing that. Superman, on the other hand....READ some of the books first. Fanboys... sheesh...
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Thor ripped away the Midgar snake from off the Earth. Midgar Snake is said to be somewhere between half the weight of the planet to the entire weight of the planet and it required additional strength to tear it's grasp off the Earth. Thor moved the Yggdrasil tree's engine which holds 9 worlds. In the 90's Thor hit Beta Ray Bill so hard it shattered the planetoid they were on and you know BRB absorbed most of that hit. And Hercules lifted the Earth to give Atlas a rest at it.
@EyeS2pify THor FOUGHT Jormangund (the midgard serpent) in the 80s and killed him, Walt Simonson wrote the story arc. Thor, in comics lifted a portion of jormangund, and when Thor fought the midgard serpent (in comics) the midgard serpent was in NO WAY, as big as the earth (Loki even says, its a good thing he never grew to full size). by the way, Thor killed him, defying ragnarok prophecy in the Marvel universe. You cant quote Norse mythology and compare it to the Marvel Universe Thor. continued
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 mythology is MUCH different than comics. Thor has had a hard time fighting Ultron in comics. Beta Ray Bill BEAT thor BEFORE beta ray received Thor's power. Thor is physically, one of marvels strongest, but beneath Hulk AND hercules. The writer on Avengers even had the Wasp state that Hercules was physically stronger than Thor. What makes thor very powerful is his HAMMER. His hammer alone could wipe out everyone who's ever been an X Man. continued again....
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Thor has given up the "Odin power" recently in comics. He is at his original levels. He can routinely lift in excess of 100 tons. Compared to Superman, who in current continuity, can lift 100s of QUINTILLIONS of tons, this is NO CONTEST. The only reason Thor could go hand to hand against Supes in JLA/AVENGERS was because Marvel would NEVER sign a deal with any company and allow their characters to get smacked around like infants. Thor is my FAVORITE MU hero. continued...
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 BUT you cant make up stuff about a guy just because he's your favorite. Thor is the best in my book, because unlike Goku, who fights for pride or the Hulk, who fights because he's pissed, Thor fights for JUSTICE on behalf of people who cant fight for themselves. I would LOVE for Thor to be THAT powerful and be marvel's "superman", but he isnt. Marvel characteras sre generally weaker, power-wise than DC. Still, THATS what makes them awesome AND relatable. Bye.
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 By the way, There is "magic" involved in Thor moving the world tree. In mythology, youre referring to the 9 "worlds". Many of those "worlds" exist in or around Asgard herself usually in the marvel universe, and arent ACTUAL planets. They NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER have been actual planets in the marvel U. Fact checking. Its a bitch.
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Lol, I don't care what wasp says. She isn't all knowing. If she thinks someone is physically stronger than Thor, it doesn't mean crap. I know what I've seen in comics. Thor has stalemated Hercules in an armwrestling contest. If Thor goes into Warrior Madness mode, his strength multiplies by 10x and he is definitely stronger then. It's said many times that Thor holds back against mortals like Hulk and would never use more than 1/3 of his strength. Hulk is way below the gods.
@EyeS2pify Heres a "LOL" for you kid, then I'm done trying to educate you. When the WASP says something, she IS all-knowing. Because when SHE says something, its coming from the WRITER. and the WRITER IS all-knowing, but I'll call Marvel for you, on YOUR bahalf and I'll let the writers and editorial staff know that THEY dont know what theyre talking about because some anonymous pissant kid from youtube has decided that THEY, the owners of the property, dont know what theyre talking about. "LOL"
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 I have provided a valid argument for why Thor is stronger than those other people you mentioned. He has either proven their equals or greater when Thor is clam. If Thor went into Warrior Madness, his strength would increase and he would definitely be stronger. The only counter argument you gave is that Wasp said otherwise. Well going by your logic, Red Hulk said he would defeat Galactus, but wait, didn't he lose that fight? I guess it doesn't matter what a character says.
@EyeS2pify I dont just have Wasp's statement. I have a Thor collection going all the way back to 1976, without missing a single issue. Warrior madness is nonsense. I've seen this so-called warrior's madness during the infinity saga, and it didnt allow thor to beat Drax. In fact, Drax, in possession of the power gem, would have won. Thor is strong, not the strongest. In fact, his hammer is probably 90% of Thors abilities. He cant fly without it, etc.
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 What we really have here is the same thing I seem to encounter consistently on youtube. A younger, more inexperienced comic fan that picks a favorite hero, picks out the FEW examples of writer bias that justifies his argument about HIS hero being the "best" and quoting ONLY those, while ignoring DECADES of storytelling all around that stuff that refutes his opinion, simply because it doesnt support his argument. Dont ever become a lawyer kid...
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Read Blood and Thunder. Odin says Thor was not in true Warrior Madness vs Drax, his mind was just fucked because of all the mental warping Odin did to his son over the years. Lol, I like how you call me an inexperienced fanboy. If you have so many facts that prove Thor is weaker, please, NAME SOME! All you've given is that Wasp comment, which I countered with my Red Hulk comment. A character saying something doesn't make it reliable. I gave a link to Thor stalemating Herc.
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 I'm not quoting Norse Mythology. I'm quoting comics. And I sent you a personal message with links to the comic where Thor fights the Midgar serpent and many other strength feats. I sent it well before you posted your last message. Go check your inbox. Midgar serpent may not be as big as the earth, but size doesn't always equal weight. The serpent is still really heavy and is somewhere between half as heavy as the Earth to the full weight of the planet. Face it, Thor is a god
@EyeS2pify I agree, Thor is a god. The rest of what you said is simply fanboy bias, based on the fact that you want your favorite to be the strongest. I wont try to reason with you because you will simply quote ONLY the things that support your OPINION and ignore the FACTS that dont. I might as well argue politics with Sarah Palin. Enjoy delusion. Medications can be a bitch though.
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 The midgard serpent is often shrouded in illusion and WAS at it's current massive size. Hence, in the Simonsen arc, he first appeared as Fin-Fang-Foom, and in the iss with Utgard-Loki, he appeared as a cat (and THAT was the time he almost destroyed the "nine worlds" - which in reality, are THE UNIVERSE ITSELF). He was STOPPED by Utgard-Loki before he tried using more of his strength to lift the "cat" for fear Thor would manage to destroy the "nine worlds" with such a feat.
@hulkthor1 The most Hulk has ever lifted was 150 billion tons. Thor moved Yggdrasil which is a lot more than 150 billion tons. Until Hulk comes near that feat, Thor remains stronger. Marvel also had a noncannon strength contest in the Savage Lands. Thor beat everyone: Hercules and Hulk, both tied for second; Wonderman got 3rd, Thing got fourth, ect. This doesn't mean Hulk doesn't have the potential, but as far as feats are concerned, the two strongest heroes in Marvel are Thor and Hercules.
@staley1981 don't forget about avengers vs defenders: thor stalemeted the hulk for an entire hour despite Hulk continued to increment his strenght. And in hulk 440, Thor said that he was holding back.
@pikppa that's right, I forgot about Defenders 10. Thanks for reminding me. Has Fernando shown you the scan of the weight lifting contest? It's pretty cool.
Goku an Superman suck, theyre the heroes that win due to the fact that the fans just say so, for example superman wins for the sake that hes superman...
Forget Thor, the Green Goliath can handle the whole Avengers Team by himself. Thor had difficulties beating Gladiator on his own, Hulk did it, with his sheer strenght only. Asgard knows the rage of the Hulk.
And who ever does not know the one above all he is tied with thor for the most powerful but the one above all can destroy anyone and anything including galactus and thanos jean grey, silver surfer anything and thor survive the blow and i think almost defeats him
I have some issues of Thor beating Mangog and THEN Thanos in the same battle if you need to add them to your video! Yes, heck yes, Thor is the mightiest ..
i always thought the super hero thor was incredibly to weak and never came close to living up to the myth of thor.if you speak of the mythic thor then yes he would be one of the strongest heroes,i mean he did carve the earth out of ymirs body after all.he was basically strength personified.
Sorry Thor fans but the Only time Thor fought Superman (apart from all these fan made ones) was the crossover Marvel/ Dc and Thor loses.
Thor also fought Hulk many times, with or without the help of the avengers and most of the times he got defeated, you can check on internet or even on youtube and you'll find
About Hercules, they quite match their strength and skills but because of Odin taking his powers Thor ended up losing, but Thor is very powerful anyway
@sampasing Thor always defeated or drawing the Hulk, only one time he lost. Hulk can never macht the son of Odino, he's lucky because Thor is a hero and never dreamed to kill him because of Banner. Or the big fat green monkey died many years ago.
@pikppa Not to mention Thor went 1 on 1 & defeated Glory(a being w/ the power of 10,000 Gods) in Chaos War:Thor#1 & #2.And in the last issue of Chaos War, Thor summoned a Multiversal lightning that was powerful enough to hurt the Chaos King(who destroyed & absorbed 98,76% of the Marvel Mutliverse).I don't wanna know what would happen to Hulk or Superman if they got hit by a Multiversal Lightning.
Well said. Also, that "sampasing" guy should remember that when Thor first encountered Superman, he floored him with ONE blow from Mjolnir and Supes was so weakened by it, he needed to double team with Martian Manhunter in order to strike back. A win for Thor methinks.
@pikppa but i myself think the strongest being or god is the GOD OF THUNDER HIMSELF he can survive blows and strikes from the ONE ABOVE ALL WHO IS MATCHED WITH THOR FOR THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON OR GOD evar!!!!!!! search it up.
@pikppa True, except for one thing...Thor has never lost to Hulk in a canon comic. Hulk can't knock out Thor, period -- no matter how hard he tries. All of their fights were left unresolved. If Thor intended on beating Hulk, he would have to go berserk and kill him any of a multiple of ways (brute force, God Blast, amped lightning, Anti-Force, Life-force drain, etc.).
I loved it when I heard Supes kicked the crap out of longhair, primitive thor. up there in asgard, they all fight with clubs, maces, swords, and even hammers
@sampasing but i myself think the strongest being or god is the GOD OF THUNDER HIMSELF he can survive blows and strikes from the ONE ABOVE ALL WHO IS MATCHED WITH THOR FOR THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON OR GOD evar!!!!!!! search it up.
@sampasing 1.) Thor fought Superfraud in a NON-CANON crossover, so, it doesn't count. 2.) Thor has never lost to Hulk in mainstream continuity. Before you open your mouth, learn the difference between what counts (canon) and what doesn't (non-canon).
The only thing you have right is that Thor lost to Herc because of Odin stripping Thor's powers during a fight with Herc to teach him a lesson about falling in love with a mortal (Jane Foster). Other than that, Herc isn't stronger than Thor.
Thos is def one of the strongest. Perhaps on Asgard he beats them all but on Earth doesnt pack the same wallop, especially with the Avengers
Truthfully Dynamo I can't see Mantis taking Thor no matter how skilled she is in the martial arts
Remember the original Superbeast from 1966 "The people breeders" who possessed a scientific prowess along with advanced martial arts skills one million years in the future. Combined, he was enough of a threat to make all who live fear....
@sampasing I have that crossover(avengers/jla) indeed superman beats thor but just barely and thor states that if they fought again the outcome would be different. Also this was the version of thor without the odinforce which he now has.
@sampasing Also i have the marvel vs dc / Dc vs marvel crossover in which Thor beats Captain Marvel
A person who has fought superman to a standstill. Plus Thor has mystical skills which in the crossover (avengers/jla) he never uses. Also Superman should not be able to withstand strikes from his hammer seeing as it has mystical properties something in which the crossover never addresses.
@bullshark67 Thor has killed Hulk on two occasions: one time he broke Hulk's neck in What if 45 ; the other time he impaled Hulk with a tree in Thor 73, volume 2. Both those times Thor didn't use Mjolnir.
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Anyone who is been asked this question and actually has a CLUE , will say Dr.Manhattan , any answer other than that is just pure ignorance on CERTAIN FACTS
Hulk beat all the Avengers at once in World war Hulk.
StupidKidPeople0 2 days ago
Thor is a bad ass!
Zalevspider 1 month ago
lol was that conan at the end
leodragon111 1 month ago
the strength is his but the storm stuff is the hammer
leodragon111 1 month ago
um, hes not stronger than superman.
Afroman1837 1 month ago
There are so many variations of Thor, and the battle conditions are important to determine who wins and loses. Thor summoned enough power to disable Galactus, and lift the Midgard Serpant, yet when he fought hand to hand against Hercules, it was a tie. Hercules gets easily beaten by Hulk during wwh, but Thor has beaten the Hulk(?) Superman beats Thor during the Avengers JLA cross over, but then Thor beats Doomsday? This is just like the WWE, who beats who doesn't depend on mere strength alone.
calindor23 1 month ago
@calindor23 In many battles, Thor chooses to only use as much strength as his opponent - especially if that opponent was formerly (or still) a friend. He's commented on that himself. And there's plenty of evidence to support it. When we see such being proved are usually when he gets pissed off and stops holding back as much. Like in the "Ultron Unlimited" comics where he "teamed up" (took a back seat) with his teammates to beat ONE Ultron - but when they were surrounded, he got annoyed and... :)
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
Thor > Superman, Hulk, etc.
MMAProWrestlingOwns 1 month ago
the hulk can beat anyone but not kill the hulk never backs down nomatter how bad ass you are.
nikkibaby187 2 months ago
@nikkibaby187 tell that to the God who defeated Galactus,
Mangog(who was stronger than Thor), Sentry, killed a Skyfather. Something that was never done by Hulk.
Khalis33 2 months ago
Thor is the strongest marvel super hero. He's a God. He has his hammer. Many say that the hulk is stronger, but people don't take into account the two forms of the hulk, his mortal & immortal form. Thor is immortal & as stated in the comics his hammer has NO equal in the universe. Nothing that exists is stronger than his hammer (so the storyline goes) so therefore, he can defeat the hulk, because no matter how angry the hulk gets, the hulks power is no match to thors hammer.
BudStepp 3 months ago
@BudStepp
he may be immortal but that doesnt make him stronger. I've seen mortals makes hash out of Thor. What about Graviton? What about Mantis? They're not gods and both put him out of action
Also, in Thor 153, we seen Donald Blake hold off Loki using a an extinguisher sdevice aying "Even an Asgardian cannot stand agianst a sudden blast of ether"
It all depends on the writer. For instance, if she wanted to, Susan Storm could kill Thor but opening up blood vessels to his brain
Piglatinsuperstar 3 months ago
from what i have seen in cartoons thor always get hiss ass kicked by hulk!!! so why some people consider him the strongest!! i mean did they forget that superman exists?
violincejack 3 months ago
Dr. Manhattan overpowers all.
SnoppHuve 3 months ago
Thor in my opinion is 1-4 place in power but in physical strength Hulk is the strongest Thor is second....
attitudeaddjustment 3 months ago
@sallywatergun poor fanboy, hulk has NEVER defeated Thor. And Thor said that he couldn't beat NUL, not Hulk. The difference? Nul is a Hulk with a copy of Mjolnir and much more powers which resemble thor's powers. Thor has destroy onslaught's armor, not dented and Thor had no need to jean grey's help.
pikppa 5 months ago
@pikppa what do you mean by "hulk has NEVER defeated Thor"? Kill Thor or beat Thor or something else?
Khalis33 3 months ago
@pikppa no pikppa, it should be......"hulk has NEVER killed Thor" that said, Thor has killed Hulk before
Khalis33 2 months ago
Superheroes
scadams13 5 months ago
Sorry,if it was within him,he wouldn't need the hammer.I'm done commenting on this subject.You like Thor,great.I don't like heels that they portray can do everything.They are boring.
scadams13 5 months ago
If he did,I am going by what I understand.Like I said,I haven't read that comic.Like I stated,the hammer is what makes Thor powerful.
scadams13 5 months ago
@scadams13 read ragnarok: a hammer is but a tool, even Mjolnir. Thor is a god, the power is within him
pikppa 5 months ago
@pikppa Actually no. Thor need the Hammer to beat Hercules.
sallywatergun 5 months ago
@pikppa
sadly in marvel vs dc...the writers made it so superman was stronger then thor and the might of mjolnir :(
BUT...superman later defeated their mutual foe with the added power of mjolnir if I remember correctly.
EasternGateGuardian 4 months ago
By the way,haven't read it but read when facing Onslaught Thors' hammer couldn't dent,but an angry Hulk cracked it.Again,it's all in the storyline.
scadams13 5 months ago
@scadams13 thor cracked onslaught's armor
pikppa 5 months ago
@pikppa
Thor slammed trough onslaught's armor freeing the kid after hulk cracked it no?
EasternGateGuardian 4 months ago
I have seen comics where Thor used hammer and still couldn't beat Hulk.Well,everyone continue to debate.I don't care and will just continue to read comics.
scadams13 5 months ago
I like Thor,Hulk more,but face it,without his hammer,Thor isn't in the league as Hulk.It's all in the way the comic producer and artist want them in the book at that time.He used hammer and belt of power,still couldn't beat Exitar the Executioner.
scadams13 5 months ago
Thor most powerful...i'm not sure Phyiscally strongest no i say it's..Hulk,Majestic or Skaar since he as the rage factor like his father
attitudeaddjustment 5 months ago
LOL i did not see on marvel hulk defeat a celestial come on hulk fan fags the name the above all on thor can match those super super super beyond godly being on universe are saying me hulk can match the one above all hey even zeus kick hulk ass in 5 minutes thor can battle zeus entire year thor can crumble uru into dust and the sun hulk can smash 2 asteroid like the size of earth hey how bigger is the sun to the earth thor can crumble the sun so shut up hulk fan fags!
melvaMylove 6 months ago
@RealMihaiQC In your gamma rays dreams
pikppa 6 months ago
@pikppa My comment was deleted, what did I say lol?
Hulk > Thor
When Jean Gray suppressed Banner, Hulk had power comparable to The Celestial.
Hulk already smashed an asteroid twice the size of Earth in one hit.
Hulk's footsteps can pulverize planets at higher levels (see ending of WWH)
Even Goku ain't got shit on that.
RealMihaiQC 6 months ago
@RealMihaiQC and when Hulk has ever defeat a Celestial?
Planet? Thor can make the universe trumble and shatter A SUN easily as a stone
pikppa 6 months ago
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@pikppa
aww bologne. Latest Thor has S. Surfer cutting Thor up & giving him hell with his surfboard behind the back attack. If Surfer wanted to bring his full powers into play he could just snap his fingers and Thor plus hammer would dematerialize. Surfer & Galactus are two guys with powers much more advanced
Piglatinsuperstar 5 months ago
@Piglatinsuperstar U forgot to mention Thor was wounded before his encounter with the Silver Surfer.And yet Silver Surfer couldn't bring down a wounded Thor.So Thor was handicapped in his fight with Silver Surfer.Thor also caused a big headache to Galactus when he did a speedblitz.The same speedblitz he did against Glory(a being with the power of 10,000 Gods and amped by the Chaos King).
bagsikdangal 5 months ago 4
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u forgot to mention Galactus was in the middle of his fight w Odin and had his head turned when Thor coldcocked him. real brave isnt he?
anyways, Thor doesnt really have powers of his own and isnt much w/o his hammer. Surfer has many more powers and can not only destroy but create. The gods not on the same level as Galactus & Surfer
Piglatinsuperstar 5 months ago
@Piglatinsuperstar whats this nonesense? Its Galactus. Thor hurt him. Period.
Without Mjolnir Thor still has control over the storm, the godblast, super strength, super speed (to a point), and is the most durable of the heralds.
Fernando072295 4 months ago 2
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Galactus can disintegrate Thor w just a randowm thought. he got the power transcendent. Thor just got a crude hammer like all other asgardians (clubs, swords, maces)
asgardians are tough, they strong but they arent really gods otherwise they wouldnt get old. Look at Odin!
and how come Odin always taking a nap?
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@Piglatinsuperstar you are one of those people who are ignorant of Thor and I hate you
Khalis33 3 months ago
@Fernando072295 In the one story Thor fought both Superman and Manhunter at the same time and defeated Manhunter in the fight, but only lost after he had been weaken fighting them both at once. Thor also easily defeated Doomsday the guy that killed Superman in one story.
hydrolito 2 months ago
I love thor but hes not the stronges
teentitans1324 6 months ago
The norse god Thor is stronger than both, Marvel's Thor and Hulk... Combined.
You can't compete against someone who can lift(and did so) the equivalent of the whole universe. Did Hulk do such a thing?
So this discussion is pretty much worthless. Hulk is nothing more than a wannabe Thor.
fugitivodoinferno 6 months ago
@fugitivodoinferno When did Thor lift the whole universe? In Greek Mythology Atlas held up the sky whatever that is suppose to mean, did the norse have Thor do something similar?
hydrolito 2 months ago
@hydrolito After everything is explained, Thor prepares to kill the jotun, when they all suddenly vanish. Loki and Thor's assistant also impress the jotun, but I can't remember the details. All I can remember is that Thor's assistant is extremely fast. I can't remember his name though.
fugitivodoinferno 2 months ago
@hydrolito The giants explain that Thor had menaged to lower the sea level around Yggdrasil by drinking it, something they describe as utterly impressive. They also explain that when he thought he was lifting a dog, he was actually lifting the universe. Some versions instead say that the "dog" was Jormungand. Thor also did more, like splitting midgard with a swing of his hammer. [4]
fugitivodoinferno 2 months ago
@hydrolito The jotun master invites them to stay for the night. On the next morning, before they left, the jotun explain(dont ask me why) that they were trapped in an illusion. The meaning of each challenge is then described, and I can only remember some of them: the old woman was age itself, the goblet was linked to the endless sea around Yggdrasil, and guess what he lifted? The universe. His performance impressed the giants, who then said that he was indeed the strongest of all. [3]
fugitivodoinferno 2 months ago
@fugitivodoinferno And this tale is retold in the comics as well. The giant was Utgard-Loki, a mage giant of immense power... and it was the world serpent/Midgardswyrm/Jormungandr that he lifted and nearly ripped off the ocean floor - which would have wreaked havoc with the nine worlds (universe)
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
@hydrolito The jotun's master/boss says that if Thor wants to fight them, he got to prove himself first. The giants then give them some challenges. I can't remember all of the challenges, but from what I recall, Thor has to drink from a horn, fight against an old giant woman, and lift a dog. He "fails" at every challenge, and so do his assistant and Loki. Thor then declares he never felt more humiliated in his life. [2]
fugitivodoinferno 2 months ago
@hydrolito There is a norse tale where Thor is hunting giants(Jotun) with Loki and his [Thor's] assistant. They then come to a strange forest where, it seems, they are trapped in some kind of illusion. They then proceed to face the giants inside their stronghold in Jotunheim. The giants there(described as really massive and strong creatures) mock Thor, daring him to show his strenght. [1]
fugitivodoinferno 2 months ago
@hydrolito Yes, he nearly lifted the Midgard Serpent, which is a feat of impossible stature. He was stopped before he destroyed everything. This story is both a part of the myth and the comicbooks. In the myths (and some comics) the serpent has grown so large he encircles the world tree that contains "the universe" - which he would've destroyed with such a feat.
In one comic, he beat Drax the Destroyer WHILE Drax was wearing the power gem from the Infinity Gauntlet - THAT'S how powerful he is
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
One above all to rape them all :P
(but he's not a hero)
vatarants 6 months ago
Hulk is the strongest just watch world war hulk
Camouflagentears 6 months ago
@Camouflagentears to see what? He didn't defeat Thor in Wwh.
pikppa 6 months ago
@Camouflagentears in that comic book it says hulk was the strongest in the universe because he was at the peak of his rage and beat sentry who is the strongest after that there was Red Hulk who defeated thor and picked up his hammer, hulk defeated red hulk as well no question when hulk is at the peak of his anger he is the strongest there is.
Camouflagentears 6 months ago
@Camouflagentears Thor was dead when wwh was wrtitten, in fact in a what if Thor fight the green scar and stalemeted him with nothing but bare hands and hammer-strike (but Thor have much more powers). Rulk defeated even the Hulk but then Thor defeated Rulk not one but two times. And Hulk defeated Rulk only because he was weakened, Thor defeated and nearly killed a full-power Rulk. And recently the worthy thing had nearly killed Rulk, Thor killed the worthy thing with just one strike.
pikppa 6 months ago
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@pikppa
the power is in his hammer, not him. Surfer has more powers
hulk is stronger too ieven tho Thor says he is a God (whatever that means)
Piglatinsuperstar 6 months ago
@pikppa LOL he payback the red hulk 2 times and fucking dead thor owned the red hulk 2 times red hulk 1 times for thor so shut up!
melvaMylove 6 months ago
@Camouflagentears what any Hulk can do if Thor stop the time for him? Or transmute him in a helium cloud? These are the true powers of Thor (this and more than this), the true powers of Hulk? Nothing, he have nothing but brute force.
pikppa 6 months ago
Dr. Manhattan is the strongest superhero hands down.
alteredoptions 7 months ago
@alteredoptions TOAA rapes manhattans blue butt everyday of the week :)
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
this is funny that you say thor is the strongest, i had some comic cards that said he is #3 .. #1 superman, #2 silver surfer, #3 thor , #4 hulk and i was discussing this about a week ago to a friend of mine who is a superhero junkie age 40 so i would would believe him and what it said on back of the cards before you .. nice song tho but its played out too much
ucwwcu 7 months ago
@ucwwcu Thor defeated Silver Surfer three times
pikppa 7 months ago
@pikppa ok but we're talking about strength
ucwwcu 7 months ago
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@ucwwcu
that's about right cuz the Surver got alot more powers. I would rate Surfer first then Supes, then Thor and then Hulk (but Hulk is stronger)
Piglatinsuperstar 6 months ago
@ucwwcu Old Wizard disagrees, and spells it out. Remember the Infinity Gauntlet, and the Power Gem? Thor beat Drax the Destroyer WHILE Drax had the power gem, AFTER decimating Beta Ray Bill *AND* Surfer - and then took the power gem for his own.
He's went toe to toe with the Celestials and had better showings than virtually anyone. He is SO powerful that he even gained an audience with Eternity itself. And he hasn't even begun to tap into the power/strength that is his birthright from his mom.
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
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@aeonlag
why are Gods superior to mortals? they still fight with clubs and use swords, even maces!
Piglatinsuperstar 7 months ago
If that wouldn't be enought... thor wasn't actually created by marvel comics, I can say he's the first n oldest superhero, he was taken from the viking mitology, so he's also the oldest n most popular.
theotherhalfoftheang 7 months ago
@theotherhalfoftheang actually the Thor mythology started in germania and spread to scandinavia afterwards (im from that neck of the woods).
also greek mythological heroes predate norse mythos,so in actuality thor is NOT the oldest "superhero".
Btw "The One Above All"(you know.....the one who spoke to FF and erased mr fantastics face,later spoke to peter parker while disguised as a homeless dude)isnt he the most powerful being in marvel????
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare THNX FOR THE INFO ABOUT OTHERS ANCIENT SUPERHEROES, BUT I THINK U DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID, I SAID THAT THOR IS THE STRONGEST SUPER HERO IN MARVEL N DC COMICS, N YES HE IS BUT SUPERHEROES R NOT THE STRNGEST CHARACTERS IN THOSE UNIVERSES, "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" SURE IS THE STRONGEST OF ALL BUT HES NOT A SUPERHERO HES NEUTRAL N ALSO THERE R VILLAINS STRONGER THAN THOR, BUT YES THOR IS THE STRONGEST OF THE SUPERHEROES
theotherhalfoftheang 7 months ago
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@theotherhalfoftheang WOW,angry fella??? quote "thor wasn't actually created by marvel comics i can say he's the first n oldest superhero, he was taken from the viking mitology, so he's also the oldest n most popular."???care to explain? because i dont see any mention of dc in that comment.buddy.
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
@theotherhalfoftheang cont* apologies if you think im being a smartass,im trying not to be,so no hard feelings :)
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
Yeah thor is the most powerful superhero n superma has weaknesses plus he's totally undefensive against magic, there r many villians or neutral guys stronger than thor but without a doubt thor is the greatest superhero
theotherhalfoftheang 7 months ago
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superman will kick his ass
cashweather12321 8 months ago
@aeonlag ok you win, enjoy your thor devotion. On the other hand I am sad because a true hero, Gene Colan passed away, be well man.
TheVetoSkreeemer 8 months ago
@aeonlag not the only one Hercules , Ares, are also gods, and on Marvels continuity a guy like Thanos is a god too, see he is a descendant of the Olympians or greek gods, Celestials, and Eternals can count on a similar category.
TheVetoSkreeemer 8 months ago
what about when thor trapped hulk in a different dimension hulk knocked him out then and then thor knocked hulk out took him back to earth and hulk woke up and beat thor until he wasnt moving thor has only beat hulk that once
joejoe45ful 8 months ago
@joejoe45ful if Thor trapped the Hulk in another dimension, how can hulk hurt him?
pikppa 8 months ago
@pikppa hulk knocked him into the side of a mountain buried him and the thor found hulk and knocked him out took him back to earth hulk woke up and beat thor until thor was in the ground not moving
joejoe45ful 8 months ago
@joejoe45ful The mountain didn't hurt Thor. True, Hulk pounded Thor into the ground, BUT this is what was said: "Thor, it SEEMS, has been beaten beyond reason. Whether he is alive or dead ... the Hulk doesn't care. However...the Odinson yet lives, and slowly, painfully...he rises!" Thor immediately says, "Turn and face me, monster!" Then, Hulk whines, "Huh? But Hulk smashed long hair. Why won't long hair stay down once he's been smashed?" Once again, that proves Hulk can't KO Thor.
Dynamo001 8 months ago
@Dynamo001 red hulk vs odin force thor red hulk KOd thor and knocked him on the moon then thor comes back for a rematch and gets his ass kicked savage hulk has to come and stop red hulk from killing thor
joejoe45ful 8 months ago
@joejoe45ful Good grief!Your using Loeb's works as evidence.And U got it wrong.Thor defeated Rulk in their rematch in Hulk#6.Rulk even admitted Thor had him on the ropes.Meaning Thor would've killed him if it weren't for Hulk.And this was mentioned & referenced in Breaking Into Comics The Marvel Way#2, were Balder told Thor that he almost killed Rulk(Hulk#6).And Thor even mentioned that his right arm was sufficient enough to bring down Rulk.
bagsikdangal 8 months ago
@joejoe45ful Your reading skills are as faulty as your grammar. True, Rulk caught Thor by surprise, leaped with him to the moon, but he didn't KO Thor. Hulk is the one that got his 'ass kicked' more than once by Rulk. If not for Thor, Rulk would have killed Hulk. He saved Hulk and beat the hell out of Rulk and was about to finish him when Hulk jumped in and took another beating. A-Bomb asked Thor to LET Hulk fight for a win. The only reason Hulk "won" was because Rulk overheated.
Dynamo001 8 months ago
@Dynamo001 plz stop arguing i dont wanna argue no more i am done truce
joejoe45ful 8 months ago
@joejoe45ful Actually, Thor was taken by surprise, NOT KO'd (not even phased actually), and THEN the Rulk made a hasty retreat before Thor could attack back. I own that comic. Thor made a mockery of him in the very next issue.
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
@RobertMfromLI yeah i know rulk only won cuz some guy at marvel kept saying how Rulk was so powerful
joejoe45ful 2 weeks ago
@joejoe45ful Actually, he killed Hulk by snapping his neck once, killed hulk in a battle against 3 other heros (4 on one) *without* Mjolnir, and has beaten the piss out of red, green and grey hulk multiple times. When he chooses to not hold back. Which is rare. He almost always holds back - especially against those he's called ally or friend in the past.
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
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Thor sucks. He would get anal'd by the Hulk. Hulk has actually been able to lift his hammer too. And really? You actually think Thor is stronger then Superman? That guy is immortal to the point of ridiculous with probably 10x the strength Hulk has!
Sundin456 8 months ago
@Sundin456 puny fanboy, hulk never lifted Mjolnir in a comic, stop wachting stupid cartoons and read some comics
pikppa 8 months ago 3
@pikppa If you read the comics you'll read that Thor admitted that he could never beat the Hulk. If you read Hulk 300 Thor admits that ANY weapon in the hands of Hulk would KILL Thor.
sallywatergun 5 months ago
@sallywatergun read better the comics, that is Nul, a Hulk who possess a copy of Mjolnir. He could'nt beat him because he's a Hulk + Thor's powers being. Any weapon? he was an ADAMANTIUM state that Hulk wielded, with that almost any top tier could kill another, but Hulk has no adamantium in his natural power-set. Hulk has nothing but brute force, Thor has much more powers. And Hulk 300... Thor was winning before the dr. strange stop the fight
pikppa 5 months ago
wow i like to to see thor vs hulk in a movie it will be entertaning but hulk picked up his hammer beforeO_O
desertblackout 8 months ago
@desertblackout that is only a cartoon
pikppa 8 months ago
Lol, and Thor flys without his hammer. Sure he can't fly at light speed. He can fly by manipulating the winds just like Storm. He still has weather manipulating powers like Storm. With his hammer, he flies much faster, at light speeds.
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
In regards to Beta Ray Bill. I don't think BRB ever beat Thor. In their first fight, BRB knocked Mjolnir out of Thor's hand and used it to fly away. I don't think that is very definitive. In their second fight, they fought for the rightful ownership of Mjolnir. Both fought hand to hand and fell into the core of the planet. They did a double K.O. BRB is an alien who is used to the heat and he was the first to rise. They are about equal, but Thor can increase his strength with Warrior Madness.
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
@EyeS2pify On the second match Beta ray Bil won, that is so clear tht on firts instance Odin was going to give him Mjolinir, then they created a new Hamer for Bill. On Thor 339, Thor is still lamenting his defeat, on his bed while recovering from battle injuries, if he won why regret anything ? reread thos comic classics, and any hero can loose, if it doesnt happen it become sboring. Be well.
TheVetoSkreeemer 8 months ago
@TheVetoSkreeemer Maybe you should do more research. The second match they did a double K.O. Both knocked each other out. The comic said that because Beta Ray Bill is an alien and is used to the extreme heat that allowed him to wake up first. So he won because he was the first to rise not because he is stronger and he only rose first because he is more used to the heat. Beta Ray Bill is not stronger than Thor. When Thor was berserk he killed Beta Ray Bill, because Thor gets stronger with madness
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
@EyeS2pify That is not the story I read , and the other one you mention doesn t count for me, see nothing real important has happened with Thor after Simnson left. On Simonson story Beta Ray Bill won, period. You say heat was the key factor, maybe, maybe when Federer lost to Nadal on Roland Garros there was also a lot of heat , yeah and one winner!
TheVetoSkreeemer 8 months ago
@TheVetoSkreeemer It is the story you read. And exactly as it is in the comics I own. Re-read them yourself. Odin intentionally set Thor up to be defeated in such a fashion - more of his scheming.
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
@RobertMfromLI I have Thor asks Odin precisely , what you are pointing out but he doesnt answer Thor s question, it could be scheming, or maybe he wanted to lift his son s ego. In any case beta Ray Bill won, the rest is just interpretations.
TheVetoSkreeemer 2 weeks ago
@EyeS2pify On top of all of that, in a Skrull war thingy, when BRB was beat senseless by the genetic abomination of theirs, BRB starts laughing like an insane man, because Thor is on his way, and per BRB's on words, BRB is only a pale imitation, and the creature has NO chance against the real thing.
True to BRB's word, Thor doesn't have a problem at all.
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
Thor moved 9 planets? Crack must be getting cheaper to buy on the street. Look, we're ALL fanboys, but lets not make up fiction about our, well...fiction. It demeans us all. Dr. Manhattan, Silver Surfer, Superman in current continuity or pre-crisis. THESE guys are ALL more powerful than Thor, and the list of heroes physically stronger than Thor is as long as my arm (and I have a long arm!)
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Thor has had more impressive feats than that actually. Because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it didn't happen - and it did. But "nine planets" that he almost destroyed, was "the nine worlds" - or rather, the universe. Read the myths of Jorgumand... they are in both myth and comic form.
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
Why do you start off the video with a panel of the fight where Juggernaut curbstomps Thor?
EyeS2pify 9 months ago
This is fanboyism at it's finest.
Hulk may be my favorite hero but I know that Hulk has been beaten by Thor and other people vice versa.
Here is a list of heros and villians who are on the same playing feild
Juggernaut, Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Captain Mar-vell, Black Adam, Hercules, Thor, Abomination, and... Superman. I know they're more but no need to name them I'm sure you fanboys get the point.
MarvelSkyZ 9 months ago
@MarvelSkyZ I thank you
pikppa 9 months ago
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Hulk held a planet together. More than 150 billion tons. Could Hulk handle the God- Blast? Dont know. Hulk is stronger than Hercules. See Thor #385 for who is stronger. Thor has backed down Galactus so I dont claim Hulk is more powerful. That quieston is unanswered. Hulk is stronger.
hulkthor1 9 months ago
@hulkthor1 Thor #385 proved nothing other than Hulk is scared of Mjolnir and can't K.O. Thor -- even w/o his hammer. Thor wasn't trying to hurt Hulk or knock him out...he was trying to calm the big green dolt down from acting like a fool. Hulk threatened to injure/kill an innocent woman if Thor didn't get rid of Mjolnir. Thor tossed his hammer, held his ground and took everything Hulk could dish out. When Mjolnir returned, Hulk ran like a scared bitch. So, Hulk is far from 'stronger'.
Dynamo001 9 months ago 12
@Dynamo001 no hulk said all ur power comes from objects which his power does hulk wanted a fair fight and when thor cheated hulk left dissapointed that thor has no honor same when thor faught hecules thor cheat in one on one with hercules and had an entire team along with thor to take hercules down hulk took hercules down honorably and it was a fair fight
joejoe45ful 8 months ago
@joejoe45ful Just because Hulk's stupid ass said Thor was nothing w/o Mjolnir, it clearly doesn't mean it's true. Mjolnir is Thor's weapon and no different than what web shooters are to Spider-Man or a shield is to Captain America. His power isn't in the hammer...the hammer is just a powerful tool. Even w/o Mjolnir, Hulk couldn't defeat Thor -- which was what he claimed he could do and whined when he couldn't. As for that non-canon Herc fight, Thor commands lightning...Herc can't.
Dynamo001 8 months ago
@hulkthor1 Hercules has lifted a planet, Thor has moved 9 planets, Gladiator has destroyed planets. All that out performs Hulk's feats of holding two tectonic plates together and struggling to hold a mountain above him. Thor is stronger. Thor nearly beat the Silver Surfer to death. Hulk couldn't budge the Surfer the first two times they met.
EyeS2pify 9 months ago
@EyeS2pify Ok, I've been reading comics for 2 decades kid. When exactly did Herc OR Thor move anything remotely as heavy as a planet? Please fill me in on what issue of what comic, so I can call marvel and tell THEM. Because THEY have NEVER printed a book with those guys doing that. Superman, on the other hand....READ some of the books first. Fanboys... sheesh...
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Thor ripped away the Midgar snake from off the Earth. Midgar Snake is said to be somewhere between half the weight of the planet to the entire weight of the planet and it required additional strength to tear it's grasp off the Earth. Thor moved the Yggdrasil tree's engine which holds 9 worlds. In the 90's Thor hit Beta Ray Bill so hard it shattered the planetoid they were on and you know BRB absorbed most of that hit. And Hercules lifted the Earth to give Atlas a rest at it.
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
@EyeS2pify THor FOUGHT Jormangund (the midgard serpent) in the 80s and killed him, Walt Simonson wrote the story arc. Thor, in comics lifted a portion of jormangund, and when Thor fought the midgard serpent (in comics) the midgard serpent was in NO WAY, as big as the earth (Loki even says, its a good thing he never grew to full size). by the way, Thor killed him, defying ragnarok prophecy in the Marvel universe. You cant quote Norse mythology and compare it to the Marvel Universe Thor. continued
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 mythology is MUCH different than comics. Thor has had a hard time fighting Ultron in comics. Beta Ray Bill BEAT thor BEFORE beta ray received Thor's power. Thor is physically, one of marvels strongest, but beneath Hulk AND hercules. The writer on Avengers even had the Wasp state that Hercules was physically stronger than Thor. What makes thor very powerful is his HAMMER. His hammer alone could wipe out everyone who's ever been an X Man. continued again....
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Thor has given up the "Odin power" recently in comics. He is at his original levels. He can routinely lift in excess of 100 tons. Compared to Superman, who in current continuity, can lift 100s of QUINTILLIONS of tons, this is NO CONTEST. The only reason Thor could go hand to hand against Supes in JLA/AVENGERS was because Marvel would NEVER sign a deal with any company and allow their characters to get smacked around like infants. Thor is my FAVORITE MU hero. continued...
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 BUT you cant make up stuff about a guy just because he's your favorite. Thor is the best in my book, because unlike Goku, who fights for pride or the Hulk, who fights because he's pissed, Thor fights for JUSTICE on behalf of people who cant fight for themselves. I would LOVE for Thor to be THAT powerful and be marvel's "superman", but he isnt. Marvel characteras sre generally weaker, power-wise than DC. Still, THATS what makes them awesome AND relatable. Bye.
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 By the way, There is "magic" involved in Thor moving the world tree. In mythology, youre referring to the 9 "worlds". Many of those "worlds" exist in or around Asgard herself usually in the marvel universe, and arent ACTUAL planets. They NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER have been actual planets in the marvel U. Fact checking. Its a bitch.
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Lol, I don't care what wasp says. She isn't all knowing. If she thinks someone is physically stronger than Thor, it doesn't mean crap. I know what I've seen in comics. Thor has stalemated Hercules in an armwrestling contest. If Thor goes into Warrior Madness mode, his strength multiplies by 10x and he is definitely stronger then. It's said many times that Thor holds back against mortals like Hulk and would never use more than 1/3 of his strength. Hulk is way below the gods.
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
@EyeS2pify Heres a "LOL" for you kid, then I'm done trying to educate you. When the WASP says something, she IS all-knowing. Because when SHE says something, its coming from the WRITER. and the WRITER IS all-knowing, but I'll call Marvel for you, on YOUR bahalf and I'll let the writers and editorial staff know that THEY dont know what theyre talking about because some anonymous pissant kid from youtube has decided that THEY, the owners of the property, dont know what theyre talking about. "LOL"
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 I have provided a valid argument for why Thor is stronger than those other people you mentioned. He has either proven their equals or greater when Thor is clam. If Thor went into Warrior Madness, his strength would increase and he would definitely be stronger. The only counter argument you gave is that Wasp said otherwise. Well going by your logic, Red Hulk said he would defeat Galactus, but wait, didn't he lose that fight? I guess it doesn't matter what a character says.
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
@EyeS2pify I dont just have Wasp's statement. I have a Thor collection going all the way back to 1976, without missing a single issue. Warrior madness is nonsense. I've seen this so-called warrior's madness during the infinity saga, and it didnt allow thor to beat Drax. In fact, Drax, in possession of the power gem, would have won. Thor is strong, not the strongest. In fact, his hammer is probably 90% of Thors abilities. He cant fly without it, etc.
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 What we really have here is the same thing I seem to encounter consistently on youtube. A younger, more inexperienced comic fan that picks a favorite hero, picks out the FEW examples of writer bias that justifies his argument about HIS hero being the "best" and quoting ONLY those, while ignoring DECADES of storytelling all around that stuff that refutes his opinion, simply because it doesnt support his argument. Dont ever become a lawyer kid...
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 Read Blood and Thunder. Odin says Thor was not in true Warrior Madness vs Drax, his mind was just fucked because of all the mental warping Odin did to his son over the years. Lol, I like how you call me an inexperienced fanboy. If you have so many facts that prove Thor is weaker, please, NAME SOME! All you've given is that Wasp comment, which I countered with my Red Hulk comment. A character saying something doesn't make it reliable. I gave a link to Thor stalemating Herc.
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 I'm not quoting Norse Mythology. I'm quoting comics. And I sent you a personal message with links to the comic where Thor fights the Midgar serpent and many other strength feats. I sent it well before you posted your last message. Go check your inbox. Midgar serpent may not be as big as the earth, but size doesn't always equal weight. The serpent is still really heavy and is somewhere between half as heavy as the Earth to the full weight of the planet. Face it, Thor is a god
EyeS2pify 8 months ago
@EyeS2pify I agree, Thor is a god. The rest of what you said is simply fanboy bias, based on the fact that you want your favorite to be the strongest. I wont try to reason with you because you will simply quote ONLY the things that support your OPINION and ignore the FACTS that dont. I might as well argue politics with Sarah Palin. Enjoy delusion. Medications can be a bitch though.
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 8 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 The midgard serpent is often shrouded in illusion and WAS at it's current massive size. Hence, in the Simonsen arc, he first appeared as Fin-Fang-Foom, and in the iss with Utgard-Loki, he appeared as a cat (and THAT was the time he almost destroyed the "nine worlds" - which in reality, are THE UNIVERSE ITSELF). He was STOPPED by Utgard-Loki before he tried using more of his strength to lift the "cat" for fear Thor would manage to destroy the "nine worlds" with such a feat.
RobertMfromLI 2 weeks ago
Hulk is stronger. As for who is more powerful???????????????
hulkthor1 9 months ago
@hulkthor1 The most Hulk has ever lifted was 150 billion tons. Thor moved Yggdrasil which is a lot more than 150 billion tons. Until Hulk comes near that feat, Thor remains stronger. Marvel also had a noncannon strength contest in the Savage Lands. Thor beat everyone: Hercules and Hulk, both tied for second; Wonderman got 3rd, Thing got fourth, ect. This doesn't mean Hulk doesn't have the potential, but as far as feats are concerned, the two strongest heroes in Marvel are Thor and Hercules.
staley1981 9 months ago
@staley1981 don't forget about avengers vs defenders: thor stalemeted the hulk for an entire hour despite Hulk continued to increment his strenght. And in hulk 440, Thor said that he was holding back.
pikppa 9 months ago
@pikppa that's right, I forgot about Defenders 10. Thanks for reminding me. Has Fernando shown you the scan of the weight lifting contest? It's pretty cool.
staley1981 9 months ago
@staley1981 no, but I would like to see that. Do you have that scans?
pikppa 9 months ago
Goku an Superman suck, theyre the heroes that win due to the fact that the fans just say so, for example superman wins for the sake that hes superman...
00MirageKnight00 9 months ago
Forget Thor, the Green Goliath can handle the whole Avengers Team by himself. Thor had difficulties beating Gladiator on his own, Hulk did it, with his sheer strenght only. Asgard knows the rage of the Hulk.
brucebanner2222 9 months ago
And who ever does not know the one above all he is tied with thor for the most powerful but the one above all can destroy anyone and anything including galactus and thanos jean grey, silver surfer anything and thor survive the blow and i think almost defeats him
JuneAssassin21 10 months ago
I have some issues of Thor beating Mangog and THEN Thanos in the same battle if you need to add them to your video! Yes, heck yes, Thor is the mightiest ..
kagiso3741 1 year ago 5
i always thought the super hero thor was incredibly to weak and never came close to living up to the myth of thor.if you speak of the mythic thor then yes he would be one of the strongest heroes,i mean he did carve the earth out of ymirs body after all.he was basically strength personified.
VixeVinweria 1 year ago
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playersinc209209 1 year ago
sorry but goku kills thor easly goku owns evry super here
barrowlatoya 1 year ago
@barrowlatoya That's fun
pikppa 1 year ago
@barrowlatoya nope lol
Colton5 1 year ago
Sorry Thor fans but the Only time Thor fought Superman (apart from all these fan made ones) was the crossover Marvel/ Dc and Thor loses.
Thor also fought Hulk many times, with or without the help of the avengers and most of the times he got defeated, you can check on internet or even on youtube and you'll find
About Hercules, they quite match their strength and skills but because of Odin taking his powers Thor ended up losing, but Thor is very powerful anyway
sampasing 1 year ago
@sampasing Thor always defeated or drawing the Hulk, only one time he lost. Hulk can never macht the son of Odino, he's lucky because Thor is a hero and never dreamed to kill him because of Banner. Or the big fat green monkey died many years ago.
pikppa 1 year ago 3
@pikppa Not to mention Thor went 1 on 1 & defeated Glory(a being w/ the power of 10,000 Gods) in Chaos War:Thor#1 & #2.And in the last issue of Chaos War, Thor summoned a Multiversal lightning that was powerful enough to hurt the Chaos King(who destroyed & absorbed 98,76% of the Marvel Mutliverse).I don't wanna know what would happen to Hulk or Superman if they got hit by a Multiversal Lightning.
bagsikdangal 1 year ago
@bagsikdangal you're right, thor also knocked down arishem, the celestial
pikppa 9 months ago
@pikppa
Well said. Also, that "sampasing" guy should remember that when Thor first encountered Superman, he floored him with ONE blow from Mjolnir and Supes was so weakened by it, he needed to double team with Martian Manhunter in order to strike back. A win for Thor methinks.
MeGrimlockMunchMetal 11 months ago
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@pikppa but i myself think the strongest being or god is the GOD OF THUNDER HIMSELF he can survive blows and strikes from the ONE ABOVE ALL WHO IS MATCHED WITH THOR FOR THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON OR GOD evar!!!!!!! search it up.
JuneAssassin21 10 months ago
@pikppa True, except for one thing...Thor has never lost to Hulk in a canon comic. Hulk can't knock out Thor, period -- no matter how hard he tries. All of their fights were left unresolved. If Thor intended on beating Hulk, he would have to go berserk and kill him any of a multiple of ways (brute force, God Blast, amped lightning, Anti-Force, Life-force drain, etc.).
Dynamo001 10 months ago
@Dynamo001 you're right, how can the hulk defeat thor?
pikppa 10 months ago
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@sampasing
I loved it when I heard Supes kicked the crap out of longhair, primitive thor. up there in asgard, they all fight with clubs, maces, swords, and even hammers
who fights with swords anymore?
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
@Piglatinsuperstar do you know what norse mythology is?
Xcoming2 1 year ago
@sampasing but i myself think the strongest being or god is the GOD OF THUNDER HIMSELF he can survive blows and strikes from the ONE ABOVE ALL WHO IS MATCHED WITH THOR FOR THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON OR GOD evar!!!!!!! search it up.
JuneAssassin21 10 months ago
@sampasing 1.) Thor fought Superfraud in a NON-CANON crossover, so, it doesn't count. 2.) Thor has never lost to Hulk in mainstream continuity. Before you open your mouth, learn the difference between what counts (canon) and what doesn't (non-canon).
The only thing you have right is that Thor lost to Herc because of Odin stripping Thor's powers during a fight with Herc to teach him a lesson about falling in love with a mortal (Jane Foster). Other than that, Herc isn't stronger than Thor.
Dynamo001 10 months ago
@Dynamo001
Thos is def one of the strongest. Perhaps on Asgard he beats them all but on Earth doesnt pack the same wallop, especially with the Avengers
Truthfully Dynamo I can't see Mantis taking Thor no matter how skilled she is in the martial arts
Remember the original Superbeast from 1966 "The people breeders" who possessed a scientific prowess along with advanced martial arts skills one million years in the future. Combined, he was enough of a threat to make all who live fear....
Piglatinsuperstar 9 months ago
however, Thor trounced him in hand to hand combat and Mantis has a serious matchup problem in the strength department
But someone like Gravitron, Grandmaster, Mangog, Mephisto, Galactus are too much for anyone
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Dynamo001 10 months ago
@sampasing I have that crossover(avengers/jla) indeed superman beats thor but just barely and thor states that if they fought again the outcome would be different. Also this was the version of thor without the odinforce which he now has.
deedock4life 10 months ago
@sampasing Also i have the marvel vs dc / Dc vs marvel crossover in which Thor beats Captain Marvel
A person who has fought superman to a standstill. Plus Thor has mystical skills which in the crossover (avengers/jla) he never uses. Also Superman should not be able to withstand strikes from his hammer seeing as it has mystical properties something in which the crossover never addresses.
deedock4life 10 months ago
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hulk is stronger than thor hulk almost killed thor
bullshark67 1 year ago
@bullshark67 Thor has killed Hulk on two occasions: one time he broke Hulk's neck in What if 45 ; the other time he impaled Hulk with a tree in Thor 73, volume 2. Both those times Thor didn't use Mjolnir.
staley1981 1 year ago
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Anyone who is been asked this question and actually has a CLUE , will say Dr.Manhattan , any answer other than that is just pure ignorance on CERTAIN FACTS
cowbellmooh 1 year ago
THOR is the best
hulk is like 5th best or 7th
Xcoming2 1 year ago 12
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@Xcoming2
Thor is not the best. Some woman from Avengers took him out twice using only martial arts skill (no superpowers)
I was never impressed with the weapons of the gods. everyone up in asgard uses either a hammer or mace. LOL!!
How primitive