...there is NO DEFINITION of the 'end of life' in the NHS, all your doctor has to do is decide you are at the end of it and decide any treatment for anything at all would be 'too burdensome' for you - we've already had a 22 year old with Downs refused treatment for a treatable PRE CANCEROUS breast lump here - she works full time and has her own flat! She pays tax and national insurance contributions, but apparently, her life isn't worth anything - how stupid do you have to be to do your work?
@iBeep2009 Just as in Nazi Germany, they label people with Downs and other disabilities "useless eaters". How DARE they write off so many beautiful people - I doubt that the hard hearted people who decide these things have ever met anyone with Downs.
As a student nurse who has seen this put into action, I take great offence at it being called Murder. It made the last few hours of a dying mans life ( A cancer patient who was SURE to die within hours), comfortable and peaceful. A patient dying in pain, and without dignity is much more of a problem.
@scrubs2007 As a member of the human race I make no apology for calling this evil Government genocide plan exactly what it is - the Liverpool Care Pathway is indeed MURDER, an ugly word, but a very accurate one.
This has nothing to do with kindly doctors easing the last hours of a dying person's life - it is the deliberate shunting of people into the next life by dehdration, and it is cruel and wicked.
If you are party to this wickedness then you have sinned against Almighty God.
Fuck off you condescending prick. I was putting my opinion into the conversation without being an arse. Its staff like you that put people off entering the profession, which will once again be a trigger of great problems in years to come. Your example is obviously that of great neglect and utter incompetence from the doctor. However not every professional with the power to utilise the LCP, uses it in such a reckless fashion.
@scrubs2007 You do realise that telling people to fuck off and calling them horrible names is not really a very good advertisement for the caring profession, don't you?
That may be the case, but I didn't enter into the conversation to be patronised and spoken to in that manner. I think my response to being insulted was justified, however I apologise if I caused offence to you.
@scrubs2007 If you really do genuinly care about people, and you entered the caring profession for all the right reasons, PLEASE look at what I am saying carefully. I'm not talking about kindly doctors slipping someone some extra morphine, to ease the suffering of dying patients, that is not the agenda of the Livcerpool Care Pathway, though you may suppose it is, that is what they are telling you front line care workers.
@scrubs2007 I have HUGE respect for people in the caring profession, who go into that profession to help relieve suffering and pain. Is there a nobler way to use your life than that? But that is what is so evil about the Liverpool Care Pathway - they are manipulating well meaning and kind hearted people to enforce their mass genocide - because that is what it is. They are making decisions about these people before they are at deaths door!
I can see your point, but I am only talking from my experiences, where I have seen the pathway utilised in the way it was meant to - to ease the suffering of a person who was DEFINATELY hours from death. I do agree however that it is shocking and horrendous that doctors are employing the pathway when they are not 100% sure the person is hours away from death.
@scrubs2007 I've got no intention of knocking people like you down, it is obvious to me that you are in the caring profession for all the right reasons. You are obiously a good and tender hearted person.
I just hate it that we have people in powerful positions of authority - ie Lord Falconer - who have vested interests in getting rid of "useless eaters" and that is why I have made this video.
Cool, Im more than happy to accept your opinion, and after researching further im aware have read articles where other people share your views. Its a touchy subject.
I didn't make this video in order to hurt people like you, but want to show that governments all over the world are, in fact, murdering people by deliberatly pushing for involuntary euphenasia.
You should not blame yourself over your father's death. It is very difficult when you are surrounded by people who you ought to be able to trust.
I pray to God, may your father rest in peace, and may your soul be healed of these sad memories.
My father was sedated and dehydrated by Gold Coast Hospice in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. We told them that he was sensitive to morphine and they gave it to him anyway and he slipped into a drug induced coma. I feel terrible about this. I am a liberal and I am not religious but I still have a conscience!
It could be that you did not realise that you have sanctioned murder, that you were tricked.
But you know now, and must turn away from your sin of sanctioning murder, lest you perish in eternal damnation.
Repent now, while there is still time. If you die in your sin, or if Jesus returns suddenly, as He promised that He would, and finds you unrepentant, then you will be in torment for ever.
I am from the U.S., and health care is a big debate in our presidential election. Do you think the euthanasia problem is related to having a socialized health system?
Murder is being committed in this country and no-one is being prosecuted. Are you going to sit on the fence over this issue? I warn you, sitting on fences is very dangerous - sooner or later, you will fall off!
...there is NO DEFINITION of the 'end of life' in the NHS, all your doctor has to do is decide you are at the end of it and decide any treatment for anything at all would be 'too burdensome' for you - we've already had a 22 year old with Downs refused treatment for a treatable PRE CANCEROUS breast lump here - she works full time and has her own flat! She pays tax and national insurance contributions, but apparently, her life isn't worth anything - how stupid do you have to be to do your work?
iBeep2009 2 years ago
@iBeep2009 Just as in Nazi Germany, they label people with Downs and other disabilities "useless eaters". How DARE they write off so many beautiful people - I doubt that the hard hearted people who decide these things have ever met anyone with Downs.
realzoomy 2 years ago
As a student nurse who has seen this put into action, I take great offence at it being called Murder. It made the last few hours of a dying mans life ( A cancer patient who was SURE to die within hours), comfortable and peaceful. A patient dying in pain, and without dignity is much more of a problem.
scrubs2007 2 years ago
@scrubs2007 As a member of the human race I make no apology for calling this evil Government genocide plan exactly what it is - the Liverpool Care Pathway is indeed MURDER, an ugly word, but a very accurate one.
This has nothing to do with kindly doctors easing the last hours of a dying person's life - it is the deliberate shunting of people into the next life by dehdration, and it is cruel and wicked.
If you are party to this wickedness then you have sinned against Almighty God.
realzoomy 2 years ago
Some students are a little thick - this is about INVOLUNTARY euthenasia nursie dear!
iBeep2009 2 years ago
Fuck off you condescending prick. I was putting my opinion into the conversation without being an arse. Its staff like you that put people off entering the profession, which will once again be a trigger of great problems in years to come. Your example is obviously that of great neglect and utter incompetence from the doctor. However not every professional with the power to utilise the LCP, uses it in such a reckless fashion.
scrubs2007 2 years ago
@scrubs2007 You do realise that telling people to fuck off and calling them horrible names is not really a very good advertisement for the caring profession, don't you?
realzoomy 2 years ago
That may be the case, but I didn't enter into the conversation to be patronised and spoken to in that manner. I think my response to being insulted was justified, however I apologise if I caused offence to you.
scrubs2007 1 year ago
Also, may I point out that my comment was not directed at you @realzoomy.
scrubs2007 1 year ago
@scrubs2007 If you really do genuinly care about people, and you entered the caring profession for all the right reasons, PLEASE look at what I am saying carefully. I'm not talking about kindly doctors slipping someone some extra morphine, to ease the suffering of dying patients, that is not the agenda of the Livcerpool Care Pathway, though you may suppose it is, that is what they are telling you front line care workers.
realzoomy 1 year ago
@scrubs2007 I have HUGE respect for people in the caring profession, who go into that profession to help relieve suffering and pain. Is there a nobler way to use your life than that? But that is what is so evil about the Liverpool Care Pathway - they are manipulating well meaning and kind hearted people to enforce their mass genocide - because that is what it is. They are making decisions about these people before they are at deaths door!
realzoomy 1 year ago
I can see your point, but I am only talking from my experiences, where I have seen the pathway utilised in the way it was meant to - to ease the suffering of a person who was DEFINATELY hours from death. I do agree however that it is shocking and horrendous that doctors are employing the pathway when they are not 100% sure the person is hours away from death.
scrubs2007 1 year ago
@scrubs2007 I've got no intention of knocking people like you down, it is obvious to me that you are in the caring profession for all the right reasons. You are obiously a good and tender hearted person.
I just hate it that we have people in powerful positions of authority - ie Lord Falconer - who have vested interests in getting rid of "useless eaters" and that is why I have made this video.
realzoomy 1 year ago
Cool, Im more than happy to accept your opinion, and after researching further im aware have read articles where other people share your views. Its a touchy subject.
scrubs2007 1 year ago
Marinagipps,
I didn't make this video in order to hurt people like you, but want to show that governments all over the world are, in fact, murdering people by deliberatly pushing for involuntary euphenasia.
You should not blame yourself over your father's death. It is very difficult when you are surrounded by people who you ought to be able to trust.
I pray to God, may your father rest in peace, and may your soul be healed of these sad memories.
realzoomy 2 years ago
My father was sedated and dehydrated by Gold Coast Hospice in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. We told them that he was sensitive to morphine and they gave it to him anyway and he slipped into a drug induced coma. I feel terrible about this. I am a liberal and I am not religious but I still have a conscience!
marinagipps 2 years ago
Gordon Broiwn,
It could be that you did not realise that you have sanctioned murder, that you were tricked.
But you know now, and must turn away from your sin of sanctioning murder, lest you perish in eternal damnation.
Repent now, while there is still time. If you die in your sin, or if Jesus returns suddenly, as He promised that He would, and finds you unrepentant, then you will be in torment for ever.
realzoomy 3 years ago
Murder is a sin.
It is a crime against God.
Unrepentant murderers will burn in hell.
Repent, Mr Brown, I urge you, before it is too late.
Do not die in your sin!
realzoomy 3 years ago
Murder is a very ugly and stark word.
Involuntary euthenasia sounds a lot kinder.
They both mean the same thing.
Gordon Brown and the rest of his gang have sanctioned this, with their Common Purpose.
The blood of the murdered souls cries out for vengence.
realzoomy 3 years ago
Yes I do!
realzoomy 3 years ago
I am from the U.S., and health care is a big debate in our presidential election. Do you think the euthanasia problem is related to having a socialized health system?
quemacha 3 years ago
Mr brown is unlikely to do anything about it, costs too much to keep the people alive & they need to free up the beds! Al a disgrace.
Great video, lovely to see you back Zoomie.
xx
MothersForJustice 3 years ago
Mr brown is unlikely to do anything about it, costs too much to keep the people alive & they need to free up the beds! Al a disgrace.
Great video, lovely to see you back Zoomie.
xx
MothersForJustice 3 years ago
Mr brown is unlikely to do anything about it, costs too much to keep the people alive & they need to free up the beds! All a disgrace.
Great video, lovely to see you back Zoomie.
xx
MothersForJustice 3 years ago
Mr Brown is not likely to do anything about it, its far too costly to keep these peole alive & they need the beds after all! A disgrace!
Great video Zoomy, lovely to see you back.
xx
MothersForJustice 3 years ago
Mr Brown,
Murder is being committed in this country and no-one is being prosecuted. Are you going to sit on the fence over this issue? I warn you, sitting on fences is very dangerous - sooner or later, you will fall off!
Speak, man, speak!
realzoomy 3 years ago