@Ingle92protege Never said God commanded it.. said God ALLOWED it. Many prophets in the Bible practiced plural marriage. In fact.. when King David fell after he lusted after Bathsheba, part of his punishment FROM GOD was the loss of his wives. Several other highly notable prophets were also polygamists, namely Abraham, Jacob, Solomon, etc. Solomon had over 700 wives at one point. God permitted it and these men are considered biblical prophets.
@Ingle92protege I guess you don't believe that ANY Christian for that matter will ever be President. Read the Bible... even God allowed plural marriage at times, and it's extremely sexist. Oh.. and billions of people believe in it too.
Americans are fucked up. Mitt Romney is probably the best candidate and im a swedish liberal, people laugh at his mormonism, but why is that worse then christainity or islam? which half of the pop believe in?
Hm, I was expecting actual bigotry or hatred. This, as far as it went, was extremely tame, and McCain himself backed away from it. No foul.
As for anti-LDS madness and devilry in 2012... save it for the "U.S. State Religion Election" in, uh... 2025. Yeah. It's coming; It will be big. This? Nah, this "presidential election" is peanuts. Not worth the energy. Whomever we elect now will have virtually no direct effect on the religious status of the country.
Imagine if speaking of Obama she had said, "And as far as that community organizing thing, he's a black and the blacks caused their problems in their own communities and to clean that up - it's not even, again it's not a subject." McCain's response that "the views of my mother are not necessarily the views of mine...." wasn't exactly a strong rejection of bigotry toward mormons. Hopefully, Obama will be a stronger advocate of overcoming hatred in any form than what McCain showed here.
" Investigators are looking into allegations that the city's Olympic organizers gave cash, scholarships, medical care and other gifts to International Olympic Committee members to win the right to host the 2002 Winter Olympics-- brides began 1980. Like Brigham Young said - rape them young, and "grease the wheels"-- "footdrdan", seek professional help your mentally ill.
this is the thing i hate about politics its like a free pass to slam other americans and what they believe when it comes to god, why is it we can take such a simple pure and natural thing like religion and find a way to bring hate prejudice and anger out of it? its really our own ego's that do it.. its what fuel prejudices from religion all the way to race and for someone who reads the bible that says we are all gods children to use god as a means to hurt another person is sick..
Why is it ok to bash mormons but not women, blacks, baptists etc in this political arena? People have come along way and may not be predjudice about women and race but they certainly must face themselves and realize they are still very predjudice about religion. ARE YOU?
Come on, she is the senator's mother... what is she... like a 1000 yrs old... let us not make a political issue out of the comments of a demented old woman.
She's just an old misinformed lady. Mormons are forgiving people. Don't wish death on her. I thought she was rather entertaining and she embarrassed her son. Ya got to love her for that.
I really, really hope you're not a Mormon. "I hope she dies soon"??? Yeah, that'll help our image as Christians. Personally, it gave me a laugh, and I loved the rather fixed smile that came over McCain's face as he listened.
Well none of that matters anyways because Mitt and Hillary are gonna both get the nominations, garunteed* Romney is causing a domino effect in the early states, and so is Hillary. they will both win the noms. by the way i was totaly kidding when i said i hope ehs edies because i really would hope death upon anyone. sorry if that offended anyone
dextermikey -- so where has your head been buried in the sand? lol, they sure as heck were -- Giving out Brigham Young University passes for kids and family of Olympic officials, free insurance from Mormon owned companies--- You a total nut case a liar like the flipper!
Read - Slam! Olympics "Olympic Scandal-Libyan IOC Members Resigns", January 22, 1999.
Attarabulsi's son Suhel, has said he recieved tuition at Brigham Young University and other Utah schools, plus 700.00 dollars a month for expenses. -- a littles testy today? Going to beat up on more innocent women and kids? The corruption began in an around 1980.
It seems that Chris Matthews has had it out for Romney ever since Romney humiliated Matthews on national television at the first GOP debate when Matthews asked Romney whether he thought that the government should allow the Catholic Church to withhold communion from Catholic politicians that support abortion.
I agree 100%. Had the issue involved Jewish people, black, or any other minority, there would be a massive uprising against this. But oh... it's okay... the Mormons have a history of being persecuted and having prejudice against them so I guess they can take it.
@mpetrie Mormonism is a laughable "religion" even more so than other religions as it is to blatantly untrue we can disprove most of it because it happened so recently, trying to disprove what happened 2000 years ago is a bit more difficult.
@mpetrie Well, to start with, Joseph Smith was a convicted con artist. That's a clue. Second, there is no evidence whatsoever that ANY God exists. Third, there is no evidence that anything in the BOM actually happened.
@Mozart1220 Need to do some more research. Joseph was NEVER convicted of anything. He was arrested on false charges and was never found guilty. Show me the court documents showing he was convicted. As for evidence of God, that would be applied to "debunking" ALL religions, not just Mormons. As for the BoM, we don't know the precise location of the events because the land described in the BoM takes place in South/Central America and the ancient history of these lands is still a work in progress.
@mpetrie I guess you have to go with what your "church" told you. I'll stick with the truth. JS WAS convicted as a con artist and told to find gainful employment or go to prison. So he conveniently met an "angel" who gave him "golden plates" only HE could translate, even though he was barely literate himself. And yes, I debunk ALL religions since they ALL are based on MYTH. You don't know the locations because they DON'T EXIST. Neither do the people. IT'S A MYTH.
@Mozart1220 Yeah... your proof is OVERWHELMING. Care to explain why ALL of the people who saw the gold plates AND the angel descend from heaven to show the plates NEVER retracted their witness of these events (even defending what they had seen up to their deaths) despite many of the turning against Joseph Smith later on? Why would they turn against him and claim he's a fallen prophet yet still maintain to their deaths their witness of the plates AND the angel from heaven?
@mpetrie Only Smith claimed to see the "angel" and of the 13 people who claimed to see the plates, 11 recanted later. I lived in SLC for 16 years and worked for Bonneville Communications. I know more about your history than you do. Give up.
@mpetrie Being outside your "faith" and having no loyalty to it makes me more objective, yes. And Bonneville is the media arm of the Mormon Church. I edited the cassette versions of the BOM, the D$C, the Missionary guide, and every general conference for a decade, which meant I had access to not only those publications, but several high ranking members of the church. So yeah, it made me more knowledgable than you. Sorry. Them's the facts.
how odd.
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@Ingle92protege Never said God commanded it.. said God ALLOWED it. Many prophets in the Bible practiced plural marriage. In fact.. when King David fell after he lusted after Bathsheba, part of his punishment FROM GOD was the loss of his wives. Several other highly notable prophets were also polygamists, namely Abraham, Jacob, Solomon, etc. Solomon had over 700 wives at one point. God permitted it and these men are considered biblical prophets.
mpetrie 4 months ago
@Ingle92protege I guess you don't believe that ANY Christian for that matter will ever be President. Read the Bible... even God allowed plural marriage at times, and it's extremely sexist. Oh.. and billions of people believe in it too.
mpetrie 4 months ago
Americans are fucked up. Mitt Romney is probably the best candidate and im a swedish liberal, people laugh at his mormonism, but why is that worse then christainity or islam? which half of the pop believe in?
quezcatol 7 months ago
Hm, I was expecting actual bigotry or hatred. This, as far as it went, was extremely tame, and McCain himself backed away from it. No foul.
As for anti-LDS madness and devilry in 2012... save it for the "U.S. State Religion Election" in, uh... 2025. Yeah. It's coming; It will be big. This? Nah, this "presidential election" is peanuts. Not worth the energy. Whomever we elect now will have virtually no direct effect on the religious status of the country.
bravoalphahk 8 months ago
Mormons sure are an easy target. They get made fun of non-stop, and yet they don't miss a beat.
That's kinda like Christ...
brian8793 1 year ago
@brian8793 Yeah mormons are God-like...lol. Whatever.
philberz 6 months ago
Mitt Romney will be the NexT PresiDent of the USA>>>>>>>>>
FireYourJOB 1 year ago
@FireYourJOB I sure hope so.
strongsterrence 9 months ago
Say NO too Mitt in 2012 !!! Tell him to drink the blue kool-aid.........
sfaster 2 years ago
I AGREE AND I AM AMORMON
cassy337 2 years ago
I WILL RAPE YOU!!!
lmaozedong99 2 years ago
Imagine if speaking of Obama she had said, "And as far as that community organizing thing, he's a black and the blacks caused their problems in their own communities and to clean that up - it's not even, again it's not a subject." McCain's response that "the views of my mother are not necessarily the views of mine...." wasn't exactly a strong rejection of bigotry toward mormons. Hopefully, Obama will be a stronger advocate of overcoming hatred in any form than what McCain showed here.
statemibene 3 years ago
she is old now deal with it
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
@statemibene mormans have practiced racism against non-whites, for most of their history
llar87 1 year ago
for a women her age... she is very sharp!
ccwilki1 3 years ago
and racist...
gorrillaunit18 3 years ago
What "problem" is she talking about?
If there's a legitimate issue there, I mean one that's affecting the Mormons, then it's not necessarily a type of bigotry.
iaysen 2 years ago
hahaha. That's so funny!
lauraliz89 3 years ago
I'll give ya mormon ho!
gorrillaunit19 3 years ago
back into the fruit cellar, mother...
BurningLexicon 3 years ago 4
" Investigators are looking into allegations that the city's Olympic organizers gave cash, scholarships, medical care and other gifts to International Olympic Committee members to win the right to host the 2002 Winter Olympics-- brides began 1980. Like Brigham Young said - rape them young, and "grease the wheels"-- "footdrdan", seek professional help your mentally ill.
Sherlyjames 3 years ago
Roberta McCain is half U.S. American and half Mexican American.
eibarra 3 years ago
john mccain looks older than his mom
arnabmajumdar 3 years ago 2
LOL They look like husband and wife.
MJJLWolf 3 years ago 2
she is so funny
Johnrosssssss 3 years ago
yeah look at all the fuss they have made about Obama being "muslim"
The1ByTheSea 3 years ago
this is the thing i hate about politics its like a free pass to slam other americans and what they believe when it comes to god, why is it we can take such a simple pure and natural thing like religion and find a way to bring hate prejudice and anger out of it? its really our own ego's that do it.. its what fuel prejudices from religion all the way to race and for someone who reads the bible that says we are all gods children to use god as a means to hurt another person is sick..
ommy4all 3 years ago
Am i the only one that noticed Mathews laughs like this.....HA! and thats it and he literately sounds it out!
Msorensen307 3 years ago
Let her speak her mind she is a LADY. :)
timm9 3 years ago
she owned some slaves 1890
Minnesota4OBAMA 3 years ago 5
LOL. You ain't right
hatchbx 3 years ago
Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Africa, Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, China, North Korea, Kosovo don't 4 get Vietnam it's payback
Minnesota4OBAMA 3 years ago
Why is it ok to bash mormons but not women, blacks, baptists etc in this political arena? People have come along way and may not be predjudice about women and race but they certainly must face themselves and realize they are still very predjudice about religion. ARE YOU?
TresaRRR 4 years ago 2
It's the duty of reasonable people to criticize irrationality, whatever form it takes.
mlowry 3 years ago
His mom is a really cool lady with a lot of class... who spoke the truth. Too bad you cannot take it-- Romney is a fraud.
Sherlyjames 4 years ago
Agreed!
doston1 4 years ago
i hate MORMONS and will never vote for an ALIEN
jaystoner99 4 years ago
you are not a bigot.
bentanner 4 years ago
Warren Tompkins!
oddycee 4 years ago
Am I out or was the only purpose of bringing his mother to the media to show that he's not gonna die in the next election cycle.
kakaokaka 4 years ago
What the fuck is wrong with people in this country?? Who cares if he's a mormon??
When I vote I make sure the candidate is able to run the country and manage our government
cOmeAzuR 4 years ago 4
his mom is so stupid! I don't balme him for not letting her views neccesarily representing his.
funnyrybud 4 years ago
I am a Morman and I think she is a very sweet mis informed lady. I love McCains response! The whole thing was too cute!
cdn39 4 years ago
I think she is a very sweet and ***informed** lady, McCains mom is one bright light blub, not a dim wit like the Romneys.
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bentanner 4 years ago
Come on, she is the senator's mother... what is she... like a 1000 yrs old... let us not make a political issue out of the comments of a demented old woman.
abhish13 4 years ago 2
Its a good thing the general population is smarter than you Chris Matthews so they can see through your deception.
joejohey 4 years ago
She's just an old misinformed lady. Mormons are forgiving people. Don't wish death on her. I thought she was rather entertaining and she embarrassed her son. Ya got to love her for that.
WWJDCTR 4 years ago 2
I hope she dies soon. Mormons are not responsible for the scandals in salt lake. most of the people who put the olympics together are mormon :)
dextermikey2 4 years ago
I really, really hope you're not a Mormon. "I hope she dies soon"??? Yeah, that'll help our image as Christians. Personally, it gave me a laugh, and I loved the rather fixed smile that came over McCain's face as he listened.
TeetotalerPirate 4 years ago
Well none of that matters anyways because Mitt and Hillary are gonna both get the nominations, garunteed* Romney is causing a domino effect in the early states, and so is Hillary. they will both win the noms. by the way i was totaly kidding when i said i hope ehs edies because i really would hope death upon anyone. sorry if that offended anyone
dextermikey2 4 years ago
Yeah, I agree about the noms. Not thrilled with either one. In any case, thanks for clarifying!
TeetotalerPirate 4 years ago
That is how Mormons talk " hope you die soon', 'hope you burn in a fire', Mormons are very violent people, and self rightous about their violence.
Sherlyjames 4 years ago
yes, that is univerally true, obviously.
bentanner 4 years ago
dextermikey -- so where has your head been buried in the sand? lol, they sure as heck were -- Giving out Brigham Young University passes for kids and family of Olympic officials, free insurance from Mormon owned companies--- You a total nut case a liar like the flipper!
Sherlyjames 4 years ago
Yeah, you're a credible source with your mindless and ignorant hatred.
TeetotalerPirate 4 years ago
It was University of Utah passes you nutjob
footdrdan 3 years ago
Read - Slam! Olympics "Olympic Scandal-Libyan IOC Members Resigns", January 22, 1999.
Attarabulsi's son Suhel, has said he recieved tuition at Brigham Young University and other Utah schools, plus 700.00 dollars a month for expenses. -- a littles testy today? Going to beat up on more innocent women and kids? The corruption began in an around 1980.
Sherlyjames 3 years ago
It's nice to see that Matthews was laughing while someone made racist remarks! I think he should have been reprimanded for that.
stafforddw 4 years ago 5
It seems that Chris Matthews has had it out for Romney ever since Romney humiliated Matthews on national television at the first GOP debate when Matthews asked Romney whether he thought that the government should allow the Catholic Church to withhold communion from Catholic politicians that support abortion.
hlynnj 4 years ago 5
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mormons are not even christians
kasdri 4 years ago
Yes they are.
Baroque1750 4 years ago 6
I'm wondering, kasdri, what do you think you know to back up that statement?
Ltblmr 4 years ago
I agree 100%. Had the issue involved Jewish people, black, or any other minority, there would be a massive uprising against this. But oh... it's okay... the Mormons have a history of being persecuted and having prejudice against them so I guess they can take it.
Chris Matthews should not have laughed at that.
mpetrie 4 years ago 10
@mpetrie so much for religious freedom in this country or any freedom for that matter.
SuddenSparkles 4 months ago
@mpetrie Mormonism is a laughable "religion" even more so than other religions as it is to blatantly untrue we can disprove most of it because it happened so recently, trying to disprove what happened 2000 years ago is a bit more difficult.
DukeofWellington91 2 weeks ago
@DukeofWellington91 Really? You can disprove most of it? Go for it. I'm waiting.
mpetrie 2 weeks ago
@mpetrie Well, to start with, Joseph Smith was a convicted con artist. That's a clue. Second, there is no evidence whatsoever that ANY God exists. Third, there is no evidence that anything in the BOM actually happened.
Mozart1220 2 weeks ago
@Mozart1220 Need to do some more research. Joseph was NEVER convicted of anything. He was arrested on false charges and was never found guilty. Show me the court documents showing he was convicted. As for evidence of God, that would be applied to "debunking" ALL religions, not just Mormons. As for the BoM, we don't know the precise location of the events because the land described in the BoM takes place in South/Central America and the ancient history of these lands is still a work in progress.
mpetrie 2 weeks ago
@mpetrie I guess you have to go with what your "church" told you. I'll stick with the truth. JS WAS convicted as a con artist and told to find gainful employment or go to prison. So he conveniently met an "angel" who gave him "golden plates" only HE could translate, even though he was barely literate himself. And yes, I debunk ALL religions since they ALL are based on MYTH. You don't know the locations because they DON'T EXIST. Neither do the people. IT'S A MYTH.
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@Mozart1220 Yeah... your proof is OVERWHELMING. Care to explain why ALL of the people who saw the gold plates AND the angel descend from heaven to show the plates NEVER retracted their witness of these events (even defending what they had seen up to their deaths) despite many of the turning against Joseph Smith later on? Why would they turn against him and claim he's a fallen prophet yet still maintain to their deaths their witness of the plates AND the angel from heaven?
mpetrie 2 weeks ago
@mpetrie Only Smith claimed to see the "angel" and of the 13 people who claimed to see the plates, 11 recanted later. I lived in SLC for 16 years and worked for Bonneville Communications. I know more about your history than you do. Give up.
Mozart1220 2 weeks ago
@Mozart1220 Yep.. living here for less time than me and working for a communications company makes you a real scholar, doesn't it?
mpetrie 2 weeks ago
@mpetrie Being outside your "faith" and having no loyalty to it makes me more objective, yes. And Bonneville is the media arm of the Mormon Church. I edited the cassette versions of the BOM, the D$C, the Missionary guide, and every general conference for a decade, which meant I had access to not only those publications, but several high ranking members of the church. So yeah, it made me more knowledgable than you. Sorry. Them's the facts.
Mozart1220 2 weeks ago
@mpetrie Mormons ask for it.
Mozart1220 2 weeks ago
What's funny is that Chris Matthews is laughing and agreeing with her.
If a candidates mother blamed the jews for a scandal would Chris Matthews laugh the same way? I've only seen him say negative things about Romney.
BradleyZ32 4 years ago 9