The law keith references is very old grant you, but it was created to deal with KKK demonstrations. Nice to know he's supporting the rights of klans men every where. He needs to hire better writers/researches. He just keeps looking stupid.
What tv is keith watching? It was on every day all the time. They had no clear message, and they were allowed to break the law for most of their protest. The President and candidates all commented on the protesters. They're frustrated and angry, so what join the club. The rest of us have been busy working and looking for work! Anyone else able to take 3 months off to camp, do drugs, and have sex in public? Sorry I forgot harass the "pigs". Look up their goals it's shocking.
@Yarrick2k5 Well that's how most OWS protesters behave. Whiny kids who have their hands out. They're a waste of space which I'll take a wild guess and say that pretty much describes you as well. Sorry you won't get everything handed to you because you want it. Come join us in the real world.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian A swing and a miss with your wild guess. it's funny how you assume and judge my life even though you don't know a thing about me. Anyway, i won't reply after this. All i wanted to do was highlight your straw men and misguided criticism
@Yarrick2k5 Well let's say I know your type and considering you've run off I pretty much figure I nailed it pretty well. How exactly did I misrepresent myself? You do know just because you don't like someone else's opinion doesn't make them wrong right? The only thing OWS accomplished was creating police overtime.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian But you don't know who i am and am making a baseless supposition of who i am and then cowardly trying to demonise me to be some lay about. I have no problems with your oppinion nor did i mention anything against your oppinion. All i originally stated is that you used a common fallacy example - the straw man. And that you made the comparison to all media when really Olbermann only mentioned newsprint.
@Yarrick2k5 I asked how I misrepresented myself, and I didn't do that which is what a straw man does. He mentions all media. I'd watch beyond the first two minutes. Like I said I know your type. Btw the rest of us spell opinion with one "p". As to cowardly I know you wouldn't say a damn thing if we were in the same room, so don't even bother trying that route. So goodbye loser.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian I quote you 'Anyone else able to take 3 months off to camp, do drugs, and have sex in public' you assume that is all the OWS protest does. That's misrepresenting the entire movement. You've characterised them to be a horrible barbaric lot. When in fact they're just people irritated with the current economic situation and the whole culture in the world of finances. You pointing out the single spelling error proves you have nothing of value to argue.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian Also you regularly assume the 'type' of person i am. I put forward to you to name which Myers-Briggs type indicator i am them. If you name the one i am then I will concede and accept that you know what kind of person i am. Otherwise if you're wrong or don't do this then you might as well be glad that i can't bitch you across the internet
@Yarrick2k5 The more resistant you are the more I think I hit it on the head. I don't have time for a psychological survey to know your a loser though. So go away, but work on your spelling and grammar. lol So brave online.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian Non sequitur after non sequitur. You have nothing and all you play is the internet tough guy act. Lets not forget that humourous attempt at being a grammar nazi.
@Yarrick2k5 Yes and you said you would stop responding, but it seems I'm bothering you, but I have better things to do with my time. As to my attempt are you serious? lol you make mistakes in every post. Takes away from whatever point your trying to make my unwashed friend.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian I did say i wouldn't respond but sometimes ignorance and stupidity must be challenged. I was originally serious since the whole OWS movement and what it's trying to highlight is quite a serious issue. But you lack of seriousness and attempts at slander reveals your flaws both as a person and in your original statement. I've made my point quite clear a number of times now. And please, i have itches more bothersome than this little silly discussion.
@Yarrick2k5 Funny how I was regarding you as a rash. Something annoying and really of no consequence, but still needs to be dealt with. As to OWS there are series issues that need to be dealt with, but the people camping out and playing drums in the street have the worst solutions. It's a simple fact they're easily ignored and nothing will be changed. I think I yanked your chain, so I do believe I accomplished something besides educating. All and all I feel pretty good.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian What issues that must be dealt with then? I take valid criticism with respect but what you originally called them i had no respect for. They have the right to protest, and to keep the issue of crony capitalism and it's cancerous effect it has on society and politics open. And it's a little sad to see your self masturbatory egoism.
@Yarrick2k5 Nobody said they didn't have the right to protest. I encourage idiots like you everyday to express yourselves in this wonderful free society. What seems shocking to you is that someone objects. I'm curious do you know what the words you use mean? You liberal foot soldiers are so cute. Goodbye now some of us have to be productive today.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian You didn't object anything. You just characterised all OWS as 'take 3 months off to camp, do drugs, and have sex in public? Sorry I forgot harass the "pigs"' whilst I've met some of the protesters here in the UK down at the stock exchange there have been an array of people from many walks of life. There are even WW2 veterans and Nobel laureates in and supporting the movement. People who have done more than us two combined. So this proves you wrong.
@WhiteTrashBarbarian you might also want to drop the 'herr derr liberals' attitude and trying to insinuate your opponents as being unproductive. It really just highlights your immaturity.
Please watch my story "TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE" They hid my only evidence and lied about it then they made me "TAKE THE DEAL" or go to Prison for 9 + yrs. This is crazy stuff. They have given me 2 strikes and one more brush with the law of any kind will send me to "PRISON FOR LIFE"..... HELP MEEEEEEEE!
I have documents to PROVE my innocence but no one will even look at it. What is going on with this country???
@L0OOOooooOOOOOOOOL Nice comeback. I like Ron Paul, but it's idiots like you that back him that make me leery to give my support.
But yes, heaven forbid I offer a differing opinion on these "brave" souls of Occupy that you so adore. Ever wonder if the "brainwashed" aren't on both sides? Nah, of course you haven't. Shine on you "99%."
STOP SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) Bill & the free speech & censorship of the internet. Keep up the good work guys. Hey Congress it's we the people by the people remember?
@L0OOOooooOOOOOOOOL So you're just waiting for these people sleeping in parks to "fix it all for you?"
The "fat cats" will just change their minds, and because some hippies without an apparent personal responsibilities can sit in a park for months at a time your life will get better? Wow, keeping wishing and share some of those drugs with us...
Keith Olbermann as it wrong... If this was the Tea Party was doing this he would speak against it. I'm a shame a being a Democrat now.. Well after this it want be no more... I don't know what I'm going to become, but forget the demos..
Obama puts down Wall Street, but their is biggest backer.. He puts down the rich, but what is he.. A rich man.. He said he was a christian, but who does he pray to... You're here on the internet.. Look things up like I did.. Don't take my word.. See for yourself.. Then you can see all the lies he as said..
@06281957 trying to fix the damage of said lie. Bin Laden is dead Iraq is over stem cell research has restarted healthcare passed gays can serve openly that's a good amount of things done. What lies has he told if I may ask? I'm not being a smartass I honestly want to know.
What they said led the actions that caused the mess. If Fwank was truthful about Fannie, the situation could have dealt with years before, but he was one of the top 3 recipients of money from them, along with Obama, wow. Also This stimulus was a failed 'action'. If you blame Bush for the wars, you should blame both sides, they had to vote on it. Obama doesn't even vote on his wars, like Libya, he just goes in..
If we want a change ,we don't need to just go to the streets,
We have to stop supporting the billionaires economically , without using their banks , buying their products , etc
We have to continue educating each other about what is going on in this planet ,
the soldiers must know that they are not fighting for freedom , they are given their lives only for the global interests of the billionaire , if we continue fighting each other , we will end up destroying this planet,
@TransparentSea33 Just ignore stkt1986, it's not worth feeding the trolls, I've seen his other comments on Ocuppy Wallstreet and they're all the same, he's obviously just here to stir the pot.
The occupy wall street rally was planned by communists, anarchists and the far left loons. Anyone else participating in the protests are only useful idiots being used by the left wing radicals trying to collapse the free market economy. Please do not let the radicals use you. If you want to protest govt corruption, occupy the capital.
I don't have financial problems. I work for my money. I don't spend months bitching about how I deserve other peoples money. Thats the difference me and the OWS losers. I don't owe you shit. Get over it. Get a job. Oh, and take a shower. Nasty hippies.
@stkt1986 The only 'financial' problem OWS has (AS DOES/SHOULD EVERYONE WORLDWIDE) is an objection not bc others have more, its that THEY BUY THE GOVERNMENT WITH IT. You. Fool.
@stkt1986 what are you talking about? Protesting Wall St. isn't right because Wall St. had nothing to do with the Great Recession? Because GOP tax cuts in a time of wars and recession is good for the infrastructure and growth of the country? Because ending tax loopholes hurts THE MIDDLE CLASS? Keep arguing stupidity buddy, keep spewing ignorant rhetoric...the whole country knows its the Republicans and their 0.1% donors who ruined our economy and got richer and reelected for it.
@dalecampbl7 Barney Fwank " Fannie and Freddie are financially sound", and VP Joe Biden " The first person we called for advice was Jon Corzine", who 'misplaced' $1.2 BILLION , and Obama's failed 'stimulus'. You still blaming republicans? Really? Pathetic ! Like the losers at ows, they VOTED for this, they got it. These losers bitch about the government, but live off their government checks,they got what they voted for, they got what they earned, NOTHING !!
you know why I blame bush? IRAQ/AFGHAN = $2trillion....tax cuts = a couple $trillion .... and deregulation = $a few more trillion RECESSION. You keep pointing out at things that liberals have said...but point to some action you fool...open your eyes and EARS!!
Republicans are to blame. They have deliberately blocked any bills that the President wanted to put people back to work. Next stop for protesters should be Washington to pepper spray every fuckin Republican obstructionists. LET THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUTH. CIRCULATE THIS VIDEO AND EDUCATE THE WORLD. We are not an example of the best in human rights anymore. We are dying as a country.
@carlobari60 In his first two years of office, Obama had a Democratic Senate and House. He could of run the table, but did nothing for the working man. He is not for the working class, he just wnats people to think that he is.
@kn9ioutom Obama never has offered any serious tax reform or budget plans. The one budget plan he did come up with, was rejected by his own party in the Democratic Senate 99 to 1. Total lamb efforts throughout his tenure in the White House has got us where we are..
If you are not filthy rich and have a problem with these protestors, you're thinking clearly.
These people fight to PREVENT you from gaining by your own efforts. They demand Government take more and more from employers, which causes YOUR cost of living to go up and costs YOU a job.
OWS are your worst enemies, even if you're living on the dole. They demand more of the sort of Socialism that is currently destroying the USA and European nations. It all comes crashing down if they win.
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Well said. The middle class is also overtaxed, because 47% of people don't pay taxes at all. Everybody should pay their fair share! I think the working middle class should "occupy the OWS"!!
@oscarashes Sheesh, not the "47% of people don't pay taxes" dodge again. That's been long debunked. Those people don't pay INCOME taxes, but they pay payroll, sales, and other taxes. Surely it's fair to have a lower tax burden on the people with, y'know, less money? Meanwhile, taxes on the higher tax brackets are lower than they've been in decades.
And stop with the "Oooooh! Socialism!" crap. America's had an element of socialism since it began. It's not a monster under your bed.
@Prankster36 Okay then, let's look at it this way. Raise corporate tax from 38% to 90%. The government collects all this new money. Now what happens? Will the govt start redistributing the new money to the people? Can I expect a check? Sounds good, but it won't happen. The govt will keep the money for themselves and meanwhile business's will leave the country. Import tax for the working class- what a novel idea. And also, 47% of people don't pay income tax - that's a fact Jack!
I don't believe the Occupiers want to radically raise the corporate income tax. I see their main points as closing loopholes, getting rid of corporate welfare and getting corporate money out of politics. All reasonable requests. Those 47% don't pay income taxes because they don't make enough. They do, however, pay other taxes.
@xMadReaperx These are reasonable requests. Some corporations hardly pay any taxes all all because of the loop holes.(i.e GE). But these issues have to be dealt with by the government through legislative change. Picketing Wall Street isn't going do anything.. The OWC may have success by showing strong support in the upcoming elections. But still, when they speak of :"disparity of wealth", nothing will ever change that. In capitalism you will always have that downside.
Are there paid Right Wingers to troll where liberals gather? Is it some kind of campaign to make it look like they are the majority for those who just blindly follow the crowd? I hope Obama wins if for only to see all their heads burst.
My 99% fellows, it is time we stopped dreaming the American Dream. Start realizing it. What kind of future will a new graduate have if he/she owes tens of thousands of dollars in student loans, and yet has to settle for a ten dollars an hour job at Home Depot, Walmart, or Subway? Will we stay silent on our knees and succumb to the brutal oppression and hardships that the top 1% impose on us? NO, we will stand up and fight to take back our rights as the middle class of America.
Don't look to the US media for help with truthfully exposing the movement to the masses. The top 1% have bought the US media with hundreds of billions of dollars in TV commercials. These broadcasting companies will take their customers' side, not yours. The owners of Fox, ABC, NBC, ... will sell your children's future and your children's children's future, because their children will inherit billions of dollars from them while your children will drown in debt after graduation.
We need to do what Lincoln, Garfield and JFK tried before the privet cartel assassinated them, use Non interest U.S notes. Ron Paul is not suggesting anything new, hundreds of thousands had been killed as the Federal Reserve perpetuates war, poverty and welfare. America is already Nigger rich we just need our change back.
Yahoo you lie your bought.you mind your masters now ok.Boycott Yahoo their bought and paid for.Because our news stations has suppressed our news till no one watches it.I only watch you and RT.YouTube and their trying to take these from us. .Shame on America.
@1Littleagger You may be right...I was on a discussion page talking about Obama and the fact that congress has been blocking all of his economic programs and they blocked me from commenting. I didn't use any profanity and didn't threaten anybody. Now I have to go through extra security checks to check my email or comment on a news piece! Yahoo is officially FASCIST!!!
why no media coverage? Who owns the media? The people that own the media are who the protesters are against. Democracy is not freedom. The politicians are bribed by the corporate banking america. The corporate banking system wants SLAVES, they want a NWO, where people are serfs, they dont want freedom.
When, in reality, the MAIN message the protestors have been saying all along is that they're PISSED OFF with the BANKING SYSTEM and the people in the top 1% bracket of wealth screwing everyone over to the tune of BILLION DOLLAR bailouts sending everyone else to poorhouse and never being held accountable for it. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Unfortunately, I gave this video a thumbs up prematurely. I thought Olberman and his guest were going to engage in legit journalism. But, instead, he and his guest sugarcoated the true intentions of the protestors and chalked them up to a group of young, disgruntled college students pissed that they're out of work.
I just found out that my 20-year-old daughters boyfriend has been attending these 'occupy' events. I told him I thought they were for losers and complainers who always made excuses and blamed others for THEIR lack of success.He said 'shut the fuck up, old man!' I beat his ass on the neighbors front lawn. My daughter Heather says that when he gets out of the hospital, she wants nothing more to do with him, Finally!
I'm so proud of those people that are out there, I hope soon they'll have solid point in the political side. We know that which political party are for middle class and the poor, so when the time to vote , get the party of " No !"out from their offices!!
@Seasonchange1 You're proud of them? A group of people collectively unsure of how their own success would be defined?
There becomes a point when people need to stop pointing and saying "why does he/she have this and I don't" and just get to work themselves. It's surprising how things work out when you don't blame those more successful for your lack of actual effort. (No, sleeping in parks and standing in drum circles isn't actually "effort.")
I respect the Occupy movement. I've wept at the decline of the political left around the world, and I hate every one of you who has disrespected this protest. I wish you would either come to the table. Otherwise, all too soon, the only thing left for the poor to eat, will be the rich.
@RandallSavage Wherever the political Left have succeeded in this world, they have brought decline.
Look at Greece, France, the UK, the USA...
When they finally secure power, one is lucky to find any food on the shelves at all. Just ask a former resident of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Or a North Korean, or Cuban...
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Ummm, No. You're a fool. The left brings human beings with human failings. The right brings hatred and corruption. It's just the way of the world, and I pity you.
There are many movements, corporate and wall street bail out are bowel movements...... need not worry they will reap what they sow, its not as bad as its going to be, my words be marked, it will come and pass as does shit thru asses, except the shit will be landing on "their" heads, when we cant support the monsters that rip us off, they will perish by the very way the benefited initally, RESIST PEACEFULLY take responsibility, life isn't fair we don't need to make it more so, occupy your life
Occupiers, go home and liquidate dollars for physical gold. vote with your wallet. standing on the street asking Santa for more christmas presents is futile. without honest money and market interest rates; capitalism becomes the ugly, degenerate, misallocated, inefficient, distorted monster we are witnessing right now. We dont have capitalism; this is 99% the result of CENTRALLY PLANNED ECONOMICS. The most efficient vote against this is liquidating dollars for physical gold. Rosenbaum
@leftgibson how would u know what the ratings are on current? It's obvious by your response that this channel is over your head. Ignorant people should stick to FOX news to get their fix.
@61TUNER First, wipe your boyfriends shit off your fingers before you address me again, it stinks in here because of you. Now when you are servicing Michael Moore's little chode, do you have to hold up that giant boiler or does he do it for you???
@leftgibson YOUR HO-ASS MAMA IS MY BOY-FRIEND. YOUR LIVING PROOF I CORN-HOLED THE BUTT SLUT NINE MONTHS BEFORE"IT"SHAT YOU OUT. MY QUESTION? WHATS IT LIKE TO BE BORN A CRACK-BABY? GET BACK ON THE MANS NUT-SACK. YOU,RE SMELLING HIS JIZZ DRIPPING FROM YOUR SHIT PUSSY. PLUG IT UP BIYACH. AGAIN. THEN TELL YOUR DICK DADDY YOU,RE A PISS POOR PAID SHILL.
@61TUNER You sound angry, I understand that you are upset the police will not let you hand out candy on Halloween and you have to stay 1500 feet from all schools. There are several angry fathers and several sore young boys bottoms in your neighborhood so stop it! I suggest castration with a dull butter knife.
@leftgibson HOW CUTE. ANOTHER ADVOCATE OF EMILY POST? GUESS THAT MAKES YOU A PROGRAMMED DICK-RIDER. GO BACK TO YOUR KIDDIE PORN SITES. THE ONLY CHO-MO I SEE ON TY IS YOUR TREE JUMPING ASS. I,LL BET YOU REALLY LOVE LITTLE BOYS. PUT DOWN THE CANDY,MOVE AWAY FROM THE SAND-BOX. BUSH WHACKIN PETER PUFFIN PEDO. FURTHERMORE. YOU NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM SCHOOLS AND FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THEN THERE WONT BE ANY ANGRY PARENTS ANYWHERE. GAY LITTLE BITCH-ASS SHILL. LOLZ.
There is no wealth without commonwealth. Wealthy people should pay more taxes because they use more. In order to create their wealth they must have greater access to natural resources, infrastructure, and civic services either directly or indirectly. No one can say I did it all by myself.
I speak for the 99% of Americans who are sick and tired of this whole 'occupy' movement,....the cops should use clubs,stun-guns, pepper-spray, rubber bullets, dogs, water cannons, and if necessary, lead bullets, to get these losers out of our public parks, and back in their mothers basement, where they can live out their miserable existence without bothering us REAL Americans.....
If Obama had his way, Osama would still be free and alive.
“We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer – it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration’s approach. Torture is how you create enemies, not how you defeat them. Torture is how you get bad information, not good intelligence." Obama on Waterboarding
@VerumJusticia >>If Obama had his way, Osama would still be free and alive.
Obama had his way and now Osama is dead. >>“We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer – it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration’s approach.
No. There is absolutely no problem with obeying the U.S. laws and International laws. There is a problem of not upholding America's vaules of not torturing. The info that KSM gave...
Obama did not have his way, which is why Bush's waterboarding continued, which is why Osama is dead.
KSM gave valuable information about not only Osama's courier but plenty of other Al Qaeda activities globally, leading to far more Bush successes than just Osama bin Laden.
@VerumJusticia When G. H.W. Bush left office the unemployment rate was 7.5% When Clinton left office the rate was 4.1%. Look at the Clinton-Bush jobs chart and the Bush-Obama chart. When Bush left office we were losing 780,000 jobs per month. Obama stopped it. This is another example of a democart cleaning up a republican's mess. We have 20 straight months of job growth. Our economy would be better off without the republicans.
Read the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, the Federalist Papers, Bastiat's The Law. Know the history of USA or you can't support & defend it. Restore America 2012 Ron Paul RonPaul2012dotcom 1835 “Minute” on India written by Thomas Babington Macaulay; A government cannot be wrong in punishing fraud or force, but it is almost certain to be wrong if, abandoning its legitimate function, it tells private individuals that it knows their business better than they know it themselves.
Yes, the Democrats have assumed the power to seize our wealth and give it to whomever they like. They used power of government to kill American businesses to do favors for America's competitors and for their Party supporters. They sue companies like Boeing that try to get free of Democrat-run Unions controlling them.
That is Leftist, Fascist control over the means of production and redistribution of wealth.
And they are turning foreign invaders into a force to outvote Americans.
@VerumJusticia "They sue companies like Boeing that try to get free of Democrat-run Unions controlling them." Is that what Faux said? Democrats now control the NLRB and are sticking up for workers unlike before under Bush, the republicans controlled it and did nothing to stop ANY unfair business practices to protect their corporate masters. Boeing had plans to create a second plant in Everett, Washington, but since the labor union refused the 10 year strike bar, Boeing moved to South Carolina.
@lerngthngs They have that RIGHT. What was unfair about what Boeing did? Trying to stay competitive in business and NOT moving jobs overseas??? The Unions have DRIVEN jobs out of the country - and yet Boeing decided to try and keep manufacturing HERE, in the U.S.
You want government to FORCE things instead of democracy and freedom.
@ToddAldrich I don't want to live in a society where labor works for mininum wage. That doesn't help our living conditions. "They have that right". The unions have the right to bargain. And for their company to move to another state because the union doesn't agree not to strike for 10 years is wrong. Have republicans thought of their families? No, they defend big business again.
@lerngthngs Have you figured out why we import so much Chinese stuff?
1) Government seizing wealth from employers, driving up the cost of doing business.
2) Unions forcing employers to pay exorbitant benefits even if the company is doing poorly and the employees are not performing well.
General Motors crashed and burned but Obama STOLE OUR MONEY to bail out his union buddies. Too big to fail - and the union bosses put so much dues money in Democrat coffers.
@VerumJusticia You mean have I figured out why we import more than export to China? Chinese pay 2.5% U.S. pays 25%. You mean government taxes companies? I'd rather have the more union support than oil companies support. Unions have not always made great decisions, just like any other business. To generalize unions as a whole is, well republican. Union- Work better, live better (better than how republicans want you to live).
@lerngthngs Most labor would NOT work for minimum wage - hell even McDonalds pays well over Minimum wage in many areas! Why do you say such things? There is nothing to back that up - NOTHING.
Sure the unions have the right to bargain, and so does management - it is NOT wrong to move to where people are willing to be reasonable. Have YOU thought about the families in South Carolina??? No - you defend those who would otherwise drive those jobs overseas.
@ToddAldrich Why would I say that? Because it's true I don't want to live in a society that labor works for minimum wage. The conditions here would be worse for the working class and the poor. I don't defend South Carolina because they are the result of what happened in the first place with Boeing and the Union. Why would I defend jobs going overseas? Aren't republicans in love with globalization?
@lerngthngs Most labor doesn't work for minimum wage - a fact that shows you just how stupid your statement is. If the person is worth the money - they get paid. In fact, your unions actually prevent the good workers from earning MORE.
When you defend the Unions and what the NLRB is trying to do with Boeing you ARE supporting and defending and ENCOURAGING jobs to go overseas. You are just too blind to realize it. Republicans - at least the conservative ones, are in love with FREEDOM
Take a quick course in economics. If I work hard and develop a software program that makes a company $6M a year in profits, how much am I worth? Personally, I don't care for unions, even though they tend to get a minimum rate for employees. Simply because not all employees work as hard and efficiently as others and this makes it difficult to get a better rate for higher production. However without them, our wages could look like wages in China, comparatively speaking.
@traffikator I don't need a quick course - I AM an economist. You need a quick course in both economics and in reality instead of propaganda.
Tell me, are Doctors unionized? Are Chemical Engineers unionized? Seems THEY make BETTER wages than the union members do. It is a LIE that we would have China wages without Unions.
@traffikator >> If I work hard and develop a software program that makes a company $6M a year in profits, how much am I worth?
You have done your part to help the entire company profit. Good.
If you worked for yourself or went to the expense and trouble to create your own company, you would have more direct control over the income from your particular code. That's your choice.
I chose to create my own company rather than work for someone else.
@ToddAldrich Here we go with minimum wage again. I swear you don't comprehend anything. I was making a point that if republicans had there way, labor would be minimum wage or lower. Some want to eliminate it. They want to eliminate unions and villafy it. So when Boeing planned on moving to S.C. after the union refused to be blackmailed, do you think it was a coincidence they immediately started talking about moving out of state?
@ToddAldrich And I don't encourage moving jobs overseas. I encourage fair wages, the right to unionize, and employee rights. I don't support WalMart. I'm guessing you do. They have been a huge influence on businesses to either close or move overseas. And forcing the closure of competing retail stores. That is something that I cannot support. Manufacturing jobs and the economy is something I take seriously unlike our dumbass House republicans that are ignorant about job creation.
@lerngthngs >> the republicans controlled it and did nothing to stop ANY unfair business practices to protect their corporate masters
The Bush Admin sent the Justice Department to prosecute corporate crooks at Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing, Worldcom... are you ignorant of all this?
Obama just shoveled our money into their pockets to keep them out of court, then invited one of the biggest crooks, Rahm Emanuel ( of Freddie Mac ) to be his Chief of Staff.
@VerumJusticia No I'm not ignorant of all this. I know about the prosecutions, did Bush really have a choice? No. I never liked Rahm, but to say he's a criminal? I think that's going too far. Just like you went too far in "STOLE OUR MONEY" Just like you went too far in "seizing". I know you like to make fun of my name, I didn't want to spell out learningthings everytime I logged in so I shortened it.
@lerngthngs >> No I'm not ignorant of all this. I know about the prosecutions, did Bush really have a choice? No. I never liked Rahm, but to say he's a criminal?
Of course he had a choice. Obama chose to shovel our cash into their coffers to keep them out of court.
Rahm Emanuel on Board of Freddie Mac. Misreported profits by billions of dollars in order to deceive investors between the years 2000 and 2002
@VerumJusticia Like I said Rahm was never my guy so I will not defend him. As far as a choice, Bush had a choice, but nit much. I just went to the link you gave me, what a joke. it's just a blog with opinions. Might as well send me a link to a forum.
@lerngthngs I'm truly not making fun of your name. I'm making fun of your refusal to learn things, just as Todd says.
I may be going overboard on that. Maybe you are learning from the links I'm providing.
I can forgive the fact that mainstream media work VERY hard to deceive the public, to make Democrats look good and Republicans look bad. They happily rewrite history to fool the gullible public.
I bet you never even heard about Bush's work to liberate our nation from Petroleum with Hydrogen.
@VerumJusticia "I can forgive the fact that mainstream media work VERY hard to deceive the public, to make Democrats look good and Republicans look bad. They happily rewrite history to fool the gullible public."
And I can forgive you that you're gullible that you didn't mention FOX "NEWS". Also, maybe you've never heard of Keith Olbermann or watched his show- Countdown with Keith Olbermann. He is a liberal with a bias slant that goes after both sides, even the president.
@VerumJusticia (cont.) 3) Overseeing the operation of taking out Osama Bin Laden something Bush could not do.
4) Leading from behind in Libya and chasing Momar out of power. Something Reagan and Bush couldn't do.
BTW It was Obama who was against the (Iraq) war even before it started. So unlike Bush and Cheney brushing them off as volunteers and nothing more, he took military lives seriously and that's patriotic.
@VerumJusticia "Obama sent our military into a war of aggression against Libya, a nation that was not attacking anyone else." Was that like what the Bush Administration did with Iraq AND Afghanistan? No, Bush lied us into war with Iraq. "Even Obama spoke out against Bush's operation, which included waterboarding key people who had knowledge leading to Osama." Obama spoke out against TORTURE like he should have and anyone else who cares about the rule of U.S. law and International law.
@lerngthngs >> Was that like what the Bush Administration did with Iraq AND Afghanistan?
Not at all. Saddam started a war of aggression, sending his tanks into Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to conquer them. The USA led the charge to defeat him. The shooting did not stop in the 1990s and in 1998 Clinton committed our nation to military destruction of Saddam's regime. His attempt failed, Bush finished the job. Mission Accomplished.
Afghanistan WAS Al Qaeda's training center, attacking globally.
@VerumJusticia (cont.) Even Rumsfeld said that some information they received did not come from waterboarding. To the contrary of what YOU and others like Liz Cheney believe, no one credible has said waterboarding led to the whereabouts of Osama.
@VerumJusticia "The only credit Obama can claim is that he did not tell Bush's strike force to hold off from killing the guy, like Bill Clinton did."
First Bush did not have a "strike force". Obama the Commander in Chief asked the right questions and risked a lot by laying out a STRATEGY something the Bush Administration did not have in Iraq or Afghanistan. Oh and two more words Tora Bora. So the credit goes to the Obama Admin. and the navy seals.
@lerngthngs Of course Bush had a "strike force". He had Special Forces working on the Osama bin Laden hunt for a very long time. He laid out the strategy for hunting down Osama, something Obama spoke openly against.
@lerngthngs “The secret authorization of brutal interrogations is an outrageous betrayal of our core values, and a grave danger to our security. We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer – it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration’s approach. Torture is how you create enemies, not how you defeat them. Torture is how you get bad information, not good intelligence." - Barack (the idiot) Obama
@lerngthngs Biden, as well, was against the successful strategy Bush employed to locate and eliminate Osama bin Laden. Schieffer: “Can you Mr. Vice President envision a time where waterboarding can ever be used on anyone?” Biden: “No, no, it’s not effective” Schieffer: “It’s not effective?” Biden: “It’s not effective”
Don't ever vote for a Democrat. They are goddam liars.
@VerumJusticia Again, the whereabouts to Osama did not come from waterboarding.
"Saddam started a war of agression". That is not a reason for us to go to war. But that's the problem with right wing warmongers, they have absolutely no problems with STARTING wars because they have no regard for our military. They just brush them off as "volinteers".
Yeah Bush's strategy to locate Osama bin Laden was so successful that he took him out. Right! Bush didn't know where he was. He even said he didn't care to go after him. What kind of President wouldn't care about going after Osama? Someone whose daddy has ties to the terrorist - Carlyle Group. And if you believe the 9/11 conspiracy
The law keith references is very old grant you, but it was created to deal with KKK demonstrations. Nice to know he's supporting the rights of klans men every where. He needs to hire better writers/researches. He just keeps looking stupid.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
Keith is horrible
StonewallJackson26 1 week ago
i suggest you ask both the democrats and the republicans what is happening with your retiremant funds you gold and any other union funds too
wayne17700 3 weeks ago
I love how all these Ron Paul faggots hate Keith and his opinion on some of Ron Paul's stances, yet he is pretty much loved everywhere else.
TearsOfWar1 1 month ago
@TearsOfWar1 I don't like Keith and I don't really like Ron Paul either.......So FUCK YOU WITH A JEWISH PENIS!
CorkPhop 1 month ago
What tv is keith watching? It was on every day all the time. They had no clear message, and they were allowed to break the law for most of their protest. The President and candidates all commented on the protesters. They're frustrated and angry, so what join the club. The rest of us have been busy working and looking for work! Anyone else able to take 3 months off to camp, do drugs, and have sex in public? Sorry I forgot harass the "pigs". Look up their goals it's shocking.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 month ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian For starters Keith was talking about newspapers and not tv.
Secondly, nice straw man fallacy. Your description of the OWS protesters is really childish and holds absolutely no value.
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@Yarrick2k5 Well that's how most OWS protesters behave. Whiny kids who have their hands out. They're a waste of space which I'll take a wild guess and say that pretty much describes you as well. Sorry you won't get everything handed to you because you want it. Come join us in the real world.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian A swing and a miss with your wild guess. it's funny how you assume and judge my life even though you don't know a thing about me. Anyway, i won't reply after this. All i wanted to do was highlight your straw men and misguided criticism
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@Yarrick2k5 Well let's say I know your type and considering you've run off I pretty much figure I nailed it pretty well. How exactly did I misrepresent myself? You do know just because you don't like someone else's opinion doesn't make them wrong right? The only thing OWS accomplished was creating police overtime.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian But you don't know who i am and am making a baseless supposition of who i am and then cowardly trying to demonise me to be some lay about. I have no problems with your oppinion nor did i mention anything against your oppinion. All i originally stated is that you used a common fallacy example - the straw man. And that you made the comparison to all media when really Olbermann only mentioned newsprint.
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@Yarrick2k5 I asked how I misrepresented myself, and I didn't do that which is what a straw man does. He mentions all media. I'd watch beyond the first two minutes. Like I said I know your type. Btw the rest of us spell opinion with one "p". As to cowardly I know you wouldn't say a damn thing if we were in the same room, so don't even bother trying that route. So goodbye loser.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
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@WhiteTrashBarbarian I quote you 'Anyone else able to take 3 months off to camp, do drugs, and have sex in public' you assume that is all the OWS protest does. That's misrepresenting the entire movement. You've characterised them to be a horrible barbaric lot. When in fact they're just people irritated with the current economic situation and the whole culture in the world of finances. You pointing out the single spelling error proves you have nothing of value to argue.
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian Also you regularly assume the 'type' of person i am. I put forward to you to name which Myers-Briggs type indicator i am them. If you name the one i am then I will concede and accept that you know what kind of person i am. Otherwise if you're wrong or don't do this then you might as well be glad that i can't bitch you across the internet
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@Yarrick2k5 The more resistant you are the more I think I hit it on the head. I don't have time for a psychological survey to know your a loser though. So go away, but work on your spelling and grammar. lol So brave online.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian Non sequitur after non sequitur. You have nothing and all you play is the internet tough guy act. Lets not forget that humourous attempt at being a grammar nazi.
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@Yarrick2k5 Yes and you said you would stop responding, but it seems I'm bothering you, but I have better things to do with my time. As to my attempt are you serious? lol you make mistakes in every post. Takes away from whatever point your trying to make my unwashed friend.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian I did say i wouldn't respond but sometimes ignorance and stupidity must be challenged. I was originally serious since the whole OWS movement and what it's trying to highlight is quite a serious issue. But you lack of seriousness and attempts at slander reveals your flaws both as a person and in your original statement. I've made my point quite clear a number of times now. And please, i have itches more bothersome than this little silly discussion.
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@Yarrick2k5 Funny how I was regarding you as a rash. Something annoying and really of no consequence, but still needs to be dealt with. As to OWS there are series issues that need to be dealt with, but the people camping out and playing drums in the street have the worst solutions. It's a simple fact they're easily ignored and nothing will be changed. I think I yanked your chain, so I do believe I accomplished something besides educating. All and all I feel pretty good.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian What issues that must be dealt with then? I take valid criticism with respect but what you originally called them i had no respect for. They have the right to protest, and to keep the issue of crony capitalism and it's cancerous effect it has on society and politics open. And it's a little sad to see your self masturbatory egoism.
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@Yarrick2k5 Nobody said they didn't have the right to protest. I encourage idiots like you everyday to express yourselves in this wonderful free society. What seems shocking to you is that someone objects. I'm curious do you know what the words you use mean? You liberal foot soldiers are so cute. Goodbye now some of us have to be productive today.
WhiteTrashBarbarian 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian You didn't object anything. You just characterised all OWS as 'take 3 months off to camp, do drugs, and have sex in public? Sorry I forgot harass the "pigs"' whilst I've met some of the protesters here in the UK down at the stock exchange there have been an array of people from many walks of life. There are even WW2 veterans and Nobel laureates in and supporting the movement. People who have done more than us two combined. So this proves you wrong.
Yarrick2k5 1 week ago
@WhiteTrashBarbarian you might also want to drop the 'herr derr liberals' attitude and trying to insinuate your opponents as being unproductive. It really just highlights your immaturity.
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joanarc1111 1 month ago
Wbhat a left-wing tool Keith is....
SeattleMarksJoint3 1 month ago
Keith Olbermann? Heh. More like Keith DERPERMANN!!!
MrGreenPoop1000 1 month ago
@L0OOOooooOOOOOOOOL Nice comeback. I like Ron Paul, but it's idiots like you that back him that make me leery to give my support.
But yes, heaven forbid I offer a differing opinion on these "brave" souls of Occupy that you so adore. Ever wonder if the "brainwashed" aren't on both sides? Nah, of course you haven't. Shine on you "99%."
ccrosbie33 1 month ago
STOP SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) Bill & the free speech & censorship of the internet. Keep up the good work guys. Hey Congress it's we the people by the people remember?
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BlazinNSoul 1 month ago
@L0OOOooooOOOOOOOOL So you're just waiting for these people sleeping in parks to "fix it all for you?"
The "fat cats" will just change their minds, and because some hippies without an apparent personal responsibilities can sit in a park for months at a time your life will get better? Wow, keeping wishing and share some of those drugs with us...
ccrosbie33 1 month ago
He has a really big fucking head!
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TheAttentionSeeker1 2 months ago
Keith Olbermann as it wrong... If this was the Tea Party was doing this he would speak against it. I'm a shame a being a Democrat now.. Well after this it want be no more... I don't know what I'm going to become, but forget the demos..
06281957 2 months ago
Over educated? Education in America = Fail. Their list of demands is one of the dumbest things I've read all year.
deathofsmokey 2 months ago
Obama puts down Wall Street, but their is biggest backer.. He puts down the rich, but what is he.. A rich man.. He said he was a christian, but who does he pray to... You're here on the internet.. Look things up like I did.. Don't take my word.. See for yourself.. Then you can see all the lies he as said..
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bonita123303 2 months ago
I'm a Democrat.. But I not voting Democrat... I wish alot of the other Democrats vote for someone else.. If Bush lied, what as Obama been doing..
06281957 2 months ago
@06281957 trying to fix the damage of said lie. Bin Laden is dead Iraq is over stem cell research has restarted healthcare passed gays can serve openly that's a good amount of things done. What lies has he told if I may ask? I'm not being a smartass I honestly want to know.
darkwarriorkane 2 months ago
@06281957 Trying to fix this country. The Cons in congress are blocking everything he tries to do against what is right for the American people.
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cbasallie 2 months ago
What they said led the actions that caused the mess. If Fwank was truthful about Fannie, the situation could have dealt with years before, but he was one of the top 3 recipients of money from them, along with Obama, wow. Also This stimulus was a failed 'action'. If you blame Bush for the wars, you should blame both sides, they had to vote on it. Obama doesn't even vote on his wars, like Libya, he just goes in..
stkt1986 2 months ago
If we want a change ,we don't need to just go to the streets,
We have to stop supporting the billionaires economically , without using their banks , buying their products , etc
We have to continue educating each other about what is going on in this planet ,
the soldiers must know that they are not fighting for freedom , they are given their lives only for the global interests of the billionaire , if we continue fighting each other , we will end up destroying this planet,
arcnglrafael 2 months ago
@TransparentSea33 Just ignore stkt1986, it's not worth feeding the trolls, I've seen his other comments on Ocuppy Wallstreet and they're all the same, he's obviously just here to stir the pot.
lovesXtoXspoog 2 months ago
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The occupy wall street rally was planned by communists, anarchists and the far left loons. Anyone else participating in the protests are only useful idiots being used by the left wing radicals trying to collapse the free market economy. Please do not let the radicals use you. If you want to protest govt corruption, occupy the capital.
intrepidorator 3 months ago
Keith Olbermann = Liberal Bill O'reilly
skillcosby88 3 months ago
@skillcosby88 actually, he happens to be socialist. Big difference.
gerri577 2 months ago
I don't have financial problems. I work for my money. I don't spend months bitching about how I deserve other peoples money. Thats the difference me and the OWS losers. I don't owe you shit. Get over it. Get a job. Oh, and take a shower. Nasty hippies.
stkt1986 3 months ago
@stkt1986 The only 'financial' problem OWS has (AS DOES/SHOULD EVERYONE WORLDWIDE) is an objection not bc others have more, its that THEY BUY THE GOVERNMENT WITH IT. You. Fool.
TransparentSea33 2 months ago
@TransparentSea33 and they have more because they BOUGHT the government.
dalecampbl7 2 months ago
@dalecampbl7 Yea, ignore the facts, that's how these idiots ended up bitching on the streets.
stkt1986 2 months ago
@stkt1986 what are you talking about? Protesting Wall St. isn't right because Wall St. had nothing to do with the Great Recession? Because GOP tax cuts in a time of wars and recession is good for the infrastructure and growth of the country? Because ending tax loopholes hurts THE MIDDLE CLASS? Keep arguing stupidity buddy, keep spewing ignorant rhetoric...the whole country knows its the Republicans and their 0.1% donors who ruined our economy and got richer and reelected for it.
dalecampbl7 2 months ago
@dalecampbl7 Barney Fwank " Fannie and Freddie are financially sound", and VP Joe Biden " The first person we called for advice was Jon Corzine", who 'misplaced' $1.2 BILLION , and Obama's failed 'stimulus'. You still blaming republicans? Really? Pathetic ! Like the losers at ows, they VOTED for this, they got it. These losers bitch about the government, but live off their government checks,they got what they voted for, they got what they earned, NOTHING !!
stkt1986 2 months ago
you know why I blame bush? IRAQ/AFGHAN = $2trillion....tax cuts = a couple $trillion .... and deregulation = $a few more trillion RECESSION. You keep pointing out at things that liberals have said...but point to some action you fool...open your eyes and EARS!!
dalecampbl7 2 months ago
@TransparentSea33 The "fools" are sleeping in tents in the cold. I'm in a warm bed.
stkt1986 2 months ago
@stkt1986 this WORLD WIDE movement isn't about YOUR money, you nasty bitch! It's about sinister problems all over the world!
gerri577 2 months ago
@gerri577 You are correct, those worthless entitlement seekers are everywhere !!!
stkt1986 2 months ago
CLASS WAR ? OCCUPY WALL STREET IS THE FRONT LINE
kn9ioutom 3 months ago
Who cares what prick olbermann thinks or says ! Hes a liberal horses ass and only the sheep libs listen - and they are no bodies as well.
Birdsofprey1956 3 months ago
"Training wheels"
dnahulvey 3 months ago
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statewidegc 3 months ago
Keith Olberman is so full of shit it isn't funny. He is a prophet of idiocy!
77advisor 3 months ago
@77advisor
No, that would be all the people over at Fox News.
xMadReaperx 3 months ago
Republicans are to blame. They have deliberately blocked any bills that the President wanted to put people back to work. Next stop for protesters should be Washington to pepper spray every fuckin Republican obstructionists. LET THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUTH. CIRCULATE THIS VIDEO AND EDUCATE THE WORLD. We are not an example of the best in human rights anymore. We are dying as a country.
carlobari60 3 months ago
@carlobari60 In his first two years of office, Obama had a Democratic Senate and House. He could of run the table, but did nothing for the working man. He is not for the working class, he just wnats people to think that he is.
oscarashes 3 months ago
@oscarashes GOP SENATE FILIBUSTER RULES KILLED ALL REFORM !!!
kn9ioutom 3 months ago 6
@kn9ioutom Obama never has offered any serious tax reform or budget plans. The one budget plan he did come up with, was rejected by his own party in the Democratic Senate 99 to 1. Total lamb efforts throughout his tenure in the White House has got us where we are..
oscarashes 3 months ago
If you are not filthy rich and have a problem with these protestors, you're thinking clearly.
These people fight to PREVENT you from gaining by your own efforts. They demand Government take more and more from employers, which causes YOUR cost of living to go up and costs YOU a job.
OWS are your worst enemies, even if you're living on the dole. They demand more of the sort of Socialism that is currently destroying the USA and European nations. It all comes crashing down if they win.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Well said. The middle class is also overtaxed, because 47% of people don't pay taxes at all. Everybody should pay their fair share! I think the working middle class should "occupy the OWS"!!
oscarashes 3 months ago
@oscarashes Sheesh, not the "47% of people don't pay taxes" dodge again. That's been long debunked. Those people don't pay INCOME taxes, but they pay payroll, sales, and other taxes. Surely it's fair to have a lower tax burden on the people with, y'know, less money? Meanwhile, taxes on the higher tax brackets are lower than they've been in decades.
And stop with the "Oooooh! Socialism!" crap. America's had an element of socialism since it began. It's not a monster under your bed.
Prankster36 3 months ago
@Prankster36 Okay then, let's look at it this way. Raise corporate tax from 38% to 90%. The government collects all this new money. Now what happens? Will the govt start redistributing the new money to the people? Can I expect a check? Sounds good, but it won't happen. The govt will keep the money for themselves and meanwhile business's will leave the country. Import tax for the working class- what a novel idea. And also, 47% of people don't pay income tax - that's a fact Jack!
oscarashes 3 months ago
@oscarashes
I don't believe the Occupiers want to radically raise the corporate income tax. I see their main points as closing loopholes, getting rid of corporate welfare and getting corporate money out of politics. All reasonable requests. Those 47% don't pay income taxes because they don't make enough. They do, however, pay other taxes.
xMadReaperx 3 months ago
@xMadReaperx These are reasonable requests. Some corporations hardly pay any taxes all all because of the loop holes.(i.e GE). But these issues have to be dealt with by the government through legislative change. Picketing Wall Street isn't going do anything.. The OWC may have success by showing strong support in the upcoming elections. But still, when they speak of :"disparity of wealth", nothing will ever change that. In capitalism you will always have that downside.
oscarashes 3 months ago
If you are not filthy rich but have a problem with these protesters, you're a moron..
MsThebeMoon 3 months ago
Are there paid Right Wingers to troll where liberals gather? Is it some kind of campaign to make it look like they are the majority for those who just blindly follow the crowd? I hope Obama wins if for only to see all their heads burst.
MsThebeMoon 3 months ago
Liberals are dreamers. Republicans are realists. Republicans are employed. Liberals are walking the streets and asking for other peoples money.
oscarashes 3 months ago
....America LAUGHS at you occutards.....
corksterism 3 months ago
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My 99% fellows, it is time we stopped dreaming the American Dream. Start realizing it. What kind of future will a new graduate have if he/she owes tens of thousands of dollars in student loans, and yet has to settle for a ten dollars an hour job at Home Depot, Walmart, or Subway? Will we stay silent on our knees and succumb to the brutal oppression and hardships that the top 1% impose on us? NO, we will stand up and fight to take back our rights as the middle class of America.
ihytvm 3 months ago
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Don't look to the US media for help with truthfully exposing the movement to the masses. The top 1% have bought the US media with hundreds of billions of dollars in TV commercials. These broadcasting companies will take their customers' side, not yours. The owners of Fox, ABC, NBC, ... will sell your children's future and your children's children's future, because their children will inherit billions of dollars from them while your children will drown in debt after graduation.
ihytvm 3 months ago
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We need to do what Lincoln, Garfield and JFK tried before the privet cartel assassinated them, use Non interest U.S notes. Ron Paul is not suggesting anything new, hundreds of thousands had been killed as the Federal Reserve perpetuates war, poverty and welfare. America is already Nigger rich we just need our change back.
GovernMentalFreedom 3 months ago
the provocation of is wrong (hence the lack of coverage). the response is wrong (pepper spray anyone?). ...america :,(
formido20 3 months ago
Yahoo you lie your bought.you mind your masters now ok.Boycott Yahoo their bought and paid for.Because our news stations has suppressed our news till no one watches it.I only watch you and RT.YouTube and their trying to take these from us. .Shame on America.
1Littleagger 3 months ago 11
@1Littleagger I would recommend TYT.
LancePoint9 3 months ago
@1Littleagger You may be right...I was on a discussion page talking about Obama and the fact that congress has been blocking all of his economic programs and they blocked me from commenting. I didn't use any profanity and didn't threaten anybody. Now I have to go through extra security checks to check my email or comment on a news piece! Yahoo is officially FASCIST!!!
ecalebw 2 months ago
awesome Keith from Canada!!!
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oshmunnies 3 months ago
why no media coverage? Who owns the media? The people that own the media are who the protesters are against. Democracy is not freedom. The politicians are bribed by the corporate banking america. The corporate banking system wants SLAVES, they want a NWO, where people are serfs, they dont want freedom.
superpositivechange 3 months ago
Part 2
When, in reality, the MAIN message the protestors have been saying all along is that they're PISSED OFF with the BANKING SYSTEM and the people in the top 1% bracket of wealth screwing everyone over to the tune of BILLION DOLLAR bailouts sending everyone else to poorhouse and never being held accountable for it. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Yrhp8268 3 months ago
Part 1
Unfortunately, I gave this video a thumbs up prematurely. I thought Olberman and his guest were going to engage in legit journalism. But, instead, he and his guest sugarcoated the true intentions of the protestors and chalked them up to a group of young, disgruntled college students pissed that they're out of work.
Yrhp8268 3 months ago
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I just found out that my 20-year-old daughters boyfriend has been attending these 'occupy' events. I told him I thought they were for losers and complainers who always made excuses and blamed others for THEIR lack of success.He said 'shut the fuck up, old man!' I beat his ass on the neighbors front lawn. My daughter Heather says that when he gets out of the hospital, she wants nothing more to do with him, Finally!
corksterism 3 months ago
msnbc is WAY MORE BIAS than fox news, im not a rebulican but holy shit this is complete bull. PEACE
y494231002 3 months ago
@y494231002 too bad olbermann is not on msnbc.
ouresmayriim 3 months ago
I'm so proud of those people that are out there, I hope soon they'll have solid point in the political side. We know that which political party are for middle class and the poor, so when the time to vote , get the party of " No !"out from their offices!!
Seasonchange1 3 months ago 20
@Seasonchange1 i agree---it's obvious that obama and the democrats are against the poor and middle class, and always have been.
vote no more four years against obama----seasonchange sez so.
monk22yrs 3 months ago
@Seasonchange1 I agree. As soon as we get Obama and the Democrats out of office, the OWC will see some great changes for the working class.
oscarashes 3 months ago
@oscarashes tuff luck, ingonrant fool, obama has already been chosen by an elite class. get informed. And not by Faux!
gerri577 2 months ago
@Seasonchange1 You're proud of them? A group of people collectively unsure of how their own success would be defined?
There becomes a point when people need to stop pointing and saying "why does he/she have this and I don't" and just get to work themselves. It's surprising how things work out when you don't blame those more successful for your lack of actual effort. (No, sleeping in parks and standing in drum circles isn't actually "effort.")
ccrosbie33 1 month ago
When the political Left secure power, you will cry.
You should listen to the people who fled from Socialist oppression only to be horrified that it is taking control of the USA now.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
Keep the faith and peacefully protest!
Keith Olbermann is a hero just as Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC. Heroes for not falling for the disinformation on the 1% fox or faux network.
onerealkewlguy 3 months ago
@onerealkewlguy .....I AGREED! MSNBC the best news channel !! Of course we love Keith Olbermann !!
Seasonchange1 3 months ago
its time for OWS to get serious and fight back against the thug cops.
worldmayhem 3 months ago
I respect the Occupy movement. I've wept at the decline of the political left around the world, and I hate every one of you who has disrespected this protest. I wish you would either come to the table. Otherwise, all too soon, the only thing left for the poor to eat, will be the rich.
RandallSavage 3 months ago
@RandallSavage Wherever the political Left have succeeded in this world, they have brought decline.
Look at Greece, France, the UK, the USA...
When they finally secure power, one is lucky to find any food on the shelves at all. Just ask a former resident of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Or a North Korean, or Cuban...
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
@AmericaSpeakOut1 Ummm, No. You're a fool. The left brings human beings with human failings. The right brings hatred and corruption. It's just the way of the world, and I pity you.
RandallSavage 3 months ago
There are many movements, corporate and wall street bail out are bowel movements...... need not worry they will reap what they sow, its not as bad as its going to be, my words be marked, it will come and pass as does shit thru asses, except the shit will be landing on "their" heads, when we cant support the monsters that rip us off, they will perish by the very way the benefited initally, RESIST PEACEFULLY take responsibility, life isn't fair we don't need to make it more so, occupy your life
FINADDICT82 3 months ago
to watch movement live: livestream . com / global revolution (omit the spaces). You can also chat live there w/ people all over the word.
gerri577 3 months ago
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Occupiers, go home and liquidate dollars for physical gold. vote with your wallet. standing on the street asking Santa for more christmas presents is futile. without honest money and market interest rates; capitalism becomes the ugly, degenerate, misallocated, inefficient, distorted monster we are witnessing right now. We dont have capitalism; this is 99% the result of CENTRALLY PLANNED ECONOMICS. The most efficient vote against this is liquidating dollars for physical gold. Rosenbaum
MaxSchwierosenbaum 3 months ago
Poor Keith, now you are on a network that that has less viewers than the bowling channel.. Tooo Bad.....
leftgibson 3 months ago
@leftgibson how would u know what the ratings are on current? It's obvious by your response that this channel is over your head. Ignorant people should stick to FOX news to get their fix.
gerri577 3 months ago
@gerri577 Ha Ha Ha did Keith Olberman occupy your gaping anus in the shower after a workout at the Current Studio Gym?? Slap Slap slap...
leftgibson 3 months ago
@leftgibson HAHA! HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAID TO LET THE MAN OCCUPY YOUR SHIT-PUSSY?
61TUNER 3 months ago
@61TUNER First, wipe your boyfriends shit off your fingers before you address me again, it stinks in here because of you. Now when you are servicing Michael Moore's little chode, do you have to hold up that giant boiler or does he do it for you???
leftgibson 3 months ago
@leftgibson YOUR HO-ASS MAMA IS MY BOY-FRIEND. YOUR LIVING PROOF I CORN-HOLED THE BUTT SLUT NINE MONTHS BEFORE"IT"SHAT YOU OUT. MY QUESTION? WHATS IT LIKE TO BE BORN A CRACK-BABY? GET BACK ON THE MANS NUT-SACK. YOU,RE SMELLING HIS JIZZ DRIPPING FROM YOUR SHIT PUSSY. PLUG IT UP BIYACH. AGAIN. THEN TELL YOUR DICK DADDY YOU,RE A PISS POOR PAID SHILL.
61TUNER 3 months ago
@61TUNER You sound angry, I understand that you are upset the police will not let you hand out candy on Halloween and you have to stay 1500 feet from all schools. There are several angry fathers and several sore young boys bottoms in your neighborhood so stop it! I suggest castration with a dull butter knife.
leftgibson 3 months ago
@leftgibson HOW CUTE. ANOTHER ADVOCATE OF EMILY POST? GUESS THAT MAKES YOU A PROGRAMMED DICK-RIDER. GO BACK TO YOUR KIDDIE PORN SITES. THE ONLY CHO-MO I SEE ON TY IS YOUR TREE JUMPING ASS. I,LL BET YOU REALLY LOVE LITTLE BOYS. PUT DOWN THE CANDY,MOVE AWAY FROM THE SAND-BOX. BUSH WHACKIN PETER PUFFIN PEDO. FURTHERMORE. YOU NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM SCHOOLS AND FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THEN THERE WONT BE ANY ANGRY PARENTS ANYWHERE. GAY LITTLE BITCH-ASS SHILL. LOLZ.
61TUNER 3 months ago
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The Chinese know the proper way to handle occupiers - Remember Tiananmen Square? Maybe we could learn from China! Just sayin!
GOPkicksbutt 3 months ago
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There is no wealth without commonwealth. Wealthy people should pay more taxes because they use more. In order to create their wealth they must have greater access to natural resources, infrastructure, and civic services either directly or indirectly. No one can say I did it all by myself.
MrSteveSpears 3 months ago
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I speak for the 99% of Americans who are sick and tired of this whole 'occupy' movement,....the cops should use clubs,stun-guns, pepper-spray, rubber bullets, dogs, water cannons, and if necessary, lead bullets, to get these losers out of our public parks, and back in their mothers basement, where they can live out their miserable existence without bothering us REAL Americans.....
corksterism 3 months ago
If Obama had his way, Osama would still be free and alive.
“We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer – it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration’s approach. Torture is how you create enemies, not how you defeat them. Torture is how you get bad information, not good intelligence." Obama on Waterboarding
WRONG!
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia >>If Obama had his way, Osama would still be free and alive.
Obama had his way and now Osama is dead. >>“We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer – it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration’s approach.
No. There is absolutely no problem with obeying the U.S. laws and International laws. There is a problem of not upholding America's vaules of not torturing. The info that KSM gave...
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs
Obama did not have his way, which is why Bush's waterboarding continued, which is why Osama is dead.
KSM gave valuable information about not only Osama's courier but plenty of other Al Qaeda activities globally, leading to far more Bush successes than just Osama bin Laden.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
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@VerumJusticia When G. H.W. Bush left office the unemployment rate was 7.5% When Clinton left office the rate was 4.1%. Look at the Clinton-Bush jobs chart and the Bush-Obama chart. When Bush left office we were losing 780,000 jobs per month. Obama stopped it. This is another example of a democart cleaning up a republican's mess. We have 20 straight months of job growth. Our economy would be better off without the republicans.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
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@lerngthngs >> When G. H.W. Bush left office the unemployment rate was 7.5%
Are you some kind of idiot?
When Democrats took control of Congress in 2007, Bush had brought unemployment down to 4.6%.
Democrats had two years to f*ck things up - and they did - before Bush was out of office.
When Republicans controlled the presidency and Congress, employment improved and Federal tax revenues rose to the highest levels ever.
AmericaSpeakOut1 3 months ago
Oh look, its Mr. Irrelevant!
DeathToLiberalism 3 months ago
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Read the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, the Federalist Papers, Bastiat's The Law. Know the history of USA or you can't support & defend it. Restore America 2012 Ron Paul RonPaul2012dotcom 1835 “Minute” on India written by Thomas Babington Macaulay; A government cannot be wrong in punishing fraud or force, but it is almost certain to be wrong if, abandoning its legitimate function, it tells private individuals that it knows their business better than they know it themselves.
possumpistol 3 months ago
Yes, the Democrats have assumed the power to seize our wealth and give it to whomever they like. They used power of government to kill American businesses to do favors for America's competitors and for their Party supporters. They sue companies like Boeing that try to get free of Democrat-run Unions controlling them.
That is Leftist, Fascist control over the means of production and redistribution of wealth.
And they are turning foreign invaders into a force to outvote Americans.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia "They sue companies like Boeing that try to get free of Democrat-run Unions controlling them." Is that what Faux said? Democrats now control the NLRB and are sticking up for workers unlike before under Bush, the republicans controlled it and did nothing to stop ANY unfair business practices to protect their corporate masters. Boeing had plans to create a second plant in Everett, Washington, but since the labor union refused the 10 year strike bar, Boeing moved to South Carolina.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs They have that RIGHT. What was unfair about what Boeing did? Trying to stay competitive in business and NOT moving jobs overseas??? The Unions have DRIVEN jobs out of the country - and yet Boeing decided to try and keep manufacturing HERE, in the U.S.
You want government to FORCE things instead of democracy and freedom.
ToddAldrich 3 months ago
@ToddAldrich I don't want to live in a society where labor works for mininum wage. That doesn't help our living conditions. "They have that right". The unions have the right to bargain. And for their company to move to another state because the union doesn't agree not to strike for 10 years is wrong. Have republicans thought of their families? No, they defend big business again.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs Have you figured out why we import so much Chinese stuff?
1) Government seizing wealth from employers, driving up the cost of doing business.
2) Unions forcing employers to pay exorbitant benefits even if the company is doing poorly and the employees are not performing well.
General Motors crashed and burned but Obama STOLE OUR MONEY to bail out his union buddies. Too big to fail - and the union bosses put so much dues money in Democrat coffers.
That's Fascism for ya!
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia You mean have I figured out why we import more than export to China? Chinese pay 2.5% U.S. pays 25%. You mean government taxes companies? I'd rather have the more union support than oil companies support. Unions have not always made great decisions, just like any other business. To generalize unions as a whole is, well republican. Union- Work better, live better (better than how republicans want you to live).
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs Most labor would NOT work for minimum wage - hell even McDonalds pays well over Minimum wage in many areas! Why do you say such things? There is nothing to back that up - NOTHING.
Sure the unions have the right to bargain, and so does management - it is NOT wrong to move to where people are willing to be reasonable. Have YOU thought about the families in South Carolina??? No - you defend those who would otherwise drive those jobs overseas.
ToddAldrich 3 months ago
@ToddAldrich Why would I say that? Because it's true I don't want to live in a society that labor works for minimum wage. The conditions here would be worse for the working class and the poor. I don't defend South Carolina because they are the result of what happened in the first place with Boeing and the Union. Why would I defend jobs going overseas? Aren't republicans in love with globalization?
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs Most labor doesn't work for minimum wage - a fact that shows you just how stupid your statement is. If the person is worth the money - they get paid. In fact, your unions actually prevent the good workers from earning MORE.
When you defend the Unions and what the NLRB is trying to do with Boeing you ARE supporting and defending and ENCOURAGING jobs to go overseas. You are just too blind to realize it. Republicans - at least the conservative ones, are in love with FREEDOM
ToddAldrich 3 months ago
@ToddAldrich
Take a quick course in economics. If I work hard and develop a software program that makes a company $6M a year in profits, how much am I worth? Personally, I don't care for unions, even though they tend to get a minimum rate for employees. Simply because not all employees work as hard and efficiently as others and this makes it difficult to get a better rate for higher production. However without them, our wages could look like wages in China, comparatively speaking.
traffikator 3 months ago
@traffikator I don't need a quick course - I AM an economist. You need a quick course in both economics and in reality instead of propaganda.
Tell me, are Doctors unionized? Are Chemical Engineers unionized? Seems THEY make BETTER wages than the union members do. It is a LIE that we would have China wages without Unions.
ToddAldrich 3 months ago
@traffikator >> If I work hard and develop a software program that makes a company $6M a year in profits, how much am I worth?
You have done your part to help the entire company profit. Good.
If you worked for yourself or went to the expense and trouble to create your own company, you would have more direct control over the income from your particular code. That's your choice.
I chose to create my own company rather than work for someone else.
That's Capitalism. That's Freedom.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@ToddAldrich Here we go with minimum wage again. I swear you don't comprehend anything. I was making a point that if republicans had there way, labor would be minimum wage or lower. Some want to eliminate it. They want to eliminate unions and villafy it. So when Boeing planned on moving to S.C. after the union refused to be blackmailed, do you think it was a coincidence they immediately started talking about moving out of state?
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@ToddAldrich And I don't encourage moving jobs overseas. I encourage fair wages, the right to unionize, and employee rights. I don't support WalMart. I'm guessing you do. They have been a huge influence on businesses to either close or move overseas. And forcing the closure of competing retail stores. That is something that I cannot support. Manufacturing jobs and the economy is something I take seriously unlike our dumbass House republicans that are ignorant about job creation.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs >> the republicans controlled it and did nothing to stop ANY unfair business practices to protect their corporate masters
The Bush Admin sent the Justice Department to prosecute corporate crooks at Enron, Tyco, Global Crossing, Worldcom... are you ignorant of all this?
Obama just shoveled our money into their pockets to keep them out of court, then invited one of the biggest crooks, Rahm Emanuel ( of Freddie Mac ) to be his Chief of Staff.
History lesson. Lrn thngs today.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia No I'm not ignorant of all this. I know about the prosecutions, did Bush really have a choice? No. I never liked Rahm, but to say he's a criminal? I think that's going too far. Just like you went too far in "STOLE OUR MONEY" Just like you went too far in "seizing". I know you like to make fun of my name, I didn't want to spell out learningthings everytime I logged in so I shortened it.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
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@lerngthngs It is not the spelling that he is making fun of you for, it is your absolute refusal to listen to facts and to learn.
ToddAldrich 3 months ago
@lerngthngs >> No I'm not ignorant of all this. I know about the prosecutions, did Bush really have a choice? No. I never liked Rahm, but to say he's a criminal?
Of course he had a choice. Obama chose to shovel our cash into their coffers to keep them out of court.
Rahm Emanuel on Board of Freddie Mac. Misreported profits by billions of dollars in order to deceive investors between the years 2000 and 2002
wwwwakeupamericans-spree*blogspot*com/2008/11/new-obama-chief-of-staff-others-on.html
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia Like I said Rahm was never my guy so I will not defend him. As far as a choice, Bush had a choice, but nit much. I just went to the link you gave me, what a joke. it's just a blog with opinions. Might as well send me a link to a forum.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs I'm truly not making fun of your name. I'm making fun of your refusal to learn things, just as Todd says.
I may be going overboard on that. Maybe you are learning from the links I'm providing.
I can forgive the fact that mainstream media work VERY hard to deceive the public, to make Democrats look good and Republicans look bad. They happily rewrite history to fool the gullible public.
I bet you never even heard about Bush's work to liberate our nation from Petroleum with Hydrogen.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia "I can forgive the fact that mainstream media work VERY hard to deceive the public, to make Democrats look good and Republicans look bad. They happily rewrite history to fool the gullible public."
And I can forgive you that you're gullible that you didn't mention FOX "NEWS". Also, maybe you've never heard of Keith Olbermann or watched his show- Countdown with Keith Olbermann. He is a liberal with a bias slant that goes after both sides, even the president.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia (cont.) 3) Overseeing the operation of taking out Osama Bin Laden something Bush could not do.
4) Leading from behind in Libya and chasing Momar out of power. Something Reagan and Bush couldn't do.
BTW It was Obama who was against the (Iraq) war even before it started. So unlike Bush and Cheney brushing them off as volunteers and nothing more, he took military lives seriously and that's patriotic.
So who's is better on foreign
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs Bush's operation to take out Osama bin Laden succeeded.
Even Obama spoke out against Bush's operation, which included waterboarding key people who had knowledge leading to Osama.
The only credit Obama can claim is that he did not tell Bush's strike force to hold off from killing the guy, like Bill Clinton did.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia "Obama sent our military into a war of aggression against Libya, a nation that was not attacking anyone else." Was that like what the Bush Administration did with Iraq AND Afghanistan? No, Bush lied us into war with Iraq. "Even Obama spoke out against Bush's operation, which included waterboarding key people who had knowledge leading to Osama." Obama spoke out against TORTURE like he should have and anyone else who cares about the rule of U.S. law and International law.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs >> Was that like what the Bush Administration did with Iraq AND Afghanistan?
Not at all. Saddam started a war of aggression, sending his tanks into Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to conquer them. The USA led the charge to defeat him. The shooting did not stop in the 1990s and in 1998 Clinton committed our nation to military destruction of Saddam's regime. His attempt failed, Bush finished the job. Mission Accomplished.
Afghanistan WAS Al Qaeda's training center, attacking globally.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia (cont.) Even Rumsfeld said that some information they received did not come from waterboarding. To the contrary of what YOU and others like Liz Cheney believe, no one credible has said waterboarding led to the whereabouts of Osama.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs "some" information did not come from waterboarding? But critical information did.
Terror Expert: Keep Waterboarding — It Led SEALs to bin Laden
newsmax*com/Headline/bin-laden-death-waterboarding/2011/05/04/id/395199?s=al&promo_code=C348-1
Osama bin Laden killed: CIA admits waterboarding yielded vital information
telegraph*co*uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8491509/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-CIA-admits-waterboarding-yielded-vital-information.html
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia "The only credit Obama can claim is that he did not tell Bush's strike force to hold off from killing the guy, like Bill Clinton did."
First Bush did not have a "strike force". Obama the Commander in Chief asked the right questions and risked a lot by laying out a STRATEGY something the Bush Administration did not have in Iraq or Afghanistan. Oh and two more words Tora Bora. So the credit goes to the Obama Admin. and the navy seals.
lerngthngs 3 months ago
@lerngthngs Of course Bush had a "strike force". He had Special Forces working on the Osama bin Laden hunt for a very long time. He laid out the strategy for hunting down Osama, something Obama spoke openly against.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@lerngthngs “The secret authorization of brutal interrogations is an outrageous betrayal of our core values, and a grave danger to our security. We must do whatever it takes to track down and capture or kill terrorists, but torture is not a part of the answer – it is a fundamental part of the problem with this administration’s approach. Torture is how you create enemies, not how you defeat them. Torture is how you get bad information, not good intelligence." - Barack (the idiot) Obama
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@lerngthngs Biden, as well, was against the successful strategy Bush employed to locate and eliminate Osama bin Laden. Schieffer: “Can you Mr. Vice President envision a time where waterboarding can ever be used on anyone?” Biden: “No, no, it’s not effective” Schieffer: “It’s not effective?” Biden: “It’s not effective”
Don't ever vote for a Democrat. They are goddam liars.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia Again, the whereabouts to Osama did not come from waterboarding.
"Saddam started a war of agression". That is not a reason for us to go to war. But that's the problem with right wing warmongers, they have absolutely no problems with STARTING wars because they have no regard for our military. They just brush them off as "volinteers".
lerngthngs 3 months ago
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@lerngthngs >> "Saddam started a war of agression". That is not a reason for us to go to war.
That's a wild and crazy assertion. You would have been okay with him seizing control of Middle East oil then choking off the USA?
Saddam STARTED the war of conquest, murdering and pillaging, and we put a stop to it.
That's what the Good Guys do.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia
Yeah Bush's strategy to locate Osama bin Laden was so successful that he took him out. Right! Bush didn't know where he was. He even said he didn't care to go after him. What kind of President wouldn't care about going after Osama? Someone whose daddy has ties to the terrorist - Carlyle Group. And if you believe the 9/11 conspiracy
maybe that's why.
Torture is not American it's republican.
lerngthngs 3 months ago