i agreee with adamruiz if they couldint relase the trilogy in animorphic wide screen they could have at least allowed us to zoom in and watch it with the subtitles on one line there is no excuse for it but if you have a dvd player with a view button you may be able to view the movie zoom in with the subtitles
@jamesmanortiz So yeah... have the picture be way smaller than it needs to be is a lot better. It's a shit release and it was intentionally shit which makes it worse. You go fuck yourself.
I hate the 2004 special editions i have the Original Versions on DVD. I dont see why Lucas hates the original version why couldnt he just remaster them they way they should have been done in the first place as the original movie. Good review dont buy this set for the Original Trilogy.
I like your video, it's a lot better than the usual "I'll review my video collection by waving the case in front of the camera" upload.
However, if your camera has a manual focus and manual exposure option, those would help tremendously, particularly for having the tv image not appear so washed out in the video.
It's funny you mention Masters of the Universe and Street Fighter since the live Mystery Science Theatre panel at Youmacon did those in 2008 and 2009. Hilarious.
@Knightmessenger Thanks. I did this video over 3 years ago on my digital camera. I've gotten 2 new video cameras since then so a lot of these issues I hope won't be a problem anymore.
why do the subtitles get cut off like that? Are the subtitles actually part of the picture while the new version, the subtitles are adjustable? Can you at least turn off the subtitles in the old version?
The subtitles are not burned in, but if you zoom in your using your tv, they won't scale up. because they're placed in a 4:3 video frame.
Surprisingly, the subtitles on the widescreen laserdisc were formatted on one line just below the video frame so those won't get cropped off as easily.
Calm down, if must let out some anger... buy some DVDs. But then I'm not really bothered about some adult who dresses up and calling a me a cunt... that is just funny.
You came in here calling me names. Obviously you have some issues. I have no problem with my maturity level. I hope you're content with being a little bitch. Actually no, I don't, I want you to be miserable because you're a piece of shit.
You have issues with someone fooling around and having fun. This will ultimately be a hinderance to your happiness. I hope you find no joy in life because of your hateful attitude.
plus you wasted your money on that "peice of shit"
whats so bad about it, do you want actual jedi to come out of the screen and train you no? its a movie just shut your immature ass up and watch the movie
x-box definately is stupid. limited number of games & you need an extra chip to play DVDs. Im not into video games so much but Ps2 is waaaaaaay better higher selection of games & you can watch DVDs without needing any stupid chip
You can't truly say that with a straight face. It was nothing like game had a kinda nonsensical plot and really bad acting. Ok i guess those last to things are present in some of the greatest movies of all time. But really street fighter.
That has to be the absolute most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. I will never take anything you have to say seriously ever again (should I ever actually pay any attention to anything you ever have to say again that is). Street Fighter is one of the worst films ever made. Calling it an "excellent movie" is hilarious.
ghetto art whoot! did u ever opt for an xbox? Thanks for the clarification on the presentation of the movies, dam subtitles! Gremlins 2 :D haha "not an issue" "screw that"
the original versions are not in anamorphic widescreen becouse they are non-canon! you should not be wanting to watch thows old things the new vershion has better FX,better scenes,better sound,and better every thing! the only thing thats wrong with the new version is that han dos not shoot first but thats the only thing wrong with it! so stop bitching and watch the REAL version of the movies!
I'm not debating that it's colourfull. If that was the only criteria then Viva Pinata and Dora the Explorer would have the best covers ever. I just wish they'd the original poster art or something. The mish mash of real people pictures looks lame.
some DVDs don't contain bonus features that were on LaserDisc releases. For example The CAV LaserDisc Box Set of The Lion King featured a number of bonus features including a half hour documentary called the making of the lion king. Most of those bonus features didn't make it to the DVD. That is one reason why LaserDisc rarely can be better than DVD.
That isn't a trait of the format itself, just a matter of choice by the studio. They could easily put all bonus features on any or all DVDs or laserdiscs. Criterion rereleased many of their laserdiscs as DVDs and included everything from the LDs, and sometimes more. I am a huge extras freak (I've actually bought a few DVDs more for the extras than the film itself) so the more I can get the better (well at least if it is quality, not just lame advertisements, and EPKs)
Well there's also the convenince of not having to flip a DVD 1/3 of the way through the movie. Extras in the laser disc world means more and more difficult to handle discs.
DVD is way better than LaserDisc when I compare the two images together, Example when the DVDs of Jurassic Park, The Little Mermaid, and The Lion King were released I bought them, but before I watched them I pulled out my LaserDiscs of the movies and compared them to the DVD and I saw a huge difference in the Audio/Video quality. DVD was much better than LaserDisc in Quality & Sound.
The differences in quality between your Laserdiscs and DVDs probably has much more to do with the video mastering than anything else. Your comparison is totally valid between the specific movie releases you looked at, but not between the formats as a whole. The capabilities of Laserdisc in video quality are as good as DVD.
The DVDs you looked at used newer mastering technologies that weren't available in the Laserdisc era. If anamorphic Laserdiscs were being made today using the mastering techniques we have now they would definitely be at least as good in picture quality as the DVD's, possibly better depending on the player used to watch them (it is an uncompressed analog format so no artifacting).
That's only because at the time LDs were made S-video was the best you could get. And actually some of the last LD players did come with component outputs and even integrated DVD players as well. It is very likely that were LD's still being made today they could have adopted some of the modern technologies that are used in, but not dependent on the DVD format, they could easily be anamorphic, progressive, and look excellent if played on a top of the line player through component cables.
The entire point is that DVD does have it's benefits over LD, but inherently better picture is not one of them. LD hasn't had the chance to adopt the same advances that DVD has simply because it died long before most of them were even around. When LD was fading away anamorphic video, progressive scan, and component outputs weren't even standard technologies on all DVDs or DVD players yet, and didn't become widespread for years. Who's to say that they couldn't have also been worked into LD?
-Small library? That is so wrong I don't even know how to respond to it. Again, research would help you there.
-Introduced third console? You might remember (or not I guess) that it was Sony who actually introduced a third console with the Playstation, and it definitely didn't ruin the industry.
-No asian support? Who cares? All Xbox did was show that a system doesn't NEED "asian" support to be a success. Good games can come from anywhere, not just Japan.
But the picture quality is the same.And laserdisc can be widescreen as well.I have 1997 version of Empire Strikes Back on DVD burned from laserdisc and it got perfect print and widescreen.
That's a bootleg and there was surely some processing done to get that to look like it does. It's like upscaling. You're not getting something from nothing.
actually i think its because laserdisc were not copyright protected since very few people used them with a DVD you have to bypass the copyright protection resulting in the copied disc having almost perfect print as oppossed to the laserdisc copied version which has perfect print but yeah my laserdisc copied DVD has widescreen
Actually both VHS and Laserdisc can present anamorphic video, it's just that the VHS and LD players don't have the capabilities to convert the video for a 4:3 TV the way a DVD player does. There were a few anamorphic Laserdiscs released. No VHS I know of, but it is technically possible. If you set your DVD player to "16:9" mode, and then recorded that video onto a VHS tape you could play that VHS through your 16:9 tv and stretch it out to fill the whole screen the same way you would a DVD.
Sure and the PlayStation 1 can have widescreen but it looks like shit. I can't imagine there were ever any anamorphic VHS tapes though I certainly understand making one would be possibly. I question the usefullness of an anamorphic laser disc as, unlike a DVD player, a laser disc player would be completely unable to format an anamorphic laser disc to play on a 4:3 and therefore would have been useless to a very large majority of laser disc player owners at the time.
Sure 16:9 TVs are all the rage now but in the day most high end TVs were still 4:3. It seems completely silly and I still question that it's true. And you'd just be stretching out the picture without any better picture quality so it's just going to end up looking worse in the end.
You said that VHS and Laserdisc "can't be anamorphic". That is completely untrue. Both formats are capable of delivering anamorphic video. There were no official anamorphic VHS releases that I know of but there actually were anamorphic laserdiscs released. You don't have to "question" it, you can actually do the research and find out for yourself (you've heard of google perhaps?).
You are correct about progressive scan, but whether or not a DVD looks better than a laserdisc is completely subjective. Laserdisc is an analog format, so the quality of the image you get from it is dependent on the quality of the player you use. It is also an uncompressed video format unlike DVD, which is a big benefit. A laserdisc played back on a top of the line player might very well look better than the same film on DVD. Quite impressive for a 30 year old format I'd say.
How sure are you exactly? You can't be that sure. The technology itself goes back as far as 1959 when it was created. The first public demonstrations of Laserdisc (then known as Disco Vision) was in 1972. The public release of Disco Vision was in late 1978. The original 1978 Disco Vision discs are playable in modern Laserdisc players. It's the same format.
And I said that the first public demonstration of Laserdisc was in 1972. That means the format is at least 35 years old. And it is still comparable in visual quality with DVD, which wasn't developed until almost 20 years later. DVD is much more convenient, and versatile, and was designed to work better with future advancements (progressive scan, and also with anamorphic correction built into the players) but on pure image quality it is not a huge leap over 35 year old Laserdisc technology.
And there have been plasma displays since 1964 but there's no sense in being ridiculous about them having been around for that long. You make a serious distinction between inception of technolgy in it's infancy that was never in any way successfull and the social and economic trends I'm talking about.
Laserdisc's infancy was in the 1960's when the early technology was being developed. It was shown in it's near final form in 1972, and they took some time working out some production problems before finally bringing it to market. If the experience and infrastructure of making CD's wasn't already in place DVD would have taken FAR longer to roll out than it did. Look how many years it took to get dual layer DVDs working (really the only new addition to optical disc technology offered by DVD).
Yeah well it's not a laser disc if it doesn't play in a laser disc player and it's not called a laser disc. A CD plays in a DVD player but a CD's not a DVD.
And I don't think anything developed in the 60s would play in a modern laser disc player.
Do you even have a DVD player or do you just spend too much time on Wikipedia?
You obviously can't grasp simple concepts. The original Discovision discs WILL play on modern Laserdisc players. It's the same format. And they are from 1978, which if your math fails you, is almost 30 years ago, which is what I originally said. If you had one of the original first CDs ever released it would play on a modern CD player. If you had one of the original Discovision discs it would play on a modern Laserdisc player. It's the SAME FORMAT.
I get it just fine. I'm talking about the old 60 stuff here. That stuff won't play on a modern laser disc player. It's not a laser disc simply because the concept is the same. An HD DVD uses the same data concept as a CD but HD DVD hasn't been around for all this time.
You are actually the ONLY one who is talking about the 60s stuff, because it has nothing to do with anything. You're the one who made the pointless "origins of the plasma screen" comment. I only mentioned that LD was DEVELOPED in the 60's as I actually talked about the final 1970s Laserdiscs that are actual LDs and play in modern players. I said that the LD format is 30 years old, and it is actually even older since it was first presented 35 years ago in it's known form.
CD and DVD are different formats but the manufacturing of them is very similar (another concept you seem to fail to understand), so there were already large numbers of factories up and running ready to start manufacturing the discs. Laserdisc was a new technology, and all the manufacturing infrastructure had to be created from scratch, hence a longer time between when the format was finalized and when it was mass produced for the public.
Of course I understand they're similar. This why I compared them. I simply meant that they are different. You wouldn't say DVD technology has been around since the creation of the CD just like you shouldn't say that laser disc has been around since 1960. It's not just proving the feasability of the technology. It's about actually working out the specifics of the format.
Also widescreen TV's have been around a lot longer than you seem to think. Laserdisc had less than 1% of the video market. Obviously the people buying it would be the same types to buy special anamorphic versions of films for their special widescreen standard definition TVs. Again research helps you know more about what you choose to talk about.
Also widescreen TV's have been around a lot longer than you seem to think. Laserdisc had less than 1% of the video market. Obviously the people buying it would be the same types to buy special anamorphic versions of films for their special widescreen standard definition TVs. Again research helps you know more about what you choose to talk about.
I'm not talking about how long they've been around. I'm talking about how long they've been widespread. Laser disc was huge in Japan. Widescreen not so much. They are behind us as far as HDTV goes.
Japan is behind us in HDTV? How much more absurd can you get? Japan had analog HDTV long before we had any HDTV. The original HDTV standards were developed in 1969 by NHK.
So widescreen SDTV's did exist (and actually were common as I would see them all the time at Best Buy in the mid 90's before HDTV's came on the scene) and anamorphic Laserdiscs that would take advantage of them DID exist. These are all things that are facts. Look them up for yourself.
HDTV is a north american standard. We had more channels in HDTV earlier than them. Asia is behind north america when it comes to HD. That's a simple truth. Just look at all the HD content we have!
I know widescreen SDTVs exist much as EDTVs did but that was hardly the norm back in the day.
And on widescreen TV's what is your point? Because it "wasn't the norm" means that it doesn't count, or that there couldn't possibly have been anamorphic Laserdiscs to take advantage of them? Well you would be wrong because anamorphic Laserdiscs DID exist whether you want to believe it or not. It's a fact. Widescreen SDTVs existed, and there were anamorphic Laserdiscs made to take advantage of them. DVD did not invent the idea of anamorphic video.
I accept that. I think it's silly and in no way the norm but I accept that. They are the norm for DVD. They were an unaccepted anomaly for laser disc. I don't deny any of this stuff you're saying I simply question the scope you seem to think things have.
Japan had the first HDTV system. The first HDTVs were analog. Since everyone else was BEHIND Japan when it came to HDTV they decided to adopt a digital system when they started getting into HDTV. Japan ALREADY HAD HDTV and they have simply updated to digital HDTV (or digital TV in general). HDTV is not a "North American" standard. The analog television standard used in North America is NTSC (also used other places as well, Japan for instance). The new digital replacement is called ATSC.
Not only were there anamorphic Laserdiscs, there was an HD form of Laserdisc for use with the analog HDTV's available in Japan. Again an example of how far ahead of the rest of the world Japan is with HDTV. It doesn't matter if we are now riding their coattails and just putting out more stuff. Without Japan's early steps forward into HDTV there would be no HDTV as we know it. Just like without Laserdisc there would be no CD's or DVD's. Laserdisc was the first laser based optical format.
Well HD Laserdisc was the same LD format in the way that VCD's are still CDs being used for a different purpose, but that has nothing to do with my point. My point is that Japan is far from behind us with HDTV. They seem to be so far ahead of us that you are looking back at them gaining on you, and not realizing that you aren't ahead, and they are actually lapping you.
I disagree. I think the major strides with the technology becoming widespread needed to be made in the west and that's why the technology was so slow to be adopted.
Sheer amount of content has nothing to do with who is ahead of who. As far as the technology goes Japan is far and away ahead of us. Who developed BOTH modern competing HD video disc formats? Sony and Toshiba. Gee, what country do both of those companies come from? Oh that's right, Japan.
Oh my, how sad. I never purchased them. But anyway, any tiume there is a new release, I take it and just apreciate it, because it's Star Wars! C'mon! Sure George Lucas is taking us all for a ride and just in it for the money, but you know what, I respect him because he made 3 years of my life that would have been hell without Star Wars, the most awesome years of my life. So yeah... I'm done!
I was very impressed with how the DVD transfers of the original versions looked, even though they are not anamorphic widescreen, the transfers do LOOK BETTER from the LaserDiscs they came from.
i got the special edition box set back in 2004 and i was a little comfused when i noticed the new things put in however i still enjoyed them and i enjoy them to this day, there is no way i am wasting my money on these dvds, if you want the originals without the new cgi stuff then its much cheaper to get them on Vhs
BRILLIANT!!!! I shall forward this to everybody I know. Ingenius.
But I do have one complaint. When you get the DVds, dont break the disc. How is Mr. Lucash going to know that you broke a DVD in the privacy of your own home. What you must do is take the DVD out of its case, break it if you want, and then mail it right back to Mr. Luca$ himself. Then he will know that we arent going to take anymore of his crap
use your dvd player remote it can frame it really good i have done that and it fixed the subtitle problem for me
JFL1988 1 month ago
You have pics wow.
ogradyfive 4 months ago
i agreee with adamruiz if they couldint relase the trilogy in animorphic wide screen they could have at least allowed us to zoom in and watch it with the subtitles on one line there is no excuse for it but if you have a dvd player with a view button you may be able to view the movie zoom in with the subtitles
JFL1988 1 year ago
2006 version is the best. you get the special edition, and the 1977 theatrical version!
Dgamer21 1 year ago
WELL DONT FUCKIN ZOOM IN
he hates you? GO FUCK YOURSELF
your so fucking stupid... just makes me laugh
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
@jamesmanortiz So yeah... have the picture be way smaller than it needs to be is a lot better. It's a shit release and it was intentionally shit which makes it worse. You go fuck yourself.
adamrulz 1 year ago
dont say any of that
ipie1000 1 year ago
@ipie1000 Did so...
adamrulz 1 year ago
I hate the 2004 special editions i have the Original Versions on DVD. I dont see why Lucas hates the original version why couldnt he just remaster them they way they should have been done in the first place as the original movie. Good review dont buy this set for the Original Trilogy.
DrWhovian87 1 year ago
I am NOT giving George Lucas any more of my money.
mjmanning123 2 years ago
I like your video, it's a lot better than the usual "I'll review my video collection by waving the case in front of the camera" upload.
However, if your camera has a manual focus and manual exposure option, those would help tremendously, particularly for having the tv image not appear so washed out in the video.
It's funny you mention Masters of the Universe and Street Fighter since the live Mystery Science Theatre panel at Youmacon did those in 2008 and 2009. Hilarious.
Knightmessenger 2 years ago
@Knightmessenger Thanks. I did this video over 3 years ago on my digital camera. I've gotten 2 new video cameras since then so a lot of these issues I hope won't be a problem anymore.
adamrulz 2 years ago
i think they could have done a better job with the original versions with subtitles we should complaine to george to make a better versions
JFL1988 2 years ago
why do the subtitles get cut off like that? Are the subtitles actually part of the picture while the new version, the subtitles are adjustable? Can you at least turn off the subtitles in the old version?
AVGN92 2 years ago
The subtitles are not burned in, but if you zoom in your using your tv, they won't scale up. because they're placed in a 4:3 video frame.
Surprisingly, the subtitles on the widescreen laserdisc were formatted on one line just below the video frame so those won't get cropped off as easily.
Knightmessenger 2 years ago
It is always hilarious seeing a childish person over react to movies.
JasonAWMaidstone 2 years ago
Did you laugh as hard as I did at your Dad's dick last time we fucked?
adamrulz 2 years ago
Like I said CHILDISH person
JasonAWMaidstone 2 years ago
And you're a repressed cunt who will die alone. Fuck off.
adamrulz 2 years ago
Calm down, if must let out some anger... buy some DVDs. But then I'm not really bothered about some adult who dresses up and calling a me a cunt... that is just funny.
JasonAWMaidstone 2 years ago
You came in here calling me names. Obviously you have some issues. I have no problem with my maturity level. I hope you're content with being a little bitch. Actually no, I don't, I want you to be miserable because you're a piece of shit.
adamrulz 2 years ago
Says the person who whines about a movies, dresses up and plays with lightsabers.
JasonAWMaidstone 2 years ago
You have issues with someone fooling around and having fun. This will ultimately be a hinderance to your happiness. I hope you find no joy in life because of your hateful attitude.
adamrulz 2 years ago
Yes of course I have issues *rolls eyes* I hate a film so much I pretend to break the DVD of it.
JasonAWMaidstone 2 years ago
Breaking a DVD took a lot less effort than this little tirade you've gone on.
adamrulz 2 years ago
And proves my point on how hilarious you geeky fans are.
JasonAWMaidstone 2 years ago 3
Thanks.
adamrulz 2 years ago
@adamrulz wtf you talking about your attitude is worse breaking a dvd
wtf is wrong with you, your an immature peice of shit
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
@jamesmanortiz Breaking something which is a piece of shit and an insult to movie history is not something I feel bad about.
adamrulz 1 year ago
@adamrulz how is it a peice of shit, its a movie
plus you wasted your money on that "peice of shit"
whats so bad about it, do you want actual jedi to come out of the screen and train you no? its a movie just shut your immature ass up and watch the movie
jamesmanortiz 1 year ago
they need to make a animorphic version of the original versions
JFL1988 2 years ago
does greedo shoot first on the bonus disc?
mdawgg13 3 years ago
nope. only han shoots.
jesusfreakrkg 2 years ago
but still i think we should do some thing and i have the original star wars dvd version and when i zoom in on it it works with the subtiles
JFL1988 3 years ago
yea but wouldint it be worth it to argue with him than to do nothing while he make money off us
JFL1988 3 years ago
Say it with your wallet. I didn't pay him for the original DVD versions, because there were no original movies on them.
adamrulz 3 years ago
are they going to relase a dvd box set with all six and animorpic verisons of the original and we should make a petion insted of doing nothing
JFL1988 3 years ago
No plans, though if we're asking for that, might as well just be asking for Blu-Ray.
I don't really have any faith in petitions, online or otherwise. Lucas is extremely stubborn on this issue.
adamrulz 3 years ago
I heard a mistake was made on the 2 disc set of star wars
JFL1988 3 years ago
what is the mistake ?
Riddler95 3 years ago
when are they going to relase the orignal star wars dvd's in animorpic wide screen
JFL1988 3 years ago
Probably never. Not until Lucas dies at least, and it's quite possible he actually has destroyed all original versions of the film.
adamrulz 3 years ago
just looked on imbd and the originals will be released in september.FOR REALL .but it will be limited edition untill december
yellowwasp09 3 years ago
I can't seem to find any evidence of this.
adamrulz 3 years ago
go to imbd(internet movie database) search empire strikes back, go to the movie's page and look at news- original star wars on dvd at last
yellowwasp09 3 years ago
That's in reference to September 2006, which is what I'm reviewing in this video...
saunders316 3 years ago
sorry it said news so i belived it was recent now i see that you're right,my mistake sorry again,hope i didn't make you mad or something
yellowwasp09 3 years ago
this september
yellowwasp09 3 years ago
dose anyone know what dvd cases the discs come in i am trying to find back up cases in case the plastic breakes
JFL1988 3 years ago
x-box definately is stupid. limited number of games & you need an extra chip to play DVDs. Im not into video games so much but Ps2 is waaaaaaay better higher selection of games & you can watch DVDs without needing any stupid chip
PakistanKnight 3 years ago
Yes... but Xbox has far better graphics and a much better online program.
chrisgottschalk1 3 years ago
you didint break the dvd you put a cd r in cuts
JFL1988 3 years ago
did you really brake the dvd or was that a dvd cd r please responde
JFL1988 3 years ago
Totally real!
adamrulz 3 years ago
That's for killing Boba Fett 30 minutes into Return of hte Jedi BITCH!!!!
Shaanyboi 3 years ago
Good Review and good criticism in the first 6 minutes of the vid. But, the review just becomes crazy and gets out of control at 06:01.
Proofpoochie 4 years ago
ur fukin gay
parlame8 4 years ago
Did you actually break the disc? I have a feeling you may have sneaked a CD-R in there between cuts...
passthesalt2000 4 years ago
The force is strong with this one...
adamrulz 4 years ago
Why the hell do you own Street Fighter
blowshimselfupdude 4 years ago
Because it's an excellent movie.
adamrulz 4 years ago
You can't truly say that with a straight face. It was nothing like game had a kinda nonsensical plot and really bad acting. Ok i guess those last to things are present in some of the greatest movies of all time. But really street fighter.
blowshimselfupdude 4 years ago
That has to be the absolute most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. I will never take anything you have to say seriously ever again (should I ever actually pay any attention to anything you ever have to say again that is). Street Fighter is one of the worst films ever made. Calling it an "excellent movie" is hilarious.
TimmyKennethy 3 years ago 6
why did you brake the dvd you should have sold it on ebay
JFL1988 4 years ago
It's all special effects...
adamrulz 4 years ago
lol
BaronJac 4 years ago
yeah Gamecube!
henkman00 4 years ago
little yoda rockss!!! XD
123456cephiro 4 years ago
ghetto art whoot! did u ever opt for an xbox? Thanks for the clarification on the presentation of the movies, dam subtitles! Gremlins 2 :D haha "not an issue" "screw that"
die2knowyouloveme 4 years ago
Yeah I have a 360. I never tried putting these movies in to see what it did though.
adamrulz 4 years ago
you don't know anything about starwars dvd so don't talk about it
xxraihaxx 4 years ago
the original versions are not in anamorphic widescreen becouse they are non-canon! you should not be wanting to watch thows old things the new vershion has better FX,better scenes,better sound,and better every thing! the only thing thats wrong with the new version is that han dos not shoot first but thats the only thing wrong with it! so stop bitching and watch the REAL version of the movies!
ObiRobKenobi2 4 years ago
You are everything that's wrong with Star Wars.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Why do you say the cover-art of these DVDs are bad?
The discs from the boxed sets look worse. I like the cover arts on these as they are more colourful
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago
I don't have the box set. It's lame.
adamrulz 4 years ago
it is lame and so is the cover art but these have better colouring so i dont see whats so bad about this cover art
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago
I'm not debating that it's colourfull. If that was the only criteria then Viva Pinata and Dora the Explorer would have the best covers ever. I just wish they'd the original poster art or something. The mish mash of real people pictures looks lame.
adamrulz 4 years ago
LaserDisc still looks excellent but its 2007 now, and newer and better things have come out.
Riddler95 4 years ago
some DVDs don't contain bonus features that were on LaserDisc releases. For example The CAV LaserDisc Box Set of The Lion King featured a number of bonus features including a half hour documentary called the making of the lion king. Most of those bonus features didn't make it to the DVD. That is one reason why LaserDisc rarely can be better than DVD.
Riddler95 4 years ago
Yeah I still have a lot of Sailor Moon laser discs which contain things never released on DVD.
adamrulz 4 years ago
exactly right, also with very few DVDs you have to flip the side or change the disc to finish the movie.
Riddler95 4 years ago
That isn't a trait of the format itself, just a matter of choice by the studio. They could easily put all bonus features on any or all DVDs or laserdiscs. Criterion rereleased many of their laserdiscs as DVDs and included everything from the LDs, and sometimes more. I am a huge extras freak (I've actually bought a few DVDs more for the extras than the film itself) so the more I can get the better (well at least if it is quality, not just lame advertisements, and EPKs)
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
Well there's also the convenince of not having to flip a DVD 1/3 of the way through the movie. Extras in the laser disc world means more and more difficult to handle discs.
adamrulz 4 years ago
DVD is way better than LaserDisc when I compare the two images together, Example when the DVDs of Jurassic Park, The Little Mermaid, and The Lion King were released I bought them, but before I watched them I pulled out my LaserDiscs of the movies and compared them to the DVD and I saw a huge difference in the Audio/Video quality. DVD was much better than LaserDisc in Quality & Sound.
Riddler95 4 years ago
The differences in quality between your Laserdiscs and DVDs probably has much more to do with the video mastering than anything else. Your comparison is totally valid between the specific movie releases you looked at, but not between the formats as a whole. The capabilities of Laserdisc in video quality are as good as DVD.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
The DVDs you looked at used newer mastering technologies that weren't available in the Laserdisc era. If anamorphic Laserdiscs were being made today using the mastering techniques we have now they would definitely be at least as good in picture quality as the DVD's, possibly better depending on the player used to watch them (it is an uncompressed analog format so no artifacting).
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
To my knowledge laser discs have never been available in progressive scan and players output in s-video at best.
adamrulz 4 years ago
That's only because at the time LDs were made S-video was the best you could get. And actually some of the last LD players did come with component outputs and even integrated DVD players as well. It is very likely that were LD's still being made today they could have adopted some of the modern technologies that are used in, but not dependent on the DVD format, they could easily be anamorphic, progressive, and look excellent if played on a top of the line player through component cables.
TimmyKennethy 3 years ago
The entire point is that DVD does have it's benefits over LD, but inherently better picture is not one of them. LD hasn't had the chance to adopt the same advances that DVD has simply because it died long before most of them were even around. When LD was fading away anamorphic video, progressive scan, and component outputs weren't even standard technologies on all DVDs or DVD players yet, and didn't become widespread for years. Who's to say that they couldn't have also been worked into LD?
TimmyKennethy 3 years ago
Give me 3 reasons why Xbox is stupid??
donvito2288 4 years ago
- Small library of games
- Ruin the gaming industry by introducing a 3rd console which ultimately costs the end gamer
- No asian support
adamrulz 4 years ago
-Small library? That is so wrong I don't even know how to respond to it. Again, research would help you there.
-Introduced third console? You might remember (or not I guess) that it was Sony who actually introduced a third console with the Playstation, and it definitely didn't ruin the industry.
-No asian support? Who cares? All Xbox did was show that a system doesn't NEED "asian" support to be a success. Good games can come from anywhere, not just Japan.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
why do people compare VHS to laserdisc? Laserdisc has DVD quality piture as long as you dont scratch it.
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago
DVD can be anamorphic. Laser disc can not.
adamrulz 4 years ago
But the picture quality is the same.And laserdisc can be widescreen as well.I have 1997 version of Empire Strikes Back on DVD burned from laserdisc and it got perfect print and widescreen.
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago
VHS can be widescreen but old formats like VHS and laser disc can't be anamorphic or progessive scan.
adamrulz 4 years ago
But In terms of picture quality LD & DVD are the same.
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago
That's a bootleg and there was surely some processing done to get that to look like it does. It's like upscaling. You're not getting something from nothing.
adamrulz 4 years ago
actually i think its because laserdisc were not copyright protected since very few people used them with a DVD you have to bypass the copyright protection resulting in the copied disc having almost perfect print as oppossed to the laserdisc copied version which has perfect print but yeah my laserdisc copied DVD has widescreen
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago
Actually both VHS and Laserdisc can present anamorphic video, it's just that the VHS and LD players don't have the capabilities to convert the video for a 4:3 TV the way a DVD player does. There were a few anamorphic Laserdiscs released. No VHS I know of, but it is technically possible. If you set your DVD player to "16:9" mode, and then recorded that video onto a VHS tape you could play that VHS through your 16:9 tv and stretch it out to fill the whole screen the same way you would a DVD.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
Sure and the PlayStation 1 can have widescreen but it looks like shit. I can't imagine there were ever any anamorphic VHS tapes though I certainly understand making one would be possibly. I question the usefullness of an anamorphic laser disc as, unlike a DVD player, a laser disc player would be completely unable to format an anamorphic laser disc to play on a 4:3 and therefore would have been useless to a very large majority of laser disc player owners at the time.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Sure 16:9 TVs are all the rage now but in the day most high end TVs were still 4:3. It seems completely silly and I still question that it's true. And you'd just be stretching out the picture without any better picture quality so it's just going to end up looking worse in the end.
And they still can't be progressive scan.
adamrulz 4 years ago
You said that VHS and Laserdisc "can't be anamorphic". That is completely untrue. Both formats are capable of delivering anamorphic video. There were no official anamorphic VHS releases that I know of but there actually were anamorphic laserdiscs released. You don't have to "question" it, you can actually do the research and find out for yourself (you've heard of google perhaps?).
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
You are correct about progressive scan, but whether or not a DVD looks better than a laserdisc is completely subjective. Laserdisc is an analog format, so the quality of the image you get from it is dependent on the quality of the player you use. It is also an uncompressed video format unlike DVD, which is a big benefit. A laserdisc played back on a top of the line player might very well look better than the same film on DVD. Quite impressive for a 30 year old format I'd say.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure laser discs weren't around in 1977...
adamrulz 4 years ago
How sure are you exactly? You can't be that sure. The technology itself goes back as far as 1959 when it was created. The first public demonstrations of Laserdisc (then known as Disco Vision) was in 1972. The public release of Disco Vision was in late 1978. The original 1978 Disco Vision discs are playable in modern Laserdisc players. It's the same format.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
:p I said 1977.
adamrulz 4 years ago
And I said that the first public demonstration of Laserdisc was in 1972. That means the format is at least 35 years old. And it is still comparable in visual quality with DVD, which wasn't developed until almost 20 years later. DVD is much more convenient, and versatile, and was designed to work better with future advancements (progressive scan, and also with anamorphic correction built into the players) but on pure image quality it is not a huge leap over 35 year old Laserdisc technology.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
And there have been plasma displays since 1964 but there's no sense in being ridiculous about them having been around for that long. You make a serious distinction between inception of technolgy in it's infancy that was never in any way successfull and the social and economic trends I'm talking about.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Laserdisc's infancy was in the 1960's when the early technology was being developed. It was shown in it's near final form in 1972, and they took some time working out some production problems before finally bringing it to market. If the experience and infrastructure of making CD's wasn't already in place DVD would have taken FAR longer to roll out than it did. Look how many years it took to get dual layer DVDs working (really the only new addition to optical disc technology offered by DVD).
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
Yeah well it's not a laser disc if it doesn't play in a laser disc player and it's not called a laser disc. A CD plays in a DVD player but a CD's not a DVD.
And I don't think anything developed in the 60s would play in a modern laser disc player.
Do you even have a DVD player or do you just spend too much time on Wikipedia?
adamrulz 4 years ago
You obviously can't grasp simple concepts. The original Discovision discs WILL play on modern Laserdisc players. It's the same format. And they are from 1978, which if your math fails you, is almost 30 years ago, which is what I originally said. If you had one of the original first CDs ever released it would play on a modern CD player. If you had one of the original Discovision discs it would play on a modern Laserdisc player. It's the SAME FORMAT.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
I get it just fine. I'm talking about the old 60 stuff here. That stuff won't play on a modern laser disc player. It's not a laser disc simply because the concept is the same. An HD DVD uses the same data concept as a CD but HD DVD hasn't been around for all this time.
adamrulz 4 years ago
You are actually the ONLY one who is talking about the 60s stuff, because it has nothing to do with anything. You're the one who made the pointless "origins of the plasma screen" comment. I only mentioned that LD was DEVELOPED in the 60's as I actually talked about the final 1970s Laserdiscs that are actual LDs and play in modern players. I said that the LD format is 30 years old, and it is actually even older since it was first presented 35 years ago in it's known form.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
CD and DVD are different formats but the manufacturing of them is very similar (another concept you seem to fail to understand), so there were already large numbers of factories up and running ready to start manufacturing the discs. Laserdisc was a new technology, and all the manufacturing infrastructure had to be created from scratch, hence a longer time between when the format was finalized and when it was mass produced for the public.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
Of course I understand they're similar. This why I compared them. I simply meant that they are different. You wouldn't say DVD technology has been around since the creation of the CD just like you shouldn't say that laser disc has been around since 1960. It's not just proving the feasability of the technology. It's about actually working out the specifics of the format.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Also widescreen TV's have been around a lot longer than you seem to think. Laserdisc had less than 1% of the video market. Obviously the people buying it would be the same types to buy special anamorphic versions of films for their special widescreen standard definition TVs. Again research helps you know more about what you choose to talk about.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
Also widescreen TV's have been around a lot longer than you seem to think. Laserdisc had less than 1% of the video market. Obviously the people buying it would be the same types to buy special anamorphic versions of films for their special widescreen standard definition TVs. Again research helps you know more about what you choose to talk about.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
I'm not talking about how long they've been around. I'm talking about how long they've been widespread. Laser disc was huge in Japan. Widescreen not so much. They are behind us as far as HDTV goes.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Japan is behind us in HDTV? How much more absurd can you get? Japan had analog HDTV long before we had any HDTV. The original HDTV standards were developed in 1969 by NHK.
So widescreen SDTV's did exist (and actually were common as I would see them all the time at Best Buy in the mid 90's before HDTV's came on the scene) and anamorphic Laserdiscs that would take advantage of them DID exist. These are all things that are facts. Look them up for yourself.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
HDTV is a north american standard. We had more channels in HDTV earlier than them. Asia is behind north america when it comes to HD. That's a simple truth. Just look at all the HD content we have!
I know widescreen SDTVs exist much as EDTVs did but that was hardly the norm back in the day.
adamrulz 4 years ago
And on widescreen TV's what is your point? Because it "wasn't the norm" means that it doesn't count, or that there couldn't possibly have been anamorphic Laserdiscs to take advantage of them? Well you would be wrong because anamorphic Laserdiscs DID exist whether you want to believe it or not. It's a fact. Widescreen SDTVs existed, and there were anamorphic Laserdiscs made to take advantage of them. DVD did not invent the idea of anamorphic video.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
I accept that. I think it's silly and in no way the norm but I accept that. They are the norm for DVD. They were an unaccepted anomaly for laser disc. I don't deny any of this stuff you're saying I simply question the scope you seem to think things have.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Japan had the first HDTV system. The first HDTVs were analog. Since everyone else was BEHIND Japan when it came to HDTV they decided to adopt a digital system when they started getting into HDTV. Japan ALREADY HAD HDTV and they have simply updated to digital HDTV (or digital TV in general). HDTV is not a "North American" standard. The analog television standard used in North America is NTSC (also used other places as well, Japan for instance). The new digital replacement is called ATSC.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
HDTV was slow to adopt because it didn't have heavy asian backing. I'm not talking about it's origins. I'm talking about it's practical uses.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Not only were there anamorphic Laserdiscs, there was an HD form of Laserdisc for use with the analog HDTV's available in Japan. Again an example of how far ahead of the rest of the world Japan is with HDTV. It doesn't matter if we are now riding their coattails and just putting out more stuff. Without Japan's early steps forward into HDTV there would be no HDTV as we know it. Just like without Laserdisc there would be no CD's or DVD's. Laserdisc was the first laser based optical format.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
That's not a laser disc any more than a DVD is a CD or an HD VHS is VHS. Stop being silly.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Well HD Laserdisc was the same LD format in the way that VCD's are still CDs being used for a different purpose, but that has nothing to do with my point. My point is that Japan is far from behind us with HDTV. They seem to be so far ahead of us that you are looking back at them gaining on you, and not realizing that you aren't ahead, and they are actually lapping you.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
I disagree. I think the major strides with the technology becoming widespread needed to be made in the west and that's why the technology was so slow to be adopted.
adamrulz 4 years ago
Sheer amount of content has nothing to do with who is ahead of who. As far as the technology goes Japan is far and away ahead of us. Who developed BOTH modern competing HD video disc formats? Sony and Toshiba. Gee, what country do both of those companies come from? Oh that's right, Japan.
TimmyKennethy 4 years ago
I'm talking HDTV which has been around for a while, not the next generation DVD technologies.
adamrulz 4 years ago
i love your sailor moon posters in the back
kim87chi 4 years ago
Oh my, how sad. I never purchased them. But anyway, any tiume there is a new release, I take it and just apreciate it, because it's Star Wars! C'mon! Sure George Lucas is taking us all for a ride and just in it for the money, but you know what, I respect him because he made 3 years of my life that would have been hell without Star Wars, the most awesome years of my life. So yeah... I'm done!
jedisiri89 4 years ago
"These are excellent movies" HAHA! love the sarcasm, with showing Gremlins and other crappy movies having anamorphic. Lucas HATES YOU! ANd me!
moeez 4 years ago
does anyone know anything about the Saga 3D
Darkknight7853 5 years ago
Ouch.
adamrulz 5 years ago
I was very impressed with how the DVD transfers of the original versions looked, even though they are not anamorphic widescreen, the transfers do LOOK BETTER from the LaserDiscs they came from.
Riddler95 5 years ago
this review is very helpful
Riddler95 5 years ago
Better <> Good
adamrulz 5 years ago
i got the special edition box set back in 2004 and i was a little comfused when i noticed the new things put in however i still enjoyed them and i enjoy them to this day, there is no way i am wasting my money on these dvds, if you want the originals without the new cgi stuff then its much cheaper to get them on Vhs
rs0411 5 years ago
My god, you really are sad little lads.
'He did it on purpose!'
Hah.
Paulandthem 5 years ago
Lads? Do you think I'm more than one person or something?
adamrulz 5 years ago
Look when he breaks the disc...its not a dvd, but a blank media cd. You can tell by the color. Nice review btw.
jvrlopez 5 years ago
Shhh...
adamrulz 5 years ago
Great review guys im going to wait until the box set comes out fuck this limited time only crap.
RoyalDragon1 5 years ago
First off, tell me you didnt buy those and are only borrowing them.
padawan23 5 years ago
Purchased! :p
adamrulz 5 years ago
BRILLIANT!!!! I shall forward this to everybody I know. Ingenius.
But I do have one complaint. When you get the DVds, dont break the disc. How is Mr. Lucash going to know that you broke a DVD in the privacy of your own home. What you must do is take the DVD out of its case, break it if you want, and then mail it right back to Mr. Luca$ himself. Then he will know that we arent going to take anymore of his crap
darthzach 5 years ago
Hahaha. Well I'll see if I can fish it out of the garbage...
adamrulz 5 years ago
Superb!
SeanOrange 5 years ago