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  • This documentary helps to explain why I am an Agnostic

    It's okay to have beliefs, but when it overrides rational thought then it is problematic.

  • LOST FACT - Constantine had a vision of Apollo as well.

  • mmm seems intersting

  • Now this is one Priest I wouldn't run screaming from -- or hit with a pie.

  • Christianity was perhaps the biggest insult to an amazing pacifist like Christ.

  • @FQBeast Nicely put!

  • @Coolkid1steez Actually, as Oxford historian of science Dr. James Hannam states, "The starting point for all natural philosophy in the Middle Ages was that nature had been created by God. This made it a legitimate area of study because through nature, man could learn about its creator. Medieval scholars thought that nature followed the rules that God had ordained for it. Because God was consistent and not capricious, these natural laws were constant and worth scrutinising."

  • "Religious and military power are coming together."[?] Excuse me? Ever heard of the Crusades? The grand scheme is the part of the redeemer complex, the victim-perpetrator bond which permeates the Abrahamic control-mechanism, especially Catholicism and its spawn, Islam...a mediaeval christianity.

  • @freaklemon The Crusades are arguably the most misunderstood historical event there is. The majority of people nowadays have subscribed to a particular understanding of the Crusades which can best be described as nothing more than folk history, or popular myth. However, the simple facts are that the Crusades were the result of a defensive Christian response to Muslim imperialism which was threatening Christendom. This imperialism was as much a political act, as it was a cultural act.

  • @jlangston23 My point being that state run religions, i.e. the ones infused into the mind and municipal infrastructure of society, ARE political entities, Catholicism being the continuation of the Roman Empire under the guise of religion. Crowns were placed on royal heads by the papacy and thus the power emanated (and emanates, I would argue), from those who would ordain kingship.

  • @jlangston23 I see the parallels between Islam and Catholicism and I wonder who created Islam, i.e. Rome=Mecca, Veneration of the Virgin in the Qu'oran, Rosary prayer beads=Tespesch prayer beads, Jesus or a saviour=Mahdi..both religions (and Judaism) infected by the Redeemer virus and on and on. I see a massive mind control op for centuries and most people today are still buying it.

  • politics and religion being considered two separate things is a very recent phenomenon in human history. Only in the past century have we actually made a conscience effort to separate the two. To be honest I don't think its the real problem anymore. I think its good to keep them separate but on the other hand I feel that many of the moral principals that many religions teach should be mixed with the seemingly zero accountability politicians have today. Just another convenient tool and scapegoat.

  • in comparison to islam i laugh....loudly. to declare that today's geopolitcal wars are instigated in any mode or fashion by christian fanaticism or fundamentalism is to wholly miss the mark, to grossly invert the realities of the world.

  • @elchasai

    big man

  • Excellent film!

  • there is no yeshua, no evidence that a yeshua existed

  • @SHMUJEW There is firm evidence that he existed as a human being. Firm and irrefutable. And even if there wasn't clear evidence that he lived, in ancient history we establish things by a process of implied events. By the end of the 1st century, there was a movement within Judaism and then outside it which thought Yeshua was the messiah. Historically speaking, that's extremely improbable if someone like that hadn't existed in the 1st place. Now, just because he existed doesn't mean he was a god.

  • Films like this are created when the "church" mistakenly accepts Just War doctrine. In the USA, the grandsons of Puritans were moved by George Washington kneeling in the snow to pray. What else can a politician do to make Christians kill? "No taxation without representation" was a battle cry heard in churches, but not in the Bible.

    Jesus never told us not to be soldiers... or any other profession, but He told us how to live. Faith in the Prince of Peace is unseen in the politics of war.

  • @truthisalwaystrue Who cares whether it's the "just doctrine"? What difference does that make? IT STILL HAPPENS.

  • This documentary is very pathetic.

  • Dude, you are insane.

    "I saw telephone poles as crosses..." " I saw planes in the sky as crosses..."

    Holy shit, dude... get some therapy. Also if you read your quotes with "Baby cakes" voice it really sounds funny.

    If you don't know who Baby cakes is, then you sir will surely burn in H E double Hockey sticks.

  • This is a 50/50 mix of truth and error. Yeshua/Jesus warned about ravening wolves that would come in sheeps' clothing. Carroll makes no distinction between the apostate church and the true church. He was careful not to mention the many thousands of Evangelicals who risked everything (including their own children) to shelter Jews--like the 5,000 Huguenots of Chambon Sur Lignon France, and the Ten Boom family of Holland. I wonder if he knows that Sgt.York tried for conscientious objector status?.

  • This is a 50/50 mix of truth and error. Yeshua/Jesus warned about ravening wolves that would come in sheeps' clothing. Carroll makes no distinction between the apostate church and the true church. He was careful not to mention the many thousands of Evangelicals who risked everything (including their own children) to shelter Jews--like the 5,000 Huguenots of Chambon Sur Lignon France, and the Ten Boom family of Holland. I wonder if he knows that Sgt.York tried for conscientious objector status?.

  • @YerushalayimShelZaha He also neglected to mention the pseudoscience of Social Darwinism that fueled the racial intolerance and suppression in the Nazi Party.

  • @LetOurLittleLadyTalk But that's not the point of the documentary - documentaries don't have to cover every point. The evil impact of social darwinism doesn't lessen the harm caused by Christianity. It's not a quota system.

  • i would have to agree considering we repeat it expecting a different result.

  • Isnt killing in the name of god a pretty good definition for insanity?

  • Eh, I think I would say that the closeness is more between religion and political power not necessarily just military. When ya control the politics you control the military. When churches are "in bed" with political parties and organizations...that is big trouble. And not necessarily on the part of the religion excusively, mind you, but on the part of the politics as well. A government partnered with a religion can easily turn the polls.

  • i agree

    Probabely the spirit of the films is to said that religion and military power ar both a way of afirmation. Politic always was a domain for elite. But relion and war can be done by evrybody.

    ;)

  • good point. Interested to see the whole film if I could get the time...

  • I finely see the movie.

    Interesting, a point of view of a man in shame about politic in faith.

    This sitation seam to be the most significativ for me in the film: « You can leave the church, but your relation with god will never brokup »

    For my part, i have apostasis 4 years ago, and i never be as more spiritual from this point.

  • yea it seems to be happening alot these days, especially in Western Civilization. People are fed up with church (world-wide) and are rejecting an instatutionalized church. Not turning from faith, just the "church" ideal. Don't think that this is good for the faith itself, but then again, people aren't left with many better alternatives. Interesting stuff.

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  • `Religious and military power are coming together` .... is he fucking kidding... never in history has it been so far apart...

  • You haven't been to a Base lately, have you... or paid any attention to who's been put in positions of power, nor where the money's been going in Washington the last ten years... or what the evangelical church has been working on politically... or what's been going on in the middle east for the last 40 years... or...

  • still, some counterparts of Christianity are not directed to violence. they never were. Orthodoxy. The Orthodox catholic church. it is a spiritual faith, connected to the Lord, with all the original learnings of the Lord, and the Christ. the state that followed this, was the East Roman Empire. or The Byzantine Empire. they never founded it good to fight for Christianity like the crusaders from the west from the roman catholic church.

  • very good

  • Good Video ... enlightening ... a film that arouses men's thoughts that what really matters is not what one believes, but how that belief affects their behavior, conduct and relationship with others ... including those who do not share their belief. Thank you so much for sharing ... wish I could watch the entire film.

  • Anyone know the name of the song ?

  • Believing in a hand puppet created by the clergy and emperors to bind your life and mind... is loosing your mind and life.

  • New interview video with Bryan Webb of Constantines featured on our profile!

  • Religion may be bad, but belief in God isn't.

  • Wow, how about letting people just live without one side or the other trying to warp our minds. I'm going to grill some steak tonight and drink beer with my friends. I could care less about religion or athiests alike!!!

  • Religion doesn't kill people, guns do.

    No, wait...

  • i hope everyone see this.

  • i didn't like the movie because was focucing on christians only. why it didnt talk about jewish and islams holy wars too.jews have their own country "israel"and it's based on jewish religion and they are killing the arabs there like nazies did to them...religion is hate..cancel it and you will have peace on earth

  • The cross/sword referred to in the title is not what Constantine saw in the sky the day he 'converted', it refers to Constantine's use of christianity as a reason to conquer and rule over non-christians in other lands. This happened after he had taken control of Rome, not before,he was not in a position to conquer anyone before he was boss in Rome.

  • Poor Journalism. The connection between Constantine's vision and the cross symbol is total fiction. The cross was already a significant symbol but was not the symbol in the vision at the Bridge over the Tiber.

    Every Church Historian knows it was the Chi Rho that Constantine adopted for battle that day.

    All good things have been abused. From Religion, to alcohol, to women, etc. Because they are abused by a minority does not make them evil, untrue or wrong.

    Very poor journalism.

  • Poor journalism gets poor leaders into office.

  • Don't you mean poor idiotic people reading poor journalism gets poor leaders into office?

    I agree with you.

  • I've seen this crappy doc. few months back.

    Pure Jewish/Zionist propaganda!

    WW1/WW2 wasn't fought over religion, but by the Free masons and the Illuminati, over power, resources and building the global economy or who will end up on top of the the economical food chain.

    Movie is pure non-sense!

  • I never understand why people see films like this and then say "Religeon causes wars." Why is the religeon blamed for the sins and errors of man? God gave us free will and yet we blame him for our actions? BTW I'm not a devout christian or anything but I see that line of thinking as illogical.

  • reply to qwidgyboman... Is not that is blame on religion "wars and violence" is that people use religion as a excuse to promote hate and violance, they use it as a shield to justify their ignorance and discriminitional views , and a excuse to do horrible things that when use "on the name of God" make others follow and support thinking is his will. and saddly the masses R weak.

  • How true Religion has caused familys to fight .God loves all people ,I believe we are all to be good and loving to each other,

  • Here is a FACT for you all. Relegion is the major cause of most wars. Maybe there is a good point in being an atheist after all.

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  • I would assert the down side of evolution is requiring the ability to kill off your competitors or be killed. Atheists Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris advocate war in the Middle East.

    Whether man is Atheist or religious he finds reasons to determine his competitor is inferior, and that gives him justification to kill them off. It is man's nature.

    I do not say this to attack evolution. I believe you have to identify a problem before before you can try to do something about it.

  • Agnostic...the third and most misunderstood option...

  • The Holy Wars (better known as the Crusades) during the 14th century were not to convert their captures, but to plunder their goods and bring it back to their own country. TOO many wars are started in the name of God. Jesus preached peace - where is it that it said war is good?

  • No, actually the Crusades were a delayed response that was much smaller in proportion to the encroachment and pillaging of Christian territories by the Muslims in Spain, in Constantinople and in Jerusalem.

  • Do you happen to have any evidence of this? Most evidence points to the crusades being much more bloody than anything the Muslims did. Just saying.

  • Sure, there's plenty of evidence. I'd suggest you start off by reading anything by Robert Spencer.

  • Historian here

    I fount that during the crusades, your right.

    However, most people skip over the Muslims attacking christian states in the dark ages (for more brutal than the crusades) and the Ottoman Turks during the "sword and pike" era

  • bunch of jesus huggers

  • Jesus loves this documentary, and so should you ^_^

  • History tells that that many millions of people died when Christianity blended with power hungry governments. That's why our country was set up to keep church and state apart.Bloody Mary was only some 200 plus years before 1776. I've come to the conclusion that Christians must b very wary of these people who deal death but say they speak for the Lord.Beware!Love thy neighbor as thyself means to be able to see the other person as onself.This includes feeling the pain of what we did 2 Iraq.

  • the cult of christ has no business infesting our military. Soldiers in our Army should have to take a test: does your love of your imaginary god supercede your allegiance to the Constitution? Would we be ok with muslims having this many members in our military, praying to allah before each meal? Or mormons? or wiccans?

  • The cult of christ has no place in civilisation. Full stop.

  • ANY organized religion needs to be kept out of politics - period. More blood has been shed in the name of *religious beliefs* than anything else in the world.

  • This film, according to reviews I have read, has many errors, including the supposed "silence" of Pius XII during the Holocaust (he was anything but silent). Just more of the same -- ex-priest writes book/writes article/makes film to rant about his own personal difficulties with the Catholic Church.

  • Pius XII actually had a close conection with hitler, you should see "Amen". They were fine with the holocaust. That was better than risking the vatican wealth.

  • "...a close conection with hitler"

    Hmmm...so close that any and all public broadcasts by Pius were forbidden in Nazi territory...so close that Hitler had assasination plots against Pius...Pius sheltered thousands of Jews within the Vatican itself...Golda Meier praised Pius for being a friend of the Jewish people...the chief rabbi of Rome converted to Catholicism and took Pius's birth name, Eugenio, as his baptismal name.

  • dont beleive in propaganda. have you seen zeitgeist. Bush grandpa was selling weapons to Nazis in the begining.

  • I merely gave you history, not propaganda. Calm, objective fact.

  • Some truth?  How rare!

  • true dat! fuckers don't know what the word "liberal" means. it's never meant tolerating backwards fascist bullshit. but i think most the commies you listed are not in fashion w/ anyone.

  • stategus999 - you need to go back to school. One that teaches actual history, not some homeschooled mongrel-speak. And turn off Fox News.

  • After 9/11 I didn't hear an unequivocal condemnation of the terrorist act by Christian leaders. It was more like a "we deserve this because we have strayed from God's path". The only UNEQUIVOCAL thing in that statement is an implicit COMPLICITY.

    And curiously hypocritically enough, I didn't hear a "let's turn the other cheek either".

  • I totally agree. Politics and religion are becomeing too mixed together. In addition, religious faith is naturally intolerant because people believe their's is the only true faith. I think they are all full of BS

  • @bullc1945 It's nothing new, religion has always been about politics. No one gains knowledge of anything from joining a religion, no one becomes enlightened either from the belief in a religion, the only purpose for it is for a centralized group to hold power over many. Religion has played a huge part in politics throughout history, and it has rarely been a good thing.

  • @bullc1945 the sad thing is religion is politics, its impossible for them to be separate

  • I can't wait.

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