Read the complete chin or fourth character secret and Wang's treatise on the idea of double-weightedness:Substantial and insubstantial movement or the shifting of weight from on side to the other side of the body. Defensive/Substantial/immovable-object has one side closed, contracted and sinking. Offensive/irresistable force has the other side opening, expanding and rising. When the body can do both at the same time then you begin becoming a peerless boxer when appling the 13 postures.
Double weighted is not "2 feet heavy". This 'teacher' is incorrect. Double weighted is, as the classics refer to them, when the opponents center is trapped. When the arms are caught up, either by the offensive player or by the the defensives inability to respond (usually caused from tension or resistance), there is double weighted-ness. The loser then is caught by his inability to transfer his center to an advantageous position. If the posture is broken, like the teacher here, its easy to lose.
As the first minute goes on, I can quickly notice that the teacher is definitely the one in all black. Look at the way he is controlling guy in white. He is weighted properly and it is allowing him to have the advantage.
what style does he teach? i dont mean to be negatively critical in any manner, but i notice a lot posture compromising from both practitioners in this video. particularly the thoracic and pelvic alignment are off in this video. is there a reason for this?
This type of training won't lead to high-level taiji skill. It would be more productive to spend time teaching basics. Triangulating your opponent while leaning in or pulling may work against low-level practitioners, but it won't work against high-level ones. It's a waste of time for the teacher and it sends the wrong message for the student.
You're making a judgment of an entire teaching method based on what you see from one video? I imagine that the students spend plenty of time learning basics and other elements of the art. There may be truth to say that if this was the only exercise done, students would be short of knowledge. However, you do not know how much focus is placed on this exercise in relation to the rest of the training. I encourage you to view the big picture and not confine your thoughts to a narrow mindset.
I am not a high level martial artist, (someday tho), but I have to disagree to a point with you. I agree that leaning in or pulling won't work against a high lvl practitioner, but I do think that push hands training is important for a beginner such as myself. While I was in China (with zero taiji ex) my teachers over there started me with push hands and never showed me any form. They showed me proper posture and how to swallow and sink a push, and how to handle a pull.
I think viewers of this Tai Chi exercise should know it's to help beginner's learn a concept of yielding and balance. This is a very basic technique and should not be confused with the various much more advanced practice of 'push hands' that teaches how to defend yourself against real attacks.
hahahahahah omg.. i think he has tooooo much money.. if your going to do something do it right..
cliff11233 1 year ago
Read the complete chin or fourth character secret and Wang's treatise on the idea of double-weightedness:Substantial and insubstantial movement or the shifting of weight from on side to the other side of the body. Defensive/Substantial/immovable-object has one side closed, contracted and sinking. Offensive/irresistable force has the other side opening, expanding and rising. When the body can do both at the same time then you begin becoming a peerless boxer when appling the 13 postures.
ANGELSGYMSINGH 2 years ago
Double weighted is not "2 feet heavy". This 'teacher' is incorrect. Double weighted is, as the classics refer to them, when the opponents center is trapped. When the arms are caught up, either by the offensive player or by the the defensives inability to respond (usually caused from tension or resistance), there is double weighted-ness. The loser then is caught by his inability to transfer his center to an advantageous position. If the posture is broken, like the teacher here, its easy to lose.
trevcaru 2 years ago
which one is the teacher?
andymach33 3 years ago
As the first minute goes on, I can quickly notice that the teacher is definitely the one in all black. Look at the way he is controlling guy in white. He is weighted properly and it is allowing him to have the advantage.
xiayu27 3 years ago
hahaha LOL yes, that's what I said. This shouldn't happen in taiji. Other styles, maybe, but taiji...no
unjedi007 2 years ago
what style does he teach? i dont mean to be negatively critical in any manner, but i notice a lot posture compromising from both practitioners in this video. particularly the thoracic and pelvic alignment are off in this video. is there a reason for this?
AkiraSumida 3 years ago
@AkiraSumida its xing yi. im not a practitioner of it, but i think that just how it is.
BunnyBUNGALO 1 year ago
Is this Master Gohring in the black? I have an Austin club and have been meaning to stop by to say hi.
SenseiStrange 3 years ago
This is Uri Solomons.
MasterGohring 3 years ago
This type of training won't lead to high-level taiji skill. It would be more productive to spend time teaching basics. Triangulating your opponent while leaning in or pulling may work against low-level practitioners, but it won't work against high-level ones. It's a waste of time for the teacher and it sends the wrong message for the student.
johnmalong 4 years ago
Please post a vid of yourself practicing push hands in the right way ... the high level way I mean, so that we could have the right message.
Thanx.
serpentvolant 3 years ago
He is right, look at clips of master chen xiao wang for example and chen style pushhands
taijihitman 2 years ago
You're making a judgment of an entire teaching method based on what you see from one video? I imagine that the students spend plenty of time learning basics and other elements of the art. There may be truth to say that if this was the only exercise done, students would be short of knowledge. However, you do not know how much focus is placed on this exercise in relation to the rest of the training. I encourage you to view the big picture and not confine your thoughts to a narrow mindset.
*bow*
trivient 3 years ago
I am not a high level martial artist, (someday tho), but I have to disagree to a point with you. I agree that leaning in or pulling won't work against a high lvl practitioner, but I do think that push hands training is important for a beginner such as myself. While I was in China (with zero taiji ex) my teachers over there started me with push hands and never showed me any form. They showed me proper posture and how to swallow and sink a push, and how to handle a pull.
MasterDragonNinja 2 years ago
good explaination of one foot rooted and one foot listenig, one player is but one half of the entire move
b7605444 4 years ago
I think viewers of this Tai Chi exercise should know it's to help beginner's learn a concept of yielding and balance. This is a very basic technique and should not be confused with the various much more advanced practice of 'push hands' that teaches how to defend yourself against real attacks.
artofqi 4 years ago
Thank you for the thoughtful comments.
MasterGohring 4 years ago
Cool!
Ejszello 5 years ago