Some churches acknowledge women as preachers but they still are not permitted in the pulpit. Some COGIC churches have no issues with either women preaching or speaking in the pulpit.
I guess it depends on what church they at. Dorinda Clark is COGIC but I seen her in the pulpit, I think GOGIC is just starting to believe in women preachers. I could be totally wrong, this is just my observation, so don't no body rebuke me. Can a COGIC member shed some light on this subject, I would like to know.
There are some female pastors ("shepard mother") in some states- but they commonly serve as supervisors (equivilent to the jurisdictional bishop) and district missionaries (equivilent to the district superintendent). Bishop Charles Blake is the internat'l presiding bishop he of course is the cheif apostle of the global church and Mother Willie Mae Rivers is the general supervisor of the women. It is like the husband and wife to a home and COGIC precieves this to be the God's order of the Church.
Bishop C.H. Mason, COGIC founder taught that women were to "teach" and men were to "preach." Fundamental COGICs restrict women from preaching and in settings when they "teach" it is done from the floor. However modern COGICs accept women missionaries preaching the gospel; it is understood today that "preaching" is an art of teaching. They aren't ordained elders or consecrated bishops but are licensed as Missionaries in levels of Aspiring, Deaconess, Evangelist. Dorinda is a nat'l Evangelist.
I don't know what you are talking about, try typing slower or something furthermore I was responding to a question I have to answer when young females come to my church. Being in a COGIC church the roles are so unique many people of other denominations don't understand so I explain...simply what I was doing here. These Youtube philosophers.....ugh Pray Saints.
Because in the earlier days COGIC women were not permitted to preach or be called preachers. They were permitted to teach and only acknowledged as teachers. We know better than that though. These powerful women have been preaching for years down on the floor. LOL It really depends on the church and Pastor. Many COGIC churches have progressed beyond the issue of women preachers.
Thanks COGIC98387, I feel educated and informed now. Do you know what the reasoning behind calling them Shepard Mother if it is the equivlent to a Bishop, why not just call them a Bishop if they do the same thing. I'm asking for education, not to be funny or disrespectful to the COGIC, I really love that fellowship.
The scripture says that the Bishop must be the "husband" of one wife. This scripture gives the connotation that the office and title of the Bishop is reserved solely for men.
Most of the modern missionaries do preach from the pulpit i.e. Mothers Willie Mae Rivers, Frances Kelly, Deola Wells-Johnson, Evangelist Joyce Rodgers etc. The lady in the video is probably old-school COGIC- they have never truly been considered "preachers" (but missionaries) so they didn't occupy the pulpit back in the day....but if you preach aren't you a preacher? Still just like PAW tthe missionaries don't hold full ordination- even though they are allowed pastorates on some conditions.
There is no rule in COGIC that says women can't stand on a pulpit. However, it is just some churches custom if you will. Truth be told, some don't care to stand on a pulpit. The COGIC is a worldwide organization. You'd be surprised at how some of us differ.
I'm sure things have changed, but when I was coming up, women were not allowed in the pulpit and they didn't say that they were preaching, rather, they were bringing the word.
LOL! My grandmother says they also used to say, She wasn't preaching, she was "reaching"! Truth be told, some of our best preachers are women. Evang. Dorinda, Evang. Joyce Rodgers, Supervisor Vanessa Gatlin, to name a few ; )
@Pawboi85 Im COGIC also and women are in the pulpit often...as a matter of fact during convocation all the missionaries have a permanent seating arrangement on one side of the pulpit and the pastors and bishop on the other
@jonnymac917 I'm not trying to sew discord but I'm actually curious... I've visited a few of my friends' churches who are cogic and generally if a women is leading praise and worship, reading the announcements or operating in some other similar capacity they do stand at a smaller podium or stand like in this video and fulfill their duty from there... So I was just wondering why....
@iDiscipleLEGGO Actually she isn't if you watch the video when the camera person zooms out you can see that she is standing in front of the pulpit. There are two more tiers one which forms the pulpit and another on which the podium appears to be resting. I asked the question out of curiousity because I've seen this at other COGIC churches were women if not preaching operate in the capacity from a remote podium or stand but never from the main one.
@iDiscipleLEGGO Actually she isn't if you watch the video when the camera person zooms out you can see that she is standing in front of the pulpit. There are two more tiers one which forms the pulpit and another on which the podium appears to be resting. I'm asked the question out of curiousity because I've seen this at other COGIC churches were women if not preaching operate in the capacity from a remote podium or stand but never from the main one.
I truly enjoyed this. I love this song, done in traditional church of God in Christ style--smile! Love the organist. p.s. evangelist you are truly stunning!!! I MUST add it to my favorites! Bless you.
The Lord will beautify you with Holiness, should have seen me before I got saved sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost,the Lord had mercy on me -God is Good Gloooooory
the dignitary attempted to continue to be dignified, but just couldn't hold it.....let him use you, ma! HE'S A POWERFUL GOD! HE will get HIS glorification BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!
hmmm interesting, I guess I got the lyrics wrong cause thats how my grandma sings it, Oh Zion but I guess its Hosanna, what is Hosanna anyways? Yes she is jammin, got the little swing with it as well go head na
aint it the truth, lol you be thinking they singing it right and they be singing it all wrong, lol gotta love it though. but aint nothing like them old hymnals to get your spirit sturred up
He is my Young Grandson, 4th Generation COGIC!!!! To God Be The Glory, He is not trying to be a star, Just waiting to be filled with The Precious Holy Ghost
Praise the Lord!!!
Peaceat39 8 months ago
hes playing way to fast
pookster902008 1 year ago 2
that is my song
MrKennyrivers 1 year ago
the musicians need to get coordinated; organist needs to keep it simple but under the annoiting of the holy spirit; they can do it! GOD BLESS YOU!
hapkido4 1 year ago
I can't shout to this. Too fast!!
greggy757 1 year ago
What is this woman name?
kadeemgraves 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but that praise break music was the worst.
stayfresh087 2 years ago
Not so...just too fast..:^)
cogic98387 2 years ago
they gettin down. I love it!
phrog1337 3 years ago
It's just something about the name JESUS!! Praise him sista!!!
roro069 3 years ago
i know this lady but what church do she attend
Godschosen0705 3 years ago
GO Head Evanglist!! I love you!! You my sister!! :) Preach!! lol!!
MINISTEROFLOVE313 3 years ago
Why don't COGIC women stand on the pulpit? I'm PAW so I really don't understand.
Pawboi85 3 years ago
In fairness and love I will let someone else respond to you question.
theevang1 3 years ago
Some churches acknowledge women as preachers but they still are not permitted in the pulpit. Some COGIC churches have no issues with either women preaching or speaking in the pulpit.
cogic98387 2 years ago
I guess it depends on what church they at. Dorinda Clark is COGIC but I seen her in the pulpit, I think GOGIC is just starting to believe in women preachers. I could be totally wrong, this is just my observation, so don't no body rebuke me. Can a COGIC member shed some light on this subject, I would like to know.
tonyraysmith 2 years ago
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marqueshr7 2 years ago
There are some female pastors ("shepard mother") in some states- but they commonly serve as supervisors (equivilent to the jurisdictional bishop) and district missionaries (equivilent to the district superintendent). Bishop Charles Blake is the internat'l presiding bishop he of course is the cheif apostle of the global church and Mother Willie Mae Rivers is the general supervisor of the women. It is like the husband and wife to a home and COGIC precieves this to be the God's order of the Church.
marqueshr7 2 years ago
Bishop C.H. Mason, COGIC founder taught that women were to "teach" and men were to "preach." Fundamental COGICs restrict women from preaching and in settings when they "teach" it is done from the floor. However modern COGICs accept women missionaries preaching the gospel; it is understood today that "preaching" is an art of teaching. They aren't ordained elders or consecrated bishops but are licensed as Missionaries in levels of Aspiring, Deaconess, Evangelist. Dorinda is a nat'l Evangelist.
marqueshr7 2 years ago
you are you to say what some one is you should have learned better and mason dont now every thing
cogicman2009 2 years ago
I don't know what you are talking about, try typing slower or something furthermore I was responding to a question I have to answer when young females come to my church. Being in a COGIC church the roles are so unique many people of other denominations don't understand so I explain...simply what I was doing here. These Youtube philosophers.....ugh Pray Saints.
marqueshr7 2 years ago
ok i understand your point i cant see wirth nothing
cogicman2009 2 years ago
My mother is Co-Pastor and I am very much COGIC and she sits RIGHT next to daddy
Quincydellic 2 years ago
Because in the earlier days COGIC women were not permitted to preach or be called preachers. They were permitted to teach and only acknowledged as teachers. We know better than that though. These powerful women have been preaching for years down on the floor. LOL It really depends on the church and Pastor. Many COGIC churches have progressed beyond the issue of women preachers.
cogic98387 2 years ago
Thank you! Now I know! Ya learn something new everyday!
Pawboi85 2 years ago
Thanks COGIC98387, I feel educated and informed now. Do you know what the reasoning behind calling them Shepard Mother if it is the equivlent to a Bishop, why not just call them a Bishop if they do the same thing. I'm asking for education, not to be funny or disrespectful to the COGIC, I really love that fellowship.
tonyraysmith 2 years ago
The scripture says that the Bishop must be the "husband" of one wife. This scripture gives the connotation that the office and title of the Bishop is reserved solely for men.
cogic98387 2 years ago
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marqueshr7 2 years ago
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Most of the modern missionaries do preach from the pulpit i.e. Mothers Willie Mae Rivers, Frances Kelly, Deola Wells-Johnson, Evangelist Joyce Rodgers etc. The lady in the video is probably old-school COGIC- they have never truly been considered "preachers" (but missionaries) so they didn't occupy the pulpit back in the day....but if you preach aren't you a preacher? Still just like PAW tthe missionaries don't hold full ordination- even though they are allowed pastorates on some conditions.
marqueshr7 2 years ago 2
cogic women do sit on the pulipt
apostlic200 2 years ago
LOL...
1KINGTALK 2 years ago
There is no rule in COGIC that says women can't stand on a pulpit. However, it is just some churches custom if you will. Truth be told, some don't care to stand on a pulpit. The COGIC is a worldwide organization. You'd be surprised at how some of us differ.
God Bless
Quincydellic 2 years ago 2
I'm sure things have changed, but when I was coming up, women were not allowed in the pulpit and they didn't say that they were preaching, rather, they were bringing the word.
greggy757 1 year ago
LOL! My grandmother says they also used to say, She wasn't preaching, she was "reaching"! Truth be told, some of our best preachers are women. Evang. Dorinda, Evang. Joyce Rodgers, Supervisor Vanessa Gatlin, to name a few ; )
Quincydellic 1 year ago
You're right. Women are off the hook. Bishop Barbara Amos and Elder Sharon Riley in Norfolk VA can be added to that list.
greggy757 1 year ago
@Pawboi85 Im COGIC also and women are in the pulpit often...as a matter of fact during convocation all the missionaries have a permanent seating arrangement on one side of the pulpit and the pastors and bishop on the other
jonnymac917 1 year ago
@jonnymac917 I'm not trying to sew discord but I'm actually curious... I've visited a few of my friends' churches who are cogic and generally if a women is leading praise and worship, reading the announcements or operating in some other similar capacity they do stand at a smaller podium or stand like in this video and fulfill their duty from there... So I was just wondering why....
Pawboi85 7 months ago
@Pawboi85 There's a woman in the pulpit in the video, what are you talking about?
iDiscipleLEGGO 7 months ago
@iDiscipleLEGGO Actually she isn't if you watch the video when the camera person zooms out you can see that she is standing in front of the pulpit. There are two more tiers one which forms the pulpit and another on which the podium appears to be resting. I asked the question out of curiousity because I've seen this at other COGIC churches were women if not preaching operate in the capacity from a remote podium or stand but never from the main one.
Pawboi85 7 months ago
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@iDiscipleLEGGO Actually she isn't if you watch the video when the camera person zooms out you can see that she is standing in front of the pulpit. There are two more tiers one which forms the pulpit and another on which the podium appears to be resting. I'm asked the question out of curiousity because I've seen this at other COGIC churches were women if not preaching operate in the capacity from a remote podium or stand but never from the main one.
Pawboi85 7 months ago
I like this, of you ministering. Beautiful.
2cogic4u 3 years ago 2
To God Be The Glory 60 and yet able by the grace of God
theevang1 3 years ago
I truly enjoyed this. I love this song, done in traditional church of God in Christ style--smile! Love the organist. p.s. evangelist you are truly stunning!!! I MUST add it to my favorites! Bless you.
theword77 3 years ago
The Lord will beautify you with Holiness, should have seen me before I got saved sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost,the Lord had mercy on me -God is Good Gloooooory
theevang1 3 years ago
You can feel the power!
cogic98387 3 years ago
Alright, dance Evangelist ! I see you cuttin a step !
2cogic4u 3 years ago
the dignitary attempted to continue to be dignified, but just couldn't hold it.....let him use you, ma! HE'S A POWERFUL GOD! HE will get HIS glorification BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!
TRADEWITDAFADE 3 years ago
I love the song and how she let the spirit Flow....But that drummer need to RELAX lol
Fmcc6 3 years ago
I love that song she is sanging, Oh Zion Blessed be the Rock of my Salvation, who sings that song so I can download it
holyandannointed 3 years ago 2
its not oh zion...its hosanna blessed be the rock. its one of my favorites...and she is jammin ain't she...praise him!
handelfan610 3 years ago
hmmm interesting, I guess I got the lyrics wrong cause thats how my grandma sings it, Oh Zion but I guess its Hosanna, what is Hosanna anyways? Yes she is jammin, got the little swing with it as well go head na
holyandannointed 3 years ago
hosanna-Lord Save Us
theevang1 3 years ago
see thats something i did not know, lawd have mercy well thanks for letting me know cause i was lost for a min
holyandannointed 3 years ago
lol now you KNOW you can't listen to what grandma be singing lol.
handelfan610 3 years ago
aint it the truth, lol you be thinking they singing it right and they be singing it all wrong, lol gotta love it though. but aint nothing like them old hymnals to get your spirit sturred up
holyandannointed 3 years ago
PRAISE JESUS!!!!
caramelgyrl87 3 years ago
is this u theevang1? to GOD be the glory, may i ask wat church is this in?
pluto17dre 3 years ago
WHAT'S UP WITH THE DRUMMER?!?!?
mzcogic08 3 years ago
He is my Young Grandson, 4th Generation COGIC!!!! To God Be The Glory, He is not trying to be a star, Just waiting to be filled with The Precious Holy Ghost
theevang1 3 years ago
Praise His adorable
Name any way you want!!!!!
Evrastus 3 years ago
Can't nobody play the organ like COGIC!
Quincydellic 3 years ago 2
Brother Jarvis Lewis is the organist, awesome young man of God
theevang1 3 years ago
Give the man the props. He has come a long way.....You go y'all. Got me outta my shoes.
Drummer is holding down but he ain't Puba.
higherpraises 3 years ago
Ok Who is this? Love Ma Banks
theevang1 3 years ago
got that right!!!!
mzcogic08 3 years ago
wrong about that, my uncle can play the Organ and he is holyness
holyandannointed 3 years ago
thanks for the link! Praise Him!
symplywords 3 years ago
good
mhill6089 3 years ago
to rdmott Mother Banks (theevang1) is 1 year from 60 and yet holding on
theevang1 3 years ago
you still going strong!!
netsurfer08 3 years ago
Pray God's strength for me to continue, I will serve him till I go home to glory
theevang1 3 years ago
GLORAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
netsurfer08 3 years ago
Lead us in Worship to our God
BrothaRollins 3 years ago
Hey Hey! That's Right Evangelist!
cogic98387 3 years ago
GO HEAD EVANGELIST!!!
cogic98387 3 years ago
i'm gone
theevang1 3 years ago
Got to watch the Holy Ghost He'll make you forget your almost 60
theevang1 3 years ago
Are you a revivalist as well?
cogic98387 3 years ago
I'm everything that God has called me to be
theevang1 3 years ago
I hope to see you at AIM Evangelist!
cogic98387 3 years ago
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I will be there
theevang1 3 years ago