So,......I'm so confused about things,....there seem to be so many conflicting views for the way to such simple and beautiful truths. Everybody says you have to suffer to be like Jesus. How can that be the only way ? It makes no sense, and literally rips my heart in two.
christians are just a cult that does human worship and believes in human sacrifice a pagan evil belief that has no place in this world. nor is raping kids in church to convert them by scaring,brainwashing and traumatising ect them into church bullshit
@mrlogicalman1 Christians worship God who came in human form in the person of Jesus. He came as a sacrifice for sins according to what was foretold by Moses and the Israelite prophets. The Quran tells Muslims they must believe what has been revealed to Jews and Christians in their scriptures. Muslims who reject the Jewish/Christian Bible are unbelievers.
the book of barnabas is false, the book of acts paul and barnabas ackowledge christ as the son of god, islam is garbage, and mohammed is a false prophit leading masses to hell.
the gospels was re-writen and compiled base on their perception and interpretation mainly after the death of jesus(as christian believe jesus was once dead).this 'perception and interpretation' itself was led by human desire since it's clearly base on the story from one to another.only the chosen gospels then selected as an authorized,hudred of years after jesus' ministry through council of nicaea,and so on the revision being made till they have their desired book called 'WORD of GOD'
it's not worth to tell christian to worship GOD alone..eventhough they know the one that declared the trinity doctrine is not GOD Himself but the council of nicea.man made interprentation base on selected gospels (that is 'according to' so called jesus' disciple) to satisfied their pagan origin.since the ancient time,no matter how many prophets was sent ,people still like to wroship another nature/creature being.untill then they worship the prophet himself.
@hatecrewfungus Mhmd belieevd the selected Gospels were from God. He tells Christians to obey and follow their scriptures (Quran 5:46,47,66,68). Christians worship God alone who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Allah is the Holy Trinity.
@evo55 it's never mentioned in Holy Quran that Injil(gospel) or other books before is numerous neither selectable.and those book were given to their repective prophets Zabur(Psalm) to David(PBUH),Tawrat(Torah) to Moses(PBUH), Injil(Gospel) to Jesus(PBUH) and Quran to Muhammad(PBUH).not to any apostles or any other human claimed themselves(or by others) as divinely inspired.most importantly,the gospels is only 'According to',no clear authorship.Alone=One=No companion, for ALLAH is Almighty
@mrlogicalman1 Christians are monotheists. Christians worship one God who exists as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Christians worship God in Spirit and in Truth as Jesus taught us to. Muslims worship in ignorance and error according to the confused teachings of Muhammed. He was an ignorant man who never studied the Bible. What Mhmd says in the Quran cannot be trusted.
Muhammad affirmed the Law, and the Gospels as true and authoritative. Later, in response to the evident contradictions, Islam taught that the Bible was changed to say things which the Qur'an and Islam denies.However, such a change would require an almost complete rewriting of the entire New Testament, and somel changes of the Old.Muhammad appeals to the Bible as a verifying source of Truth, how can Islam now say the Bible was altered to declare the death and resurrection of Jesus
The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 C.E. Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy. He had quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This shows that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity.
@Welle92 -This is a myth that began with Muhammed Rahim. Even when hard pressed to present facts, Rahim could not provide evidence of his claims. In fact Iranaeus never quotes The Gospel of Barnabas and he does not oppose Paul's teachings as Rahim states. Please read " Iranaeus Against Heresies" Also Rahim lost a great deal of credibility when he stated Barnabas' grave contained a copy of the book. In fact it was the book of Matthew. Please do more research.
@Welle92 -Finally, as I've mentioned before, references have been made to events, or writings, in the 1300's. My statements were accurate and I assure you, they will withstand any scrutiny. God Bless
@abdelali2012 -Because the Book of Barnabas has been discredited and is not, nor has it ever been, "our book." It is a complete forgery produced in the 1300's. God Bless.
@abdelali2012-NO that was the EPISTLE OF BARNABAS. Completely different book. The book of Barnabas is a forgery from the 1300's. Our bible was compiled in the 3rd century AD. Also the Epistle of Barnabas speaks about Jesus being the Messiah. Whereas the forgery denies Christ as the Messiah. PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH-IT PREVENTS CONFUSION.
@abdelali2012 There are no errors in the Bible that affect the spiritual truths taught in the Bible. The Bible is a book written by men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Bible is primarily a spiritual book that helps us to grow in the knowledge of God. It's aim is to teach us about God and man, and how we are to love God and one another.
@evo55 so it s just a human's words not God's words , Humans do mistakes but God don t , so if the bible is human's words it fulls of errors , but we say it s God's words but changed by it followers bc it was written after along years of its revelation !!
@abdelali2012 The Quran has nothing but the words of Muhammed from an evil spirit. The Bible has words of men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit, who reveals the spiritual truth of God. Muhammed was not inspired by the Holy Spirit but an evil spirit of deception. The Quran does not contain spirtual truth from God but deception from Satan.
You are ignorant, miresable man. Muhammed s.a.w.s. is messenger of Allah s.w.t. and he recieved proclamation from Allah s.w.t. directly. Holy spirit is, actually, Džibril (Gabriel) a.s. Bible is outdate and awry scripture, christians are distorted Indžil (Gospels), same as jewish people who distorted Tewrat (Torah).
On the other side, christianity is based on satan lies: crucifixion, holy trinity (which is satanistic, unholy, dirty lie), and Bible as distorted book don't confirmed this lie. Christianity is idolatry of false gods, we will crush that lie, Vatican will burn, Insallah, and, you, if you stay on that dirty pagan beliefs, you will burn in hell. But, before that, you will taste the sword of Jihad, may Allah condemned you!!!
@Nedimazz The curse of Allah is upon Muhammed and Islam for the blasphemy in Quran 9:30. Muhammed was an ignorant man who never studied the Bible. Even so, he believed Christians have the true scriptures from God but were not obeying them. There is no evidence the scriptures were changed after the time of Mhmd but are the same as in the time of Mhmd.
@Nedimazz Muhammed believed Christians and Jews have the true scriptures from God. He tells Jews to study the Torah (Quran 3:93) and Christians to judge by the Torah and Gospel (Quran 5:46,47). Mhmd tells Jews and Christians to obey their scriptures (Quran 5:66,68).
@aca28833 Those books have not changed. They contain the same message as in the time of Muhammed. The Latin Vulgate and other ancient Bibles that existed in the time of Muhammed contain the same message as in modern Bibles.
@evo55 Yeah the were changed before, the synoptic Gospels were written like 200 yrs after Jesus, and the Gospel of John was written even later.. The oldest version of the gospel still exists in Jerusalem in 1 copy and it says nothing of the crucifixion, son of god, etc.
@aca28833 The synoptic Gospels were all written in the 1st century AD. The Gospel of John was written no later than 90 AD. This was all within the lifetime of the first disciples of Jesus. The Quran was invented by Muhammed 600+ yrs after Jesus. The synoptic Gospels certainly have more credibility than the Quran which was invented by a man who never knew Jesus or his disciples.
@aca28833 There is no truth to your claim about an oldest version of the Bible existing in Jerusalem. Your ignorance of the true Bible is keeping you trapped in the lies of Islam. You should love God with all your mind by studying the Jewish/Christian scriptures - this is what Jesus teaches us to do.
@evo55 jewish/christian scriptures? you do know that jews hate jesus right? and they mock christians for saying he is son of god. you christians are so deluded.
and here is what james, jesus's brother had to say about jesus
@euro106 Some unbelieving Jews may hate Jesus but that does not mean we should reject the Jewish scriptures. The Jewish scriptures confirm the Christian faith as being the next revelation from God. Even the Quran tells Muslims, they should believe what was been sent down to Jews & Christians in their books. Christians accept the word of James concerning Jesus. We have the Letter of James in our Bible. Why don't Muslims have the Letter of James in the Quran? Why don't Muslims study the Bible?.
@evo55 are you really that ignorant? the torah is against the "trinity" and any kind of "son of god", or anything added to god, he alone is the creator he alone is the sustainer, he doesnt beget nor is he begotten. and you know nothing about the quran. the quran does state that the gospel is a revelation of god, but the current bible is not the gospel, it may have some of its attributes, but it has been changed and corrupted so many times, that it no longer is the word of god
@evo55 the NIV(new international version), NLT(new living translation), GWT(gods word translation), WEB(world english bible), and YLT(young literal translation) versions, never mention the word begotten, so now you have different bibles contradicting eachother. who to believe? the bible is corrupt, has been changed by men many times, and the biggest one was at the council of nicaea byt emperor constantine in the 4th century
@euro106 You are citing Protestant versions of the Bible, but I only trust Catholic versions which give a more accurate translation. The word "begotten" is used in Psalm 2:7 in referrence to the Messiah being from God. Christians don't interpret the word begotten in a literal sense but in a spiritual sense. Christians believe the Messiah comes from God and is of the same essence as God. Jesus is therefore God's divine son conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary.
@euro106 You are mistaken about the First Council of Nicea. The First Council of Nicea convened by Constantine did not issue any proclamations about books of the Bible. The Bible was not corrupted by Constantine but carries the same message as in the time of Jesus and his first disciples.
@euro106 Muhammed, who lived 300 yrs after Constantine, did not believe the Bible to be corrupted. He believed Christians have the true scriptures from God (Quran 5:46,47,66,68).
@euro106 Muhammed believed that Christians have the true scriptures from God. The historical evidence proves that the scriptures used by Christians in the time of Mhmd are the same scriptures as in modern Bibles. There is no evidence that the message of the Gospel was changed or corrupted after the time of Mhmd.
@euro106 God does beget by the Holy Spirit. The Pslams 2:7 declare the Messiah to be the begotten son of God. These are the Jewish scriptures given to the prophet David.
@evo55 the NIV(new international version), NLT(new living translation), GWT(gods word translation), WEB(world english bible), and YLT(young literal translation) versions, never mention the word begotten, so now you have different bibles contradicting eachother. who to believe? the bible is corrupt, has been changed by men many times, and the biggest one was at the council of nicaea byt emperor constantine in the 4th century
@evo55 The evidence is in the link i gave, but as is typical of Christians when presented with evidence contrary to their beliefs you choose to stay ignorant. You need to stop following the teachings of Paul the Christian slayer and follow the teachings of Jesus who said "the father is greater than I", "I did not come to abolish the law but to confirm it". And any secular religious scholar will tell u that the synoptic gospels were written over 200yrs after Jesus and John was written even
@aca28833 You are sadly mistaken, no secular Bible scholar would agree that the synoptic gospels were written 200 yrs after Jesus. They would agree that these gospels were all written in the 1st century AD. Jesus did say, "the Father is greater than I" but that does not deny his divinity. An ocean is greater than a drop of water but they are both H2O. Christians believe that Jesus is of the same essence as the Father, He is Light from Light and God from God.
@aca28833 Paul did at one time persecute Christians but was transformed by a miraculous encounter with the resurrected Christ into an apostle. Paul was accepted as a true apostle by the original disciples of Jesus. They had the discernment of the Holy Spirit to help them to correctly judge Paul to be a true Christian convert and apostle of Jesus. If Paul was accepted by Peter and all the original apostles, who are we to disagree. Their testimony is more sure than we who live 2000 yrs after.
@evo55 later. If u want to have an intelligent discussion look at the evidence I have provided u and bring a counter argument if u have one, but if u choose to remain ignorant keep ur ignorance to urself..
@aca28833 You provide no qualified evidence but only Islamic taqiya. Islam is a satanic delusion sent to fool ignorant people who have no love for God or the Truth. The true believers are those who love God with all their mind by studying the Bible.
@evo55 The source I gave u was not Islamic it was secular, u did not watch it, u do not want intelligent discourse, on that note I will end this conversation with the 2nd commandment "though shalt not make physical representations of that which is in the heavens, on earth, or in the sea".. stop idolizing Jesus
@aca28833 The person who uploaded the video onto YouTube is a Muslim. He misunderstood the content of the video as denying the teachings of Christianity. He entitles the video "Oldest Bible found in Palestine - Jesus was a Servant and not God himself" The subject of the video is the Didache, a Christian manual from the 2nd century that confirms Christian practices such as baptizing converts in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Christians believe Jesus was the divine Servant of God.
@evo55 and I think u are some half "christian" half "agnostic" and half "believer" of zeus from olimp.I will write part of Bible(New Testimony) chapter God"s Wrath against sinsfull humanity,gess u trying believe in preaching from there(usual on own hand with bunch of deceptions without even reading scriptures)Can any of u infidels ((: even read own books before saying insane things?Part of chapter going under...Enjoy
...20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
@TheAmch0 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God FOR IMAGES MADE TO LOOK LIKE A MORTAL HUMAN BEING and birds and animals and reptiles.
@TheAmch0 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
@TheAmch0 The insane one was Muhammed. He belieevd himself possesed by an evil spirit and tried to kill himself. He uttered the satanic verses and invented the Quran that is filled with many satanic verses.
@aca28833 Muslims should stop idolizing Muhammed. He was never a prophet of God nor a perfect model for humanity. Christians don't idolize Jesus but honor Him as we honor the Father. Jesus said that people should honor the Son as they honor the Father. God has exalted Jesus to be honored as one God with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
@aca28833 The 2nd commandent in no way prohibit Christians from worshipping Jesus. The 2nd commandment prohibits Jews from making images and worshipping them as gods.
@aca28833 The "old Bible" found in Palestine is a book called the Didache which confirms that Christians are to baptize converts in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This book was used by the early Church as a manual for Christian practice. In no way does the Didache confirm the Quran to be the true book of God..
@evo55 so it s just a human's words not God's words , Humans do mistakes but God don t , so if the bible is human's words it fulls of errors , but we say it s God's words but changed by it followers bc it was written after along years of its revelation !!
@abdelali2012 Muhammed believed the Jews and Christians have the true scriptures from God (Surah 3:93; 5:46,47,66,68). There is no evidence that the true message of the Bible was changed after the time of Muhammed. To say the message of the Bible has been changed is to contradict the Quran and the historical evidence of the Dead Sea Scrolls and other ancient Bible texts.
This book was written approx. 1300 years after Christ and 700 years after Muhammad. It was crafted to falsely validate Mohammad ism through the disciple Barnabas; which is why people of Islam follow the teachings so closely. The book contains references to; the 100 year celebration of the Jubilee(c. 1300AD), Dante's Inferno,"false and lying gods", etc. I pray Muslims will receive God's love through Christ's salvation.
So,......I'm so confused about things,....there seem to be so many conflicting views for the way to such simple and beautiful truths. Everybody says you have to suffer to be like Jesus. How can that be the only way ? It makes no sense, and literally rips my heart in two.
1isaacmusic 1 week ago
christians are just a cult that does human worship and believes in human sacrifice a pagan evil belief that has no place in this world. nor is raping kids in church to convert them by scaring,brainwashing and traumatising ect them into church bullshit
mrlogicalman1 1 week ago
@mrlogicalman1 Christians worship God who came in human form in the person of Jesus. He came as a sacrifice for sins according to what was foretold by Moses and the Israelite prophets. The Quran tells Muslims they must believe what has been revealed to Jews and Christians in their scriptures. Muslims who reject the Jewish/Christian Bible are unbelievers.
evo55 1 week ago
the book of barnabas is false, the book of acts paul and barnabas ackowledge christ as the son of god, islam is garbage, and mohammed is a false prophit leading masses to hell.
freshprince1187 3 weeks ago
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the gospels was re-writen and compiled base on their perception and interpretation mainly after the death of jesus(as christian believe jesus was once dead).this 'perception and interpretation' itself was led by human desire since it's clearly base on the story from one to another.only the chosen gospels then selected as an authorized,hudred of years after jesus' ministry through council of nicaea,and so on the revision being made till they have their desired book called 'WORD of GOD'
hatecrewfungus 1 month ago
it's not worth to tell christian to worship GOD alone..eventhough they know the one that declared the trinity doctrine is not GOD Himself but the council of nicea.man made interprentation base on selected gospels (that is 'according to' so called jesus' disciple) to satisfied their pagan origin.since the ancient time,no matter how many prophets was sent ,people still like to wroship another nature/creature being.untill then they worship the prophet himself.
hatecrewfungus 1 month ago
@hatecrewfungus Mhmd belieevd the selected Gospels were from God. He tells Christians to obey and follow their scriptures (Quran 5:46,47,66,68). Christians worship God alone who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Allah is the Holy Trinity.
evo55 1 month ago
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@evo55 it's never mentioned in Holy Quran that Injil(gospel) or other books before is numerous neither selectable.and those book were given to their repective prophets Zabur(Psalm) to David(PBUH),Tawrat(Torah) to Moses(PBUH), Injil(Gospel) to Jesus(PBUH) and Quran to Muhammad(PBUH).not to any apostles or any other human claimed themselves(or by others) as divinely inspired.most importantly,the gospels is only 'According to',no clear authorship.Alone=One=No companion, for ALLAH is Almighty
hatecrewfungus 1 month ago
@evo55 all prophets said there is ONE god. not three. its a pagan belief xtians are just another cult that does human worship and human sacrifice
mrlogicalman1 1 week ago
@mrlogicalman1 Christians are monotheists. Christians worship one God who exists as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Christians worship God in Spirit and in Truth as Jesus taught us to. Muslims worship in ignorance and error according to the confused teachings of Muhammed. He was an ignorant man who never studied the Bible. What Mhmd says in the Quran cannot be trusted.
evo55 1 week ago
I tried reading the Koran, but I found it very confusing.
adventureworkful 5 months ago
Who is the artist and the name of this track? Where can I find it?
Zoomba222 7 months ago
@Zoomba222 the artist is Ibrahim Assaid
abdelali2012 5 months ago
It's a 16th century forgery.
TheDajjal1 7 months ago
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Muhammad affirmed the Law, and the Gospels as true and authoritative. Later, in response to the evident contradictions, Islam taught that the Bible was changed to say things which the Qur'an and Islam denies.However, such a change would require an almost complete rewriting of the entire New Testament, and somel changes of the Old.Muhammad appeals to the Bible as a verifying source of Truth, how can Islam now say the Bible was altered to declare the death and resurrection of Jesus
irishtubemaker2011 8 months ago
book of lies.......
rajonathanful 8 months ago
The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 C.E. Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy. He had quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This shows that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity.
Welle92 8 months ago
@Welle92 -This is a myth that began with Muhammed Rahim. Even when hard pressed to present facts, Rahim could not provide evidence of his claims. In fact Iranaeus never quotes The Gospel of Barnabas and he does not oppose Paul's teachings as Rahim states. Please read " Iranaeus Against Heresies" Also Rahim lost a great deal of credibility when he stated Barnabas' grave contained a copy of the book. In fact it was the book of Matthew. Please do more research.
ndependentwoman 8 months ago
@Welle92 -Finally, as I've mentioned before, references have been made to events, or writings, in the 1300's. My statements were accurate and I assure you, they will withstand any scrutiny. God Bless
ndependentwoman 8 months ago
i don t understand why you christains refuse even your own written books !!!?
abdelali2012 8 months ago
@abdelali2012 -Because the Book of Barnabas has been discredited and is not, nor has it ever been, "our book." It is a complete forgery produced in the 1300's. God Bless.
ndependentwoman 8 months ago
@abdelali2012 - Please do your research. The Book of Barnabas was NEVER PART OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE.
ndependentwoman 7 months ago
@ndependentwoman of course it was but unknown to almost christains
abdelali2012 5 months ago
@abdelali2012-NO that was the EPISTLE OF BARNABAS. Completely different book. The book of Barnabas is a forgery from the 1300's. Our bible was compiled in the 3rd century AD. Also the Epistle of Barnabas speaks about Jesus being the Messiah. Whereas the forgery denies Christ as the Messiah. PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH-IT PREVENTS CONFUSION.
ndependentwoman 5 months ago
@abdelali2012 The Gospel of Barnabas is not a Christian book but an Islamic forgery. This fact is confirmed by the many errors found in it.
evo55 6 months ago
@evo55 , what about the errors found in the bible itself !!
abdelali2012 5 months ago
@abdelali2012 There are no errors in the Bible that affect the spiritual truths taught in the Bible. The Bible is a book written by men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Bible is primarily a spiritual book that helps us to grow in the knowledge of God. It's aim is to teach us about God and man, and how we are to love God and one another.
evo55 5 months ago
@evo55 so it s just a human's words not God's words , Humans do mistakes but God don t , so if the bible is human's words it fulls of errors , but we say it s God's words but changed by it followers bc it was written after along years of its revelation !!
abdelali2012 5 months ago
@abdelali2012 The Quran has nothing but the words of Muhammed from an evil spirit. The Bible has words of men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit, who reveals the spiritual truth of God. Muhammed was not inspired by the Holy Spirit but an evil spirit of deception. The Quran does not contain spirtual truth from God but deception from Satan.
evo55 5 months ago
You are ignorant, miresable man. Muhammed s.a.w.s. is messenger of Allah s.w.t. and he recieved proclamation from Allah s.w.t. directly. Holy spirit is, actually, Džibril (Gabriel) a.s. Bible is outdate and awry scripture, christians are distorted Indžil (Gospels), same as jewish people who distorted Tewrat (Torah).
Nedimazz 2 months ago
On the other side, christianity is based on satan lies: crucifixion, holy trinity (which is satanistic, unholy, dirty lie), and Bible as distorted book don't confirmed this lie. Christianity is idolatry of false gods, we will crush that lie, Vatican will burn, Insallah, and, you, if you stay on that dirty pagan beliefs, you will burn in hell. But, before that, you will taste the sword of Jihad, may Allah condemned you!!!
Nedimazz 2 months ago
@Nedimazz The curse of Allah is upon Muhammed and Islam for the blasphemy in Quran 9:30. Muhammed was an ignorant man who never studied the Bible. Even so, he believed Christians have the true scriptures from God but were not obeying them. There is no evidence the scriptures were changed after the time of Mhmd but are the same as in the time of Mhmd.
evo55 2 months ago
@Nedimazz Muhammed believed Christians and Jews have the true scriptures from God. He tells Jews to study the Torah (Quran 3:93) and Christians to judge by the Torah and Gospel (Quran 5:46,47). Mhmd tells Jews and Christians to obey their scriptures (Quran 5:66,68).
evo55 2 months ago
@evo55 That is referring to those books in their original forms which have since been changed
aca28833 1 month ago
@aca28833 Those books have not changed. They contain the same message as in the time of Muhammed. The Latin Vulgate and other ancient Bibles that existed in the time of Muhammed contain the same message as in modern Bibles.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 Yeah the were changed before, the synoptic Gospels were written like 200 yrs after Jesus, and the Gospel of John was written even later.. The oldest version of the gospel still exists in Jerusalem in 1 copy and it says nothing of the crucifixion, son of god, etc.
aca28833 1 month ago
@aca28833 The synoptic Gospels were all written in the 1st century AD. The Gospel of John was written no later than 90 AD. This was all within the lifetime of the first disciples of Jesus. The Quran was invented by Muhammed 600+ yrs after Jesus. The synoptic Gospels certainly have more credibility than the Quran which was invented by a man who never knew Jesus or his disciples.
evo55 1 month ago
@aca28833 There is no truth to your claim about an oldest version of the Bible existing in Jerusalem. Your ignorance of the true Bible is keeping you trapped in the lies of Islam. You should love God with all your mind by studying the Jewish/Christian scriptures - this is what Jesus teaches us to do.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 jewish/christian scriptures? you do know that jews hate jesus right? and they mock christians for saying he is son of god. you christians are so deluded.
and here is what james, jesus's brother had to say about jesus
/watch?v=AomH0mf-7ho
euro106 1 month ago
@euro106 Some unbelieving Jews may hate Jesus but that does not mean we should reject the Jewish scriptures. The Jewish scriptures confirm the Christian faith as being the next revelation from God. Even the Quran tells Muslims, they should believe what was been sent down to Jews & Christians in their books. Christians accept the word of James concerning Jesus. We have the Letter of James in our Bible. Why don't Muslims have the Letter of James in the Quran? Why don't Muslims study the Bible?.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 are you really that ignorant? the torah is against the "trinity" and any kind of "son of god", or anything added to god, he alone is the creator he alone is the sustainer, he doesnt beget nor is he begotten. and you know nothing about the quran. the quran does state that the gospel is a revelation of god, but the current bible is not the gospel, it may have some of its attributes, but it has been changed and corrupted so many times, that it no longer is the word of god
euro106 1 month ago
@euro106 The Torah is not against the Trinity. In Genesis 18:1-3, it is written that God appeared to Abraham in the form of three men.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 the NIV(new international version), NLT(new living translation), GWT(gods word translation), WEB(world english bible), and YLT(young literal translation) versions, never mention the word begotten, so now you have different bibles contradicting eachother. who to believe? the bible is corrupt, has been changed by men many times, and the biggest one was at the council of nicaea byt emperor constantine in the 4th century
euro106 1 day ago
@euro106 You are citing Protestant versions of the Bible, but I only trust Catholic versions which give a more accurate translation. The word "begotten" is used in Psalm 2:7 in referrence to the Messiah being from God. Christians don't interpret the word begotten in a literal sense but in a spiritual sense. Christians believe the Messiah comes from God and is of the same essence as God. Jesus is therefore God's divine son conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary.
evo55 1 day ago
@euro106 You are mistaken about the First Council of Nicea. The First Council of Nicea convened by Constantine did not issue any proclamations about books of the Bible. The Bible was not corrupted by Constantine but carries the same message as in the time of Jesus and his first disciples.
evo55 1 day ago
@euro106 Muhammed, who lived 300 yrs after Constantine, did not believe the Bible to be corrupted. He believed Christians have the true scriptures from God (Quran 5:46,47,66,68).
evo55 1 day ago
@euro106 Muhammed believed that Christians have the true scriptures from God. The historical evidence proves that the scriptures used by Christians in the time of Mhmd are the same scriptures as in modern Bibles. There is no evidence that the message of the Gospel was changed or corrupted after the time of Mhmd.
evo55 1 month ago
@euro106 God does beget by the Holy Spirit. The Pslams 2:7 declare the Messiah to be the begotten son of God. These are the Jewish scriptures given to the prophet David.
evo55 1 month ago
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@evo55 the NIV(new international version), NLT(new living translation), GWT(gods word translation), WEB(world english bible), and YLT(young literal translation) versions, never mention the word begotten, so now you have different bibles contradicting eachother. who to believe? the bible is corrupt, has been changed by men many times, and the biggest one was at the council of nicaea byt emperor constantine in the 4th century
euro106 1 day ago
@evo55 The evidence is in the link i gave, but as is typical of Christians when presented with evidence contrary to their beliefs you choose to stay ignorant. You need to stop following the teachings of Paul the Christian slayer and follow the teachings of Jesus who said "the father is greater than I", "I did not come to abolish the law but to confirm it". And any secular religious scholar will tell u that the synoptic gospels were written over 200yrs after Jesus and John was written even
aca28833 1 month ago
@aca28833 You are sadly mistaken, no secular Bible scholar would agree that the synoptic gospels were written 200 yrs after Jesus. They would agree that these gospels were all written in the 1st century AD. Jesus did say, "the Father is greater than I" but that does not deny his divinity. An ocean is greater than a drop of water but they are both H2O. Christians believe that Jesus is of the same essence as the Father, He is Light from Light and God from God.
evo55 1 month ago
@aca28833 Paul did at one time persecute Christians but was transformed by a miraculous encounter with the resurrected Christ into an apostle. Paul was accepted as a true apostle by the original disciples of Jesus. They had the discernment of the Holy Spirit to help them to correctly judge Paul to be a true Christian convert and apostle of Jesus. If Paul was accepted by Peter and all the original apostles, who are we to disagree. Their testimony is more sure than we who live 2000 yrs after.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 later. If u want to have an intelligent discussion look at the evidence I have provided u and bring a counter argument if u have one, but if u choose to remain ignorant keep ur ignorance to urself..
aca28833 1 month ago
@aca28833 You provide no qualified evidence but only Islamic taqiya. Islam is a satanic delusion sent to fool ignorant people who have no love for God or the Truth. The true believers are those who love God with all their mind by studying the Bible.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 The source I gave u was not Islamic it was secular, u did not watch it, u do not want intelligent discourse, on that note I will end this conversation with the 2nd commandment "though shalt not make physical representations of that which is in the heavens, on earth, or in the sea".. stop idolizing Jesus
aca28833 1 month ago
@aca28833 The person who uploaded the video onto YouTube is a Muslim. He misunderstood the content of the video as denying the teachings of Christianity. He entitles the video "Oldest Bible found in Palestine - Jesus was a Servant and not God himself" The subject of the video is the Didache, a Christian manual from the 2nd century that confirms Christian practices such as baptizing converts in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Christians believe Jesus was the divine Servant of God.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 and I think u are some half "christian" half "agnostic" and half "believer" of zeus from olimp.I will write part of Bible(New Testimony) chapter God"s Wrath against sinsfull humanity,gess u trying believe in preaching from there(usual on own hand with bunch of deceptions without even reading scriptures)Can any of u infidels ((: even read own books before saying insane things?Part of chapter going under...Enjoy
TheAmch0 2 days ago
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...20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
TheAmch0 2 days ago
@TheAmch0 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God FOR IMAGES MADE TO LOOK LIKE A MORTAL HUMAN BEING and birds and animals and reptiles.
TheAmch0 2 days ago
@TheAmch0 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
TheAmch0 2 days ago
@TheAmch0 The insane one was Muhammed. He belieevd himself possesed by an evil spirit and tried to kill himself. He uttered the satanic verses and invented the Quran that is filled with many satanic verses.
evo55 1 day ago
@aca28833 Muslims should stop idolizing Muhammed. He was never a prophet of God nor a perfect model for humanity. Christians don't idolize Jesus but honor Him as we honor the Father. Jesus said that people should honor the Son as they honor the Father. God has exalted Jesus to be honored as one God with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
evo55 1 month ago
@aca28833 The 2nd commandent in no way prohibit Christians from worshipping Jesus. The 2nd commandment prohibits Jews from making images and worshipping them as gods.
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 Truth defeats Islam and silences Muslims.
evo55 2 weeks ago
@evo55 Check out this video.. "An old bible found in Palestine confirms that the Quran is the true book of GOD.. "
aca28833 1 month ago
@aca28833 The "old Bible" found in Palestine is a book called the Didache which confirms that Christians are to baptize converts in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This book was used by the early Church as a manual for Christian practice. In no way does the Didache confirm the Quran to be the true book of God..
evo55 1 month ago
@evo55 so it s just a human's words not God's words , Humans do mistakes but God don t , so if the bible is human's words it fulls of errors , but we say it s God's words but changed by it followers bc it was written after along years of its revelation !!
abdelali2012 5 months ago
@abdelali2012 Muhammed believed the Jews and Christians have the true scriptures from God (Surah 3:93; 5:46,47,66,68). There is no evidence that the true message of the Bible was changed after the time of Muhammed. To say the message of the Bible has been changed is to contradict the Quran and the historical evidence of the Dead Sea Scrolls and other ancient Bible texts.
evo55 5 months ago
This book was written approx. 1300 years after Christ and 700 years after Muhammad. It was crafted to falsely validate Mohammad ism through the disciple Barnabas; which is why people of Islam follow the teachings so closely. The book contains references to; the 100 year celebration of the Jubilee(c. 1300AD), Dante's Inferno,"false and lying gods", etc. I pray Muslims will receive God's love through Christ's salvation.
ndependentwoman 9 months ago
@ndependentwoman praise the lord.
irishtubemaker2011 8 months ago
book of lies
777Zeppy 9 months ago
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טז חִכּוֹ, מַמְתַקִּים, וְכֻלּוֹ, מַחֲמַדִּים; זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי, בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם.
فمه هو الأكثر الحلو؛ نعم، تماما انه هو محمد. هذا هو بلدي الحبيب، وهذا هو صديقي يا بنات أورشليم '.
[16] His words are the most loved: yea, he is most definantly Muhammad [מַחֲמַדִּים]
. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. soung of soungs
hallalmart 10 months ago