Isn't soda bicarb is basic isn't it? If enough of that stuff gets into the surroundings or water table, you'll have a problem. Saying that it doesn't have chemicals, will make people not take the normal precautions... also even though its not caustic it's still a chemical...
@JaisenJames All it is is baking soda, so if you have ever eaten anything baked, you've eaten this, it's not harmful unless you sit there and ingest it left and right. Also, if you want to have fun, when your done throw vinegar all over and enjoy.
I imagine the crystals of sodium bicarbonate, would shatter on impact - can you put the bicarb into a tank of water, float the crap off it and then dry the solution / sludge out in big wide shallow trays and let the bicarb recrystalise?
I was thinking that the ONE supply of bicarb should be able to be reused 100's of times.
Perhaps some additional purifying through sedimentation of crud out of the solution etc....
@CaseyMcLaughalot Baking soda is not abrasive enough to remove heavy rust unless it is already loose or flaking, surface rust should be no problem. Eastwood sells a two tank unit that allows you to "blend" soda and sand to make it more abrasive to remove heavier rust or scale. You always have to shoot at an angle, it helps keep the area your blasting clean so you can see what you are doing. I use a slight angle and a small circular motion when I soda blast.
@CaseyMcLaughalot I generally use 70lbs on my big machine. It's the volume of air not the pressure that works best with soda. that is why it is delicate enough to strip aluminum and other thin metals. I can go as low as 35lbs but my compressor puts out 210CFM @175psi. I think with your set-up you will be running somewhere between 80 and 100psi. The converted sand blasters use approx. 8 - 12cfm at that air pressure so it depends on your compressors output, you may have to stop to let catch up.
@CaseyMcLaughalot In my commercial machine 50lbs of soda lasts about an hour. I have an Eastwood unit which I bought first and it worked but was painfully slow. The biggest problem I had was with soda flow. I ended up bolting on an air vibrator to the frame and it helped a lot. You should get about 25 to 30min between filling up the hopper on your unit if you have it set right. You'll always get a surge of soda when you open the valve but it should set it to a thin flow with more air than soda.
I remember a little over twenty years ago when I help a friend strip all the paint from his Porsche 928. We used a liquid aircraft paint stripper and had to wear rubber gloves and deal with the fumes and also what to do with the sludge (removed paint mixed with stripper). It took us a couple of weeks and we still had spots where we had to use a wire wheel and old toothbrush for tight areas. Today at the shop we can do a car in a couple of days and leave no caustic residue behind.
thanks for responding.... it's my dad's car and he needs to fix many other things on it first, but when the time comes we will seriously consider this. I think your price is reasonable and this would save us a lot of time and work. We're kind of far (at the tip of texas in brownsville) , so we'll have to consider that too... lol... anyways thanks again!
@u2bed91 Yes it is far and there are other people in Texas that can soda blasting. Check out our other company online 10 MotorworksLLC. we do full restoration and fabrication. If you need any other work then it might be worth while.
I would charge $800 to do the outside of the car and $1200 to do the outside, engine bay, trunk and underside (undercoating removal will add to the quote).
Only because we are outside in the open. We have a soda blasting room and we use an air supplied respirator system. There are no fumes involved in soda blasting. It is categorized only as a nuisance dust, a paint respirator just adds carbon filters which are for fume and vapor removal to the particulate removal.
@raremountainbear Your right about fine paint particles but most of them are heavy enough that they do not stay airborne for long but thanks for your concern. There are much more dangerous airborne contaminants indoors and at home to be worried about such as: Radon, asbestos, lead, sulfur dioxide, particulate matter, carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, mold, dust mites and not to mention carcinogens from second hand smoke. As for me, I use a air supplied respirator but to each his own.
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PsykoWaffle 1 week ago
Isn't soda bicarb is basic isn't it? If enough of that stuff gets into the surroundings or water table, you'll have a problem. Saying that it doesn't have chemicals, will make people not take the normal precautions... also even though its not caustic it's still a chemical...
JaisenJames 2 weeks ago
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@JaisenJames All it is is baking soda, so if you have ever eaten anything baked, you've eaten this, it's not harmful unless you sit there and ingest it left and right. Also, if you want to have fun, when your done throw vinegar all over and enjoy.
PsykoWaffle 1 week ago
i thought by soda blasting you meant puttin a bottle of coke in an air cannon and firing it at a car *retard face*
mikethenascarfan 2 months ago
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ngmaze 2 months ago
@ngmaze LOL at your comment
thedigitalpeople 3 days ago
I imagine the crystals of sodium bicarbonate, would shatter on impact - can you put the bicarb into a tank of water, float the crap off it and then dry the solution / sludge out in big wide shallow trays and let the bicarb recrystalise?
I was thinking that the ONE supply of bicarb should be able to be reused 100's of times.
Perhaps some additional purifying through sedimentation of crud out of the solution etc....
It's a thought.
callmeshane303 2 months ago
What kind of commercial equipment are you using? Can you apply a topcoat immediately after blasting or is some type of rinsing necessary?
HeroeznVillainz 2 months ago
I wonder how many cans they had to open...
sleepOhh 5 months ago
@CaseyMcLaughalot Baking soda is not abrasive enough to remove heavy rust unless it is already loose or flaking, surface rust should be no problem. Eastwood sells a two tank unit that allows you to "blend" soda and sand to make it more abrasive to remove heavier rust or scale. You always have to shoot at an angle, it helps keep the area your blasting clean so you can see what you are doing. I use a slight angle and a small circular motion when I soda blast.
Sodablaster305 10 months ago
@CaseyMcLaughalot I generally use 70lbs on my big machine. It's the volume of air not the pressure that works best with soda. that is why it is delicate enough to strip aluminum and other thin metals. I can go as low as 35lbs but my compressor puts out 210CFM @175psi. I think with your set-up you will be running somewhere between 80 and 100psi. The converted sand blasters use approx. 8 - 12cfm at that air pressure so it depends on your compressors output, you may have to stop to let catch up.
Sodablaster305 10 months ago
@CaseyMcLaughalot In my commercial machine 50lbs of soda lasts about an hour. I have an Eastwood unit which I bought first and it worked but was painfully slow. The biggest problem I had was with soda flow. I ended up bolting on an air vibrator to the frame and it helped a lot. You should get about 25 to 30min between filling up the hopper on your unit if you have it set right. You'll always get a surge of soda when you open the valve but it should set it to a thin flow with more air than soda.
Sodablaster305 10 months ago 2
I remember a little over twenty years ago when I help a friend strip all the paint from his Porsche 928. We used a liquid aircraft paint stripper and had to wear rubber gloves and deal with the fumes and also what to do with the sludge (removed paint mixed with stripper). It took us a couple of weeks and we still had spots where we had to use a wire wheel and old toothbrush for tight areas. Today at the shop we can do a car in a couple of days and leave no caustic residue behind.
Sodablaster305 11 months ago
That is going to be an awesome bug...
vochitoken 1 year ago
thanks for responding.... it's my dad's car and he needs to fix many other things on it first, but when the time comes we will seriously consider this. I think your price is reasonable and this would save us a lot of time and work. We're kind of far (at the tip of texas in brownsville) , so we'll have to consider that too... lol... anyways thanks again!
u2bed91 1 year ago
@u2bed91 Yes it is far and there are other people in Texas that can soda blasting. Check out our other company online 10 MotorworksLLC. we do full restoration and fabrication. If you need any other work then it might be worth while.
Sodablaster305 1 year ago
how much would this cost on a 1966 dodge coronet convertible... it's a 2 door and the lenght of a single cab, short bed pickup
u2bed91 1 year ago
@u2bed91
I would charge $800 to do the outside of the car and $1200 to do the outside, engine bay, trunk and underside (undercoating removal will add to the quote).
Sodablaster305 1 year ago
No respirator - Just a paper mask?
OFR 1 year ago
@OFR
Only because we are outside in the open. We have a soda blasting room and we use an air supplied respirator system. There are no fumes involved in soda blasting. It is categorized only as a nuisance dust, a paint respirator just adds carbon filters which are for fume and vapor removal to the particulate removal.
Sodablaster305 1 year ago
@Sodablaster305 Yeah, right- like that guy's not breathing massive amounts of fine paint particles. Idiot.
raremountainbear 11 months ago
@raremountainbear Your right about fine paint particles but most of them are heavy enough that they do not stay airborne for long but thanks for your concern. There are much more dangerous airborne contaminants indoors and at home to be worried about such as: Radon, asbestos, lead, sulfur dioxide, particulate matter, carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, mold, dust mites and not to mention carcinogens from second hand smoke. As for me, I use a air supplied respirator but to each his own.
Sodablaster305 11 months ago
Baking soda in a granular form like sugar.
Sodablaster305 1 year ago
i'm confused.. soda like pepsi and coca cola??
soda pop?
baking soda?
ogskeetdizzle 1 year ago
@ogskeetdizzle Coca-Cola would certainly remove the paint. lol
pf126p 1 year ago