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  • I know him in person my dad is good friends with him

  • As usual - the clueless camera man is on the wrong guitarist at the wrong time...

  • Tremendous guitar playing. I'm actually unfamiliar with Nugent's work(though I've heard his name), but both of them are very inspired in their playing on this clip. It's not often that guitar works well by itself but this is a pleasing exception. Thanks for sharing it.

  • i saw pinera live in the 60's at venue called the bank in torrance s calf, he smoked then too

  • Mike Pinera was so much better than Ted it isn't funny, Ted looks like he's lost. Mike is solid and Ted's Rhythm is out to lunch. I saw this thing live and it wasn't even a contest. Ted only plays in baby tuning, those of you who don't get that probably never will.

  • @petricpl,

    This is a very long time ago. I don't know what this clip proves either way exactly. I can tell you one thing, I saw Uncle Ted live in Indianapolis last year. Make no mistake the man can play. I have seen some great guitarist live: steve vai, eric johnson, kenny wayne shepherd, etc.. Ted can hold his own live, trust me.

    He played for two hours and did not miss a note. Never heard such a wall of sound that came from those 5150's that night. Very underrated player imho.

  • Is Ted playing through a Kustom amp (facing backwards)? 

  • It's kind of funny you'll notice after watching it a few times. At the beginning, when they first cut over to Ted.... he's like, come on' man.,, lets get this jam going! lol. Like he's not use to waiting second on stage & Mikes kind of endulging in the moment! ^_^

  • this is when ted was great.

  • In this clip I think the story went that Ted turned his amp down out of respect for Mike. Ted was just coming along & Mike had been around for awhile.

  • @LoganUpABongHit Five years later Ted could have blown him off the stage.

  • @TheSanityInspector Are you referring to the albums that both of them put out between the 2? Or do you mean skill in general? I don't know Mikes pretty good man. I'm sure he wouldn't have had any trouble keeping up with Ted. :-) But yeah, Ted put out better music, sure.

  • @LoganUpABongHit I saw Ted Nugent when he was in his ear-shattering prime, at a time when Blues Images was just a memory of the hippy daze. I guess my impressions are colored by that. watch?v=cYOV8uu17t0

  • @TheSanityInspector I must say, this is definately my fav. vid. that I have saved that has 2 Legends jammin' together! ~_~

  • ted was opening shows for hendrix when he was 15 years old! met him too , he was cool, mike pinera is great too, obviously you know he played with alice cooper and blues image, and others this is a serious classic!

  • This is awesome!!!!!

  • Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • These 2 went on the road together as a battle of the guitars. I saw them in Evansville,IN on New Years Eve 1973. BTW Ted won the battle, it was awesome.

  • sigh... so cliche and dated. sound sucks, couldn't hear ted's amp sometimes. one for the history / nostalgia bin and not much more.

  • this is when real man were playing the guitars, not like today 3 cord mother%$#@!s.

  • What do you think Donald Trump has to say about this?

  • Mike Pinera #1

    Thee Image #1

  • Mike Pinera is a great player! Great tone and pretty much leaves Nugent in the dust!

  • @proteusu9 i<LL give that but ted was a solo man, mike had great sound right.

  • Guthrie Govan looks like a young Nuge.

  • Much Fucking Excellent ! THANX

  • Sorry but Nugent is mediocre and below average compared to others like Hendrix, Clapton, Santana, SRV etc of that time. Now, Websites are filled with guitarist that are superior. Also, at his last concert I left early because he just didnt have it and he tried to make up for it with volume.

  • @judedelux You probably don't realize that all of the guitarist you mentioned, besides Hendrix, don't hold a candle to the technical abilities of Ted Nugent. Just watch Stranglehold live in Detriot, and tell me if you think SRV could do that? The guy only used 3 fingers when he plays, and God gave him a pinky finger.... What a waste. But then again, you're probably into Buddy Guy solos and repetitive licks like those of Santana and SRV.

  • @faztwalk Thanks for the good laugh. Now that you have told us about your lack of taste in music lets us how how much you enjoy a tube streak over a New York Strip. Face it Nuggy the Skunk is a hasbeen that was a good guitarist in the 70s. Now he is below average.

  • @judedelux It's amazing how people go to all that trouble to make an insulting point and blow it all by misspelling their keyword. Tube steak suddenly becomes tube streak.

  • @MrAfroSheen yupe shit happens with auto spell in iPad. Most people got the meaning but were too busy with a life to waste time pointing spelling errors on these sites.

  • @judedelux "yupe", just blame it on the pad. Never mind actually proofreading. And I guess you aren't all that busy with a life since you're so quick on the draw.

  • @limeytrash Hey shit for brains, its proof reading: two words. Now go suck a limey.

  • @judedelux

    If you look at Ted's bio those guitaists mentioned are his hero's. I agree with everything else. My first band I used a LPB1 un hooked my speakers during TN songs and hooked up a PA horn for more highs and feedback.

  • Pinera's band was the Blues Image. Thee Image was a concert club on Sunny Isles Beach where they were one of the regular bands. ( I saw Led Zeppelin there in 1969). Blues Image was very popular in Miami. They were a Latin influenced rock-blues band well known in Miami before Santana. Listen to REality Does Not Inspire from their first album. I saw the Amboy Dukes at MIA Marine Stadium at about this time and Mike Pinera came on and jammed with them. Afterwards Ted Nugent jumped in the water.

  • Thanks for posting this rare gem.

    Electrix

  • Great Performance... it's rare to see those kind of jam ...and it's very instructive... i respect Nugent stuff back in the 70s (but not that much later) and Pinera work on Metamorphosis made it become my fave Iron Butterfly LP...

    but it seems impossible to listen to a song by Thee Image on the web (Pinera's band in 73-75)...

    I don't find them nowhere...it's quite frustratin...i don't have an idea of their sound

  • I saw Mike Pinera and the Nightcrawlers open for someone at Cobo Hall back in the day. Possibly Humble Pie. 1972 or73

  • I remember back in the day seeing Pinera tour with first his band Cactus then later he changed the name of the band to "Thee Image". He was always a great guy...put on a good show then come out and talk with us afterwards.

    Nugent is a better guitarist but Mike could still put on a show.

  • Such real respect they had for one another!!

  • somebody needs to find a way to make Ted louder or get a better version of this video up but still thank you conkyjoe for actually having this to put up

  • All hail the guitar gods

  • Wow ! Tear away the cobwebs. Pinera was always one of my favorite performers while growing up in Miami. I even remember seeing him at "the Experience" in N. Miami Beach when he was about 18. He was the best Hendrix cover ever. I saw him jam with Nugent and Bob Seeger one night at the Thunderbird Drive-in in Ft. Lauderdale. Those were the days ! And, how about all those great concerts at "The Image" in North Miami Beach when "Blues Image" was the house band ! Awesomeness !

  • @iamthemindseye Thanks for sharing your "rare stories" also with us..All I can say is WOW, is this great stuff or what, and reminds us all of the weight some of us can gain over the years..Mike is huge now (like myself) but a hell of a guy! Thanks! It's that emotionalstress that some carry I imagine..super dooper

  • Did they dead?

  • @thinchris Ted Nugent is still alive and rockin' I don't know about Mike though.

  • @IxIFLASHxBANGIxI Does they did died?

  • @thinchris can u spell dude? how old are u 9

  • @manny45629 44 Did does they done dead moran?

  • @IxIFLASHxBANGIxI Mike's still goin with The Classic Rock All Stars!

  • This is great! Man that Fender Birdland is a monster guitar!

  • @SonofThor73 dude Birdlands are made by Gibson, not Fender

  • @SonofThor73 Birdlands are Gibsons not Fenders

  • @russellzmi It's actually spelled Byrdland. That model was named for Hank Garland and Billy Byrd who designed it. Ted was the only one crazy enough to use it for hard rock!  I recently heard his first solo album and it was better than I remembered. Good guitar work on it but I think he just kept going down hill after that.

  • Pantera was excellent !!

  • wow where did u find this ,its amazing thanks for posting

  • This is great footage!!!! Doubt they really rehearsed it much. Totally organic I bet!!! Can't be compared to Green Day or any other band for that matter. Why? because every player writes a different tune!!! Be it blues, country, rock, punk, metal or any other genre it all has a different flavor cause each player has had a different life experience. Just enjoy the music.

  • where is this from?????????

  • FAR-OUT GROOVEY STUFF!!!!

  • Freindly jam, backroom jam on stage between freinds, exprimentation,but definately compitition!

  • Thanks for posting !

  • conkyjoe, thanks for sharing THIS! at the time of this writing, i see 154 'for', versus 15 'against'. to me, that's called winning by a 'landslide'.

  • Why are you saying that Nugent left him in the dust ?

    They are both great , Pinera play rythm-guitar and Gonzo play the solo that's all.

  • Now, THIS is something that you're NOT going to see 'everyday'. Thumbs-UP, and thanks for sharing, conkyjoe!

  • Its easy to recognize Nugent the Fake because all his crap sounds the same. Only in America can you become rich playing the same 3 cords and the same one riff.

  • @BuyAmerican100 A famous American once said: "It is far better to remain silent & appear a fool than to open one's mouth & remove all doubt."

    You have removed all doubt. If you don't like Nugent, why seek out his videos just to give your uninvited commentary ? If I don't like something, I don't watch it. You, on the other hand, must feel the uncontrollable urge to enlighten the rest of us.

    You wouldn't know primo guitar work it it hit you in your tone-deaf ass. Go troll somewhere else.

  • is it just me or in some parts does Mike Pinera remind you of angus young, kinda similar notes and scales played with loads of vibrato it might just be me though

  • wow this really sucks. booooooring.

  • Man, he's young! Probably no more than 21. Ted's playing was over the effing top even back then!

  • this is lame, just guitar. You need a whole band to fill out the sound

  • Not bad, but it sounds like they didn't know where to go with it. Without backup it sounds kind of thin and weak.

  • This proves it; rock n roll is the greatest invention since the wheel!

  • Thats e strings seen better days

  • si ted ce buzzait pas ou cest jamais buzzer cest un astie de menteur!!!!

  • damn ted looks like he works for geico

  • i love this jam it seems so psychedelic i remember when ted would do his battle of the bands i think frank marino may have been at a couple of those

  • @beefheart67 I read something years ago, that Nugent and Marino had jams every weekend almost. Ted mentioned that he heard his folks were moving away from Detroit (he was still a minor) and he found out which trucking company they were using and torched their trucks. Probably a slight exaggeration, but a measure of how he loved guitar batttles even then?

  • what r u ..... ? like 13 ? Ted rocks

  • Pinera did score a classic though with "Ride Captain Ride", and his work with Iron Butterfly wasn't bad.

  • hey conkey joe what island you from ?

  • God, this is boring.

  • roll on then

  • Pinera drove that jam.

  • dont often comment in fact first time but us brits getting a bit miffed when you slag of other greats , jimmy . alvin and jimi from your side of the pond enjoy all of them you willl never see them times again , 51 too old to see somme but still young enough to rememember great times

  • This is kind of trivial bit of white boy blues but completely blows away anything done by wimps like Green Day.

  • hola

  • @ReinhardtHendrix Ted left him in the dust!

  • Whatever happened to that interview with Ted from about 1970? Vid was hilarious. Mr Straight-edge Nuge was clearly stoned out of his mind. Far cry from the loudmouth asshole everyone's come to know. There was also a guitar solo from the same clip, with Terrible Ted splayed out on the floor. Nugent's management probably had them removed, no doubt.

  • ted nugent never said he was always sober. he became sober around 1973

  • Ted was 21 there. Young Ted!!!

  • Looks like a homosexual muppet on crack

  • Ted Nugent is Very Easily More than What you listen to , Even on his Own Songs .

  • Looks like these two invented Spinal Tap.

  • @kirkindysolospock

    HAHAHA! true humor!! Caught me off guard and I sprayed the screen with coffee!

  • zero to do with guitar playing.

  • Ted could keep up with any of them. Ok, he's not as original, but very few ordinary folks could play like him THEN.

    Of course everone can do it now and Ted never got much better. HIs playing on Survival of the Fittest was most excellent for that period. My friends and I all played guitar and Ted was every bit as tough to copy as anyone else......BACK THEN.

    There were no 'how to' videos. ...hell no vcrs, no internet nothing. Hindsight is wonderful.....but you'd have to have been there

  • Mike Pinera plays with more feeling than any guitarist that ever lived

    Thee Image Rules!!!!.

  • what is the black hollowbody Teds playing? is it his old friend or something he borrowed?

  • is that a byrdland?

  • Ted bought his first byrdland for 1000 buck when he was 12 that's what Ted said not me

  • I actually hung out with Pinera a few months back and we talked about this footage. He mentioned the Nugent hadnt ever jammed like this before and was nervous before they went on.

    Explains a bit more about why he wasnt as polished as Pinera. But Pinera is an amazing guitarist and is still making some classic jams.

  • Oh please! Stranglehold is sub-standard work?? Listen to any of his songs ..its sinic bombast rck n roll at its finest. Nobody plays faster. I think his finest sound was with Damn Yankees.

  • Its one thing to play for pure speed,but ted incorporates that chuck berry & old black blues heroes into that speed and plays those sets at a blistering pace.

    Marino is great and I havent heard that story.Havent heard of Shawn Lane either to be honest. But no matter.

    Try "Come Again"(Damn Yankees)

    Prodigal Man (Amboy Dukes)

    There are dozens of other songs that showcase his speed. I never claimed Ted was the greatest songwriter or singer, and I think his lack of chart hits makes him underrated

  • Look up : Damn Yankees - Come Again Intro (Live in Japan 93)

    great stuff

  • @playmayker88 hahaha well lack of chart hits will make anyone seem that way.....Ted likes to diss all the so called druggies that have passed but they all were way better than he could have dreamed of being

  • Ted was unsurpassed in 1970. Shawn Lane was like eons later, cannot compare them.

    Not many could play like Uncle Ted back in the day. It took the rest of the world a few years to catch him. The Amboy Dukes ruled Detroit in '69/70.

    Ted's best work was 'Survival of the Fittest' I've always thought.

    Ted DID admire Frank, he was about 17 at the time and Detroit D.J.'s went nuts over him. But Frank gets boring after a while..... :)

  • do whatcha gotta do jonsblutooth...u r the worthless piece of shit....fuckin retard....take ur meds jonsbluetooth

  • worthless piece of shit....die already

  • fuckin retard

  • Jesus, dude, this was choice footage in terms of its rarity. These kind of jams are always kinda hinky propositions and given how lame tv directors were back in that time about how they mic'ed and mixed rock acts, it is pretty typical that Ted got the short end of the stick soundwise here.

    Pinera's performance was a little more polished and focused while Ted was often just noodling, but I was still glad to see this. Definitely a product of its time.

  • Ted Nugent - America's top poster boy for Chicken Hawks. Mike makes him look like the pussy he his.

  • Wow! This brings back memories!

  • Mike Pinera is the best live guitarist I ever saw, but it was with the Blues Image before he went commercial and joined Iron Butterfly. Ted Nugent had nothing of the fire and soul that Pinera had. This video showed it, though the sound quality isn't very good. If you ever saw the Blues Image live before the Ride Captain Ride days you'd know what I mean. Burning energy.

  • As usual, Ted is carrying this guy all the way thru the jam. Hey, Pinera, just sit there and play rythm to Teds Greatness.

  • you're an idiot, thumbs down.

  • This is ridiculous! Pinera's amp has volume and distortion, Ted's has neither! Ted got hosed! Probably a consequence of plugging in to what they had sitting around the TV studio, instead of his own gear.

  • Damn, hands down this one goes to the Iron Butterfly guy! ...tho it might just be that his amp is so much louder than you cant properly hear Tedzo.

  • marvy1118:

    I can't quite see that riff into 'Cat Scratch Fever,' but if you search for 'Stormtroopin',' at the Rockpalast in '76, in one of Ted's solo riffs you'll recognize 'Cat Scratch Fever' there, about a year before the song was recorded. At 9:22, Ted's little riff at the end sounds like 'Below the Belt,' from 'Call of the Wild,' which was mid-'73.

    Can anyone identify Ted's amp? At about 5:43, you can see the amp is facing the back wall, which is probably why Ted's sound is so weak.

  • @efredfarm It looks like a Kustom combo with probably 4 10s...

  • Pinera kicks Ted's ass!

  • andysott = total left wing no nothing puss pube,

    ted found a unique voice through his guitar,

    music is much more than chords and notes,

  • nugent is a great musician and showman but hes also a right wing douche bag....totally my opininion.....so there...I said it.... pineras amp looks like a musicman....also totally my opinion

  • Well at least he's not a left wing douche bag! Ha Ha! (you asked for it) Anyway he is a great musician. Probably one of the most under-rated guitar players (probably because he can't keep his mouth shut). Gotta love your Uncle Ted though.

    Respect.

  • im not a left winger either, though i may be a douche bag, nugent was a decent songwriter but a LAME guitarist and even LAMER singer....I can out play the child molesting, draft dodging, coward......hahaha

  • Does anyone know what amp Pinera is using ?

  • Looks like an Acoustic, but you never get that good of a look at it.

  • At around 1:30, Mike starts playing a three chord pattern that sounds similar to Ted's huge hit of several years in the future, 'Cat Scratch Fever.'

  • Well, in all fairness.. Im sad to hear that side of Ted. He has been a ICON for me growing up. I'm a retired Paratrooper so I gave my country everything I have, but death was not in the cards, although I was prepared with Jesus to die for my country if necessary. Growing up in the seventies, I looked up to Ted and my first concert was the California Jam at the Ontario Motor Speedway. Im still digesting this news you bring to me.

    Later

    Mickey

  • what total bullshit

  • sorry, this was a reply to some dick below bad mouthing Ted....

  • 4:28-5:10 is my favorite part. Like this!!

  • Thanks Conky for this posting...it's amazing...both so good so long ago.

  • I saw one of their 'guitar battles' in 1974 @ the old St. Bernard Civic Auditorium. I don't even know if it still exists after Hurrican Katrina, but saw a lot of good shows there. In 74, Pinerea was fronting his version of Cactus.

  • nice!! miss the good old days. music sucks today.

    Wow I sound like my old man. But honestly

    I think it sucks. MTV what the F is that shit?

  • It surely isnt "Music" television anymore. They should be ashamed of themselves.

  • MTV should change its name to RTV, Reality TV.

  • how'd he go from this to damn yankees? too much protein, not enough drugs, i suppose.

  • ha ha ha ha.

    larilord has got somethin' there.

  • Very interesting artifact, conkyjoe; thanks for posting.

  • That sounds like the same type of VERY SAD news that brikleshit fabricated.

    Was Ted asked to reveal the size of his penis to this judge in a court, I wonder?

  • I met Pinera in the 1980s when he played at Hop Singh's before Danny Johnson (Rick Derringer, Steppenwolf) and the Bandits were onstage. I mentioned that I loved what he did with the Iron Butterfly in "Metamorphosis," and he gave me this blank stare as if to say, "Fuck off, you dweeb - life's a blue vein!" (That was the actual name of the song he was promoting at the time! I should look for it somewhere!)

    Anyway - despite their differences - both are definitely competing to be "alpha male!"

  • The only way that could be true is if Barak Obama had some mob thugs inject Ted while he was sleeping; Right after the Nuge performed stud service on Michelle.

  • I saw Ted in 1970, pretty cool..

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  • I saw Iron Butterfly in 1968, pretty cool..

    Check out my tunes if U get a chance..

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  • Ted should do potty training videos for toddlers. This video is a waste of your time.

  • a silly and childish post

  • jons

    Posting more of your lies again? I've already proven your "federal firearms registration" to be false. Now you expect everyone to forget you're a liar?

  • Is this one of the famous "Guitar duels" thay used to have?

  • nothin gets past you blu

  • Ahh yes, we have to believe everything that comes out of Courtney Love's mouth.

  • ...or goes in it...!

  • All you anti-nuge liberal pussies couldn't clean his loin cloth. Get fuct you whiney little sheepish girls.

  • I like Ted Nugent's playing in general, but this is just terrible.

  • That's one of the most uninspired, boring guitar jams I've ever seen.

  • nugent is a shitty player

  • jonsnotooth is a flaming homosexual, it must be true because it's on the internet!

  • nugent blows.

  • Not as well as your mama!

  • The riffing about a minute into the vid feels like an embryo of "Cat Scratch Fever" (same chords but different timing).

  • I can blow both the guys off the stage!! Try me!!