Inverted doubles on bass drum at 200 bpm.

[bleedfinger]

Do you use Heel-toe or some other technique or just plain Heel up?

[Axelrckr]

You lost a little bip velcity at the 16 second,

but was good,

keep on working

[ThaDeeStylee]

many of the great extreme metal drummers imply quarter note so greatly within double bass work (32nd notes especially) that you get used to listening for tiny details within rolling double bass patterns.

the fact that literally all i do online anymore is watch drummers on youtube helps i guess... since its gotten me really used to listening to acoustic drumming on camera mics n shit.

[Laurenan69]

so basicly it just makes a difference to the drummer himself... or if the kit isnt miced (which is seldom the case) and other drummers are present....

[Progamer107]

Hey FGTs,

Learn to spell Rhythm!

[alright28]

awesome job mate! i'm learning inverted doubles myself now (or trying to:). since this was recorder 3 years ago, i am sure that, if not faster, you are way more solid now.. 3 year is a great deal of time for advancing in technique! i have uploaded a solo of mine, i would appriciate if you could check it out and drop a line when you have the time.. cheers!

[Immortalicide00]

i dont understand why its called "Inverted Doubles"? is it not like normal doubles? explain please

[Eliminator]

Right Left Left Right...

[Immortalicide00]

Thanx.

[Laurenan69]

whats the musical reason for inverting them ?

[Immortalicide00]

it sounds cool. Fuck off.

[Laurenan69]

if do it precise it doesnt sound any different...

[zach7000]

in some cases it can fit in with the music better

[Laurenan69]

what do you mean ? it sounds exactly the same !

[zach7000]

its hard to explain if you dont know anything about rythems

[Laurenan69]

im studying jazz drums....

[zach7000]

then go away

[Laurenan69]

haha you just disqualified yourself !

[zach7000]

wtf are you talking about, i dont even play drums, i play ryhtem guitar.

[Laurenan69]

pfff why are you talking then anyway ... "

its hard to explain if you dont know anything about rythems

"

[zach7000]

i just said i play rythem guitar dumb fuck. jesus christ.

[Laurenan69]

its funny how you avoid to answere an simple question hahaha. whats the musical reason of doing this ?

[zach7000]

i couldnt tell you, ive never seen anyone use it, like i said im not a drummer im a rythem guitarest, i can just tell you by the way its counted that it can fit in alot of patterns

[ThaDeeStylee]

No. The accent is different.

This is an advanced technique... thus its hard and the end result is sounding cool to the trained ear. If you arent a) a drummer b) used to listening to an infathomable number of drum recordings for little details like this one within the patterns.... this will sound exactly the same to you. On a double pedal the left and right bass stroke do have a slight difference in tone, and the same is usually true of many double bass drum setups.

[Laurenan69]

Interesting !I think i have a pretty trained ear regarding drums... but ive never heard any difference ! Can you name any record i can listen to where this different accent is actually hearable ?

[ThaDeeStylee]

well as far as obvious accenting, i cant say that i know of any modern records or recording situations that it has greatly affected, although i assume you could hear it on virgil's music with his band, but i have never listened to any.

with mics you usually either adjust the levels to be exactly the same sound and the slight difference is made null & void either way, so the pitch difference doesnt matter much unless your right up on the drumset... and if youre a drummer you hear every nuance.

[CephalicZyklon]

bad ass lol love the footwork!

[drummaniaco]

Eliminator : i;m talking about the spring tight and the angle of the beater,and how long the beaters should be,i;ll really thank you for the advices...and again,you re so good!!! cheers from mexico

[drummaniaco]

Eliminator :man you are so so so good!!! i'm from mexico and my favorite drummer is thomas lang but you have a technique almost like his,

could you explain in a video how set up and adjust a double pedal? please

[Eliminator]

Thanks, but I'm nowhere near to Thomas :) About my double pedal setting: I realy didn't make any radical changes, I keep my springs pretty loose, the Powershifter is set up in the middle position. Take care!

[drummaniaco]

thanks for answer,where do you live? usa? i never could find a double-pedal teacher,if is not very far i could go to have a lesson's week with you,just let me know,because I''ll need save some money to pay you and for the trip.please let me a message in my channel,I really want do it

[dannyboy000]

very nice, sounded triggerless to!

[Eliminator]

Thanks, I didn't use triggers in any of my videos (at least so far :) ).

[evolusean]

that sounded awesome

[goalieshiv]

Wow this is some hard Shit Inverted man! I tried this on snare and its already hard at such an intensive pace.

[holomorph271]

Pretty sweet stuff!

[torturemethodsean]

keep trin'u will get it one day.ur off beat

[chloroxjello]

It's not that he's off beat, they just sound weird when you put rudiments in double bass.

[joshmosh]

fucking great work, what snare are you using?

[pearldude729]

awesome! very clean and good endurance.

[drumsgod]

omg VERY WELL I CAN DO IT BETTER

[lammyb]

show us! :D

[HamburgerTrain]

what you mean by inverted ? you mean double strokes ? (RRLL)

[Eliminator]

By inverted I mean RLLR RLLR and so on...

[MUNGSTOMPER]

thats funny there is two people on each pedal u dont fool me fayget

[virtualspectre8]

You Gotta show me how to do that man!!!! It's my ultimate double bass goal. Please dude, upload an instructional soon!

[joshDRUMM]

check out my tom moriello drum solo..hes an awesome groovy drummer...btw this is awesome double kik power and speed man

[buzkilldrum]

nice, i never really tried doing doubles on double kick, im gunna try it out, see how i do. Even though i'll probably suck

[likeluke]

goddamn, that was impressive.

i'm finally getting really consistent doubles on ONE foot, doubles on double kick seems impossible to me.

dabs, man.

[shalavalamp]

that snare !!!

[AiramS]

man u r good,wow that is true Virgil Donati style

[ChubexD]

hey..ur using slide or heel toe?

[Eliminator]

I believe it's something between slide and heel toe, but more on heel toe side :)

[jerkass411]

what kind of snare do you have an how did you tune it, it sounds awsome!

[Eliminator]

It was cheap Yamaha DP wood snare, I tuned it very, very high.

[jerkass411]

well it sounds very amazing, i was like holy shit, but ya nice playing, nice sounding kit, you seem to know what your doing and have a good talent my friend, so make a name for drumming, cuz theres alot of ppl that talk trash but can't back it ya know?

[Glittertind]

UI dont like doublestrokes... sounds ...so untight. Even tho it is.

[Zegmaarwatterz]

Die voet man...

[Spacecowboyy]

double strokes?

anyways, nice man.. i need to learn the "swivel" technique =/

[Amadeuski]

oh my god... that was awesome

[Henw]

That was tight man, but people who are at that level with double bass drumming should stop dicking around with little clips and make some short instructional videos to spread the love. It's kinda hard to tell what kind of techniques you're using but whatever it was it sounded ill! Keep it up.

[krazyXstix]

double strokes on each foot....ima start using that....but do you use tight springz or soft springz on yer pedal?

[pashha]

wow man nice job..!!

[killxswitch]

I dunno, man.  I mean, it's better than whatever I can do. To me singles just sound cleaner. Anyway, good job.

[FreZzaaa]

not perfect but very good for ur age...

[andraxcdd]

It's a double pedal not a triple. The technique he appears to be using is the "slide" technique in which your first stroke your move your foot lower on the pedalboard for the first stroke and slide it up for the 2nd. He is doing a double stroke roll with his feet.

[buckethead77]

is that a double or triple pedal?

[Eliminator]

It's double pedal.

[buckethead77]

thanks, your really good with it. I've just started using the double, it does require a lot of control!

[MaxDrum]

Very nice guys !!!

[bonham13]

You really have a thing for Virgil don't you?

[Eliminator]

You can read me like a book ;D

[bonham13]

Ah, he's great man, love his style, like something from another planet.

[Franchiseuno]

how old are you duuuude?

[Eliminator]

19 and I've been playing drums since the middle of 2001.

[elfucho]

what kind of technique are you using there?

[casaroli]

ohhh

ok....

JESUS CHRIST!

[GuitarPerry]

amazing!

[jimmyjaw]

what types of cams are you using in that video? Powershifter setting? belts or chains? etc.

[Eliminator]

Blue cam, standard powershifter setting, chains :)

[FanaticDrummer]

Freakin doubles!awesome-

[StickDiddler]

I know how you do that. It's a combination of technique, bounce, and STRENGTH. You have to build up your muscles!! You can't expect to play like that if you're weak like a child!

[pisoscure06]

god! how do you do that! sweetness

[elfucho]

for how many years you've been playing man?

[Eliminator]

'bout 5 years now.

[shadowlorde]

cool i've been trying that and can only get around 130-140 and even then i'm kinda sloppy and straining. can u make a vid showing how you do it? and if you have time chek out my drum lessons

[rms500watt]

how?!?!

haha SO damn clean

[RCRhythm]

Impressive.

[ElizarTringov]

Great job man!

[Eliminator]

Exactly :)

[83out]

me 2,.. if i play with shoes its like playing with huge thick bulky gloves on your hands,.. wouldnt feel very comfortable would it

[cavies]

are those black sox or Mr. Deeds' foot fever

[Eliminator]

Socks:) I feel much more comfortable playing without shoes.

[shaolinblade]

Crisp man sounds tight as F***

[elmocoso]

Sweet!

[andydadrummer03]

Cool man these doubles sound really clear and even,

Andy