Supercharged VFR Test-run

[hondarider164]

Makes me want to put the kit in my 98VFR.

[PepperWhite62]

Waiting to hear from a Chinese guy today. If he's going to buy my wife's kidney I am so down for getting one of these right away.

[stunnasam21]

do you know if there is a supercharger for the 02-09 models?

[AandAperformance]

@stunnasam21 Check my other videos and website -- a a p e r f . c o m

[bricelee361]

@stunnasam21 Yes. Because my friend is just about done with his on his 02. 

[123serioussam]

wow 700bh incredible, ok thanks a lot! but im guessing that a turbo is cheaper than a supercharger?

[AandAperformance]

@123serioussam The turbo itself is cheaper in most cases, but there is a ton of welding fab work required with a turbo system. Supercharged engines are generally much easier to tune. Either way, costs can add up rather quickly unless you do all the work yourself (but you have to be prepared to put in the hours to do it right...).

[123serioussam]

can i ask you what makes a bike quicker a turbo or supercharger?

[AandAperformance]

@123serioussam Either one can make more power than you can possibly use on the street (I sell Rotrex superchargers that can support 700+hp). Boost for boost a turbo will make more power, but a supercharger has a more controllable powerband.

[Swisscheez92]

my god, this looks like NJ

[AandAperformance]

@Swisscheez92 Close, PA. About 15 minutes from the Delaware River.

[Swisscheez92]

@AandAperformance bucks county! nice bike dude.

[AandAperformance]

@Swisscheez92 Thanks man. Yeah, bucks county has some really nice roads to ride.

[Hotshoe]

It sounds great! races up to redline and was still at 177 degrees

[bruvvamoff]

Does fitting a turbo affect smoothness lower down the rev range? I think turbo-lag is the term. Plus how would a turbo react with vtec?

[AandAperformance]

@bruvvamoff This is not a turbo, it is a supercharger. Since it is driven off the crank, there is no lag like a turbo experiences, just instant power (with whatever boost is available at the time). I'm two weeks away from finishing the 6th-gen prototype bike, so I'll know better then how it will react, but I don't forsee any major tuning/performance issues regarding the VTEC.

[produKtNZ]

And also, it is technically, quite difficult to supercharger an engine isn't it? Especially in regards to tuning and a/f ratio's.

So how did you accomplish this?

[AandAperformance]

@produKtNZ The hardest parts of a build are the mechanicals & the engineering behind them. Tuning is relatively easy once your fuel system is set up. On the bikes, I datalog the A/F to build the fuel maps, and do final tweaks on the dyno. Tuning for a supercharger is no different than tuning an N/A setup as the boost is determined by TP and RPM.

[monkeyboy441]

This is madness :D, cant wait for your 6th gen kit

[inkmonster0u812]

sweet ....

[inkmonster0u812]

sweet ....

[GavinS1965]

Does the front wheel ever touch the ground?Is tbhis a front tyre money saving project?

[AandAperformance]

Ha, yeah, when you want it to. I just went back to stock gearing as my -1/+2 setup was yanking the front end in 5th.

[produKtNZ]

@GavinS1965 lol, what a win comment : D

[Fenton112]

@GavinS1965 its a uni-cycle with a ski on the front for when its not constantly ripping

[ChrisCarter1983]

Where can I get one of those for a 1990 RC36 FL VFR750?

[AandAperformance]

We do not have a kit for the older VFRs, unfortunately. It's possible, but we haven't received enough interest from the 3rd & 4th gen crowd to undergo full system development.

[ChrisCarter1983]

Awk right, fair enough. Pity that, I am well impressed with your machine!

[PauleSchaule]

where is your windshild? ^^

[AandAperformance]

This video was taken a day or two after the bike was running -- I didn't even have a chance to put the bodywork back on.

[adrenalineboyzryan]

That is awesome! I absolutely love it! You will surprise alot of newer sportbikes with that! LOL

[Nailer45]

Did you ever get the kit ready to sale to the public yet?

I remember you talking about it on VFRD

[AandAperformance]

The first kits are shipping tomorrow, so keep your eyes peeled for ride reports in the next few weeks.

[DeeSwizzle]

Toro,

This is a totally BAD AZZ kit. Supremely Outrageous!

D (aka "Derek Ashley" on VFRworld)

[DaZiomas]

Thats just mad!

[oyama1971]

Congrats on the kit. I know it took some time to get it done and some people gave you grief but what you came up with looks very professional. Congrats again!

[jaysmith850]

can you say sleeper?

[Speedy00]

Love the V4-sound.

Too bad there's no Supersport bike nowadays with a V4.. I only know the RVF400 and 750.

But the 400 is not even powerfull and the 750 is really expensive and rare.

Would love Honda to build a VFR 1000 with a V4 and a bit more sportingcharacter.

I like the VFR but it's just.. Not build for racetrack..

[lostbeyondme]

If I recall, Aprilia offers a very neat 1000CC V4. RSV1000 (60 degree v-twin) I believe also, that all of ducati's supersport bikes are what they call an "L-twin" which is another word for v-twin, imho.

[KnownAsGrey]

90 degree twins put down more torque then their "lesser" angled counterparts, you get more useable power on the crankshaft

and yes essentially an L twin is the same, provided the front cylinder is parallel to the ground

[eg9CT]

Sweet!! :D

[001nico100]

hey dude this is sick m8 any updates for us fook watching?

[AandAperformance]

All I'm going to say is I might have a new video & information coming in a week or two's time...

[MetalHedd247]

It's been over a year since you first posted this video. Looking forward to seeing how its progressed :)

[OldWriter205]

A VFR Interceptor does not need a supercharger to pop wheelies. I have a 99, the best year, and wheelies in first, second and third are routine. That's why I have never been able to do a ZERO to 60 all out run. (I'm chicken) The sound of this bike (mine has a Yoshimura muffler) is astounding, and like no other.

[AandAperformance]

You are right -- the bike can get the front end up without the Rotrex, but no VFR can power wheelie in 3rd (or sometimes even 4th) gear without one.

Thanks for the compliments on the exhaust, by the way.

[brobholness]

WOW!

[audiobuttmaster]

Great.

[jerrylee76]

sounds like a hailstorm

[magicmattkelly]

Whoa!!! Damn that is sick! LOL

[Rangerscott69]

Is the kit done yet?

[AandAperformance]

It's close. Expect a dyno vid of the bike once I get it running again (within the next month).

[Tumbles1982]

Sick mate, what happened to it? Also might be good to post a link to the VFRD forum thread on this?

[AandAperformance]

I redesigned key components of the kit to make it stronger, more adaptable, and easier to produce.

There is a link to the thread in the video description.

[mikenco]

You crazy bastard! =) excellent job! Have you got the screen off for this shot? Did you have to work to get the front up? (apart from the technical upgrades) My '99 don't like wheeliing at all! Thank F*** =)

[AandAperformance]

The whole front fairing was off when I shot this as it was only a test run.

No work at all was involved in bringing the front end up -- that was a pure power wheelie with me trying to hold the front end down.  It will come up w/o any clutch antics in the first 3 gears with ease -- just crack it and hold on!

[mikenco]

Is YT messing about?.. my comment dissapeared. But you replied none-the-less.

It pops the front end that easily?.. scary. But sound like fun to try! I look forward to reading about your purchasable stock!

:)

[mariomendoza]

I love the viffer. I can only imagine that a s-charged one would rock!

[r4ttie]

legend sir.

saw your thread. amazing.

beautiful curves as well on the dyno..

*salutes*

[imthedisturbedone]

how do i get a kit for mine

[AandAperformance]

I'm currently finalizing the production-spec version of the kit and should have it completed soon.

Watch vfrdiscussion & aaperformanceinc dot com for updates and info regarding purchasing.

[oyama1971]

I wonder when is the 6th generation kit will be available... :-)

[AandAperformance]

Soon.  Once I get the 5th-gen wrapped up (about 1-1/2 months), I'm going to start work on the 6th-gen.

I think you know where to find updates... ;)

[HarlequinJitsu]

Excellent job. Been following the thread & you've gotta have some serious tenacity for it all. Masses of respect here.

There's a link up from bikersoracle dot com / vfr so have a dose of ku from blighty. (' *,)

[sidefx996]

WOW very impressive job, congrats. That 3rd gear pull is killer when the wheel comes up! Was reading through some of your post on the vfrd. How much harder/easier do you think this would be on a superhawk?

[AandAperformance]

It's hard to say for sure how much easier/harder it would be without seeing the bike in person, but I imagine packaging would be easier due to the narrow V-twin and the more open nature of the Superhawk. However, the clutch case would need to be precisely machined and the carb setup would have to handle boost & extra fuel.

[XeoKai]

I was considering either (A) Buying a Supercharger for my '96 GSX-R 750 or (B) fabricating one myself. Which do you this is easier (Or possible for that matter, seeing as how I don't know if they're made)?

[AandAperformance]

Well, take a look at my buildup thread (link in video description). If you have the capability to do that kind of work and the time needed to do it, then go for it -- just be prepared to put in a tremendous amount of work, research, and tuning.

There are many factors invloved that you don't realize at first, so if someone has already designed & debugged a kit for your bike, you can save serious time and money by going with something proven.

[Thomson8]

I'll give you a hot tip mate, inline motors respond well to turbo chargers while v configurations take a supercharger better. Easier to mount and the result is usually better. Also you'd probably do better just trading it in for another 250cc's as you'll have A LOT more torque than your 750, seems a bit dramatic but the difference is vast.

[AandAperformance]

First, this bike is a V4 and is supercharged. A turbo would be a hassle to fit.

I don't know about A LOT more torque - most modern literbikes are in the 65-75lb-ft range, and mine put down 65lb-ft from 8000 on up. This is also with the stock header, low boost, and no intercooler.

Also, trading this bike in for a 1000 would mean 1) I'd have just another literbike, 2) I'd have to spend far more for a new bike compared to supercharging it, and 3) no one makes an affordable 1000cc V4 to purchase.

[Thomson8]

Oh no, i wasn't giving you advice. I reckon you've done an extrodinary job and would definately buy a kit.

My comment was to the bloke with the 750 who wanted to supercharge it. It'll make what i said make sense now lol.

[AandAperformance]

Ok, I've got you now.

In that light, yes, that is indeed good advice.

[kalikaputra]

Shit how you get to control a bike like that,thats just wild the wheelie thingy. Thats why I settled for a 600 even though I would like a litre bike.What tips you have for a bloke that has been riding for awhile (mainly 600),to get good enough to ride a bike that does that wild shit i.e wheelies at the first 3 gear changes?

[AandAperformance]

Throttle control is key. I've been riding since I was 8, so I have years of experience, but once you gain a feel for the power, the wheelies are as easy to control as going in a straight line. It's just a matter of knowing how high the front gets with a certain amount of throttle.

This thing (or any literbike) will power-wheelie in the first 3 gears, and while it's controllable, you still have to respect it -- that's the key. This bike certainly has surprised me on more than one occasion.

[thesal308]

woaah, what a sensational piece of machinery that is...i love 5th gen. VFRs...well done

[rafffe]

Oh so Sweet...!

[noway224]

Very VERY nice!!

[Nelso90]

That is the sweetest buildup I've ever seen!! I thought the gauges were well integrated (they are) but the whole thing is so, professional! It's all custom machined, and you thought of everything!

I also work in AutoCAD, and I designed a Supercharger Scavenged 2-stroke engine, and I gotta say, that intake is a real piece of work, the radiused edges are really cool!

[AandAperformance]

Thanks for the compliments. Yes, it was indeed a lot of work, but it turned out quite well. The bike behaves like stock around town, but as soon as you want power, watch out! Plus, the fairings fit right over top the whole assembly, so a nice stealth factor is definitely present.

[Nelso90]

I've got a CM400 I'm riding now, and I'm redoing a VF700S, I have always loved the V4 hondas.

But seriously, I'd kill myself on that thing! That's got some serious top end! And a great job integrating all the gauges on it too!

[bub166]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee do it again! do it again!

[kanipaa]

Great work but still.. it's honda..

[AandAperformance]

thanks...and your point would be??

[Rangerscott69]

He's a silly gixxer lover. LOL  Been keeping up with your write-up. I thought me buying a PCIII for my VFR was gonna be the greatest. You blew that out of my hand when you flew by me on this thing. LOL

[terminatorbob]

Sweet mother of god!

[inderocker]

aye ca rumba!

[fotomotovfr]

schweeet sassie-malassie!