NO TO THE LABOUR PARTY THEY R THE SAME AS THE TORIES AND THE LIB DEMS U WANT REAL CHANGE VOTE TUSC TRADE UNION SOCIALIST COALITION NO CUTS AT ALL TAKE ALL THE POWER AWAY FROM THE BANKS AND PUT IT TO THE PEOPLE COME ONE PEOPLE LETS HAVE A CHANGE OF POWER ITS UPTO U FROM A 16 YEAR OLD SOCIALIST
Thirty years ago I listened to the Beat singing 'Stand Down Margaret'. And here we are again--same sh*t, different politician. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Capt Ska say it best: 'We're all being taken for a ride'! In the UK, in the USA, all across the world. Enough is enough!
@AtlasRezzed What`s the difference between `New` Labour and the Etonions anyway? They deserve to be left in the political wilderness for years to come too after completly turning their backs on what once was the working class (now affectionally known as `Chavs`) in their deluded thinking that we are all middle class now. This video is good and, in my view, a fair assessment of this new `cooalition` Government and the disasterous cours rthis nation has taken since 1979.
The only way out of poverty is through education. All children in this country who go to a state school have the same opportunities to gain GCSE's,Vocational qualifications, A Levels or any number of courses.The difference between those who succeed and those that do not is attitude. Attitude and ambition will drive those to succeed.All you lefties need to face upto the reality that hard work does equal success,Having said that, when someone from the ghetto does succeed will you despise them too?
@stolly2k University places are down by 9.9%. of course that will not be the true figure of British student that are missing out on university places because richer foreign students will have taken some of those vacant places.
As for A levels who is going to support that child while he is studying now that the EMA has been scrapped?
@stolly2k You remind me of a guy i worked with who was a student.
He was mocking my car and i told him that i had worked for this car unlike you(i presumed because he was a student and was driving a brand new car his parents bought it)
He assured me that he had worked for it and i couldnt argue against that because i didnt know.
However 2 weeks later he told us that he had recieved £100,000 in heritance.
@stolly2k If that were the case, then the third world peasant, who does subsistence farming, would be the most successful of all. He certainly works the hardest. Why is he not? Because other people profit from his labour. It's the same with working people here.
The FACT is that the British Government ( Norman French ) want to destroy the working class ( German Anglo Saxon ) because the bible and the stars phrophecise that the low line (common people ) will be exalted.....rise up...and the high line ( stuck up ) will be sent down ( to hell )
@thinair The N30 protests were just a bunch of greedy public servants wanting there bread buttered on both sides, mind, their unions were lying through their teeth.
University fees are ridiculously overrated. If you earn over £30,000+ then you pay back £67.50 per month, that's less than you would in the current system, the threshold you begin to pay it back is higher and £67.50 is hardly a bad investment to study at one of the world's best university systems. University is an investment, not a right. The taxpayers fund it, so people get higher jobs and pay the tax back. If we don't cut now, the cuts are worse for future generations. How selfish.
@bullitz78 You said " University is an investment, not a right," in some ways i agree with you but do you think an education is a right?
You said"The taxpayers fund it," the problem is that some people particularly the fabulously wealthy are not paying tax for example Vodafone have avoided 6 billion in tax.
I want my son to have the option to go to university,at the moment only 15% of working class people go to university,you watch that percentage fall
@portsanity If those working class kids are going to a half decent university in a useful subject, they will be earning enough to be able to afford to go whatever the situation. If it discourages people taking oversupplied and under-demanded degrees, and then that causes the 15% to fall, then I have no sympathy. Education is a right and necessity, uni is not. People are sold the dream that uni will make their lives great, it won't.
@portsanity I am working class, most of my friends are. We would all still have applied to university after the fees increase, because we all do over-demanded courses that have nowhere near enough supply, i.e science and maths etc. We have far too many with sociology degrees and psychology degrees that will never come to use it, and offers nothing new to any potential employer. I'm living in London off student loans alone, so there's no reason the working class can't do it. The problem is before
@bullitz78 Maybe we are talking about a different working class,most people i know from school(99%) did not have any option or idea that they would ever go to university ,all the people i know who have been to university have all come from more financially stable backgrounds ,
I worry that the fees will go up and ONLY those that have the safety net of a inheritance or rich family will go to university,its like that at the moment and i can only see it becoming more exclusive
@bullitz78 How can you live in London on student loans alone,that must be 15 grand a year at least? that's alot of debt to have over your head,especially if you dont have a safety net.
I still say that the super rich should pay what they owe before things that benefit the whole of our society are cut.
I think we should start a bribe fund,if we all put in a pound each we might be able to out bribe the owners of tesco
@portsanity I get £8500 altogether, £3000 is a grant, and I get a £1350 bursary from my uni for the whole year, £5500 is a loan. I budget well, I walk instead of the tube if I can. My degree has an average grad salary of £23.5k, I know of plenty schemes that do grad salaries at £28k+ and some that go £35k-£38k. It's a worthwhile investment for me. If these changes put anyone off going to uni, then uni wasn't right for you in the first place.
@bullitz78 I predict that the student fees will rise and the loan to pay the fees will start to be guaranteed on the parents property .
The remaining places that people cannot afford will be taken up by wealthy foreigners .
I am predicting that my son will be excluded which i think is wrong considering that i have been investing through my taxes in university system for the last 20 yrs.
@bullitz78 Of course it is an investment and good luck to you
The only thing i can compare it to is when i paid a 1000 pounds to get my telescopic handling machine licence with the hope that it would free me of a particularly shit job that i was financially dependant on,unfortunately i failed the course.
I was fortunate in a way because i paid cash,the instructor told me that some people take loans out to pay for it and end up leaving in tears
@bullitz78 PART 1 My gran left school when she was 14 to work and help support her family.
When she was 65+ she did a mensa test and this encouraged her to go to university where she did a degree in maths and she got a 1st after this she did a course on quantum mechanics which she died half way through.
You could say that this was a waste of money and a folly because society didn't get anything back from it------------
@portsanity But society could have benefited, death is unpredictable. And universities do favour recruiting younger students than older ones, because it's viewed as unfair that someone gets 20 years worth of use of their degree, rather than recruiting someone younger and them getting 60+ worth. And your gran was clearly academic enough to succeed, I don't think you realise how many people go to university, get drunk for 3 years, get a worthless degree or a worthless grade, or both.
@bullitz78 My gran was well and truly retired(apart from some charity work she used to do)
She did the degrees for self pleasure not because she was going to get a job in a lab,even so i do not think she was wrong for doing so,as i have said before she had paid for it with a life times worth of taxes ,had she had the opportunity 50 years before how different could her life been?
@portsanity You're implying people won't have the opportunity after this change. They will. It's gross hyperbole and exaggeration to suggests anything else.
@portsanity And the problem lies deeper than university fees. ANYONE can live PURELY off student loans. They're the best loan you're ever going to get in your life, to blame them is ignorant and does nothing to find a solution. Analogies prove nothing in a debate. Kids are born poor, don't believe they can actually do anything better. It's not a lack of opportunities, it's a lack of belief in them. For some, like myself, the circumstances they're born into is their motivation to excel.
@bullitz78You say" Kids are born poor, don't believe they can actually do anything better. It's not a lack of opportunities, it's a lack of belief in them"
Thats part true but how many failing schools do you find on the edge of slums? and how many schools that excel on the edge of slums? and it isnt just the students fault,poor does not equal thick
I am not implying that there wont be opportunity but i do think that opportunity are going to be more difficult for poor people due to expense ,
@portsanity I never said they were thick? What does having bad schools in poor areas have to do with tuition fees? The problem stems before university, i.e the schooling. Your jump from having a loan which isn't repayable until you're earning 21k+, which has very low loan repayments, and is completely wiped after 25 years - to a loan which is secured against a home, is utterly ridiculous and nonsense.
@bullitz78 I wasn't accusing you of saying that poor people were thick.
You say "What does having bad schools in poor areas have to do with tuition fees" the odds are already stacked against poor people,that's the point i was trying to make ,badly
@portsanity It's a point I was making as well? I was arguing about tuition fees, I said multiple times that problems for the poor stems deeper than tuition fees.
@portsanity Why are the odds stacked against the poor? They have, by & large the same opportunities as the well off. With education, you can lead a horse to water...
@Intravenusdimilo Poor kids do not have the same educational opportunities as rich kids.
All the best schools round here are in rich areas and all the shit schools are in poor areas and should a school in a poor area become good rich parasites buy houses(and leave it empty) in that area just so their children qualify for a place there,this of course denies someone that is genuinely deserving of that place
@portsanity Sorry, you are not realistic. If a rich parent buys a house in an areas and then leaves it empty in order to get into a school, they really aren't too bright. It would be cheaper to sent their brat to a private school.
There is too much emphasis on good schools, it's the attitude of the kids by & large that makes good results, the teaching standards are not such an issue, the unions said yesterday that there are no bad teachers in the UK
@bullitz78 You say"Your jump from having a loan which isn't repayable until you're earning 21k+, which has very low loan repayments, and is completely wiped after 25 years - to a loan which is secured against a home" which as you said is "the best loan you will ever get"that's now wait till the cost of university reaches 40k+ per student
@portsanity There are many people I went to secondary school with that haven't gone to university, the majority of schools in my area fail to meet the minimum GCSE targets, I believe I'm just as wary of the working class problem with further education.
@bullitz78 Tuition fees could easily rise to 10.000 pa and if banks start securing those loans on the parents property working class university places will drop massively .
@bullitz78 PART 2 but you could also say that she had worked for 50+ years and there for had already paid for it through her taxes.
My gran went from one shit job to another for 50+yrs even though she was obviously talented enough to do better ,if she had had the chance to to go to university when she was younger things would've been very different i am sure
Nirvana 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' for Christmas Number 1 2011. Buy it Dec 18-24th.
Everyone needs to get behind the same track this year and not split the vote like last year.
Proceeds from the Nirvana track are going to a childrens charity (RYTHMIX) - that should be Christmassy enough. Main thing is to stop the ironically named X Factor claiming the top spot AGAIN.
PFI didn't work well. £400 million was paid for 6 PFI primary schools in Devon. Devon County Council said they don't hold any paperwork whatsoever for these schools, paperwork such as the As Built Health and Safety files. Why on earth not? Who agreed a cost of £400 million for 6 schools? Totally barking!
@happyglee it's working right now, take a trip on he A1(m) towards Newcastle and we're finally seeing work to bring it up to being a motorway. M1 from N'hampton south is being widened. It just needs a contractor, no need for public sector to do much more than write a cheque.
Some PFI schemes worked well, M6 toll for instance. basically we just need to replicate Ken Clarke in the 90's.
@happyglee it's working right now, take a trip on he A1(m) towards Newcastle and we're finally seeing work to bring it up to being a motorway. M1 from N'hampton south is being widened. It just needs a contractor, no need for public sector to do much more than write a cheque.
Some PFI schemes worked well, M6 toll for instance. basically we just need to replicate Ken Clarke in hte 90's.
The fact that this is even being debated on a party issue shows how little all of you know. It doesn't matter which party you vote for. They are all inept, corrupt, self-serving, elitist individuals who will pay off their buddies before sorting this country out. None of them are free of blame and none of them support the ideals and goals of the majority of this country.
But, their divide and conquer tactic is obviously working on all of you!
@ Intravenous di Mili - I could name a few of the idiots and dubious characters in Government, but landing this site in legal trouble precludes me from doing that.
@SheilaJOliver Unemployment will rise in July & August, it always has. UK unemployment figures are far better than others in the EU. Calling the govt "mad idiots" just makes you look clueless & you can do better than that. Any sign of Labour's policy on the economy yet, i've been looking since before the election. Alistair Darling suggests they weren't in agreement so kept schtum!! Scary how the worst PM & govt in history operated.
@happyglee I think your comprehension is poor if you thing I'm advocating a larger public sector. I'm advocating the current cuts as I think the spending on public services is too high. As a stimulus for growth, I'm advocating spending on infrastructuaral improvements away from London and SE. This is to improve the infrastructure and give comparative advantage to these economies long term as well providing contractors employment in the short term.
@Intravenusdimilo So, how would you do that? Because PFI worked so well, didn't it :p? I'm not saying there is no alternative to a large public sector, but your stimulus package sounds rather like state, or at least social funding, in one form or another.
Correction, the Government CAN do more than it is doing now. We are all up whatsit creek, and nothing these planks in the Coalition are doing is going to get us out of this
@SheilaJOliver They have a balancing act between borrowing money and stimulating the economy. The best way to do this is to cut spending to the core in areas that will not create growth and spend in areas that do.
That is their strategy & economically speaking the right one.
@SheilaJOliver I agree that whilst the govt have frozen council taxes which has helped growth AND removed tax for the lowest paid, they could force councils to lower council tax by cutting the budgets further. We need to leave the working man with more money in his pocket and give the enterprise sector hope to invent.
@SheilaJOliver No doubt we need growth, the global economy has the worry of no growth. This govt can't gdo more than cut the spending that doesn't create growth & continue the spending that does.
@SheilaJOliver Hmm, unemployment hasn't become a problem, more people in work in the private sector than Lab left. Growth will not be created by employing people in meaningless public sector jobs.
3.5 million impoverished children, 4th worst child poverty rate in Europe, 3rd biggest gap between rich & poor anywhere in the world, dodgy politicians who would enlist people to hack into children's phones and pay the police to cover it up, the same politicians who pay off the media not to publicise peaceful protests and plant antagonists at larger peaceful protests, the worst riots for 30 years. Why not let Britain go bust? That may knock some sense into the Thatcherite lunatics.
@Intravenusdimilo Firstly, it's *relative and *complete. Secondly, I have sources in my own family who work in both the media and in the education sector, meaning that both work incredibly closely with the governments both past and present. My father was in the house of commons the night after the riots and he told me as I had already guessed because our country is run by complete and utter filthy cunts.
@Intravenusdimilo I bet the 'filthy little so & so's' as you put it, knew where to put their apostrophes. They definitely don't go in a plural. If you're implying that immigrants are to blame, then you aren't even a C grade GCSE student, therefore you deserve as little opportunity as possible in this life. If I have misinterpreted you comment, and you are implying that benefit thieves have been eradicated, you are wrong, the Tory's policies regarding the benefit system will not boost GB ltd.
@SoIamGothica It's embarrassing to get something like that wrong isn't it? It's not really to be honest but it's only really embarrassing when to believe you've highlighted a mistake when their isn't one. What you are suggesting is that there is something belonging to the so & so's i.e. this is the so & so's' website. Glass houses are such a dangerous place to live.
The filthy so & so's I refer to are the Labour party, I substituted your Dad's potty mouthed words for so & so's CYSWIDT. It's nothing to do with benefits, the Tories policies regarding benefits are not going to boost GB plc quickly but the aim is noble & undoubtedly the right thing to do.
Not sure what the "erm no" is about. Knowing who caused the credit crunch does not get a solution.Yes we can hang Gordon Brown by his testicles and even be rude to bankers but it doesn't get us out of the problem that we're in.
@Intravenusdimilo An example would be the rise in VAT. Or scrapping EMA. Or Surestart. The poor rely more often on public services than the rich, ergo an attack on the public sector is an attack on the poor... simples.
@happyglee Income tax threasholds, TV tax held, Council tax held help those on low pay over the cost of a 2.1% increase in VAT. EMA was a waste of money, A level students who need a bus fare could get a bloody paper round.
We need growth, economists all agree. Growth is not achieved by taxing people in order to employ people in pub sector jobs that do nowt. Growth is achieved by sepnding money in the right way, infrastructure, roads, airports etc not by "nice to have" public sector clerks.
@intravenusdimilo Hello again! I see that you reckon public spending on war will benefit the economy - if then, by your own admission Keynesian economics works, why on earth are you advocating these cuts? Surely we should be pressing for more Green Jobs, regenerating and building new council houses? Investing in the country - the opposite to what the tories are doing.
@happyglee Like Keynes idea of burying £ notes in mines, my example is just the ultimate conclusion of Keynes ideas. He wasn't being serious neither was I. Keynes was right, in a boom you save or pay off debt. In recession you spend those reserves & maybe borrow within your means. That is of course where the problem lies. Sadly Brown managed to spend his way out of a boom & frankly ignored the Keynes theory
@SheilaJOliver Shiela, that is a nonsense conclusion. Capping benefits at £500 will not cause an issue, it assumes that no acomodation is available below £500 which is quite wrong. If a family is told it will "only" receive a handout of £35k a year, do you think it would go homeless or perhaps find a cheaper place to live?
The article and letter is simply unrealistic.
Shiela, you seem to have a myopic view of the world where Labour are always right when they are clearly hopless
@SheilaJOliver I don't agree with Iraq but as spending goes it makes a bit of sense, classic Keynesian burying pound notes. If we spend it on Libya, we're dropping Misiles and smashing aeroplanes. The missiles & planes are replaced by UK factories employing people who spend in the UK. More effective spending than a Nuclear free secretariat for Manchester city council or any non-job in pub sector
dude, i am from the DnB scene. everybody there is like: "88 people have no ears", "that drop was filthier than chuck norris", "thumbs up if you think the dislikebar looks like your penis". but here, people discuss politics!
@SheilaJOliver Yes they are, we're seeing growth and unemployment isn't too high. The policy is the only sensible way to maintain our ability to borrow. Obv borrowing can't go on at the current level which means sadly no tax cuts in the forseeable.
I've not heared a viable alternative, Ed Balls is flipping from one band-waggon to another and is contradicting himself.
As for noboody else agreeing? The BofE, 99% economists IMF, Eurobank, USA, China all seem to agree
Search for the event"Today's students are tomorrow's pensioners - STRIKE FOR OUR FUTURE "on facebook, join and invite all your friends and family. There is going to be a mass protest on the 30th of June against education cuts to support the general strike, the meeting point will be announced soon. The student opposition to these cuts in England is not dead, just resting
Search for the event"Today's students are tomorrow's pensioners - STRIKE FOR OUR FUTURE "on facebook, join and invite all your friends and family. There is going to be a mass protest on the 30th of June against education cuts to support the general strike, the meeting point will be announced soon. The student opposition to these cuts in England is not dead, just resting
disability services are NOT non essential, the nhs is NOT non essential, care for the elderly is NOT non essential, services for children are NOT non essential, the police are NOT non essential. so what exactly is a 'non essential service' according to you? cos actually all proposed cuts are non essential, so a general strike is essential. actually :P
@stabwild Some services are essential, some are nice to have but not essential. Managing priorities is the key here and 'non essential services' are one's by definition, not essential. Our local council has a bicycle promotions dept, that is not essential, it also has a Nuclear Free Local Secretariat @40k, Corporate Lead Officer, Lesbians' issues £35k....the list goes on
Search for the event"Today's students are tomorrow's pensioners - STRIKE FOR OUR FUTURE "on facebook, join and invite all your friends and family. There is going to be a mass protest on the 30th of June against education cuts to support the general strike, the meeting point will be announced soon. The student opposition to these cuts in England is not dead, just resting
@Pansy1788 Are you one of theose people who supports AV because the Tories are against it? AV is terrible. This sort of thing is not about party to party it's about the future of our democracy, and AV sets us back hundreds of years of progress in politics.
@MilitantBlackGuy1 No. I am not 'one of those people'. I just believe that, living where i do, it's obvious that not everyone's views are represented through the current method and AV would make voting a hell of a lot fairer. And how is it democracy if the rich get richer and the poor get poorer?
@Pansy1788 How is what you stated related to my argument? I'm not pro Tory at all, that doesn't mean I can't be against AV. Like I said it's not about parties it's about what's best for politics and if you looked beyond what might get David Cameron a little less votes you'd see AV is nowhere near fair or sensible.
@MilitantBlackGuy1 I dont understand why it's such a problem though. If you don't agree with it then just mark your first preference and it would be no different than just choosing one. It just seems to me that AV would give people more choice because it would help prevent all the tactical voting and if you really disagree with a party's policies then you can rank them lowest. I don't know. It hasn't gone through anyway so this whole argument is slightly void...
@Pansy1788 You're right this is void, but let me answer your question, you're right to ask because this is a big problem with AV. This country supports equal votes, equal votes are what we've fought for as a nation for hundreds of years. AV is not an equal vote, the people who vote for one person are getting less of a vote than those who vote for more. The people who vote for more than one candidate have their vote considered maybe 4 more times. Moving very much backwards in politics and time.
@MilitantBlackGuy1 I do understand your point but at the end of the day that's the person's choice. It's like people not voting - if they want to miss out and not have their say then that's there problem. However for those who want to have more choice - like me - then AV is a much better method.
@Pansy1788 Choice isn't as important as every person's vote carrying the same weight as every other person's vote. I understand your point too, of course FPTP is not perfect, it's simply a tried and tested method which is cheaper and more fair than AV. Evolution is needed in politics, but AV is a step back in too many ways to implement it. PR is better than AV, lots of AV supporters actually really wanted PR, and somehow thought they were the same thing. Most voters are stupid to be honest.
The banks have vaults full of money but won't lend to small business. Houses are for sale in spades but none is moving. Apparently you need up to a 40% deposit. How can anyone provide that on a £200,000 house? The financial institutions simply won't lend. The banks, which you praise, are a massive part of the problem still.
I am flattered that you think my NIMBY efforts could have raised the cost of the bypass by £830 million over a few short years. I am good, Mr Di Milo, but not that good.
There were hidden problems they wanted to keep hidden. They would have surfaced at some time at great expense to you. I want no thanks from you. All part of the job, Sir. Anytime.
No, the geological problems were huge - water and unstable land. I can give you details. The project would have been started under PFI, then all the problems flagged up, unable to be cancelled at that stage and you would now be paying through the nose for it. Lots of little things like 330,000 lorry movements and them not thinking where they will dump the spoil. Masses of stuff they didn't consider but should have done.
The A6 bypass -£170 million in 2001 - a few years later £1 billion, £2 million alone in how to work out how to pay for it by PFI. And, I repeat, you told me off for wasting valuable council time in asking questions, although I suspect you were just parroting what you had been told by the LibDem ghouls at Stockport Council. You should try to think for yourself.
@SheilaJOliver I understood the cost escalated when the usual Nimby's and objectors got inthe bay of progress. It's still not happened.
Don't get me wrong, councils are useless nomatter what political colour, that's why they sholdn't be trusted with much more than collecting bins and picking up rubbish.
As mentioned, I am not actually bothered by the swearing. I agree to some extent about the local authorities' stupid budgets. I have just given evidence to the Treasury Select Committee on PFI. A project at Stockport Council rose from £170 million in 2001 to about £1 billion in maybe 2007. Not one of the Executive Councillors questioned that rise. I did but was slagged off for it - LibDems - common as muck - and you told me off for wasting council time.
It dilutes your argument when you swear. I am not bothered about it, but it reflects badly on you. I fail to see how Gordon Brown caused a global problem. We don't seem to be getting back on track to me. Obsborne's budget figures don't add up unless we have massive growth. We certainly don't at the moment.
@SheilaJOliver Gordon Brown caused the difficulties in over-spending from 2002 on. He turned Keynesian economics on it's head by spending more in a boom, he literally managed to be the only Chancellor to spend his way out of a boom. Come the recession, US, France & Germany dipped into their reserves - GB had spent it all on daft public sector projects and allowed local authorities stupid budgets.
@SheilaJOliver My point to @happyglee is that Big employers did not cause the economic problems and taxing them out of the country will not help the economy. We've seen in the last decade, having emplyment dependant on the state is not sustainable.
Appols for the swearing, I was exasperated by the lack of understanding.
@intravenusdimilo to bring us into line with, say, Germany or the Netherlands? I wouldn't hike corporation tax for smaller businesses, but big business can take it. That';s how I see it. Better them than cutting public sector jobs etc. What harm would that do? Please don't harp on about how they'd all flee abroad, because 1.They say that so that they can have more concessions, but generally don't move anyway 2.Good riddance to those who caused this mess?
It is not looking good. Growth is absolutely vital for Osborne's cunning plan to succeed. It has, in fact, flatlined over the past six months. The cuts are only just starting to bite.
@SheilaJOliver We're finally getting back on track Shiela, we need to reduce the raping of businesses and Osbourne has helped with his budget. Reduce the leaching public sector and we'll get there.
Does anyone know if there's going to be a sequel to March 26th? Maybe in the Summer/Autumn? Obvioulsy there are middling size rallies, but it'd be great if we could all rally again, It wa an awesome day!
@Intravenusdimilo Well, I would cut PFI, and clamp down on tax avoidance. I'm not sure I agree with the idea of the "Robin Hood Tax" on bank transactions, which would damage liquidity, but I would certainly consider hiking corporation tax for higher businesses, and maybe higher income tax. Before you start moaning about how they'll all flee to other countries, 1.Good Riddance and 2. twitpic dot com/4ly4gd suggests t
NO TO THE LABOUR PARTY THEY R THE SAME AS THE TORIES AND THE LIB DEMS U WANT REAL CHANGE VOTE TUSC TRADE UNION SOCIALIST COALITION NO CUTS AT ALL TAKE ALL THE POWER AWAY FROM THE BANKS AND PUT IT TO THE PEOPLE COME ONE PEOPLE LETS HAVE A CHANGE OF POWER ITS UPTO U FROM A 16 YEAR OLD SOCIALIST
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otp235 1 week ago
Thirty years ago I listened to the Beat singing 'Stand Down Margaret'. And here we are again--same sh*t, different politician. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Capt Ska say it best: 'We're all being taken for a ride'! In the UK, in the USA, all across the world. Enough is enough!
Brighid45 1 month ago
I suppose you love Labour. Please, make a promotional song about Labour. Oh wait.
AtlasRezzed 1 month ago
@AtlasRezzed What`s the difference between `New` Labour and the Etonions anyway? They deserve to be left in the political wilderness for years to come too after completly turning their backs on what once was the working class (now affectionally known as `Chavs`) in their deluded thinking that we are all middle class now. This video is good and, in my view, a fair assessment of this new `cooalition` Government and the disasterous cours rthis nation has taken since 1979.
8corporal 2 weeks ago
The only way out of poverty is through education. All children in this country who go to a state school have the same opportunities to gain GCSE's,Vocational qualifications, A Levels or any number of courses.The difference between those who succeed and those that do not is attitude. Attitude and ambition will drive those to succeed.All you lefties need to face upto the reality that hard work does equal success,Having said that, when someone from the ghetto does succeed will you despise them too?
stolly2k 1 month ago
@stolly2k University places are down by 9.9%. of course that will not be the true figure of British student that are missing out on university places because richer foreign students will have taken some of those vacant places.
As for A levels who is going to support that child while he is studying now that the EMA has been scrapped?
portsanity 4 weeks ago
@stolly2k BTW i agree with"The only way out of poverty is through education."
But as for education being an equal opportunity that is nonsense.
Many poor students work full time jobs as well as doing their studys while others have houses bought for them near the universitys.
Catchment areas around decent schools raise the house prices by up to 35% percent
Typical toff
portsanity 4 weeks ago
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@stolly2k You remind me of a guy i worked with who was a student.
He was mocking my car and i told him that i had worked for this car unlike you(i presumed because he was a student and was driving a brand new car his parents bought it)
He assured me that he had worked for it and i couldnt argue against that because i didnt know.
However 2 weeks later he told us that he had recieved £100,000 in heritance.
Full of shit
portsanity 4 weeks ago
@stolly2k If that were the case, then the third world peasant, who does subsistence farming, would be the most successful of all. He certainly works the hardest. Why is he not? Because other people profit from his labour. It's the same with working people here.
blackmichael75 3 weeks ago
The FACT is that the British Government ( Norman French ) want to destroy the working class ( German Anglo Saxon ) because the bible and the stars phrophecise that the low line (common people ) will be exalted.....rise up...and the high line ( stuck up ) will be sent down ( to hell )
Thetruthwillkillyou 1 month ago
@Thetruthwillkillyou
Yeah, that must be it :')
You nutta.
ThomGordon95 1 month ago
@Thetruthwillkillyou The FACT is that you are a nutter.
blackmichael75 3 weeks ago
how can you dislike this
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swp all the way :P
Killerbabyseal 1 month ago
I agree with the racist up above, only with the statement that Lib/Lab/Con will bring the same. We need to be going further left not right.
Josh1763 1 month ago
@Josh1763 bang on mate, Libertarianism!
OriginalSin42K 1 month ago
LABOUR PARTY FTW
alaun64 2 months ago 13
@alaun64 Nah, they're all crooks. We need to do away with capitalism altogether!
nathan99118 1 month ago
So when does Obama's version of this song come out? You can cross fade him with Bush.... like you did with dirty ole Maggie.
macrocosm144 2 months ago
This should be the anthem for tomorrow's N30 protests ;)
thinair 3 months ago
@thinair The N30 protests were just a bunch of greedy public servants wanting there bread buttered on both sides, mind, their unions were lying through their teeth.
Intravenusdimilo 1 month ago
If you want a party that makes changes, don't vote for parties. Join a Trade Union!
TomaPartizani 3 months ago
Voters are mugs
Why dont you take some responsibility for your world instead of voting once every 4/5 years and then feeling like you have been deceived
It is quite obvious now that our 'alternative' party the lib dems would've sold us down the river same as the tory and labour.
Fuck ukip the racist scum party
portsanity 3 months ago
Any Govt governs by the consent of the people, I did not vote for any of them, did you? This is tyranny.
calvi36 3 months ago
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he is a cunt, cunt cunt who has sold his soul and beliefs.
calvi36 3 months ago
University fees are ridiculously overrated. If you earn over £30,000+ then you pay back £67.50 per month, that's less than you would in the current system, the threshold you begin to pay it back is higher and £67.50 is hardly a bad investment to study at one of the world's best university systems. University is an investment, not a right. The taxpayers fund it, so people get higher jobs and pay the tax back. If we don't cut now, the cuts are worse for future generations. How selfish.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78 You said " University is an investment, not a right," in some ways i agree with you but do you think an education is a right?
You said"The taxpayers fund it," the problem is that some people particularly the fabulously wealthy are not paying tax for example Vodafone have avoided 6 billion in tax.
I want my son to have the option to go to university,at the moment only 15% of working class people go to university,you watch that percentage fall
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity If those working class kids are going to a half decent university in a useful subject, they will be earning enough to be able to afford to go whatever the situation. If it discourages people taking oversupplied and under-demanded degrees, and then that causes the 15% to fall, then I have no sympathy. Education is a right and necessity, uni is not. People are sold the dream that uni will make their lives great, it won't.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@portsanity I am working class, most of my friends are. We would all still have applied to university after the fees increase, because we all do over-demanded courses that have nowhere near enough supply, i.e science and maths etc. We have far too many with sociology degrees and psychology degrees that will never come to use it, and offers nothing new to any potential employer. I'm living in London off student loans alone, so there's no reason the working class can't do it. The problem is before
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78 Maybe we are talking about a different working class,most people i know from school(99%) did not have any option or idea that they would ever go to university ,all the people i know who have been to university have all come from more financially stable backgrounds ,
I worry that the fees will go up and ONLY those that have the safety net of a inheritance or rich family will go to university,its like that at the moment and i can only see it becoming more exclusive
portsanity 3 months ago
@bullitz78 How can you live in London on student loans alone,that must be 15 grand a year at least? that's alot of debt to have over your head,especially if you dont have a safety net.
I still say that the super rich should pay what they owe before things that benefit the whole of our society are cut.
I think we should start a bribe fund,if we all put in a pound each we might be able to out bribe the owners of tesco
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity I get £8500 altogether, £3000 is a grant, and I get a £1350 bursary from my uni for the whole year, £5500 is a loan. I budget well, I walk instead of the tube if I can. My degree has an average grad salary of £23.5k, I know of plenty schemes that do grad salaries at £28k+ and some that go £35k-£38k. It's a worthwhile investment for me. If these changes put anyone off going to uni, then uni wasn't right for you in the first place.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78 I predict that the student fees will rise and the loan to pay the fees will start to be guaranteed on the parents property .
The remaining places that people cannot afford will be taken up by wealthy foreigners .
I am predicting that my son will be excluded which i think is wrong considering that i have been investing through my taxes in university system for the last 20 yrs.
I dont think poverty should be the decider
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity Bit of a sweeping statement to claim loans are going to be guaranteed on property, no?
bullitz78 3 months ago
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@bullitz78 You said"Bit of a sweeping statement to claim loans are going to be guaranteed on property, no?"
Its a guess,prices will go up and banks will want to protect their loans/investments from failing students
portsanity 3 months ago
@bullitz78 Of course it is an investment and good luck to you
The only thing i can compare it to is when i paid a 1000 pounds to get my telescopic handling machine licence with the hope that it would free me of a particularly shit job that i was financially dependant on,unfortunately i failed the course.
I was fortunate in a way because i paid cash,the instructor told me that some people take loans out to pay for it and end up leaving in tears
portsanity 3 months ago
@bullitz78 PART 1 My gran left school when she was 14 to work and help support her family.
When she was 65+ she did a mensa test and this encouraged her to go to university where she did a degree in maths and she got a 1st after this she did a course on quantum mechanics which she died half way through.
You could say that this was a waste of money and a folly because society didn't get anything back from it------------
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity But society could have benefited, death is unpredictable. And universities do favour recruiting younger students than older ones, because it's viewed as unfair that someone gets 20 years worth of use of their degree, rather than recruiting someone younger and them getting 60+ worth. And your gran was clearly academic enough to succeed, I don't think you realise how many people go to university, get drunk for 3 years, get a worthless degree or a worthless grade, or both.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78 My gran was well and truly retired(apart from some charity work she used to do)
She did the degrees for self pleasure not because she was going to get a job in a lab,even so i do not think she was wrong for doing so,as i have said before she had paid for it with a life times worth of taxes ,had she had the opportunity 50 years before how different could her life been?
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity You're implying people won't have the opportunity after this change. They will. It's gross hyperbole and exaggeration to suggests anything else.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78 Despite 57% of the British population being working class only 30% of university places are taken by working class people.
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity And the problem lies deeper than university fees. ANYONE can live PURELY off student loans. They're the best loan you're ever going to get in your life, to blame them is ignorant and does nothing to find a solution. Analogies prove nothing in a debate. Kids are born poor, don't believe they can actually do anything better. It's not a lack of opportunities, it's a lack of belief in them. For some, like myself, the circumstances they're born into is their motivation to excel.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78You say" Kids are born poor, don't believe they can actually do anything better. It's not a lack of opportunities, it's a lack of belief in them"
Thats part true but how many failing schools do you find on the edge of slums? and how many schools that excel on the edge of slums? and it isnt just the students fault,poor does not equal thick
I am not implying that there wont be opportunity but i do think that opportunity are going to be more difficult for poor people due to expense ,
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity I never said they were thick? What does having bad schools in poor areas have to do with tuition fees? The problem stems before university, i.e the schooling. Your jump from having a loan which isn't repayable until you're earning 21k+, which has very low loan repayments, and is completely wiped after 25 years - to a loan which is secured against a home, is utterly ridiculous and nonsense.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78 I wasn't accusing you of saying that poor people were thick.
You say "What does having bad schools in poor areas have to do with tuition fees" the odds are already stacked against poor people,that's the point i was trying to make ,badly
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity It's a point I was making as well? I was arguing about tuition fees, I said multiple times that problems for the poor stems deeper than tuition fees.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@portsanity Why are the odds stacked against the poor? They have, by & large the same opportunities as the well off. With education, you can lead a horse to water...
Intravenusdimilo 1 month ago
@Intravenusdimilo So what you are saying is that poor kids who would like to go to college but cannot afford to are less intelligent than rich kids.
And what about rich kids at university who's daddy buys them a house so they dont have to become prostitutes to fund their studys
portsanity 1 month ago
@Intravenusdimilo Poor kids do not have the same educational opportunities as rich kids.
All the best schools round here are in rich areas and all the shit schools are in poor areas and should a school in a poor area become good rich parasites buy houses(and leave it empty) in that area just so their children qualify for a place there,this of course denies someone that is genuinely deserving of that place
portsanity 1 month ago
@portsanity Sorry, you are not realistic. If a rich parent buys a house in an areas and then leaves it empty in order to get into a school, they really aren't too bright. It would be cheaper to sent their brat to a private school.
There is too much emphasis on good schools, it's the attitude of the kids by & large that makes good results, the teaching standards are not such an issue, the unions said yesterday that there are no bad teachers in the UK
Intravenusdimilo 1 month ago
@Intravenusdimilo They have been documentaries about it.
A search of "catchment are fraud" brings up many examples,parents cannot rent the property out because that would give the game away.
You Said"It would be cheaper to sent their brat to a private school." you would've thought but obviously that isnt the case
Unions would say that.
The abolishment of the EMA probably has more effect on poorer kids
portsanity 1 month ago
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portsanity 1 month ago
@Intravenusdimilo
In that case how do they ensure that all the shit students go to the one particular school?
Why do these rich people buy houses and commit fraud in order to get their kids into particular schools if all schools are more or less the the same?
portsanity 1 month ago
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@bullitz78 You say"Your jump from having a loan which isn't repayable until you're earning 21k+, which has very low loan repayments, and is completely wiped after 25 years - to a loan which is secured against a home" which as you said is "the best loan you will ever get"that's now wait till the cost of university reaches 40k+ per student
portsanity 3 months ago
@bullitz78 As far as i know NOBODY from my secondary school went to university .
portsanity 3 months ago
@portsanity There are many people I went to secondary school with that haven't gone to university, the majority of schools in my area fail to meet the minimum GCSE targets, I believe I'm just as wary of the working class problem with further education.
bullitz78 3 months ago
@bullitz78 Tuition fees could easily rise to 10.000 pa and if banks start securing those loans on the parents property working class university places will drop massively .
portsanity 3 months ago
@bullitz78 PART 2 but you could also say that she had worked for 50+ years and there for had already paid for it through her taxes.
My gran went from one shit job to another for 50+yrs even though she was obviously talented enough to do better ,if she had had the chance to to go to university when she was younger things would've been very different i am sure
portsanity 3 months ago
Great song and video too!!!
PeterMcCabe66 3 months ago
Nirvana 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' for Christmas Number 1 2011. Buy it Dec 18-24th.
Everyone needs to get behind the same track this year and not split the vote like last year.
Proceeds from the Nirvana track are going to a childrens charity (RYTHMIX) - that should be Christmassy enough. Main thing is to stop the ironically named X Factor claiming the top spot AGAIN.
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specifyish 4 months ago
PFI didn't work well. £400 million was paid for 6 PFI primary schools in Devon. Devon County Council said they don't hold any paperwork whatsoever for these schools, paperwork such as the As Built Health and Safety files. Why on earth not? Who agreed a cost of £400 million for 6 schools? Totally barking!
SheilaJOliver 4 months ago
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@happyglee it's working right now, take a trip on he A1(m) towards Newcastle and we're finally seeing work to bring it up to being a motorway. M1 from N'hampton south is being widened. It just needs a contractor, no need for public sector to do much more than write a cheque.
Some PFI schemes worked well, M6 toll for instance. basically we just need to replicate Ken Clarke in the 90's.
Intravenusdimilo 4 months ago
@happyglee it's working right now, take a trip on he A1(m) towards Newcastle and we're finally seeing work to bring it up to being a motorway. M1 from N'hampton south is being widened. It just needs a contractor, no need for public sector to do much more than write a cheque.
Some PFI schemes worked well, M6 toll for instance. basically we just need to replicate Ken Clarke in hte 90's.
Intravenusdimilo 4 months ago
The fact that this is even being debated on a party issue shows how little all of you know. It doesn't matter which party you vote for. They are all inept, corrupt, self-serving, elitist individuals who will pay off their buddies before sorting this country out. None of them are free of blame and none of them support the ideals and goals of the majority of this country.
But, their divide and conquer tactic is obviously working on all of you!
Conranify 4 months ago
GREEN PARTY.
jenlei14 4 months ago
@ Intravenous di Mili - I could name a few of the idiots and dubious characters in Government, but landing this site in legal trouble precludes me from doing that.
SheilaJOliver 5 months ago
@intravenous di mil
Unemployment is rising. The mad idiots' mad scheme isn't working.
SheilaJOliver 5 months ago
@SheilaJOliver Unemployment will rise in July & August, it always has. UK unemployment figures are far better than others in the EU. Calling the govt "mad idiots" just makes you look clueless & you can do better than that. Any sign of Labour's policy on the economy yet, i've been looking since before the election. Alistair Darling suggests they weren't in agreement so kept schtum!! Scary how the worst PM & govt in history operated.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
@Intravenusdimilo So what you're advocating is a larger and less bureaucratic Public Sector? I'd agree with you.
happyglee 4 months ago
@happyglee I think your comprehension is poor if you thing I'm advocating a larger public sector. I'm advocating the current cuts as I think the spending on public services is too high. As a stimulus for growth, I'm advocating spending on infrastructuaral improvements away from London and SE. This is to improve the infrastructure and give comparative advantage to these economies long term as well providing contractors employment in the short term.
Intravenusdimilo 4 months ago
@Intravenusdimilo So, how would you do that? Because PFI worked so well, didn't it :p? I'm not saying there is no alternative to a large public sector, but your stimulus package sounds rather like state, or at least social funding, in one form or another.
happyglee 4 months ago
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the UK is in economic crisis becuase of the people not the goverment keep voting Lib/Lab/Con for more of the same.
if you want a party that actually cares about britian vote UKIP.
lying2ureself 5 months ago
@lying2ureself Perhaps they might teach you how to spell too
THECaptainSKA 5 months ago 20
@THECaptainSKA Perhaps UKIP could teach lying2ureself grammar as well. His post barely made sense.
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@THECaptainSKA Go on, answer him properly.
OrangUtanUK 1 month ago
@lying2ureself or if you want a racist party, vote UKIP...
jstanotherway 3 months ago
@lying2ureself or maybe dont.
KetchupKidable 3 months ago
@lying2ureself yeah I really trust any politcal party that wants to abolish the human rights act. You are more stupid than tory voters
OriginalSin42K 1 month ago
@OriginalSin42K so so true
JDSEproductions 1 month ago
Great....Also Try this film for a dig at the' Big Society' nonsense being marketed by our eminent leaders
Strange Ways, Wills and Kate wedding tribute - frankjohnsonmusic videos
Enjoy!!!
TheFrankjohnsonmusic 5 months ago
@ Intravenous di Milo
Correction, the Government CAN do more than it is doing now. We are all up whatsit creek, and nothing these planks in the Coalition are doing is going to get us out of this
SheilaJOliver 5 months ago
@SheilaJOliver They have a balancing act between borrowing money and stimulating the economy. The best way to do this is to cut spending to the core in areas that will not create growth and spend in areas that do.
That is their strategy & economically speaking the right one.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
@SheilaJOliver I agree that whilst the govt have frozen council taxes which has helped growth AND removed tax for the lowest paid, they could force councils to lower council tax by cutting the budgets further. We need to leave the working man with more money in his pocket and give the enterprise sector hope to invent.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
It all hinges on growth and there simply is none.
SheilaJOliver 5 months ago
@SheilaJOliver No doubt we need growth, the global economy has the worry of no growth. This govt can't gdo more than cut the spending that doesn't create growth & continue the spending that does.
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@intravenousdimilo
And, there is no growth and higher inflation, so all the cuts are for nothing. The mad experiment simply hasn't worked
SheilaJOliver 6 months ago
@SheilaJOliver Hmm, unemployment hasn't become a problem, more people in work in the private sector than Lab left. Growth will not be created by employing people in meaningless public sector jobs.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
3.5 million impoverished children, 4th worst child poverty rate in Europe, 3rd biggest gap between rich & poor anywhere in the world, dodgy politicians who would enlist people to hack into children's phones and pay the police to cover it up, the same politicians who pay off the media not to publicise peaceful protests and plant antagonists at larger peaceful protests, the worst riots for 30 years. Why not let Britain go bust? That may knock some sense into the Thatcherite lunatics.
SoIamGothica 6 months ago
@SoIamGothica Child poverty is reletive, the rest is a comlete lie by you.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
@Intravenusdimilo Firstly, it's *relative and *complete. Secondly, I have sources in my own family who work in both the media and in the education sector, meaning that both work incredibly closely with the governments both past and present. My father was in the house of commons the night after the riots and he told me as I had already guessed because our country is run by complete and utter filthy cunts.
SoIamGothica 5 months ago
@SoIamGothica There is no poverty in the UK that is not bought on by individuals or bad parenting.
The Filthy so& so's were kicked out last year thankfully.
What is your point re. riots? You are saying nothing except indicating how "potty mouthed" your father is.
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@Intravenusdimilo I bet the 'filthy little so & so's' as you put it, knew where to put their apostrophes. They definitely don't go in a plural. If you're implying that immigrants are to blame, then you aren't even a C grade GCSE student, therefore you deserve as little opportunity as possible in this life. If I have misinterpreted you comment, and you are implying that benefit thieves have been eradicated, you are wrong, the Tory's policies regarding the benefit system will not boost GB ltd.
SoIamGothica 5 months ago
@SoIamGothica It's embarrassing to get something like that wrong isn't it? It's not really to be honest but it's only really embarrassing when to believe you've highlighted a mistake when their isn't one. What you are suggesting is that there is something belonging to the so & so's i.e. this is the so & so's' website. Glass houses are such a dangerous place to live.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
....although my bliddy predictive txt has now used the wrong "their" in context.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
The filthy so & so's I refer to are the Labour party, I substituted your Dad's potty mouthed words for so & so's CYSWIDT. It's nothing to do with benefits, the Tories policies regarding benefits are not going to boost GB plc quickly but the aim is noble & undoubtedly the right thing to do.
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
I'm not sure where you get the idea that I'm blaming immigrants from either.
Do you want to start again and this time in English and without the chip on your shoulder?
Intravenusdimilo 5 months ago
Not sure what the "erm no" is about. Knowing who caused the credit crunch does not get a solution.Yes we can hang Gordon Brown by his testicles and even be rude to bankers but it doesn't get us out of the problem that we're in.
Intravenusdimilo 7 months ago
@Intravenusdimilo But the solution should be fair. Rather than disproportionately penalising the least well off...
happyglee 7 months ago
@happyglee How has any solutions disproportionatley hurt the least well off?
Intravenusdimilo 7 months ago
@Intravenusdimilo An example would be the rise in VAT. Or scrapping EMA. Or Surestart. The poor rely more often on public services than the rich, ergo an attack on the public sector is an attack on the poor... simples.
happyglee 4 months ago
@happyglee Income tax threasholds, TV tax held, Council tax held help those on low pay over the cost of a 2.1% increase in VAT. EMA was a waste of money, A level students who need a bus fare could get a bloody paper round.
We need growth, economists all agree. Growth is not achieved by taxing people in order to employ people in pub sector jobs that do nowt. Growth is achieved by sepnding money in the right way, infrastructure, roads, airports etc not by "nice to have" public sector clerks.
Intravenusdimilo 4 months ago
@intravenusdimilo Erm, no... who caused the Credit Crunch? Also twitpic dot com/4ly4gd may be of interest.
happyglee 7 months ago
@intravenusdimilo Hello again! I see that you reckon public spending on war will benefit the economy - if then, by your own admission Keynesian economics works, why on earth are you advocating these cuts? Surely we should be pressing for more Green Jobs, regenerating and building new council houses? Investing in the country - the opposite to what the tories are doing.
happyglee 7 months ago
@happyglee Like Keynes idea of burying £ notes in mines, my example is just the ultimate conclusion of Keynes ideas. He wasn't being serious neither was I. Keynes was right, in a boom you save or pay off debt. In recession you spend those reserves & maybe borrow within your means. That is of course where the problem lies. Sadly Brown managed to spend his way out of a boom & frankly ignored the Keynes theory
Intravenusdimilo 7 months ago
@a1mdwpr I refute that! :p
happyglee 7 months ago
If only left wingers were as good at Governing the country as they are at making great music. Sadly they are not.
a1mdwpr 7 months ago
@intravenousdimilo
guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/02/eric-pickles-david-cameron-40000-homeless
These planks you keep defending shouldn't be allowed to run a whelk stand!
SheilaJOliver 7 months ago
@SheilaJOliver Shiela, that is a nonsense conclusion. Capping benefits at £500 will not cause an issue, it assumes that no acomodation is available below £500 which is quite wrong. If a family is told it will "only" receive a handout of £35k a year, do you think it would go homeless or perhaps find a cheaper place to live?
The article and letter is simply unrealistic.
Shiela, you seem to have a myopic view of the world where Labour are always right when they are clearly hopless
Intravenusdimilo 7 months ago
Neoliberal values at the heart of government. Evil Scum.
satheist 8 months ago
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The Federal Reserve/Central Bank controls inflation/deflation, interest rates, the stock market, therefore the entire economy.
There are no 'extremist terrorists' for all we know, they control they media.
The terrorists we should be worrying about is the government with their corporatist puppeteers.
decompoze1 8 months ago
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Abstract Corporatists control:
agents and agencies: CIA, UN, IMF, FDA, Federal Reserve, military recruiters, corporatocratic churches, etc.
which in turn control:
information/media, land, money, education, transportation, oil, food, safety, shelter, water, etc.
which in turn control:
human behavior & thought.
decompoze1 8 months ago
Corporatism.
Most people, it seems, are oblivious to how much power corporations have.
It's not Bush/Obama/Reagan/Clinton. Although they do/did play a significant role.
Bush & Clinton vacation together for goodness sakes!
Democrats vs. Republicans is an illusion.
Abstract Corporatists control everything & use it to their advantage to keep people oppressed.
Monopolistic corporations are in control of the economy and therefore of the social & psychological structure of the nation.
decompoze1 8 months ago
@decompoze1 that's not corporatism mate. Think more Germany before they did the nasty stuff, krups, vw, braun etc
Intravenusdimilo 8 months ago
@Intravenous
How have we funded Libya then? £280 million. How can we afford that?
I believe the growth is negligible but strong growth is needed.
SheilaJOliver 8 months ago
@SheilaJOliver I don't agree with Iraq but as spending goes it makes a bit of sense, classic Keynesian burying pound notes. If we spend it on Libya, we're dropping Misiles and smashing aeroplanes. The missiles & planes are replaced by UK factories employing people who spend in the UK. More effective spending than a Nuclear free secretariat for Manchester city council or any non-job in pub sector
Intravenusdimilo 8 months ago
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Anticutspublicity 8 months ago
dude, i am from the DnB scene. everybody there is like: "88 people have no ears", "that drop was filthier than chuck norris", "thumbs up if you think the dislikebar looks like your penis". but here, people discuss politics!
YRUIM 8 months ago 13
@intravenousdimilo
Do you still think the Coalition's economic plans are working? No-one else does.
SheilaJOliver 8 months ago
@SheilaJOliver Yes they are, we're seeing growth and unemployment isn't too high. The policy is the only sensible way to maintain our ability to borrow. Obv borrowing can't go on at the current level which means sadly no tax cuts in the forseeable.
I've not heared a viable alternative, Ed Balls is flipping from one band-waggon to another and is contradicting himself.
As for noboody else agreeing? The BofE, 99% economists IMF, Eurobank, USA, China all seem to agree
Intravenusdimilo 8 months ago
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stabwild 9 months ago 4
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stabwild 9 months ago 6
disability services are NOT non essential, the nhs is NOT non essential, care for the elderly is NOT non essential, services for children are NOT non essential, the police are NOT non essential. so what exactly is a 'non essential service' according to you? cos actually all proposed cuts are non essential, so a general strike is essential. actually :P
stabwild 9 months ago 24
@stabwild Some services are essential, some are nice to have but not essential. Managing priorities is the key here and 'non essential services' are one's by definition, not essential. Our local council has a bicycle promotions dept, that is not essential, it also has a Nuclear Free Local Secretariat @40k, Corporate Lead Officer, Lesbians' issues £35k....the list goes on
Intravenusdimilo 9 months ago
@stabwild I think you are being naive to say the whole of the NHS in it's current form performs essential services.
Intravenusdimilo 9 months ago
spfanluke - what is it you are trying to achieve?
We have cuts to non-essential services, surely that is fair enough. Education continues to be funded, I'm not sure twhat this 'strike' is about.
Intravenusdimilo 9 months ago
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spfanluke 9 months ago 8
Trafalgar Square Occupation 28th May
Deansmellsbad 9 months ago
Its pathetic we have top try so hard to stop the lies and wrongful doings of one man; its a sign somethings wrong
AdamDuffield 9 months ago
Fantastic song,shame it's so true.
mistaben2k 9 months ago
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SkaBandBarneyFyfe 9 months ago
awesome video. its perfect.
can't believe AV didn't go through though. damn shame
Pansy1788 9 months ago
@Pansy1788 Are you one of theose people who supports AV because the Tories are against it? AV is terrible. This sort of thing is not about party to party it's about the future of our democracy, and AV sets us back hundreds of years of progress in politics.
MilitantBlackGuy1 9 months ago
@MilitantBlackGuy1 No. I am not 'one of those people'. I just believe that, living where i do, it's obvious that not everyone's views are represented through the current method and AV would make voting a hell of a lot fairer. And how is it democracy if the rich get richer and the poor get poorer?
Pansy1788 9 months ago
@Pansy1788 How is what you stated related to my argument? I'm not pro Tory at all, that doesn't mean I can't be against AV. Like I said it's not about parties it's about what's best for politics and if you looked beyond what might get David Cameron a little less votes you'd see AV is nowhere near fair or sensible.
MilitantBlackGuy1 9 months ago
@MilitantBlackGuy1 I dont understand why it's such a problem though. If you don't agree with it then just mark your first preference and it would be no different than just choosing one. It just seems to me that AV would give people more choice because it would help prevent all the tactical voting and if you really disagree with a party's policies then you can rank them lowest. I don't know. It hasn't gone through anyway so this whole argument is slightly void...
Pansy1788 9 months ago
@Pansy1788 You're right this is void, but let me answer your question, you're right to ask because this is a big problem with AV. This country supports equal votes, equal votes are what we've fought for as a nation for hundreds of years. AV is not an equal vote, the people who vote for one person are getting less of a vote than those who vote for more. The people who vote for more than one candidate have their vote considered maybe 4 more times. Moving very much backwards in politics and time.
MilitantBlackGuy1 9 months ago
@MilitantBlackGuy1 I do understand your point but at the end of the day that's the person's choice. It's like people not voting - if they want to miss out and not have their say then that's there problem. However for those who want to have more choice - like me - then AV is a much better method.
Pansy1788 9 months ago
@Pansy1788 Choice isn't as important as every person's vote carrying the same weight as every other person's vote. I understand your point too, of course FPTP is not perfect, it's simply a tried and tested method which is cheaper and more fair than AV. Evolution is needed in politics, but AV is a step back in too many ways to implement it. PR is better than AV, lots of AV supporters actually really wanted PR, and somehow thought they were the same thing. Most voters are stupid to be honest.
MilitantBlackGuy1 9 months ago
@MilitantBlackGuy1 haha. i have to agree with that.
Pansy1788 9 months ago
@Pansy1788 Its a democracy because we have the choice of which dictator gets control over us. Simple.
angryboy2k9 9 months ago 2
@angryboy2k9 lol. cynical much?
Pansy1788 9 months ago
@Pansy1788 Yup. Cynical or not, its true though.
angryboy2k9 9 months ago
@Intravenousdilmilo
I might start believing in an imaginary friend given the drubbing the LibDems have suffered. Yay!
SheilaJOliver 9 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
The banks have vaults full of money but won't lend to small business. Houses are for sale in spades but none is moving. Apparently you need up to a 40% deposit. How can anyone provide that on a £200,000 house? The financial institutions simply won't lend. The banks, which you praise, are a massive part of the problem still.
SheilaJOliver 9 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
I am flattered that you think my NIMBY efforts could have raised the cost of the bypass by £830 million over a few short years. I am good, Mr Di Milo, but not that good.
There were hidden problems they wanted to keep hidden. They would have surfaced at some time at great expense to you. I want no thanks from you. All part of the job, Sir. Anytime.
Lots of love
Sheila
SheilaJOliver 10 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
No, the geological problems were huge - water and unstable land. I can give you details. The project would have been started under PFI, then all the problems flagged up, unable to be cancelled at that stage and you would now be paying through the nose for it. Lots of little things like 330,000 lorry movements and them not thinking where they will dump the spoil. Masses of stuff they didn't consider but should have done.
SheilaJOliver 10 months ago
@Intravenousdimils
The A6 bypass -£170 million in 2001 - a few years later £1 billion, £2 million alone in how to work out how to pay for it by PFI. And, I repeat, you told me off for wasting valuable council time in asking questions, although I suspect you were just parroting what you had been told by the LibDem ghouls at Stockport Council. You should try to think for yourself.
Love
Sheila
SheilaJOliver 10 months ago
@SheilaJOliver I understood the cost escalated when the usual Nimby's and objectors got inthe bay of progress. It's still not happened.
Don't get me wrong, councils are useless nomatter what political colour, that's why they sholdn't be trusted with much more than collecting bins and picking up rubbish.
Intravenusdimilo 10 months ago
That's my point, Gordon Brown gave councils that noose to hang it's tax-payers.
Which PFI scheme os costing £1bn
Intravenusdimilo 10 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
As mentioned, I am not actually bothered by the swearing. I agree to some extent about the local authorities' stupid budgets. I have just given evidence to the Treasury Select Committee on PFI. A project at Stockport Council rose from £170 million in 2001 to about £1 billion in maybe 2007. Not one of the Executive Councillors questioned that rise. I did but was slagged off for it - LibDems - common as muck - and you told me off for wasting council time.
SheilaJOliver 10 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
It dilutes your argument when you swear. I am not bothered about it, but it reflects badly on you. I fail to see how Gordon Brown caused a global problem. We don't seem to be getting back on track to me. Obsborne's budget figures don't add up unless we have massive growth. We certainly don't at the moment.
SheilaJOliver 10 months ago
@SheilaJOliver Gordon Brown caused the difficulties in over-spending from 2002 on. He turned Keynesian economics on it's head by spending more in a boom, he literally managed to be the only Chancellor to spend his way out of a boom. Come the recession, US, France & Germany dipped into their reserves - GB had spent it all on daft public sector projects and allowed local authorities stupid budgets.
Intravenusdimilo 10 months ago
@SheilaJOliver My point to @happyglee is that Big employers did not cause the economic problems and taxing them out of the country will not help the economy. We've seen in the last decade, having emplyment dependant on the state is not sustainable.
Appols for the swearing, I was exasperated by the lack of understanding.
Intravenusdimilo 10 months ago
@intravenusdimilo to bring us into line with, say, Germany or the Netherlands? I wouldn't hike corporation tax for smaller businesses, but big business can take it. That';s how I see it. Better them than cutting public sector jobs etc. What harm would that do? Please don't harp on about how they'd all flee abroad, because 1.They say that so that they can have more concessions, but generally don't move anyway 2.Good riddance to those who caused this mess?
happyglee 10 months ago
@happyglee Fucking Gordon Brown caused the mess, not big employers.
Of cause they would move, if it cost a fortune to operate (38% rise on employers NI) of course they will go elsewhere
Intravenusdimilo 10 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
It is not looking good. Growth is absolutely vital for Osborne's cunning plan to succeed. It has, in fact, flatlined over the past six months. The cuts are only just starting to bite.
SheilaJOliver 10 months ago
@SheilaJOliver We're finally getting back on track Shiela, we need to reduce the raping of businesses and Osbourne has helped with his budget. Reduce the leaching public sector and we'll get there.
Intravenusdimilo 10 months ago
@Intravenousdimilo
Latest figures - the economy is flatlining. Not good, is it?
SheilaJOliver 10 months ago 2
@SheilaJOliver I thought they showed growth. Considering the left predicted a double dip, I'd say that's pretty acceptable.
You realise there isn't much that can be done apart from cut waste and redirect it to the real economy
Intravenusdimilo 10 months ago
Does anyone know if there's going to be a sequel to March 26th? Maybe in the Summer/Autumn? Obvioulsy there are middling size rallies, but it'd be great if we could all rally again, It wa an awesome day!
happyglee 10 months ago
@Intravenusdimilo Well, I would cut PFI, and clamp down on tax avoidance. I'm not sure I agree with the idea of the "Robin Hood Tax" on bank transactions, which would damage liquidity, but I would certainly consider hiking corporation tax for higher businesses, and maybe higher income tax. Before you start moaning about how they'll all flee to other countries, 1.Good Riddance and 2. twitpic dot com/4ly4gd suggests t