The Davos Debates 2009 - Environment - Your Answers

[tEtZ05]

i like the last clip. ^^

[SpaceAceTX]

I don't really care I just think Randy Rhoads is the KING of metal. Jackson RULES!!

Children of the future

Watching empires fall

Sadness the cup they drink from

Self destruction the toll

I had a vision I saw the world burn

And the seas turned red

The sky had fallen the final curtain

In the land of the dead

[sweetsouce]

They only reason we are able to have a debate about the economy vs. nature, is because we are in the richest economy ever seen in history. no other time in the history of the world have people been able to debate whether what they are doing to stay alive is beneficial or harmful to the environment. world environmental legislation destroys third world economies. so if you want to keep more africans and south americans in poverty, support environmentalist.

[HarryPartridge]

Didn't Doctor Who defeat Davos years back?? Why are you lot still debating this.

[trogladorianpower]

the world is for us.... and no one else..... don't you ever try to take that away from us mother fuckers..... i say fuck the world it's only going to end in disaster no matter what people do now.... we should build up our technologies to head out into space..... the stars is where our future will end....

[itsjusme87]

ye then what eventually our race will come to an end.. PPL JUST DEAL WITH EXTINCTION.

[hypnotstcollector]

every single person below me is an idiot. this video is a carefully constructed propaganda piece. The people speaking are as real as cardboard. there is no "arguement " between the enviornment and the economy or 2009. humans do less damage to the earth in 100 years than than a good volcano or earthquake does in 20 seconds. this video is shit. and you are dupes if you bite on it. and the speakers are less than human. piss poor joke.

[hausenharry]

listening!!!!!!!

[bertly71]

In America we are running a 10.5 trillion dollar public debt. Our government is spending money it does not havee and devaluing our currency by printing more dollars. I think energy independence and the eventual elimination of fossil fuels is a good idea as long as it does not run up our debt in the process. It seems like any endeavor our government gets involved with is not very effective and expensive.

[CAMERICA1juan]

As a father it is sad to see what we as ADULTS are doing to this planet. Its sad to see how poorly we appreciate our resources. The majority of ADULTS do not even try to recycle or atleast make an attempt to use less oil, water, etc.... i dont want my daughter to have to pay for our ignorance and plain laziness, but at the rate we are going, it does not look good. I am not perfect, but i do my best to minimize my impact on my childs' planet. knowledge is a beautiful thing.

[tomme1981]

If the World's future depends on these a. holes who made this clip God help us.

[frognerstat]

I second that.. and furthermore hope people recognize this shit for what it is

Some may ask; why bother comment then?

- because some need help in order to see things for what they are, not what they appear to be

Imposing global carbon tax is one of the davos questions related to the environment. Companies trying to get state subsidies tied to "going green" is another. None of which is relates to this moronic video

[tomme1981]

frognerstat : Have you also noticed how all these good 'people' supporting green policies are what we would call in the UK 'upper class'. Invariably they have already made a shed load of cash and are in positions of power.

Now in a financially secure position they are giving orders to the working man as to how they should live their lives.

It is another form of oppression on the workers who do not have the same access to funds as the rich.

[frognerstat]

tomme1981: Yes. & the situation in Norway is similar. That is, the class-divisions here are not as "visible" as in the UK, but the pattern is clear if one has open eyes. The same thing is happening all over!

This stuff is so coordinated, so well planned.. fuck, "we" won't know what hit us. One day we may get fined for breating carbon without permission, and then say "I'm sorry"

[Black2007Charger]

it's ok - I think my SRT8 Challenger movies are better...

Especially my AcaiValley [dotcom] autocross paint job.

[chick5581]

Wow This video explains a lot i guess. haha Pretty cool video (= I need to work on windows movie maker and see if I could do the same thing

[Auggie56]

Point being we have been lied to in the past, we are being lied to now. 08' was the coldest year on record for the past ten years. If we take all this so called information, it can be debunked. One volcano can spew more CO, that all the auto's have since day one. Science is never called a sure thing when examining these kind of things. Because there is always another scientist with information that has another result. BTW: I'm more real that you Kool Aid drinkers.

[dbo40oz]

dude, environmentalist r not 'kool aid drinkers' thats a religious thing. u say a volcano does more damage..... yes but we cant control that and when a catastrophic event happens the world takes time to heal. and we cant control that. what we can control is clean water and air. why purposly fuck up the planet,? what its ok for the human race to go extinct after were dead? thats a pretty selfish POV.

[suntzu1985]

anthroprogenic global warming is a hoax. the sun is the true cause of global warming that and the FACT that the earth is an oblate spheroid that receives differential heating at the polar regions and the equator. these davos debates are just another scheme for the un to raise taxes upon the rich countries of the world and especially The United States of America.

[dbo40oz]

right and all the emissions that we spew out mean nothing?

why burn fossil fuels anymore?

its not needed.

why not cut our own footprint down?

i like having clean water to drink and clean air to breathe

volcanoes , hurricanes, these things are good for the planet.

and as for taxes, energy should be free, for everyone

[suntzu1985]

do you know what trees breathe? shrubs? grass? plants? PROBABLY NOT! so let me tell you a secret that scientists in REAL research have learned. plants breathe in carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen. for plants, carbon dioxide is food and the more carbon dioxide the greater amount of food available for the plants. geologists have also studied the geologic rock record and there have been numerous time in the distant past in which carbon dioxide made up 1 and even 2 percent of the atmosphere....

[dbo40oz]

listen dipshit, im in college right now taking environmental technology and energy systems engineering so u should probably get off ur high fuckin horse

[suntzu1985]

.. and yet during those periods there was an abundance of life of all varieties including animals and plants. you may have heard of one period in particular it is called the carboniferous period and that is where there is an abundance of coal that we use today to generate electricity for you to use a computer. you say that volcanoes and hurricanes are good for the planet?  they are natural events and are NOT related to anthropormorphic "global warming".

[dbo40oz]

yes and thats all well and good but the earth regenerates from its own disasters, i just dont see why u would want to spew dirty shit into the water and atmosphere when you dont have to.

its so fuckin easy to be clean and green, since i started composting, for example, i have cut my garbage build-up by 2/3 at least

[suntzu1985]

here is a dirty little secret for you but you cannot tell anyone. when you compost organic residue did you know the bacteria and other organisms breaking down that organic material releases CARBON DIOXIDE in the process. bet you did not know that did you?

[dbo40oz]

Basic chemistry yes, dirty little secret? no. if we reduce the burning of fossil fuels than out emissions output would be drastically reduced, so the increase of CO2 wouldn't matter, and it would be better to have an increase of CO2 (because trees and shrubs use it, like u said), rather than overflowing landfills,

[dbo40oz]

i consider myself a conspiracy theorist, i see the corruption in the world, but COMPOST? really? ur off ur fuckin rocker buddy. the simple fact remains, that what we do on this planet effects it, so why not make it cleaner for our children and grandchildren, u still have not answered that question

[suntzu1985]

i know physical sciences because i work in that realm along with engineering for society. compost really does release carbon dioxide and here is another FACT for you to dwell upon. did you know that ANTS and TERMITES produce more carbon dioxide in a year than mankind can ever produce?

[dbo40oz]

do ants create nuclear holocaust, slash and burn the rain forest, dump toxic waste into the water ways, no u fuckin idiot, so get ur head out of ur ass. i dont care what other animals do, i care about my impact on this planet and if u dont care about ur then fine. u could of at least answered the question instead of blathering useless facts.

so do u think that we have any impact at all? were just innocent bystanders right?

[SadShade]

You should watch "Esoteric Agenda", you will learn some hidden truths. This whole man made global warning is a hoax. But I understand, you're a die hard US citizen, so you must believe whatever it is showed down your throat by your so called leaders.

[dbo40oz]

excuse me, im fuckin canadian and i reject everything that is pumped down my throat by corrupt governemnts, corporations and religions, you should watch zeitgeist and zeitgeist: addendum to learn more about the corrupt powers that really be on this planet. ive spent over 10 years now trying to open ppls eyes to all the shit. i just dont see why we need to pollute. were going to run out of fossile fuels anyway, why dump toxic waste into water? these are simple questions,

[dbo40oz]

i started watchin esoteric agenda - very interesting, i had already learned some of this but i like how it explains the error in time that seem kind of obvious to me, i think u miss judged my on the davos debates issue

[suntzu1985]

ah yes, when confronted with FACTS that conflict with your narrow mined bias of how the world should work people like you resort to the use of profanity. well tell you what i will not stoop to your level of small mindedness with a negative intelligence quotient. go ahead and remain the self absorbed, narcissistic, vain, arrogant and hubristic individual that you have just proven to be. you have eyes but refuse to see, ears that will not listen but no brain to even comprehend simple things.

[dbo40oz]

narrow-minded? narcissitic? Take a look in the mirror bud. I pursue goals to help and protect this planet while you remain indifferent, too caught up in your own pitifull life to help anyone else

[suntzu1985]

oh quite the contrary!! liberalism is ALL ABOUT selfishness and the glorification of themselves and their own self importance. the goals that you pursue through the destruction of commerce, excessive regulation and governmental control result in the deaths of millions of people. a prime example of this is the epidemic of malaria throughout the world which can be controlled through pesticides yet the lofty goals of liberalism prevent such things. WAKE UP MAN, liberalism kills people!!

[dbo40oz]

not a liberal bro, even tho i do not like to align myself with any particular party, if i had to choose an affiliation i would say im a democratic socialist. i dont agree with the whole 'classes' thing in our society, i feel everybody should be on the same page and have the same opportunities. yes extreme liberalism kills, as does ultra-conservatism. Balance is what is needed, agreeed??

[suntzu1985]

you will NEVER find balance from the elite environmental wacko leftist liberals of the socialist communist community. hatred is in their hearts and especially anything that deals with Freedom, Liberty, Independence, Self Reliance, Property Rights, and Capitalism.

[dbo40oz]

oh i agree that we may never see balance but, you clearly know nothing about socialism, might i suggest going to 'the socialism website' to clarify skewed info you seem to be portraying. and in my opinion its the far-right attitude of 'do everything on ur own' that hurts ppl, and i am not a liberal, i am a free thinking human who looks at info objectivley, some things i am conservative about (death penalty) and some liberal (gov. assisstance) mostly i find myself looking at closed minded ppl

[suntzu1985]

actually i know a great deal about socialism and the conclusion and consensus is that it kills and murders people because it costs too much to keep everyone in line to the dictates of socialist inhuman precepts. it has murdered over 150.000,000 (that is over one hundred fifty million people worldwide) people. so called "free thinkers" is an oxymoron because they have their own built in liberal, leftist, socialist, communist, marxist, stalinist, leninist, obamunist, "progressive" bias' directed

[suntzu1985]

.. against ANTYTHING and EVERYTHNG that is remotely moral, ethical or even traditional and have a special hatred directed against ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that is Religious and in particular Christiantiy. the vast majority of "free thinking" liberals are INTOLERANT, HATEFUL and VENGEFUL people with their own close minded bigotry, idol worship of non-achievers, and disrespectful of others with different viewpoints.  socialism has murdered countless millions in the misguided effort to make utopia.

[suntzu1985]

you say that 'energy should be free' ? let me ask you something would you be willing to work for free? ask your employer if you can work for free then?

regarding taxes though, they are a drag on ALL economies and should be reduced as much as possible EVERYWHERE and that includes hidden fees, excise taxes, import taxes, export taxes, regulations and the thousands of other names that hidden taxes go by.

[dbo40oz]

the only reason its not free is because we use expensive dirty energy. and i wont delve into the whole monetary situation about how money is useless now and its only in use because we are conditioned to use it, but ye it would be easy to be free.

[suntzu1985]

did you know that the production of solar cells requires MORE energy input to create than these same solar cells can EVER produce ( ie energy output ).

sounds like dirty energy to me if it is that inefficient and ineffective, HMMMM???

[Auggie56]

Prices through the roof ! There is big money to be made for a few, like that Al Gore fellow. Trouble is, this is costing us, and the world is broke. Get real.

[Dirkislaw1]

I made a 103 average in AP Chemistry lol but debates just bore me. Sorry if I offended you.

[Dirkislaw1]

This is retarted. Who cares about any of this crap? Go watch some normal videos.

[PeelTower]

Economies are not fit for purpose. Economies should benefit the majority of the population if they were fit for purpose. If economies are only to sustain the super rich then they are perversions which should be dismantled for solutions which do best for most.

That should be the purpose of economic activity...to do best for most not for a few who have too much already. The unfettered capitalist model is a failure. Unnecessary complexity in the money markets is used as a smokescreen for con men

[satyrrr99]

The very best thing we could do for the world economy is for countries to stop accepting paper money which is based on debt like most of the money currently in use.

Debt money forces most people to be in debt all of the time because there is never enough money in existence to pay off the all of the outstanding loans.

With a gold or silver based currency, governments will be prevented from monetizing their deficits via inflation. Which will force everyone to live within their means.

[dbo40oz]

you just took the words right out of my mouth satyr, finally we are seeing some logical thought on this discussion board

[OniLODSamuraiFan]

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[Chick6517]

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[NOSSOREI]

yeah

[yardy88]

the manufacturing of concrete accounts for over 30% of al carbon emissions. Just thought i'd throw that lil gem in there.

[cullen21stcenturey]

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[beach153]

How to save the economy and the environment in 2009: The world economic forum minus the liberal fringe, the environmental beaurocracy, and bloated politicians; add common sense, citizen oversight and a healthy dose on conservative thinking and it's a whole new world!

[jacksge]

Amen!

[noshttaken]

i kno my comment had nuthing to do with the vid, sry for posting it here. just trying to get my point through.

[ewat85]

the second dude knows whats up, if we are already investing into our economies wouldn't it be prudent to focus our efforts toward two ends. Stimulate economic growth through the creation of environmental jobs/business

[counterkilla92893]

but people are too lazzzzzzyyyyy

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[ilikepoopthatsmells]

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[Reijerkolle]

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[gilligasad]

The world population needs to stop growing.. otherwise, humans are no smarter than bacteria who deplete their foodsupply in a petry dish. The Earth could support 6 billion people indefinitely, but not with our current technology arsenal. We need to reverse population growth!

[cullen21stcenturey]

If every couple had (only ) two children in their life, there would be zero populaton growth. When the parents pass away there would be two more people to replace them, and only them.

[gilligasad]

Yes, you're absolutely right. I needed to bring this up because we cannot talk about environmental awareness without also discussing world population and technology.

The problems with population control are that for countries that are not overcrowded, population growth is good for economic growth. On a more personal level, people do not like to be told how many children they can have.

[cullen21stcenturey]

people shouldn't be, but also shouldn't have to be told how many children to have. It is realy more a matter of personal responsiblity to the earth and to a person's society/environment, to not overwhelm it.

[radon1234567]

more commie bullshit! why don't you sheeple stop your governments from allowing your jobs from being outsourced to countries like china that have much lower environmental standards? why would you give even more power to the people that cause all these problems to solve these problems? don't you understand that the fascists are using your emotions to scare you into giving up your national sovereignty and personal liberty so they can build a world police state! wake up you sheeple!

[superbill2]

You can't stop the earth from destruction, just like you can't make mars habitable for human life. Anyone who believes cutting down less trees and not burning fossil fuels will save the world for humans is crazy. Those who want to try and save the world go live in a cave and eat grass then maybe others will see how great a life you live and do the same.

Taxes and money is all this movement is about. Taxing lifestock, automobiles, fuel, natural resources, and soon reproduction.

[cullen21stcenturey]

you are aware that trees make oxygen right? so, how would more trees not be a good thing?

[RedNymph234]

when the world is gone...and the planet is ravaged with pollution and zero ozone...what will happen to us? We die. Or at least those without enough money to some how save themselves will die, which is the majority of the world...so, why isn't there this dire, immediate push to save the planet? There is talk and small steps forward, but its not enough....I wish the world would wake up and work together on this issue...because in the end, well...it will be the end if we don't fight this

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[EnviroMonster]

Conservation can happen overnight.The environment is all that we have.

[cruthybabie]

this is a really good video

[oscarcohen06]

Thank you Israel for bombing the little boy with phosphorus.

I heard on the radio how he screamed to his mom: mom, mom, I'm burning. When the mother came to her children, she saw her boy on fire and her newborn babie melt.

So thank you for youre cruel and inhumane treatment of children.

I'll never buy anything from Israel anymore and I'll gladly participate in any war against the state of Israel.

Not even the nazis behaved like this!

[winged789]

1) What where you buying before?

2) Blanket statements about going to war are never wise, don't blame a whole country for a single action, it's not like they voted for it.

3) What does that have to do with this vid?

4) The nazis did LOTS of stuff like that, chemical baths, inhumane tests,making families fight amungs themselves and possibly kill eachother for food the list goes on.

[jonykastle]

omg...you got to be shittin me -_-

EPIC FAIL!

[noshttaken]

samehere.U Shuld not blame a whole country for a single action. Alot of people throughout the world hate the u.s. because of the mistakes it leaders have made. & some of those groups of pple havedeclared war on america and hav killed innocents. thats the wrong way to go about it. And going to war will get innocents killed 1 way or another. The best thing todo is to try to make sure it dsnt hapen again with diplomacy, revenge will not solve anything. You can make things change and stop peacefully

[s1nGuL4r1ty]

wake up people