BART Shooting - Riots In Oakland, Second Angle

[Focusedthought]

Yeah I agree this is pretty senseless. If you are going to make a statement Make a statement but this is NO statement. I believe it says an eye for an eye... Not a Mc Donalds Window for a life... Or a car for a life.... Not the smartest individuals, It would only take one protester and one bullet to make a real statement!!! Get a Clue.

[Gmissile]

Another TNB Chimp Out featuring random destruction.

The dead Boog was a spawner at 15,wasn't home on New Year's Eve with da baby momma,was out wit da Ho-Meez actin da fool and decided to stand up,on his own, and commence to give arresting cops a ration of shit. Then he gets smacked down,still resisting, while attendant chimps hoot and holler (It IS Oakland---Mogadishu on da Bay) and a nervous cop grabs the wrong thing off his belt.The Boog gets dead (Boo-Hoo-Snif) and the cop is fucked for life.

[codowner00]

funny shit?? you hear the crowd taunting the police even some nice black man yells fuck the police a few nice black men keep walking close to the police in a threatening way and you wonder why they shot him the whole crowd is acting like animals, this is how animals get treated

[PatriotRadioMilitia]

why do you fucks vandalize shit instead of killing cops ? fags

[angryb505]

Don't attack McDonald's, that's were you get your food!

[ogmikejackson]

nigga on that bike wuz bookin

[lester5192]

nobody cares. prisons and jails are over flowing these days with senseless violent criminals, and nobody cares about that. most of these protesters are gangstas complaining about things they are guilty of.

[aviomaster]

Nice fight people fight ,,, Against tyranny

[c0mm0ns3nc3]

To those people who like to say their stupid for attacking a Mcdonalds, Like Mcdonalds Give a crap about you. This has been going on for years. This is a riot, an outward expression of anarchy against the establishment, and that includes Mickey Ds. Were this may seem stupid to you, it didn't to the Police Chief or the Mayor. These occurrences put there offices in jeopardy. Sosome action has to be taking on their watch because they look incompetent and vulnerable to their opponents and voters.

[JustTuningIn]

Stupid people...They'll never riot like the LA riots!!! And why attack Mc Donald's? When you can have it your way and be loving it!!! LOL

[kalilani]

no matter what positive things we say regarding what justice is...these people wont get it...theyre all stupid and ignorant and poor looking for an excuse to get free load...what "no justice, no peace" guy really need is a job!!!...if i were a cop i would shoot ALL OF THEM...stupid ass ignorant pieces of shit!!!!...the government shouldnt send the mexicans out..they should send all blacks to freakin africa...BOOOYA!!!!

[Tamayo1980]

@kalilani yeah, and all the Italians back to Italy, the Germans back to Hitler and so on so forth. Hay don't forget that this country is the land of immigrants, esp for whites and blacks. So basically you are preaching the same old story, that because he is black he deserves to die. I wonder if that what you are prepared to tell god (if you even get that far) "that life that he creates is worthless and you can do better" Whens the last time you breath life into someone?

[kalilani]

@Tamayo1980 okay tamayo.....i bet you a million dollars that i would "get that far" than you will ever be.

[Rembbrandt]

You people don't see the big picture. The businesses have nothing to do with it, but the message does. It's a violent and extreme message, but how do you expect people to open their eyes, when they have been shut by the media and gov. They are tired of injustice, you think times have changed but events like these reminds us they are almost the same. You're crying over a McDonald's? You seriously are the capitalist pet. About the cars that where burned, even the reporter in the end understands.

[Tamayo1980]

@Rembbrandt DUDE its because its not there child, nor in there back yard. Can you imagine if it were a BLK cop that shot a white kid in the burbs that was threatening his (blk Cop) life. Yeah people are missing the big picture of why people are damaging material things. I think it to show that Life cannot be replace by man, but material things can.

[Haileyboo47]

there hella stupid why would they destroy businesses when they are helping/selling shit to them

[thaitanium12]

Rihjt on, hate crime there are two things in this life I hate racial discrimination and coons. As to these demonstrators why not go on holiday? Parts of Africa are nice this time of year, plenty of trees to sit under, look up some relations you have not seen for a few hundred years. Whilst there see about some social housing plenty of mud and straw with cowshit for a self build project. An added bonus of course is that you won't have to put up with whitemen all day. What you waiting for?

[MrOdaub]

Why are these niggers so stupid.

[jessicasara87]

@MrOdaub you are an ignorant asshole.

[jessicasara87]

@MrOdaub you are an ignorant asshole.

[TNNS415]

@MrOdaub im actually not stupid at all.

[Robertjcksn40]

Nothing has changed. The black community has always used protest or any excuse they can think of for being violence, even since Martin Luther King. They don't care about their communities; explain black on black crime, selling crack to kids, prostitution, and business extortion all in their communities. A state of emergency breaks out and they loot, kill, and rape. If you don't want to be "discriminated against" quit your savage nature and quit blaming people for all your fucking "problems".

[bobmoscow]

@Robertjcksn40 Well said. Only blacks can be responsible for elevating their communities and their lot in life. Until they start taking responsibility..., start raising their children, educating themselves, getting jobs, rejecting criminal lifestyles, they will never get the respect that they unfortunately feel they don't have to earn. Got to get in the game if you want the payoffs.

[Obamaequalscommunist]

@bobmoscow The president is Black you prick

[Tamayo1980]

@bobmoscow wow you sure know a lot about ALL black people. I wonder if ALL white people, Asians, etc teach and educate themselves and their kids? everything you said if a fact for all people on the planet. And of you don't know respect is earned not given or taken and without Mutual respect we can't respect each other. No race is perfect so your points are totally invalid to the fact that a MAN was killed by a MAN of the law and nothing can bring him back. What if it were your child?

[bobmoscow]

@Tamayo1980 Missing the point entirely, you assign arguments to people that they haven't made.

[snowmchristv]

@Robertjcksn40 Thank you well said!!!!!

[Tamayo1980]

@Robertjcksn40 lol, what country do you live in again? lol. All the notions you mentioned goes for all races. lol was Bernie Madoff Black? and he is the worst of them all. yes blks kill other blks, so do whites esp white kids. They kill there entire families because there parents don't approve of who there kids date. wtf. who rape and kill more people than Manson. The only savage is the brain that still has not thawed from the last ice age. wake up cause your story about ALL Blk are wrong.

[youwangstertube]

if i knew this was gonna happen i woulda went to oakland for some new shoes at footlocker

[TheJoeyD27]

The drug gangs have been running Oakland for years, and nothing was ever said. I feel sorry for the kid that got shot by the police, but it seems like an accident. The mayor is the guy who approves the hiring and training of the police, he's the one that should be held accountable. Why burn a city? Things are hard enough as it is in America without this crap. It is your own community you are destroying, not mine. Peace.

[Tamayo1980]

@TheJoeyD27 Why burn a city that they live in? Look at Northern Ireland. No BLK there but they do it to prove a point, That material things cannot replace Human lives and injustice must be met with force even if that mean destruction of the some scale. Yes its there own communities, but in the end; Government will step in with tax payers dollars and re-build in order to give private business incentives to come back. Same tax dollars are used to pay cops to kill innocent people.

[wed3k]

id love to test my pepper spray grenade. im sure the police wouldnt mind.

[BerkeleyRightsNOW]

End white oppression! Convert to Islam now!

[Tamayo1980]

@BerkeleyRightsNOW lol funny, religion is the reason why we are all like how we are today. I'll take my chances with my M2, Ar10 and my claymores.

[bobmoscow]

How come blacks never riot when they shoot each other, which they do on a daily basis. The kid at the bart station was likely shot because he was being an A-hole, not because he was black. Rioters are racists.

[TNNS415]

@bobmoscow becuz this is a matter of hate . hating a race ! meaning hating every black person becuz of their race . most of the black on black crimes are not that deep . & also the police are supposed to protect us , no hurt us . wooowww i didnt know that you can get shot for being an asshole , when did they make that a law ?

-_- the guy was harmless, he was telling them not to shoot him becuz he had a daughter . his own frends admitted he had nothing to do wit the fight in the 1st place !

[bobmoscow]

@TNNS415 For many blacks, and for you apparently, this is about race hatred. The evidence doesn't suggest that at all, according to the jury. But because one participant was black and the other white, it MUST be about race. That is an unfortunate and overindulged social weapon which continually does disservice to the black community. Not to say race issues don't exist, but when race is continually used as a rationalization for every failure, blacks perpetuate their own cultural impotence. Sad.

[Obamaequalscommunist]

@bobmoscow Its not about race its about murder. Look at the case of Lionel Tate and his life sentence and tell me you're not the one being racist. And Cultural impotence, cute! White children around the world attempt imitate black culture, black culture is very potent. Brows the boards and take a look at Fox News these days and see who is playing the race card!

[bobmoscow]

@Obamaequalscommunist Oh, so it's about murder. The jury, serving in an actual court in the justice system, where they actually review evidence, apparently disagrees with you. but thanks for your uninformed judgment just the same, glad you are not in charge.

And as to your babbling on about the president........ thanks for the reminder he is black, almost forgot. Here that everyone? The black community is fixed, they have a black president.

(whom I voted for by the way)

P.S.

You prick.

[TNNS415]

@bobmoscow the reason why the police got their in the first place is becuz his friends&some other ppl were going to fight. the black guy just happened to be there. then when the police told them to get on the ground, oscar tried to get up& explain he wasnt involved.but the cop didnt want to hear it. he kept telling the policemen that he has a daughter & not to shoot. his friends who werent really handcuffed kept telling him not to shoot& he wasnt involved. thats why i believe its an hate crime.

[yewbark]

@TNNS415 The trouble is, unless a person is sitting in the jury box, they do not have access to all the evidence and that leads to opinion based upon speculation. One could just as easily make the argument for it being an accident, and that there is no way a trained officer would be foolish enough to murder someone in front of several fellow officers and a Bart station platform full of onlookers.

The young man was no stranger to police.

Compliance 1st, explanation 2nd is always the best choice.

[TNNS415]

@yewbark ive been following this story ever since a few days after new yrs in 2009 . i did not just hear this information from someone . i read a article on it . the details came from the witnesses , 2 of his friends .

[bobmoscow]

@TNNS415 Friends are not necessarily disinterested parties. All I'm saying is that if you aren't sitting in the jury box or the courtroom, you don't have all the evidence. It's possible the jury did do the right thing to the best of their ability after hearing all the evidence. It IS possible it WAS an accident, tragic as it may be.

Bottom line, the jury has spoken, the man was convicted.

[Tamayo1980]

@yewbark Live on your knees and die on your belly in your own blood right? 5 cops on 1 guy and he was already cuffed (that's the facts) why do you need to "taser him"? if hes already under control.

[Tamayo1980]

@bobmoscow Well i don't know the "many black" that you are speaking for, but i know for me its its beyond race. Its just Plain MURDER. and the other 4 cops around him; they should all pay for not trying to administer some kinna FIRST AID. I think that some Blks they believe it racial because they know or believe that the cop is going to get a slap on the wrist because he is WHITE.

[Tamayo1980]

@TNNS415 DUDE don't argue with him man, obviously hes not even an American, soon enough he will want to migrate to our country because he don't want to wait in live to collect bread in Russia. Well he wont under stand that SOME cops will always do whatever they want and esp if your blk its your word against a COPS (BLK or White) its just a matter of time before cops start targeting more whits, Jews, Hispanics, etc.

[Tamayo1980]

@bobmoscow Hay they may be a practice in Russia ( to get killed if "you are probable an A-hole) but its should or used to be different in America. A public servant collection tax dollars needs a thick skin, professionalism and tact. that's why they are PUBLIC SERVANTS not physiologist nor executioners

[bobmoscow]

@Tamayo1980 You are a fool if you think I'm from Russia because of my last name. Your incoherent, fallacious statements herein reveal a discussion with you is pointless for anyone.

Bottom line, the jury has spoken (and THAT is a fact).

Done with U.

[alvinfromlondon]

People are so dumb, asking 'what hasdumpsters and Mc D's got to do with the MURDER?' I shall tell you the answer, when the city says fuck you the people say fuck you back!

Why do people speak so laidback regarding the murder of an unarmed, innocent young man? A mother/father has lost a son, brother/sister a brother etc. The joke is 'America' loves to tell the world 'we are going to free people from the taliban' etc. Fix up your own shit for fuck sake.

[Tamayo1980]

@alvinfromlondon DONO why your post not Number 1 commented

[alvinfromlondon]

@Tamayo1980 Thanks, it's bad in the UK too, it is great that our countries feel the need to help others in the world (sometimes for the right reasons), but in the process they neglect those that live in, work and pay taxes on home soil. We don't want to be surrounded by knife, gun crime, rape, murder etc. yet we turn on the tv and see one of our soldiers carrying a child in Iraq etc. ooooo soooo touching, help a bloody child at home for fuck sake!

[younginnice]

"thats that we shall overcome shit, we aint with that, were taking action" lmao that nucca was dead ass but it was funny as hell!!

[BugnutsRa]

@packoftwenty Im not black you idiot. Not that it matters. The people in this video are misguided and angry. Thus the lashing out. I'm not entirely justifying their actions, I'm simply trying to explain why this happened. And not because they're black, it's because they are furious with BART police for MURDERING a man!

[BugnutsRa]

These people are upset and lashing out because an innocent father was murdered by a BART officer. Yes- breaking windows at a McDonalds isn't exactly the best way to go about showing how upset you are with the system, but they're at their wits end. They don't know how else to show their pain. So quit being a bunch of racist assholes and look at how deeply effected this community is by the obvious police brutality that they deal with day in and day out.

[BugnutsRa]

By the way, Oscar Grant, the man who was shot to death in the back, LAYING FACE DOWN ON THE GROUND didn't do a god damn thing to deserve what happened to him.

[packoftwenty]

@BugnutsRa Why not just allow all the 'racist' whites to MOVE AWAY from you poor, hard done by, downtrodden blacks, and form our OWN all white countries? Then there would be no more 'racism' against you, would there...

But of course, you worthless black BABIES don't want 'whitey' to leave, do you...

[eukodol]

That'll teach Ronald McDonald to shoot a brutha!

[danny9649]

@eukodol lol

[packoftwenty]

This is what happens when blacks live in YOUR country.

White countries used to be the best places on Earth, but now we have all the 'benefits of diversity', whether we like it or not. And obviously we DON'T like it - who the hell would want to live around blacks?

[xwDup]

same reason why whites left Europe cause they couldn't live around there own people so they found united state. if you guys didn't like any other race go back to europe.

[packoftwenty]

@xwDup Duh. The whites didn't leave Europe "cause they couldn't live around there (sic) own people" - who were they living with when they got to America? Other whites - you retard!

Blacks destroy everything they touch. Can you show me any evidence to the contrary, parasite?

[xwDup]

@packoftwenty sports mostly niggers take over leaving whites on sideline lol? top 20 richest ppl under age 30 are mostly black. richest women in the world oprah, peanut butter who made it black, street lights invented from blacks etc, white ppl are the most stereo type ppl in the world, that's why shit like this happens

[theladybluone]

cops are just trigger happy waiting to kill off black folks in oakland.

[ApocalypticRedIX]

stfu

[muttonbuster]

We takin' action yo! The same idiots were probably all butt hurt that they couldn't spend their food stamps on a big greasy breakfast the next morning at the McDonalds, because it was closed for repairs.

[tcjazzbass]

how do you expect people to act.this was a murder.unacceptable murder

[aviomaster]

-- This is what smart people do ,, when police shot people for no reason ,,,,

[furball79]

ACAB. learn it live it.

[kavdenmark]

if my frind got killed like that ill fuck up somthing as well,

[knytridr343]

Fuckin idiots. Im glad they "protested" my mind has definitely been changed now. Not. it just pisses me off watching these idiots find an excuse to cause anarchy. And what did Ronald McDonald ever do to these people lol.

[thechu503]

everyone, or i would assume everyone, in oakland has a gun... why doesn't anyone shoot back?

[rjb0978]

what the fuck does breaking the windows of a dairy queen or mc donalds or burning up dumpsters and innocent peoples cars have to do with demonstrations? Stupid mother fuckers.

[Tamayo1980]

@rjb0978 Its to wake the public up, because people will just go on about there regular lifestyle always wanting only one thing; there materialist stuff.

People do it to show that life! Human Life is worth more than just the stuff that money can buy. Keep bitching about your car, windows, and McDonald and the stupid mother fuckers who are willing to stand up now demand justice and action.

[davisismail1comcast]

@rjb0978 The answer to that question is this anything that is a white corporate, or colonial symbol is a symbol of oppression, this is how it is perceived. That why these institutions are attacked. I do not blame these people for there rage, African Americans from were i stand catch more shit, then anybody I know, and Im talking about those who are considered model citizens. I want name the company I work for, but even there there is a double standard on how people of color is dealt with.

[RATHAHONNI]

@rjb0978 ,FRUSTRATION! would u rather see a coupla cops shot?

[clayman41]

@rjb0978 seriously...how does that make sense.....you're pissed...ok.....why are you gonna punish the property of the people around you...?!??!

[LORDPAIN100]

maybe if a cop shot your mom and got away with lets see if your still fucking smiling

[clayman41]

@LORDPAIN100 you obviously didn't understand my point.....and where in there did I suggest I was smiling? Hate begets hate...violence begets violence. You're obviously looking to push your anger out on other people....so I'll be your martyr

[3500princezz]

it dnt matta

wat race u r

da problem waz dat he had no reazon

to shoot oscar

nd ya fuckin racizt bitchez get a life nd ztop hatin

on da blackz kuz dey hella koo

unlike ya ignorant bitchez

wat a coincidence dat a white cop zhot a black guy

mayne fuck daz why we mad da riot

to fight for rightz nd zo copz ztop abuzing ppl

[Actwoven]

I gotta love riot logic. Instead of punishing the man that committed the crime, they bust some guy's windows and roll some guy's car. Surely the people will support these selfless, peaceful folk.

[8675tree09]

all yall need to get god and fast it dont matter if your black or white because a hater is a hater. if you wanna hate your gonna hate!!!

[iceman5815]

Become a cop and you'll know it is like to deal with blacks. Until then shut the fuck up. These people are uncivilized and criminal minded. They don't listen and tends to do whatever they want because they're black and they will always bring that "i'm black " thing even when they are wrong. Always playing the "BLACK" card. If u put a whole bunch of blacks in a place, it won't take too long before they all kill each other.

[cowboy6623]

FING NEW WORLD ORDER !!

[Ninjamonkeys18]

I'm so glad I don't live in Oakland. Or I would have had my own car burned to the ground just like the unfortunate ones that did have their cars burned and guess what? They didn't get any help from the city to help pay for damages. Isn't that wonderful? Someone gets their property destroyed and receives no help from the city because rioters cry anarchy. Its ridiculous. I'm glad the rioting has ceased.

[ukiahcat]

screw these black rights blacks are racist people that need a reality check. Cops should make blacks fear authority. Tired of these racist blacks thinking they can do whatever they want and when they get arrested they cry RACISM... my ass

[libertybound]

Apparently ignorance breeds ignorance. You all need to see the bigger picture... POLICE BRUTALITY is ridiculous, PROTESTING is our rights as American citizens. I wish it could all be done peacefully but when you see an officer strike FIRST as was blatantly obvious on that video, what is left to do? Some people won't just lay down and I can't blame them in certain circumstances.

[ukiahcat]

RACIST and you just don't see it. look in the mirror you racist

[kavdenmark]

how can a mirror tell if u are racist, u have mirror like that, can i have it

[inverteddouche]

Cause he's black let's protest against police brutality by randomly destroying vehicles and property unconnected to the police.

Do these guys ever stop and think - Hey, I've got a baby daughter now. Maybe I shouldn't be out with my friends getting into fights. Maybe I shouldn't be dealing drugs. Maybe I shouldn't be carrying guns illegally. Maybe I should be home with my daughter and family on New Year's Day!

[inverteddouche]

Had Oscar Grant been white, the riots wouldn't be half as violent (if at all) nor media reaction as dramatic. Considering his rap sheet: illegal gun possession, drug dealing, assault, couple that with the fact that he was involved in a fight before the shooting occurred - IF he were white, we'd say good riddance for another low-life scum being taken off the streets. But he's black, so let's all play the race card and let's burn down random cars and trash random stores.

[youngeststar]

of course it was based on race it was like 4 whites and the 1 black dude non of them was doing nothing when the police had them they just decided to pick the black person out the blue huhhhh. They decided to shot the black person out the blue huhhh. Wassup wit dat. It wasnt a mistake the police just act liked dat cause he no he did sumfin bad and he was gone get in major trouble thats y they want you to think it was an acident

[jeffhuypham]

violent protest isnt the way to go, your just hurting others

[ZacharyReichenbach]

I agree. If anything, find the cop that shot the guy and f up his life. Burn his vehicles/house, etc. not random ppl lol :)

[MrsSarb]

I'm a white person and even I have a hard time believing that the cop would have shot a white guy in the back the way that he did. Face it, the guy did it because he was black and he assumed Oscar was "trouble". When have any of us ever seen something like this happen to a white person? I don't think that rioting is going to solve anything but yet this time I don't blame them for being that fed up with it all.

[raider8sox]

wasnt a white guy being arrested too, with oscar grant???...

[taichicult]

>how do you know this was an attack based on race?

most protestors seems to be black based on the video I watched.....

[taichicult]

Did one sngle incident (shooting of Grant) caused this?

or

One single incident ignited something already there. (maybe Anger toward racist police?)

curious........can someone answer?

[ImTheWhiteMan]

how do you know this was an attack based on race?

[WLMadrigal]

Guy said there taking action? what by trying to protest violence with a violent riot, destroying shop owners and citizens windows. People that had nothing to do with the case. Yeah buddy thats really going to get community backing, yeah right and stop pulling the race card, black white yellow shouldnt matter. should be equal. We have the right to protest in america not riot.

[Nacho773]

That's not even their community.

[hooliganism49]

Let me just say this, im sick and tired of black people pulling the race card. I think after America elected Barrack Obama as president, which needed the majority of whites in order for him to win the presidency, it is safe to say that black people have lost the right...no wait they have lost the loopholes that allowed them to get away with just about anything when they used the race card.

[MicGeezee]

Let me get this straight! Electing 1 half black person to be the president of the united states, wipes out over 400 years of brutality and racism against an entire group of people. We on even ground now! Thank you for clearing that up for me! Don't know what I was thinking.

[hooliganism49]

First,I hope you realize that the united states has only been a country for 232 yrs!I dont know where the 400 yrs came from. Second,I hope you realize that the brutality that black people have suffered was started by black people themselves! Black enslaved there own people and sold them off to the white man.!Third, the US elected a black man for president which should end black peoples right to use the race card.I just hope Obama doesnt get killed cause then black folk will riot like morons.

[donjabroni]

The 400 years comes from when the Europeans start colonizing the country. Jamestown, Va was founded in 1607.

[shoobydoowow]

that mcdonalds, car and cop car got what they deserved

[hooliganism49]

How did Mcdonalds deserve to have there windows broken? Was Mcdonalds involved in the shooting?

[deadmansvoice]

@hooliganism49 some gang member ate a mcdonut and farted, and it stank so much that another gang member got mad at mcdonalds... loool

[kalilani]

@hooliganism49 THEY'RE ALL POOR AS HELL AND AS ALWAYS, THEY CANT AFFORD A BIG MAC, SO THIS IS WHAT THEY WILL DO...

[Tamayo1980]

@hooliganism49 That's not the point for breaking things. I can bet you if it were any other store it still would have gotten some damage. The point is that people can;t come back from being murdered, things, material things can be replaced.

[shaggy18602]

i felt sorry for the reporter who lost their car. they should kill protesters. lucky this assholes live in america and fuck whoever gives me a thumbsdown.

[Vox91]

You're just a big pussy trying to sound tough.

[Jeff000000000000000]

The cops showed up in their Kestopo gear trying to intimate the protesters. That not a logical way to show up when you part of the group that is being protested. That is just asking for a fight.

[bigbirdddd]

Could you imagine what would have happened if this was Greece? Protests against police murderer, turns into police brutality on protesters. Just a small wake up call. Did you see how quickly this protest got squashed? Do you really think you have the right to protest anymore? Only if they let you. The future is looking very dark. Where are all the good guys? Is any part of law enforcement standing up for the little people? Or are we just target practice?

[ImTheWhiteMan]

thats why zoos have walls, keep these animals caged.

[ITokez]

Fuck TheWhiteMan the only animals are the police killing innocent people

[ImTheWhiteMan]

yes not the people trashing others property, "im pissed let trash Mcdonalds."

[ImTheWhiteMan]

uh....no

[hooliganism49]

lol

[lifted98ford]

dramakiller69: Damn jungle bunnies!!!

hahahahahahaha thats great.

[dramakiller69]

Damn jungle bunnies!!!

[ggggoodgooblygoop]

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