Wing Tsun Scandinavia - Wing Tsun Helsinki - Budo Night 2002

[etphonehome2915]

Get some contact gear and fight for real. This don't prove jack although wt is effective this is more like old school aikodo demos.

[papagorgio23]

slap, slap, slap, slap, etc, etc, etc

[Chrisxulo]

they fight like girls,this is not a good wing tsun.

[CCCamikaze]

music?

[dyingxmonkey]

some are muay thai

[changlarry]

that black dude fights like my tuxedo cat!!

[Blackhawk1090]

the opponents of the wing tsun guys are bad. one attact , and the attac is grubby . that's no fantastic skill , to parry this ^^

[MrGalt]

I'm going to give up trolling Youtube for a while because there's no point, but let me pose a question for everybody:

If those punches can be thrown that rapidly, AND be hard and effective, why has not one boxer, in any weight class, in recorded history, ever used (or abused if you like) this style to become a millionaire?

Is it possible that when you don't pull them and use proper body mechanics to make the punches effective, they're no longer that fast? Maybe it's not real.

[sambryant1]

because this is wing tsun not boxin?? u cant incorporate different styles into boxin, thats mma lol.

[MrGalt]

Sure you could incorporate different "styles." In boxing you have to hit legal target areas with a forward thrust of the closed fist. That means no palms or chops or backhands, but all the chain punches I have seen in Wing Tsun would be perfectly legal. Good dodge though.

[56bloodhorn]

there are boxers training in wing tsun in europe and have become champions..but according to them it's an whole other ball game..there are rules, there are big gloves..what wing tsun has done for the boxer is learning to anticipate, counter much faster

i have seen this guy fight and he dominates every fight..again it allways comes down to the fighter and how serious he is in his art and training

[Daboogiepimp]

wing chun wont work in boxing, with the heavy boxing gloves the rapid centerline punches become alot slower and less powerful, and tbh its called boxing for a reason when you fight in a boxing math you BOX and not do another martial art like wing chun, it wont work like that wing chun needs the hands, feet and elbows

[MrGalt]

Ah. My theory was that wing chun won't work in boxing because when you use the necessary body mechanics for a real punch with weight behind it instead of a choppy little triceps-only contraction, you suddenly aren't so fast.

[jesusxtoo]

as i said before you just burn time testing ur intelligence to speak about something u dont have idea... when boxing was a sport without gloves the punches were the same ones as wing chun and the figh was totally frontal like in wing chun

[BonAquak]

Yop thouse guys are right, check some old films or photos.

without gloves you cant use hooks so those punches were streight but i dunno if they mostly im at head... ie in wt aim at throat

but the way boxer punch its completly different he takes the power from the ground and use his whole body its called kinetic linking

bud in wt thouse chain punches goes just from triceps thouse punches are mutch weaker but if he can hit you once he can hit for ever... so its quantity vs quality

[jesusxtoo]

the problem with wing chun is only 1 teached it... in conclusion most wing chun in the world SUCKS, i have the luck of having a really good teacher and lol.... wing chun punches arent weak, and the strenght comes from structure, weight, wrist, etc.....

[BackUporShutup]

Yes, you can use hooks. And no, oldschool boxing was NOT like Wing Chun.

I can guarantee that on an even half decent boxer, after two chain punches, it'll be an inside slip and overhand right that ends the fight.

[jesusxtoo]

i will enlight you Mr..... 100 years ago the boxing system WITHOUT gloves was very very similar to wing chun, with gloves is a very different think, very different objetives and very different system, but u can be sure that the best wing chun practicer will kill in 15 seconds the best boxer without gloves... and with gloves and rules u can be sure the boxer will win soon or later

[mazilin2]

i doubt that. boxers in the 20s were close to bareknuckle boxers used a lot of fencing stuff and were more evasive than boxers these days and a lot more direct than most wing chun practitioners today. Boxers are still the hardest punchers and are better at reading the opponent and react on telegraphs than any other martial artist.

[Fjedja]

true ^^

[MarcusDBrutus]

You're a raging idiot.

[jesusxtoo]

less thinking about what other poeple is and more thinking about what u are

[MarcusDBrutus]

I'm your mom's boyfriend.

[jesusxtoo]

very hard cuz shes death, maybe is ur mother the bitch ur fucking =/

[MarcusDBrutus]

No, I'm still your mom's boyfriend. I just have low standards.

: D

[jesusxtoo]

oh I C, throw him some flowers

[MarcusDBrutus]

No no no, you misunderstand. I'm still dating your mom, even though she's dead. Because dead girls are doable too. Get it?

[jesusxtoo]

i meant her... THROW HER SOME FLOWERS U SICK PUPPY x)

[thatrugbyguy]

A) I have been hit harder in the throat than those guys are hitting, and pencil necked me was fine and dandy.

B) Its called keeping your chin down and your hands up like anyone who has so much as seen a boxing match.

[AdamsSeed]

I don't understand.. why blindfold if it's all choreographed? 0.o

[22433d]

wow ns demo that was really fast!! xDD

[RammsteinFan1100]

zomg what bull shit clearly montage !

[todei79]

I love WC and have been doing for about yr and a half now but I hate these damn demos. They make the attacker out to be a punk. If someone wants to hurt you and they have that adrenalin pumping, I'm sure they can take a few hits. These attackers were getting into the fetal possition after one hit. Make a bit more realistic guys. WC #1.

[Buzhulka]

I just love WT I do it for abou a year now, a nd it's great nothing is better than Wing Tsun

[jeronnimoo]

i think wing chun has the best defense and offense because you do it at the same time,, and than you have the chain punch i think better 10 punches in 2 sec dan 1 and a half in 2 sec

[t0llef]

first dude was crazy =D

[mitchtang]

I thought it was pretty good

[lefoufou06]

c koi le titre de la chanson? svp mci

[prideXmaka]

all of the great fighting artists here,whose want to talk about good defense or offense!!!

if you are now how to fight show us to fight.

thats are only all stupid comments...

[Schwellesj]

this is weak as hell

[supralee]

show me in real fight those things but they show it in their pupils!whay`?because only in this way its look good!

[isisncasey]

Wing Chun has EXCELLENT defense techniques but the offense SUCKS !

[busnei]

the defense is the offense!!!

[fenlanren]

The video is not sped up actually. They're just damn fast.

[billionaire35]

These guys are fast. Fucking fast. Dayum

[jackwilliamsj]

The video is sped up

[ruleram]

after they punch their opponent at 100 bps

why do they start shaking their fists?

[muertehybrid]

interesting..so many different versions of wing chun...it's becoming a watered down art, just like everything else.

[shengchenfan]

I wouldn't say watered down,But its changes are made to adapt to todays situation,The principle is still the same.For instance,Would you use a 18 century rifle today on the battlefield or a M16?The Principle of what the gun does is still the same.

[muertehybrid]

no im not debating that. bruce lee even had that agenda. but im speaking from purely martial arts point of view. the creators or masters of the art originally had intentions with it. like the whole reason for wing chuns existence was to not be for show and dispel opponents with the mere basic stance. now a days they need all three just to do anything. that's watered down. lack of practical excercise

[shengchenfan]

I understand.

[LOLadrianLOL]

Yeah, you're full of shit.

[Targetius]

Those previous comments had really nothing to do with this video, so I'll say something more fitting. I know something about Wing Chun, Krav Maga, Jeet Kune Do and some "Close Quarter Combat" styles... and of course in the army we trained how to kill or maim your enemies in unarmed combat, so I think I'm at least a pretty good person to say that Wing Chun is a very effective martial art style. :)

[marcusorilius]

How many people have you personally killed or maimed with your awesome martial art skills? I can safely bet that it is the exact same as me - NONE. You sound like a person that believes in theory more than practical application, and would recommend swimming lesson on dry land. To bad when it comes time to jump into the pool you will be so much in denial that you would refuse help from a real swimmer as you drown. Get into the pool and get a little wet before you claim to know what is effective!

[Targetius]

Haha! Why on earth would I want to kill someone? :D Have I had couple of fights in my life? Sure, but they weren't that serious that I'd have to maim someone. Well aren't you a nice person. And you just seem to love arguing. Oops, arent you, a person at your mid-thirties, acting a bit immature there... Was that last comment for you? Umm... Nooope. Did I say something about using protectors when fighting like that? Umm.. Yeeeah. ;)

[marcusorilius]

"and of course in the army we trained how to kill or maim your enemies in unarmed combat"

"Why on earth would I want to kill someone?"

You really don't have a very good memory for your own comments - It is almost like you are schizophrenic. You are the one to bring maiming and killing into the comments, not me. The point was that you claimed knowledge of the killing or maiming power of your martial arts, without ever actually doing it. Theory - all talk - not much use for that.

[Targetius]

Well, that's a weird comment. First, that original comment wasn't in any way meant for you, it was not a reply. -- Does it mean that I want to kill people since I've been in the army? I don't choose what they teach there. You are making things a bit too complicated. I've had that much experience that I could have killed or maimed if I'd had to. And in theory part, I'm pretty much at least as good as anyone (who hasn't killed or maimed anyone, though) to tell what would work.

[Targetius]

One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to know what can easily kill. I've shot with an assault rifle and sniper rifle at targets not real people, but I could shoot someone if I'd have to. Some things are best to leave only in theory or just in physichal training part. I really do hope that I'll never even have to kill anyone. BTW, my memory is not the problem here. I can only try and make it as clear as I can. There's limits of course.

[marcusorilius]

Fine - you take the green expert marksman soldier with the neat uniform who has never seen combat and I will pick the experienced old coot with plenty of scars that has been there and back a few times.

Same story with martial arts - you take the 8th degree black belt in Ninja or whatever who can break boards with a chi yell and I will take the pit fighter who has tasted the blood and dirt of the ugly reality of fighting.

[Targetius]

"and of course in the army we trained how to kill or maim your enemies in unarmed combat"

"Why on earth would I want to kill someone?"

"You really don't have a very good memory for your own comments" Cough, cough.

[marcusorilius]

"Does it mean that I want to kill people since I've been in the army?"

I never said you did. I was trying to explain that for all the theory about killing and maiming that you claim to have with various martial arts and the military, it does NOT equate to practical ability. The point is that practical experience and application of MMA is more valuable than all the maiming and killing THEORY that most traditional MAs offer -- even with all those rules.

[Targetius]

Sure, maybe it is, I never said it couldn't be, but then again that post was not a reply to you. Actually I said that you should do some sort of fighting - with or without protectors, your choice there. But since we're talking about maiming and killing - people don't do that in MMA either (but that's just good). It's always in theory, and I personally like to keep it that way as long as someone doesn't go berserk and seriously try to kill me. BTW, there's not really a MA called Ninja ;)

[marcusorilius]

>>people don't do that in MMA either... ...It's always in theory<<

No, knocking someone out, choking them unconscious or applying a joint lock on them so they submit is NOT theory - it is the application of technique on fully resisting, non-complying opponents who are trying to do the same to you. And I know, it's called Ninjitsu - I was running out of room, but you got the point.

[Targetius]

Well, actually that's not maiming or killing. I believe that was the subject and at least it was what I was talking about there. In MMA nobody can actually go any further than I could go with a friend of mine. So I think we can safely say that actual maiming or killing is always just in theory.

[marcusorilius]

To remind you, the subject is you calling MMA "stupid". You could kill someone after knocking them unconscious or by continuing to choke them. You could maim someone if they did not submit. The technique is already PROVEN by that point, so the fight is over -- the NEED to maim or kill is removed. The point is simple - It is the effective APPLICATION of the technique - not the DEMONSTRATION of the technique, that is the difference between MMA and a clip like this.

[Targetius]

Yeah, that must be the case. You are such a clever person. I hoped you had learned something about this, since your way of acting isn't the best out there (like you might know, there's others who have noted the same thing), but I guess you still think that only your opinions are the right ones. Well, everyone has the right to be the moron or person they want to be.

[marcusorilius]

"Well, everyone has the right to be the moron or person they want to be"

You certainly prove that... Making comments you can't back up are the calling card of the ignorant and closed-minded.

[Targetius]

Are you sure I'm the ignorant and closed-minded? And how WOULD you like me to back up my opinions? Isn't that what you're saying there? Is there no opinions allowed in your world? But sure, everyone of us has the right to be a moron, including me.

[Targetius]

It's hard to see why you still post comments. First I just answered to your guestions... then I gave some opinions of mine, then I answered your guestions about them. Then you made hasty conclusions, and then I tried to point out that they're not so black & white but are still only opinions. But you still keep saying that I have something to back up.

[marcusorilius]

"Are you sure I'm the ignorant and closed-minded?"

I can only go on what you have shown so far.

"how WOULD you like me to back up my opinions?"

How about with some facts or intelligent statements and not using words like "stupid". Also, comparing MMA with WWE without context is pointless and misleading.

[Targetius]

Do you know what's often thought as a synonym of ignorance? It's stupidity... "How about with some facts or intelligent statements" Facts about what? -- Why would "MMA with WWE" need any real context, since it was just one of many things I listed. You literally asked me to tell why I'd say that some things make it even more stupid than e.g. boxing. And I did, you didn't hold on to anything else.

[Targetius]

And since we have the freedom to have our own opinions, I dont have to clearly say why I listed that among others if I dont want to. So could it be thought as pointless? Hardly. Actually that whole sentence is missing context and is even false since pointless would mean that I shouldnt give my opinions if asked, and misleading? Just a POV question since that was just about my opinion.

[marcusorilius]

"I dont have to clearly say why I listed that among others if I dont want to"

That's right - you don't. Just say you don't have any real rationale for your opinions and be done with it instead of trying to justify your right to being an idiot.

[marcusorilius]

"Facts about what"

How about some facts to back up your opinion that MMA is stupid... still waiting.

[Targetius]

Well, feel free to read previous comments if you want to know why I think, among other things, that MMA is basicly just stupid. Even though this sure was funny and you make me laugh, those're all you'll get. That novel is enough - from my part anyway. Hehe. You really are an idiot, there's no denying.

[marcusorilius]

According to you, MMA is stupid because:

"Theres many rules"

"It is a competition"

"You can easily get hurt"

So if something meets the above criteria, you think that it is "stupid"? You don't even realize how retarded your comments and rationale are do you? How old are you, 12?

[bakachikun]

budo's gay...

[Targetius]

This time I just say that MMA is basicly just stupid. Lets not forget that martial arts are mostly to defend yourself. Wing Chun works great on some moron who just attacks you, or on a robber... even if you get in to a fight in a bar it will easily save your ass. That goes even if the attacker is some sunday karate master.

[marcusorilius]

>>This time I just say that MMA is basicly just stupid<<

You think that training in a combination in any of Muay Thai, Kickboxing, Judo, wrestling, Sambo and BJJ is stupid - or just using them to win mixed martial art competitions? What better way is there for testing your martial art ability?

[Targetius]

Oh, I absolutely don't think that one should stick to only one martial art. I said (meaning) that MMA competitions are basicly just stupid. But to your question: why should you test your martial art ability? Well wouldn't the best way then be some sort of street fight? MMA is till only sport and there's many, many things you can't do. Or you could just do kickboxing if you want it to be safer. So what if there's no grappling and grapping and such, it's not that good in MMA anyway.

[marcusorilius]

>>wouldn't the best way then be some sort of street fight?<<

Okay - You bring your Wing Chun (or whatever) and I will bring weapons and 10 buddies... No rules right? That would be silly now wouldn't it? Street fighting is NOT a test of martial art skill. The closest thing we have is MMA sport fighting. And did you say that grappling is not good in MMA??? What MMA are you watching?

[Targetius]

"What better way is there for testing your martial art ability?" To that guestion most logical answer would be a one-on-one street fighting. It's not mine to decide how you would make it work. That's irrelevant to the subject anyway. Yes, grappling there ain't that good since there's always some rules. The rules might be different in some competitions, but is it that great that one should absolutely go to MMAc to prove (to himself?) that he's just so tough?

[Targetius]

I never wanted a damn MMA competition talk. It has gone so far from the subject of my first comment but like I said: Why should you test your martial art ability? The point was that there isnt any fair way to test your MARTIAL ART ability. Most of the better martial arts have lots of pressure point/weak spot/groin area/neck and other that kind of area attacks(WC,JKD,etc.) and therefore there cant be good way to test your MA ability without getting the other one straight to hospital.

[marcusorilius]

>>Why should you test your martial art ability?<<

Simple - To know if what you have learnt is effective. You don't want to find out the hard way that your technique is lacking when it really matters do you? How are you going to know without fighting at some level?

[marcusorilius]

>>one-on-one street fighting<<

Adding rules to a street fight? it is no longer a street fight then. Sport fighting is the same - with even more rules -- which are to limit the disfiguring or permanently damaging techniques. It's about testing the effectiveness of your technique and skill. You have no idea if your skills are effective until you test yourself against others doing the same. You can street fight, but are you willing to risk the chaos and legal issues surrounding this environment?

[Targetius]

Heh. You know, you shouldn't just argue with people. Try learning some martial arts and you'll probably understand that you yourself can tell if they work. Also that's why you practise with other people. And then again, when your hits easily bypass opponents defences and hit him in his weak spots, you don't have to be very intelligent to understand that they WILL work. And of course you can always test your abilities much more safe way if you just want to know if they work.

[Targetius]

MA ability test could only be on a fight where you can do whatever necessary to your opponent. When someone attacks me alone on the street = street fight mano-i-mano. I also said and meant, that if you can make a fight without limiting any of the fighting, then its more accurate on the martial art ability testing. Its irrelevant if its a real street fight or a illegal street fighting competition where you can die or loose your genitals, but theres no safe way to test your MA ability.

[marcusorilius]

So your answer is to just practice the moves, do some light sparring and some demos? LOL - I will stick to full-contact fighting in a controlled environment thanks.

[marcusorilius]

How about a mixture of BJJ, Mauy Thai, Judo and wrestling? I can hold my own, thanks. Practice? You mean playing paddy-cake and demos like in this clip? No thanks. You think that all MMA fighters do this for a living? The majority train and fight in a controlled environment so that they will be able to better learn/apply their trade. If you get good enough, people will even be willing to pay to watch -- but that is not the reason for doing it in the first place.

[Targetius]

Nope. I just answered the most logical and true answers to your guestions. I never even mentioned someone shouldn't do MMA competitions or full-contact fighting. I tried to stay realistic the best I could. One doesn't need to do "demos" nor "light sparring", he can do whatever he wants to. My opinions were never really stated anyway. MMA is just sport like anything else and there are some things that make it even more stupid than boxing or and tickling-karate tournaments.

[Targetius]

Original subject from my part was that you don't have to be the best or even second best fighter to defend yourself. Robbers don't often know any martial art. However, in my opinion you should do some dynamic and broken rhythmed fighting, which is as close to real fighting as possible, to get better. Also, you can do it the way you want to; with or without multiple protectors. My opinions have nothing to do with the answers I gave earlier, like I said.

[marcusorilius]

"you should do some dynamic and broken rhythmed fighting, which is as close to real fighting as possible, to get better"

LOL - This sounds like you are now endorsing MMA... I thought you said that it was stupid?

[marcusorilius]

>>I tried to stay realistic the best I could<<

Yes, it's called MMA sport fighting. You are the one that said, "This time I just say that MMA is basicly just stupid." and now you say that "there are some things that make it even more stupid than boxing or and tickling-karate tournaments"

Like what? Surely ANY contact fighting is better than just doing demos with complying ukes?

[Targetius]

Yes,Itried to stay realistic in my answers. "endorsing MMA" Not really, you can do it well enough with more protectors and much less chance to get hurt. Why I said MMAis basicly just stupid is cause of multiple things. Theres many rules (different comps have diff rules), and not all of them are good..It is a competition, but it's close to WWE sometimes when even partitioners arent acting well..You can easily get hurt..Some of them dont really have much gloves..Many reasons to get broken bones..

[Targetius]

There's other things I wont point out now. I never really wanted to discuss about that subject anyway. It doesnt have to be realistic to the point that you get really hurt, just the fighting not (really the violence) should be close to authentic. Even though I think it's BASICLY just stupid, it doesnt mean I think it's not OK to do it or even that I wouldnt do it. Probably even you, an MMA lover to the blood, can admit there's some things you dont like or can be labeled a bit stupid.

[marcusorilius]

Rules should be:

No maiming techniques like gouging and biting - everything else should be allowed including groin, throat, spine attacks, headbutts and striking a down opponent. You should be able to spike people into the ground. No gloves, no time limits and no rounds. The ref should only stop a fight if one fighter is unconscious or taps. The weigh-ins should be 1 min before the fight so that they can't just cut water weight and put it all back on again.

[marcusorilius]

>>but it's close to WWE sometimes when even partitioners arent acting well<<

You think that MMA is like the WWE? Never mind then, I am wasting my time.

[Targetius]

Sigh. You're acting kinda pathetic. I wouldn't really want to offend anyone, but you seriously are a weird and kind of a immature person. And you really don't seem to understand very well everything you read... but anyway, have you ever seen (MMA) press conferences? No need to answer anyway.

[Targetius]

When I say "close to WWE sometimes when even partitioners arent acting well" it doesn't mean that I "think that MMA is like the WWE". You shouldn't just hold on to something and keep posting stupid comments. If you don't understand what it says or even have any hint what it really could say, please do not post comments. I DO think you are wasting your time, especially I am. Did I ask the rules? No.

[marcusorilius]

"Probably even you, an MMA lover to the blood, can admit there's some things you dont like"

Geez, I was responding to what you wrote. Don't you even read your own posts?

[marcusorilius]

I am not a mind reader! All you said was "but it's close to WWE sometimes" I can't guess what the hell you are TRYING to say - are you female?

[marcusorilius]

So you are comparing MMA to WWE because of the press conferences? That is the truly pathetic, weird and immature thing here, not me calling you out on your stupid comments. I tell you what - I won't reply to you anymore if you don't make any more stupid comments like this.

[Targetius]

"Don't you even read your own posts?" No, I write them. That was not actually a question at all. ">>but it's close to WWE sometimes when even partitioners arent acting well<<

You think that MMA is like the WWE? Never mind then, I am wasting my time." Does that comment automatically mean that? (Lets keep that kinda rhetoric and something to just think from your part)

[Targetius]

"So you are comparing MMA to WWE because of the press conferences?" No. These last comments of yours are pretty much good examples of what I meant on my last comment before them. Sometimes thinking might be the answer. Thinking some of the last comments might help you to understand what THOSE really meant.

[marcusorilius]

You are still trying to circle-jerk your way around your dumb comments, but it's not working. You start off by saying that MMA is stupid, and then that WWE is sometimes like MMA. That's the facts - it's just your reasoning that is missing. If you don't like people calling you on your dumb comments, don't make them.

[Targetius]

Yeah, that must be the case. You are such a clever person. I hoped you had learned something about this, since your way of acting isn't the best out there (like you might know, there's others who have noted the same thing), but I guess you still think that only your opinions are the right ones. Well, everyone has the right to be the moron or person they want to be.

[Targetius]

But don't mind me, you can think I'm just wrong if you want to.

[ClAsSiCtUrKiSh]

Wing Tsun is the best Martial Art I started lerning it and i have to say im loving it its GREAT

[Fastlan3]

As much as i love WT, i agree with marcusrilius. The problem i beleive is people are too scaried to lose with this style and destory what ever strong hold it has on real combat concepts. Someone with very good mind in fight and one who studies these arts should take that chance.

[marcusorilius]

95% of these WC moves are allowed in MMA competitions, so why don't they work in sport fighting? Has anyone seen WC being used in MMA? The only time I have seen it was in the early UFC, and to be honest I don't think that it was well represented. Looks good for quick strikes against untrained noobs, but how about vs. other trained martial artists?

[TheRasD]

I've taken bricks and a pipe to the head. My training consists of wrapping a towel around a palmtree and striking it, and jumping into the air and landing on my back. I CHARENSH YOU!

[Metalblader83]

nice

[jerahn]

I wish my VT had one steps and not center line?? Wait..thats why I stopped doing karate!

[pantselves]

Very cool. Why though do they have to always set these videos to crappy techno music?

[twotetah]

good chun choy,very fast,good forward pressure&overwhelming. Good job.

[bazofnaz]

LUISIN pay no mind to the people that are talking shit, its a great video man and its wing chun and the fighters wing chun. ignore all these narrow minds on here that only have negativity for everything.

great job with the vid and the guys in there are awesome.

[yunxing]

is it "rabbit" punches, or Rapid punches.. haha

[TaruTaru76]

lol. that one was good^^

[markpetersen21]

Some say, that if one is mastering Wing Tsun he can beat 90% of all martial arts, but i don't know if this is true. I bet that on of those rabbitpunches could knock TheRasD out, and probably give u a concussion of the brain. The "rabbit punches" og chain punches are the same technic as Bruce Lee used, when he made his "one inch punch" which was extremely effective.

[firywynter]

Cool, the guy at the end is blindfolded too.. Ive never really seen this form of martial art before, looks pretty cool.

[StuPV]

u say the "rabbit" punches wouldnt hurt, but thats only because no1 has done them to you. you cant see it from here but hes demonstrating a lot of control by not breaking every rib in their bodies. the speed hes punching at, if he was using the full force of his form, he would be breaking a rib every hit, and u see how fast hes doing it. ud be a lump of jelly before u knew it

[TheRasD]

I like how in the escrima portion, the attacker just stands there, unmoving while he is repeatedly hit by the other guy, that would never happen in an actual encounter.

[TheRasD]

LOL... those rabbit punches would not be damaging at all... I mean he's capable of taking the fight out of opponents and dropping them, but those silly fast punches thrown from the elbow are worthless... pull your fist to your chest and strike those bastards in the kidneys!

[kertong]

Physics 101: Force = Mass * Acceleration

Tensing up your arm and pulling it all the way back to your chest or beyond, doesn't increase mass, but most likely inhibits acceleration (at least when done the way 90% of people do it).

There's more than one way to skin a cat, but I wouldn't immediately discredit wing chun punches because they're fast and short ("rabbit punches"). Most of the time, these also have the attacker's entire bodyweight behind it as well. They hurt.

[stochastikos]

stop commenting on things you know nothing about. wing chun is one of the most deadly martial arts. the quick punchs are directed to places like the temple or the neck which only needs 1 good punch. go ahead and have someone punch you in the neck 6 times really fast and then post a follow up comment from the hospital.

[zolis2x]

Have you ever tried it? I have....

[DrewNZ]

I see Ving Tsun - Pie Jarn, Pak Sao, Side step and yes punching - Did you open your eyes ?

Its not fantastic but its Ving Tsun.

I hate it when these guys drop to the ground though, following the opponent ???? just put the boot in for christ sake - its more show than anything...

[luisin1984]

so it's not wing chun ?

[Ouija88]

It ain't look like Wing Chun...just punchin in the air..