Maybe not the best choice of words, but it is certainly spiked and impenetrable for someone without tools.
What I personally find retarded is making a big deal about a few words in a video while totally ignoring its overall point. That is, in case you missed it, is that it is not logical to assume everything in the world was created, unless the designer was a total moron!
There is actually no such thing as "junk DNA", no scientist believes in that, we now know that all of the so called "junk DNA" is needed and performs important functions. The person who made this video might be proof God makes mistakes... but the idea's asserted in this are profoundly stupid, "If God was smart he would have given us laser eyes and immortal bodies with wings and we would live in a world where nothing bad ever happens ever..." If there is a God THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEATH.
WRONG! While a small percentage of junk DNA has been found to have a purpose, the majority of it does not and there is no reason to assume there is any purpose. See watch?v=H43EpS9n2pI
Of course, you can make excuses for your invisible friend in the sky who tortures people for all eternity over their thoughts, but evolution is a much more logical explanation, and one supported by evidence and logic!
@andrew1haddad It is not at all an attack on Christianity. It is an important theory for American school boards to consider when deciding what should be taught in science classes. It is a theory that is scientifically equally valid with ID and Flying Spaghetti Monsterism. It is important that every alternative theory to observable reality is taught in science classes so children can make up their own minds about what to believe about speciation.
@andrew1haddad It is not at all an attack on Christianity. When creationists called for the teaching of the alternative theory in science classes many others just thought is was important to give equal time to all alternative theories of all religions. This is also an important theory for American school boards to include. It is a theory that is scientifically equally valid with ID and Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.
@andrew1haddad If ID is to be taught in science classes it is important that every alternative theory to observable reality is taught in science classes so children can make up their own minds about what to believe about evolution vs alternative theories.
@andrew1haddad Here you have an explanation for the probable background to why this video was made to present the theory of Moronic design:
"Flying Spaghetti Monster | Atheist Experience"
It is not at all just atheists but also Christians who believe in theories based on evidence who wish for ALL alternative theories to be given equal time if ID is to be taught in schools.
@andrew1haddad Here you have an explanation for the probable background to why this video was made to present the theory of Moronic design:
"Flying Spaghetti Monster | Atheist Experience"
It is not at all just atheists but also Christians who believe in theories based on evidence who wish for ALL alternative theories to be given equal time if ID is to be taught in schools.
@andrew1haddad Here you have an explanation for the probable background to why this video was made to present the theory of Moronic design:
"Flying Spaghetti Monster | Atheist Experience"
It is not at all just atheists but also Christians who believe in scientific theories who wish for ALL alternative theories to be given equal time if ID is to be taught in science classes.
@andrew1haddad I could also imagine teaching about all alternative theories to the scientific view on cosmology. For ex. the bible´s theory that the earth is flat, standing on pillars, being the centre of our universe and solar system, with the universe being an outstretched tent above the earth with the stars attached to the tent. Afterall children should get the opportunity to make up their own minds about what theories to believe in.
@Bumblefoot69 Yes that´s what the title says; Moronic design. And it is an equally valid theory as intelligent design and the Flying Spaghetti Monsterism and should get the same respect as ID and FSM:ism.
America is going down the crapper because we are letting Christianity control us! And Christians say atheism is evil, pointing to Stalin and state control. Stalin was an evil man! His ego was his religion. In America, there's freedom of choice. Since there are so many religions, its not correct to hold one in favor. Science, math, and the arts must be taught in schools to the best of our teachers ability. If you want your kid to learn creationism, you teach them. No real learning there!
The anaconda, the giant snake, has remnants of what where feet! It has small pelvic and shoulder bones with nails attached to them! Seriously, the anaconda evolved from a creature that once walked, not slithered. Why would God make a creature look like its evolved from something else? Any way you look at it, evolution not only makes sense but its true. Why can't you accept that science is civil and only tries to find the truth? The Bible's theory of creationism holds no validity and never will.
Also, where in the Bible does it say that the earth is flat? Actually it never really was an issue for the theists. As far as I know there's never really been any controversy about the shape of the earth, being voiced by the Christians. The controversy was about wether or not the earth was the center of the universe.
And where does the Bible explicitly say the earth is only a couple of thousand years old? The Bible is pretty vague in regards to timeframes and open to interpretation.
This video is moronic... It just gives the theists an easy home run.
None of the examples are moronic and some are even plainly false. For example, is it really that moronic, to use one thing for many things? Most people would think it was pretty smart and "economically" sound to built a single thing that can complete a wide variety of tasks. As for example the mouth, wich is used for breathing, speaking, eating and so on. Would it not be more moronic to construct a mechanism for each of the...
Here's another example of moronic design: You. You're being single-minded and humanistic. For example: Coconuts. They're not intended to be eaten at all. They're a seed. They fall from the tree, and roll. If they end up in a suitable spot, they grow into a new tree and the species continues. Another example. Viruses. They can clone themselves, using any host cell. Humans can't do that. They infect us in order to survive. When we sneeze or cough, they're spread, and the species continues. Done.
An amusing video ...one problem though: Potatoes aren't poisonous until cooked. I often munch on a chunk of potatoes while I'm pealing a load of them for dinner to feed my hunger. ...you just need to be careful if they start growing roots. Thumbs up for the vid though ;o)
@theartyone - Actually, all potatoes are toxic, which is not too surprising, as they come from the same family as belladonna and tobacco. Potato breeders take care to avoid increases in alkaloid compounds like solanine. Not the most toxic stuff we ingest, I'll grant, but there's no such thing as a non-poisonous potato, any more than there is a non-toxic cigarette.
To answer a couple of your queries, males have nipples because when we (humans) are in the female womb our genders haven't yet been decided, we all start off as females, its the mutation of the X chromosome into a Y chromosome that makes us males and yes your right, we do breathe and eat out of the same orifice, but there's a flap of skin in your throat called the epiglottis that seals off your wind pipe every time you swallow.
moronic design made me lol repeatedly. Perfect sound track too. Thank you for posting this. It was just what I needed at the end of a long day in the bible belt.
Keep in mind when the bible was writen people belived alot of crazy things like the sun revolves around the earth, you can cure a flesh wound by spiting on it, the earth is flat and square.
not to mention talking snakes, a guy living in a giant fish, walking on water, virgin births and many more mythical nonsense.
Hey, this is MY theory, I call it SDT, Stupid Design Theory. Seriously, the ID crowd makes fools of them selves trying explain the millions of flaws, mistakes, missteps, imperfections, etc, in the universe. The universe my be evidence for a god, but certainly not for a perfect, or even very intellegent god. One example of imperfection: the earth only benefits from less than one billionth of the sun's energy, the rest is wasted in the vastness of space.
Evolution is a theory used by science to explain why man is disobedient to GOD and deny his existance.Evolution assumes that over periods of time species can evolve from a ie: dinasour to a bird. All the while ignoring the fact that their should be thousands of sequential changes throughout the fossil record for EVERY SPECIES.
NO SUCH FOSSIL RECORD EXISTS.
You will surely say , look at this or that, it's clearly the evolution of the species.
@progressfabbrian every creature that exists is an evolutionary form. The fossile record supports evolution more than it needs to. If you dont like it, then go research the genetic tree of life, and see how it fits exactly with the fossil record. ALL species are recognized. There are no real mysteries in the fossil record. And even if there were, it wouldn't matter. We've already been able to use it to predict certain findings, years before we found them. Also evolution doesn't make assumptions
@progressfabbrian i dont know why you think that. again, all speicies are transitional forms. every single one of them. also there are plenty that are cross breeds of species. tiktalic is a clear intermediate from fish to reptiles, archeopteryx shows from reptiles to birds. Just god dammit, stop acting so smug, it only demonstrates that you havent done any research at all.
@syth184 Smug is not the word. Skeptical is the word. You are kidding me with the references you made. The fossil record shows no chain of evolution. You pointed to two species that went extinct, but didn't evolve.
Evolution......What a flimsy theory to cling to... All species are evolutionary forms....That's why the shark and the alligator have evolved...LOL
@progressfabbrian The fossil record shows tons of chains of evolution. i say "smug" because you're just making stuff up and asserting it. donexodus2 has posted 2 videos that are quite lengthy giving examples of hundreds of evolutionary pathways. also what are you trying to prove with your alligator and shark reference? even if you think you have a point, you dont. the entire scientific community accepts evolution, and you arent about to overturn it with something you made up over night
@progressfabbrian i already posted a link here, 99.98% of scientists accept evolution. You can just use strong words like delusional to try to get other people against me. its the wikipedia entry called 'List of scientific societies explicitly rejecting intelligent design' stating "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science" evolution is a fact, we've seen it, use it, explain it, and study it. now you, deal with it
@syth184 Well if it came from wikipedia it must be true! You have proved once more how uncommon comman sense is...... Variation within species is prevolent but sorry, evolution is a big fat lie... Next your going to tell me anthropogenic global warming is good science too..... HEEE HEEE HEEE.... Go look in wikipedia, I'm sure the truth is there (he said sarcastically)
@progressfabbrian now you're just being annoying. I looked it up again, oh look wikipedia didn't lie "there are about 480,000 scientists, but only about 700 believe in "creation-science" or consider it a valid theory[...] And that is just in the United States, which has more creationists than any other industrialized country. In other countries, the number of relevant scientists who accept creationism drops to less than one tenth of 1 percent." -talkorigins (dot) org/indexcc/CA/CA111.html
@progressfabbrian if evolution was wrong, and someone managed to post a successful theory that adequately explained the diversity of life, they would rock several areas of science, which have all proved evolution, including biology, geology, chemistry, and genetics. A tree of life has been created using data from all of these disciplines, and they all ended up the same. Scientists dont lie, that would be stupid. We are interested in discovering the truth, not making shit up. that's religion
@progressfabbrian the .02% of scientists that dont accept evolution, have passed no peer reviewed papers and have never come up with a scientific theory that debunks it. its obvious that their entire purpose was to study the field to try to make it look bad, which they failed to do COMPLETELY. Stop calling people delusional just because you dont know anything at all. Everything you've asserted has been wrong, so now you've resorted to ad hominums.
@progressfabbrian wait a minute, i just noticed you claim the species i mentioned went extinct but didn't evolve... to which i must respond "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?..." the reason we have birds is because of one of the probably billions of offspring given off by every archeopteryx that ever existed was slightly more bird like than its ancestors. archeopteryx going extinct has nothing to do with it. If it never gave birth to a more birdlike form, we wouldn't have birds..
actually i think the 3rd one would be evolution-creationists whom believe that there may be a higher being who may have a hand in the origin of life. Of course you wouldn't be able to fit in any mainstream religious group because most of them take the bible/koran/talmud etc literally
@blogmetoo and I'm sure you'll be having tons of fun after 100 billion billion years of constant existence, with an eternity left to go, listening to the 6 winged eyeball lion praise god non-stop.
Honestly, threatening atheists with hell is a lot like threatening adults with santa's naughty list... in fact it's a lot like threatening kids with it too
@wesingforchange 99.98% of scientists support evolution. how much do you want to bet the .02% who dont arent biologists? And yes I've looked it up, its the wikipedia entry called 'List of scientific societies explicitly rejecting intelligent design' stating "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science" which is even less than the .02% who say they dont believe in evolution. also.. stop calling it darwanism, we're passed him
Every DUMB ASS who thinks there is no God due to moronic design are FOOLS. Moronic design does not prove the non-existence of God. So all you DUMB ASSES should go get a life coz moronic design ain't the solution to prove no God. You ASS HOLES go and give your DUMB ASSES A COOK on the pan.
@guvna747 oh, this video isn't for trying to convince anyone of anything. If creationists could be convinced of anything, there wouldn't be creationists. It's just that you're all so annoying and pompous that rational people enjoy making fun of you. It's like how all parents with children talk when they go to the park. They can all relate with each other about how annoying their children are, and sometimes it's just nice to have a reminder that not everyone is a moron, and that you arent alone
@syth184 let me tell you one thing MORON. This retarded video is saying "We all know that Scientists believe in Darwinism and Creationists believe in intelligent design". I got to say to all you MORON'S that this video is wrong as there are also scientist who believe in intelligent design and not just creationists. In fact there were many scientist who were against Darwinism. Give it a search yourself and find out. I ain't going to spoon feed you.
@syth184 Well it looks like I am going to have to spoon feed you MORON'S. Well I will just give you one video to show some of the top scientists who believed in (GOD, CREATOR, ALLAH). This video also includes Charles Darwin. It also talks about his theories. And any way it's entirely upto you to watch it or not I ain't forcing you. And obviously a normal believer like me can't change the minds of MORON'S like you. Sorry no offense, its just what I think of you.
Well I watched about 18 minutes of that propoganda film, and really i didnt see a point to it. So what if islam lead the way to science? Doesn't change what science says. I also really liked the blatant hypocrisy when they said "Before Islam the Arabs were a barbarous people who worshiped idles of their own making, believed warfare and bloodshed could be virtuous, and were even capable of killing their own children" as opposed to now a days when that never happens a certainly isnt law
@syth184 First of all, you are not a very good watcher or listener as the video is about 39 minutes long and you only decided to watch 18 minutes of the video. Obviously you wouldn't see the point to it. If you want to understand things properly then try to learn properly. And you will not get any where in life if you just sit down in a chair and surf through the internet looking for information that are very likely to be false.
@syth184 And another thing is that if you really want to get proper answers to your questions, then you don't ask or debate with people who don't know much themselves. You ask people who will know a lot, people who have very good knowledge. But first, fix yourself up. Learn properly, not half or less than that like you did watching this video.
@guvna747 if i were to link to you a video that was an hour long, which started out by explaining that the center of the earth is made out of marshmellows, would you watch the entire thing? No. The video you linked me didn't have anything educational, it was just muslims tooting their own horn, trying to make it sound scientific. All they were doing was picking out passages, and extrapolating them to show god telling people to research things. And now we have, but you dont believe it
@syth184 I've course I will watch the entire thing. Even if the video is mentioning false the I would still watch as it still teaches more things. And how would you know that it was just muslims tooting their own horn, try to make it sound scientific.
@guvna747 also, i dont have questions about evolution. i did my research, and ive talked to professionals. Until the theory is successfully overturned, and i mean more so than you blowing spit bubbles and closing biology text bubbles on them, then i am up to date. I didn't ask you anything, because its obvious you dont know. I think the only person who doesn't know how much you don't know, is yourself
@syth184 I see so you have done all your research but half of it. That don't make sense because you couldn't even watch half of that video which I sent to you. Whether it may contain false information or not it still worth watching it, it could teach you something. And although you did your research, the way your telling me is like you don't have to do any further research. I may be wrong but you sound like that.
@syth184 Well you thinking that the only person who doesn't know how much I don't know, is myself. Well that's wrong but I can't argue with that as this is just what you think. But I don't think but I know that you are the dumbest dumb person I have ever communicated with.........No offence though.
no patatoes are not poisonus before cooked !!!...but your fucking true, that is so real, the universe is so imperfect, even do im able to see and create a perfect world in my head where evrybody is understood and where evrybody is happy and where when you aint happy the goverment or god wtv controls you would come and give you what you need to be happy...but thats dosent happen here on earth, the world around me is too mentaly inferior to udnerstand perfection...
Excellent video. And much more believable than intelligent design. It would seem God is senile, but that's not really surprising since he has been around for all eternity.
First off, please learn what evolution is before you make stupid comments. When you actually understand it, I will be happy to debate it's validity.
As for incompetent design, if you want me to believe your invisible cloud being did it, prove it exists. You can only use science, and it must be from real scientists from a real university (Jerry Fawell's does not count) who has had their research peer reviewed and tests repeated by others who got the same results. Then I will listen.
You can start by defining the properties of your "god." What is it made of? What is its density/weight, location, where did it come from, and where is it now? Heaven is not an answer unless you can tell me specifically where heaven is.
Then, you can lay out exactly how we can test the properties of your "god" and how we will know for a fact that a certain result is indeed divine in nature and can only be attributed to your "god." Do that, then we will listen to your so far unproven claims.
I know darn good and well what evolution is and is not. Thank you.
RE: proof , I ask the same of you.
You can only use science, and it must be from real scientists from a real university (The liberal, athiest / agnostics don't count) who has had their research peer reviewed and tests repeated by others who got the same results. Then I will listen.
So basically anyone who does not believe in GOD is not a valid scientist.
Clearly you do not understand evolution. Your language demonstrates you don't.
I never said your scientists had to not believe in your "god," just that they could not have a degree from a fake university. Find someone from a university like Harvard, Yale, Oxford, or any other accredited school and I will consider their research valid.
I will be happy to point you to MANY studies done that show evolution in progress, such as the Russian fur farm fox domestication. Would you like them?
Furthermore, proving your "god" does or does not exist does not fall upon me. It is not my job to prove you are wrong. That is your job to prove you are right. You claim a magical being is watching over you and can do amazing things if you pray. That is a big claim. Let's see some big proof.
I can't prove your imaginary friend you call God is not real. However, if you want others to believe to your imaginary friend is real, you must offer proof, not demand that I disprove it.
I don't have to prove God to you. I don't have to prove anything. Look around you . If you truely believe the foolishness that we are a mathamatical impossibility that has somehow happened by some accidental mixing of primordial goop then go right ahead and believe that.
I choose to believe that God created the universe and left his signature all over creation. All we have to do is look. The complexity of the creation screams out that it's not an accident.
Actually, yes you do have to prove it. You are claiming that believing in something that has been shown to be a FACT is faulty and believing in something that has no evidence what so ever is right. If you wish for others to believe that you are right, you MUST OFFER EVIDENCE that are right. My side can offer evidence. So far, you are claiming that you do not need to provide evidence yet I should believe that you are right because you claim you are. Is that really logical?
Evolution is as much of a fact as GRAVITY is a fact. It has definable characteristics that can be tested and proven time and time again.
I already told you want would prove your "god" is real. I want hard scientific evidence. You can start by defining what you "god" is made of and how we can test those properties.
What would show you that evolution is real? I want a real answer, too. Don't tell me "nothing would." I gave you a real answer before, and I would appreciated real answer back.
@DNAunion Something that complex can not exist by accident. Things don't come to order out of disorder. To now apply that to GOD is to say GOD is the same as the matter and substance as our universe and that simply is not true. God is transcendant. He is not bound by the laws and rules we live under. If your thoughts on GOD are limited to him being as you are than he wouldn't be much of a GOD.
Wrong. Order does arise from disorder, all the time.
And you have done nothing to counter the fact that believing something GREATER than the entire currect universe and all of its life can just exist without a cause is more illogical.
@progressfabbrian When I first read this, I thought you were talking to a christian. Then I read what you were responding too, and found no connection. Then I read what you had said before that, and found a perfect match.
Evolution is the change in the inherited traits of a population of organisms through successive generations. This change is driven by pressures in the environment that favor certain individuals over others. This pressure is generally called natural selection but it has many parts. It does not require a suspension of natural laws or reality to be true the way religion does.
If you would like a good explanation of what evolution is and is not, I recommend the video Evolution by QualiaSoup.
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Evolution is a theory used by science to explain why man is disobedient to GOD and deny his existance.Evolution assumes that over periods of time species can evolve from a ie: dinasour to a bird. All the while ignoring the fact that their should be thousands of sequential changes throughout the fossil record for EVERY SPECIES.
NO SUCH FOSSIL RECORD EXISTS.
You will surely say , look at this or that, it's clearly the evolution of the species.
Wrong again. There are a LOT of transitional species. Whales have some of the best representation in the fossil record. Look it up. Birds did evolve from dinosaurs which it is also well documented in the fossil record.
If your "god" did make us, there would be proof. Please present that proof. Remember, the bible is NOT proof. Furthermore, who made your "god?" If all things have a maker, then logically your "god" does to. Who made the maker, who made the maker's maker, and so on?
@trenton9 Sure. pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/4/l_034_05.html has a great little video about the discovery of some of the transitional fossils as well as those that have been found since. You can also type "whale evolution" into google and find lots of websites that talk about the discoveries of these transitional species as well as images showing the bones/artist renditions of these species. The PBS site is a good place to start, though.
This video states that we are made/designed by a 'moron' . Then I guess that the maker of this video, who is human,(unless this video created itself) , is the product of a 'moron god'. Which, in conclusion, makes the maker of this video a MORON. Keep up the good work 'moron' By the way, if your genitals are a bad design, then simply just cut'em off. You can use my knife...lol
With respect, the video portrays unawareness of basic Bible "fallen world" theology.
On the science side, the function of some "mistakes" mentioned are simply as yet unknown, exemplified by the continuous discoveries regarding "vestigial" organs & "junk" DNA. As it turns out even some mutations have been discovered to be "programmed" in.
Some mutations happen randomly via copy mistakes, but at a rate too low to achieve current diversity in 3.5 bya. About 1/bil basepairs miscopy, of that, how many:
-remain uncorrected?
-are in sex cells?
-are unequivocally beneficial (I've yet to find an example)?
-fix in a population?
-build on prev mutations?
For hypermutation [nonrandom] research, Google scholar search on Papavasiliou and Schatz 2002, Transposable Elements - Hall 1999 & King, Trifonov, & Kashi 2006.
Okay so I read a portion of that article. First of all, the fact that it's in answers journal makes me think it probably hasn't been reviewed by geneticists. But anyway, part of the evidence for common ancestry that we have is the strains of viral DNA that we share with close relatives. If I gave the impression that the only way DNA can change through random mutation, I apologize, because I am aware that some viruses can insert their own DNA etc., but that still doesn't guide overall change.
What I mean by that is that I don't see the point of creationists pointing out how mutations can sometimes occur non-randomly as a result of other mircoorganisms or viruses when since those happen A) as a result of mechanisms created by other non-guided mutations and B) those changers are not magically able to observe the outside environment and make major changes that would cause what creationists are fond of calling "macroevolution."
Being as I don't know what a good chunk of the things you mentioned in your post are, I have no way to comment on those things. I have an overall knowledge of evolution, but I'm lacking in the details. These things you're talking about sound like something that should be directed at someone who's an expert in that area. If I understand your first point then I'd it doesn't seem any more implausible that that is random than anything else. Evolution IS difficult to conceptualize.
Essentially, do progressive DNA changes happen, & if so, are they fast enough to support GTE?
Ya, randomness really puts me at odds with abiogenesis. I currently reject it, but if it occurred, it is the ONLY example of increasing order & specified complexity we've observed in the natural world.
Could God have "seeded" the universe in such a way so as to grow life over immense time spans? Of course; I just don't think He did.
All kinds of DNA changes happen, and they happen with great frequency. It's pretty much statistically guaranteed that some will be good, some neutral, and some bad. The good ones survive because the criteria that determines if they are good is solely based on how well they help survival. Bad ones can survive too, like Huntingtons. Some are also statistically guaranteed to affect areas previously affected by mutations. We've seen this in insects, larger orgs don't reproduce fast enough though
Lastly, I think the user cdk007 has very good, clear videos explaining how abio very easily could have happened (we don't know how it DID happen, but we've pretty much proven it's possible.) Also, it's wrong to say it's the only example of increasing order we observe. The formation of stars, solar systems, and galaxies is one. The formation of heavy elements and complex molecules is another. Life simply builds on these processes.
Unless you are contesting the notion that it's even possible for the DNA responsible for these mechanisms to have have occurred and propagated naturally, then I think the perceived likelihood can be done away with. Humans are simply not able to conceive of time on an evolutionary scale, and as such cannot judge the likelihood of something evolving. Remember, also, there is not only one possible evolutionary path, just whatever trait happens to emerge first is what is built upon.
1) They don't have to be unequiv beneficial, only more beneficial than harmful. Also, it seems to me like all mutations are cumulative, considering they either alter existing traits or create new traits in addition to existing ones. To me, a mutation that's not cumulative is one that erases traits and essentially regresses along the evolutionary path.
2) Again, I don't see what you're basing that one. Evolution definitely has moved much faster than it does now at different eras in history.
I still think life is unique, but I think that people are often in error when they for some reason think that it's a rule of this universe that thinks go from being in order to being in disorder, or from complexity to simplicity. It's just not how it works. The 2nd law of thermodynamics is often misinterpreted as saying this.
"but at a rate too low to achieve current diversity in 3.5 bya." No, don't think so. I'm curious what you're basing that on. Because we live in a pretty stable in environment, with a large interbreeding population, many changes will get filtered out. Also mutations are not usually unequivocally beneficial, most are minute but it's wrong to say none are at least somewhat beneficial. Also, because of sexual selection and genetic drift, not all even have to be beneficial.
Earthquakes and floods and tidal waves and all the rest shape the planet and move stuff around for a reason. The real problem is stupid humans attempting to live near them, beside them or on top of them.
Well mouth hole can be used for breathing but ideally the nose is most efficient. The mouth option comes in handy while swimming. The mechanism that controls the airway and esophagus is remarkable in design. If you were designing the next human would you provide two openings for air and food?
This one I actually agree with the video on. I think it is unfortunate that choking can impede breathing, as it is something that can happen so easily. If it only impeded swallowing, it would be far less urgent and could be dealt with more times, especially when children put things in their mouths.
The other issues regarding potatoes and coconuts seem foolish. Throughout nature there are defense mechanisms to protect fruit and plants from insects and weather etc. So humans learned how to cook and make knives to get around it. God create man with reasoning powers to cope.
Nicely said. Isn't it amazing how in the image of God, the created can create?
Additionally regarding the environment, I actually agree with the left on being better stewards of our planet (although probably f/ diff reasons), whether or not we are contributing to global warming.
Four corners well look at the greek word in the verse mentioned. The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is gonia. The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. Another interpretation is extent. So it is not clear from the text that the author believed the Earth was flat. There are other Bible passages that use words like "the circle of the Earth".
"Urine and sperm never leave the penis at the same time. When a man ejaculates, the passageway for the urine is closed. When a man urinates, the passageway for the semen is closed. Ejaculation and urination can not happen at the same time. " Would you want another dangling appendage just to keep the functions separate?
Male nipples are part of the sexual stimulation process . Both male and female are stimulated by touching the nipples during arousal therefore face to face i.e. normal heterosexual male female position is encouraged.
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This is actually funny if this is fake. I find it quite sad that a human who is old enough to use a computer actually seems to miss how each one of those "facts" are overly simplified. If you were to actually analyze the knee for example you would see that it actually is quite amazing how we are designed. There is cartilage in our joints to prevent them from "pounding" together, at least until we age, which is natural.I would rather not think a moron could really believe this.
@Sorabjian Since you like the book of Revelation you should pay attention to this verse.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The average human uses different parts of their brain at different times for different tasks. And there is no such thing as junk DNA. The human brain is the most complex machine in the known universe.
Despite all the factual errors I found this quite funny.
it is good to question religion. without questions, we wuld all be conformists. But the only thing I would disagree with your presentation is that mouth is not the only hole for breathing. We breathe through our nose. ;o)
Yay. Very funny. My own take is - why design a world where everything has to eat everything else? Why not invent an intelligent creature that simply takes the energy it needs straight from the sun?
I think that people who believe pineapples have an "impenetrable spiked outer shell" are legally retarded. Pretty sure about that....
AbandonedPanda 2 weeks ago
@AbandonedPanda
Maybe not the best choice of words, but it is certainly spiked and impenetrable for someone without tools.
What I personally find retarded is making a big deal about a few words in a video while totally ignoring its overall point. That is, in case you missed it, is that it is not logical to assume everything in the world was created, unless the designer was a total moron!
allahburpscum100 1 week ago
There is actually no such thing as "junk DNA", no scientist believes in that, we now know that all of the so called "junk DNA" is needed and performs important functions. The person who made this video might be proof God makes mistakes... but the idea's asserted in this are profoundly stupid, "If God was smart he would have given us laser eyes and immortal bodies with wings and we would live in a world where nothing bad ever happens ever..." If there is a God THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEATH.
AbandonedPanda 2 weeks ago
@AbandonedPanda
WRONG! While a small percentage of junk DNA has been found to have a purpose, the majority of it does not and there is no reason to assume there is any purpose. See watch?v=H43EpS9n2pI
Of course, you can make excuses for your invisible friend in the sky who tortures people for all eternity over their thoughts, but evolution is a much more logical explanation, and one supported by evidence and logic!
allahburpscum100 1 week ago
Urine isn't toxic.
Unless you have one serious bladder infection, in which case you are unlikely to be in the mood for fucking.
DaToNyOyO 2 months ago
Hahahahahahahaha! You could have added some more examples of evidence in animals for moronic design. But very funny!
katnils 2 months ago
Republicans are a perfect example of Moronic Design.
FuckYouLetMeLogIn 2 months ago
1:01 - is that bad?
borissman 3 months ago in playlist Liked videos
its funny how this is incredibly inaccurate, and its funny how its a direct attack against Christianity
andrew1haddad 3 months ago
@andrew1haddad It is not at all an attack on Christianity. It is an important theory for American school boards to consider when deciding what should be taught in science classes. It is a theory that is scientifically equally valid with ID and Flying Spaghetti Monsterism. It is important that every alternative theory to observable reality is taught in science classes so children can make up their own minds about what to believe about speciation.
katnils 2 months ago
@andrew1haddad It is not at all an attack on Christianity. When creationists called for the teaching of the alternative theory in science classes many others just thought is was important to give equal time to all alternative theories of all religions. This is also an important theory for American school boards to include. It is a theory that is scientifically equally valid with ID and Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.
katnils 2 months ago
@andrew1haddad If ID is to be taught in science classes it is important that every alternative theory to observable reality is taught in science classes so children can make up their own minds about what to believe about evolution vs alternative theories.
katnils 2 months ago
@andrew1haddad Here you have an explanation for the probable background to why this video was made to present the theory of Moronic design:
"Flying Spaghetti Monster | Atheist Experience"
It is not at all just atheists but also Christians who believe in theories based on evidence who wish for ALL alternative theories to be given equal time if ID is to be taught in schools.
katnils 2 months ago
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@andrew1haddad Here you have an explanation for the probable background to why this video was made to present the theory of Moronic design:
"Flying Spaghetti Monster | Atheist Experience"
It is not at all just atheists but also Christians who believe in theories based on evidence who wish for ALL alternative theories to be given equal time if ID is to be taught in schools.
katnils 2 months ago
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@andrew1haddad Here you have an explanation for the probable background to why this video was made to present the theory of Moronic design:
"Flying Spaghetti Monster | Atheist Experience"
It is not at all just atheists but also Christians who believe in scientific theories who wish for ALL alternative theories to be given equal time if ID is to be taught in science classes.
katnils 2 months ago
@andrew1haddad I could also imagine teaching about all alternative theories to the scientific view on cosmology. For ex. the bible´s theory that the earth is flat, standing on pillars, being the centre of our universe and solar system, with the universe being an outstretched tent above the earth with the stars attached to the tent. Afterall children should get the opportunity to make up their own minds about what theories to believe in.
katnils 2 months ago
Absolutely and utterly moronic. Just plain bad.
Bumblefoot69 6 months ago
@Bumblefoot69 Yes that´s what the title says; Moronic design. And it is an equally valid theory as intelligent design and the Flying Spaghetti Monsterism and should get the same respect as ID and FSM:ism.
katnils 2 months ago
Im converting into a moronicist:P
let me ad to the evidence.
Most animals eye - blind spot right in the middle of it.
Human spine - sevearly bad design for uppright movement.
Human hips - same as above.
Human foot - same again.
Cell membrane - works toooo damn good, it requires energy to get nutrients into it.
All hail moronicism.
Sweddude 7 months ago
We might as well teach our children that everything in this universe is because of God.
Professor Creationist Hicks to the classroom: Any of you children know why is the sun hot?
Timmy the smart one answers: The sun is a giant nuclear reactor, fusing hydrogen into helium!
Professor Hick says: Nope!
Bristol the horny dits says: God made it hot because God wants us not to freeze to death!
Professor Hicks says: Exactly! You see children, science gets in the way of the truth. Damn atheist!
raybanfandom 7 months ago
America is going down the crapper because we are letting Christianity control us! And Christians say atheism is evil, pointing to Stalin and state control. Stalin was an evil man! His ego was his religion. In America, there's freedom of choice. Since there are so many religions, its not correct to hold one in favor. Science, math, and the arts must be taught in schools to the best of our teachers ability. If you want your kid to learn creationism, you teach them. No real learning there!
raybanfandom 7 months ago
The anaconda, the giant snake, has remnants of what where feet! It has small pelvic and shoulder bones with nails attached to them! Seriously, the anaconda evolved from a creature that once walked, not slithered. Why would God make a creature look like its evolved from something else? Any way you look at it, evolution not only makes sense but its true. Why can't you accept that science is civil and only tries to find the truth? The Bible's theory of creationism holds no validity and never will.
raybanfandom 7 months ago
this is the worst video against intelligent design
1617user 9 months ago
hahaha I LOVE THIS VIDEO! hahaha
primus9370 9 months ago
god have no aplication in hell moron!
eldouyet 10 months ago
I have laughed so hard that now my hernia hurts!!!
In the list of mistakes you may add hemorrhoids; how can someone design such a lousy thing???
All4reason 11 months ago
I HAVE NEVER LAUGHED THAT MUCH IN MY LIFE!!!!
I can't even write I am laughing so damn hard!!!
All4reason 11 months ago
...tasks?
Also, where in the Bible does it say that the earth is flat? Actually it never really was an issue for the theists. As far as I know there's never really been any controversy about the shape of the earth, being voiced by the Christians. The controversy was about wether or not the earth was the center of the universe.
And where does the Bible explicitly say the earth is only a couple of thousand years old? The Bible is pretty vague in regards to timeframes and open to interpretation.
MrSinkbaek 11 months ago
This video is moronic... It just gives the theists an easy home run.
None of the examples are moronic and some are even plainly false. For example, is it really that moronic, to use one thing for many things? Most people would think it was pretty smart and "economically" sound to built a single thing that can complete a wide variety of tasks. As for example the mouth, wich is used for breathing, speaking, eating and so on. Would it not be more moronic to construct a mechanism for each of the...
MrSinkbaek 11 months ago
Here's another example of moronic design: You. You're being single-minded and humanistic. For example: Coconuts. They're not intended to be eaten at all. They're a seed. They fall from the tree, and roll. If they end up in a suitable spot, they grow into a new tree and the species continues. Another example. Viruses. They can clone themselves, using any host cell. Humans can't do that. They infect us in order to survive. When we sneeze or cough, they're spread, and the species continues. Done.
jackcrazeanim 1 year ago
I lol'd
teetertoter3 1 year ago
An amusing video ...one problem though: Potatoes aren't poisonous until cooked. I often munch on a chunk of potatoes while I'm pealing a load of them for dinner to feed my hunger. ...you just need to be careful if they start growing roots. Thumbs up for the vid though ;o)
theartyone 1 year ago
@theartyone - Actually, all potatoes are toxic, which is not too surprising, as they come from the same family as belladonna and tobacco. Potato breeders take care to avoid increases in alkaloid compounds like solanine. Not the most toxic stuff we ingest, I'll grant, but there's no such thing as a non-poisonous potato, any more than there is a non-toxic cigarette.
47f0 1 year ago
@AloofPeregrine Watching it right now, awesome.
brmadman4455 1 year ago
Excellent video I like....
SharedViewsNews 1 year ago
To answer a couple of your queries, males have nipples because when we (humans) are in the female womb our genders haven't yet been decided, we all start off as females, its the mutation of the X chromosome into a Y chromosome that makes us males and yes your right, we do breathe and eat out of the same orifice, but there's a flap of skin in your throat called the epiglottis that seals off your wind pipe every time you swallow.
flooshar 1 year ago
Viva the MD movement
UsqueAdNauseam 1 year ago
blasphemy, stupidity, and gross misinterpretation
honorthrawn 1 year ago
LOL I like that, a moronic god. Man that is good stuff.
mymojorisin 1 year ago
moronic design made me lol repeatedly. Perfect sound track too. Thank you for posting this. It was just what I needed at the end of a long day in the bible belt.
zodiakranch 1 year ago 2
perhaps the moronic design comes from god making the univerce in the dark?
Atheistatheart1 1 year ago 2
Keep in mind when the bible was writen people belived alot of crazy things like the sun revolves around the earth, you can cure a flesh wound by spiting on it, the earth is flat and square.
not to mention talking snakes, a guy living in a giant fish, walking on water, virgin births and many more mythical nonsense.
Demondave17 1 year ago
Hey, this is MY theory, I call it SDT, Stupid Design Theory. Seriously, the ID crowd makes fools of them selves trying explain the millions of flaws, mistakes, missteps, imperfections, etc, in the universe. The universe my be evidence for a god, but certainly not for a perfect, or even very intellegent god. One example of imperfection: the earth only benefits from less than one billionth of the sun's energy, the rest is wasted in the vastness of space.
averagebear1 1 year ago
@averagebear1 no it's STD for STUPID THEORY of DESIGN
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
a moronic god seems more logical than a "normal" god.
cocojumb0 1 year ago
i just cant belive that some people still belive there is a god.how fucked are they?
loved the clip
so true
bullamarta 1 year ago
Well done.
dac8555 1 year ago
Evolution is a theory used by science to explain why man is disobedient to GOD and deny his existance.Evolution assumes that over periods of time species can evolve from a ie: dinasour to a bird. All the while ignoring the fact that their should be thousands of sequential changes throughout the fossil record for EVERY SPECIES.
NO SUCH FOSSIL RECORD EXISTS.
You will surely say , look at this or that, it's clearly the evolution of the species.
ALL species are not represented in the record.
progressfabbrian 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian every creature that exists is an evolutionary form. The fossile record supports evolution more than it needs to. If you dont like it, then go research the genetic tree of life, and see how it fits exactly with the fossil record. ALL species are recognized. There are no real mysteries in the fossil record. And even if there were, it wouldn't matter. We've already been able to use it to predict certain findings, years before we found them. Also evolution doesn't make assumptions
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 No fossil record of transitional species.... evolution failure...
progressfabbrian 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian i dont know why you think that. again, all speicies are transitional forms. every single one of them. also there are plenty that are cross breeds of species. tiktalic is a clear intermediate from fish to reptiles, archeopteryx shows from reptiles to birds. Just god dammit, stop acting so smug, it only demonstrates that you havent done any research at all.
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 Smug is not the word. Skeptical is the word. You are kidding me with the references you made. The fossil record shows no chain of evolution. You pointed to two species that went extinct, but didn't evolve.
Evolution......What a flimsy theory to cling to... All species are evolutionary forms....That's why the shark and the alligator have evolved...LOL
progressfabbrian 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian The fossil record shows tons of chains of evolution. i say "smug" because you're just making stuff up and asserting it. donexodus2 has posted 2 videos that are quite lengthy giving examples of hundreds of evolutionary pathways. also what are you trying to prove with your alligator and shark reference? even if you think you have a point, you dont. the entire scientific community accepts evolution, and you arent about to overturn it with something you made up over night
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184" the entire scientific community accepts evolution" you are dillusional.
Like most monkey people your science does not even stand up to it's own self prescribed rules. Go back to fantasy land.
progressfabbrian 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian i already posted a link here, 99.98% of scientists accept evolution. You can just use strong words like delusional to try to get other people against me. its the wikipedia entry called 'List of scientific societies explicitly rejecting intelligent design' stating "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science" evolution is a fact, we've seen it, use it, explain it, and study it. now you, deal with it
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 Well if it came from wikipedia it must be true! You have proved once more how uncommon comman sense is...... Variation within species is prevolent but sorry, evolution is a big fat lie... Next your going to tell me anthropogenic global warming is good science too..... HEEE HEEE HEEE.... Go look in wikipedia, I'm sure the truth is there (he said sarcastically)
progressfabbrian 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian now you're just being annoying. I looked it up again, oh look wikipedia didn't lie "there are about 480,000 scientists, but only about 700 believe in "creation-science" or consider it a valid theory[...] And that is just in the United States, which has more creationists than any other industrialized country. In other countries, the number of relevant scientists who accept creationism drops to less than one tenth of 1 percent." -talkorigins (dot) org/indexcc/CA/CA111.html
syth184 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian if evolution was wrong, and someone managed to post a successful theory that adequately explained the diversity of life, they would rock several areas of science, which have all proved evolution, including biology, geology, chemistry, and genetics. A tree of life has been created using data from all of these disciplines, and they all ended up the same. Scientists dont lie, that would be stupid. We are interested in discovering the truth, not making shit up. that's religion
syth184 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian the .02% of scientists that dont accept evolution, have passed no peer reviewed papers and have never come up with a scientific theory that debunks it. its obvious that their entire purpose was to study the field to try to make it look bad, which they failed to do COMPLETELY. Stop calling people delusional just because you dont know anything at all. Everything you've asserted has been wrong, so now you've resorted to ad hominums.
syth184 1 year ago
@progressfabbrian wait a minute, i just noticed you claim the species i mentioned went extinct but didn't evolve... to which i must respond "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?..." the reason we have birds is because of one of the probably billions of offspring given off by every archeopteryx that ever existed was slightly more bird like than its ancestors. archeopteryx going extinct has nothing to do with it. If it never gave birth to a more birdlike form, we wouldn't have birds..
syth184 1 year ago
actually i think the 3rd one would be evolution-creationists whom believe that there may be a higher being who may have a hand in the origin of life. Of course you wouldn't be able to fit in any mainstream religious group because most of them take the bible/koran/talmud etc literally
jrnesbit 1 year ago
Please tell the devil I said "hi" when you go you know where. You fool only at the end will you understand...
blogmetoo 1 year ago
@blogmetoo and I'm sure you'll be having tons of fun after 100 billion billion years of constant existence, with an eternity left to go, listening to the 6 winged eyeball lion praise god non-stop.
Honestly, threatening atheists with hell is a lot like threatening adults with santa's naughty list... in fact it's a lot like threatening kids with it too
syth184 1 year ago
I support moronic design 100&
AAUGOAAA 1 year ago
Actually not all scientists support Darwinism....
wesingforchange 1 year ago
@wesingforchange 99.98% of scientists support evolution. how much do you want to bet the .02% who dont arent biologists? And yes I've looked it up, its the wikipedia entry called 'List of scientific societies explicitly rejecting intelligent design' stating "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science" which is even less than the .02% who say they dont believe in evolution. also.. stop calling it darwanism, we're passed him
syth184 1 year ago
@wesingforchange The ones who are employed do.
tiggster13 1 year ago
We use the nose for breathing you dumb ass lol.
guvna747 1 year ago
@guvna747 you got him there there not-dumb ass
syth184 1 year ago
Every DUMB ASS who thinks there is no God due to moronic design are FOOLS. Moronic design does not prove the non-existence of God. So all you DUMB ASSES should go get a life coz moronic design ain't the solution to prove no God. You ASS HOLES go and give your DUMB ASSES A COOK on the pan.
guvna747 1 year ago
@guvna747 oh, this video isn't for trying to convince anyone of anything. If creationists could be convinced of anything, there wouldn't be creationists. It's just that you're all so annoying and pompous that rational people enjoy making fun of you. It's like how all parents with children talk when they go to the park. They can all relate with each other about how annoying their children are, and sometimes it's just nice to have a reminder that not everyone is a moron, and that you arent alone
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 let me tell you one thing MORON. This retarded video is saying "We all know that Scientists believe in Darwinism and Creationists believe in intelligent design". I got to say to all you MORON'S that this video is wrong as there are also scientist who believe in intelligent design and not just creationists. In fact there were many scientist who were against Darwinism. Give it a search yourself and find out. I ain't going to spoon feed you.
guvna747 1 year ago
@guvna747 i looked it up. you're wrong. and even if you weren't. no one cares. Also it's not called darwinism.
I also really like how you capitalize MORON in the same way that christians capitalize GOD
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 Well it looks like I am going to have to spoon feed you MORON'S. Well I will just give you one video to show some of the top scientists who believed in (GOD, CREATOR, ALLAH). This video also includes Charles Darwin. It also talks about his theories. And any way it's entirely upto you to watch it or not I ain't forcing you. And obviously a normal believer like me can't change the minds of MORON'S like you. Sorry no offense, its just what I think of you.
guvna747 1 year ago
Well I watched about 18 minutes of that propoganda film, and really i didnt see a point to it. So what if islam lead the way to science? Doesn't change what science says. I also really liked the blatant hypocrisy when they said "Before Islam the Arabs were a barbarous people who worshiped idles of their own making, believed warfare and bloodshed could be virtuous, and were even capable of killing their own children" as opposed to now a days when that never happens a certainly isnt law
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 First of all, you are not a very good watcher or listener as the video is about 39 minutes long and you only decided to watch 18 minutes of the video. Obviously you wouldn't see the point to it. If you want to understand things properly then try to learn properly. And you will not get any where in life if you just sit down in a chair and surf through the internet looking for information that are very likely to be false.
guvna747 1 year ago
@syth184 And another thing is that if you really want to get proper answers to your questions, then you don't ask or debate with people who don't know much themselves. You ask people who will know a lot, people who have very good knowledge. But first, fix yourself up. Learn properly, not half or less than that like you did watching this video.
guvna747 1 year ago
@guvna747 if i were to link to you a video that was an hour long, which started out by explaining that the center of the earth is made out of marshmellows, would you watch the entire thing? No. The video you linked me didn't have anything educational, it was just muslims tooting their own horn, trying to make it sound scientific. All they were doing was picking out passages, and extrapolating them to show god telling people to research things. And now we have, but you dont believe it
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 I've course I will watch the entire thing. Even if the video is mentioning false the I would still watch as it still teaches more things. And how would you know that it was just muslims tooting their own horn, try to make it sound scientific.
guvna747 1 year ago
@guvna747 also, i dont have questions about evolution. i did my research, and ive talked to professionals. Until the theory is successfully overturned, and i mean more so than you blowing spit bubbles and closing biology text bubbles on them, then i am up to date. I didn't ask you anything, because its obvious you dont know. I think the only person who doesn't know how much you don't know, is yourself
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 I see so you have done all your research but half of it. That don't make sense because you couldn't even watch half of that video which I sent to you. Whether it may contain false information or not it still worth watching it, it could teach you something. And although you did your research, the way your telling me is like you don't have to do any further research. I may be wrong but you sound like that.
guvna747 1 year ago
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@syth184 Well you thinking that the only person who doesn't know how much I don't know, is myself. Well that's wrong but I can't argue with that as this is just what you think. But I don't think but I know that you are the dumbest dumb person I have ever communicated with.........No offence though.
guvna747 1 year ago
@syth184 The video is called "Quran Leads The Way To Science".
guvna747 1 year ago
@guvna747 google project steve, see just what a tiny minority of scientists don't believe evolution.
Strikesnake1994 1 year ago
@syth184 And this MORONIC design is only taught to MORONIC MORONS.LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
guvna747 1 year ago
@guvna747 oh i get it, you're a troll. Forgive me, there are actually people that are this stupid, so it's hard to tell the difference.
syth184 1 year ago
@syth184 ye I know its true, people like you init. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
guvna747 1 year ago
no patatoes are not poisonus before cooked !!!...but your fucking true, that is so real, the universe is so imperfect, even do im able to see and create a perfect world in my head where evrybody is understood and where evrybody is happy and where when you aint happy the goverment or god wtv controls you would come and give you what you need to be happy...but thats dosent happen here on earth, the world around me is too mentaly inferior to udnerstand perfection...
makavelifollower 2 years ago
all necessary and almost all cancer is result of environment or habit.
rocamik 2 years ago
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@rocamik you made that up, and you know it
syth184 1 year ago
Hey foolish, Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
rocamik 2 years ago
Excellent video. And much more believable than intelligent design. It would seem God is senile, but that's not really surprising since he has been around for all eternity.
Could not stop laughing.
believerornot 2 years ago
I published this video on the Dutch website WELSTIJL (5 january) kind regards Sem Mallée
welstijlfilms 2 years ago
the bible also supports the theory of a moronic designer.
"god created man in his own image"
(genesis 1:27)
1schwererziehbar1 2 years ago 2
LOL
Yes, let's all go out and demand they teach moronic design! Children need to know the truth!
Great video.
Tealya 2 years ago 23
I understand you logic as a way to explain yourself.
Moronic design= you
Makes perfect sense.
Evolution = monkey = you
I'm with you so far.
Intellegent design = extremly complex creation = GOD
Makes no sense
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
First off, please learn what evolution is before you make stupid comments. When you actually understand it, I will be happy to debate it's validity.
As for incompetent design, if you want me to believe your invisible cloud being did it, prove it exists. You can only use science, and it must be from real scientists from a real university (Jerry Fawell's does not count) who has had their research peer reviewed and tests repeated by others who got the same results. Then I will listen.
Tealya 2 years ago
You can start by defining the properties of your "god." What is it made of? What is its density/weight, location, where did it come from, and where is it now? Heaven is not an answer unless you can tell me specifically where heaven is.
Then, you can lay out exactly how we can test the properties of your "god" and how we will know for a fact that a certain result is indeed divine in nature and can only be attributed to your "god." Do that, then we will listen to your so far unproven claims.
Tealya 2 years ago
I know darn good and well what evolution is and is not. Thank you.
RE: proof , I ask the same of you.
You can only use science, and it must be from real scientists from a real university (The liberal, athiest / agnostics don't count) who has had their research peer reviewed and tests repeated by others who got the same results. Then I will listen.
So basically anyone who does not believe in GOD is not a valid scientist.
See how stupid your premise is!
Give me a break.
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
Clearly you do not understand evolution. Your language demonstrates you don't.
I never said your scientists had to not believe in your "god," just that they could not have a degree from a fake university. Find someone from a university like Harvard, Yale, Oxford, or any other accredited school and I will consider their research valid.
I will be happy to point you to MANY studies done that show evolution in progress, such as the Russian fur farm fox domestication. Would you like them?
Tealya 2 years ago
Furthermore, proving your "god" does or does not exist does not fall upon me. It is not my job to prove you are wrong. That is your job to prove you are right. You claim a magical being is watching over you and can do amazing things if you pray. That is a big claim. Let's see some big proof.
I can't prove your imaginary friend you call God is not real. However, if you want others to believe to your imaginary friend is real, you must offer proof, not demand that I disprove it.
Tealya 2 years ago
I don't have to prove God to you. I don't have to prove anything. Look around you . If you truely believe the foolishness that we are a mathamatical impossibility that has somehow happened by some accidental mixing of primordial goop then go right ahead and believe that.
I choose to believe that God created the universe and left his signature all over creation. All we have to do is look. The complexity of the creation screams out that it's not an accident.
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
Actually, yes you do have to prove it. You are claiming that believing in something that has been shown to be a FACT is faulty and believing in something that has no evidence what so ever is right. If you wish for others to believe that you are right, you MUST OFFER EVIDENCE that are right. My side can offer evidence. So far, you are claiming that you do not need to provide evidence yet I should believe that you are right because you claim you are. Is that really logical?
Tealya 2 years ago
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What would it take for you to believe? What evidence would I need to present for you to accept GOD as real in your mind?
Also, I take great exception to your statement that evolution is fact. That shows me that you are just as narrow minded as you claim I am.
Evolution is fact just like man made global warming is fact.
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
Evolution is as much of a fact as GRAVITY is a fact. It has definable characteristics that can be tested and proven time and time again.
I already told you want would prove your "god" is real. I want hard scientific evidence. You can start by defining what you "god" is made of and how we can test those properties.
What would show you that evolution is real? I want a real answer, too. Don't tell me "nothing would." I gave you a real answer before, and I would appreciated real answer back.
Tealya 2 years ago 2
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progressfabbrian: "The complexity of the creation screams out that it's not an accident. "
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So something as complex as our universe and its life could not just exist without a cause ... but something GREATER than all that could? Not logical.
DNAunion 2 years ago
@DNAunion Something that complex can not exist by accident. Things don't come to order out of disorder. To now apply that to GOD is to say GOD is the same as the matter and substance as our universe and that simply is not true. God is transcendant. He is not bound by the laws and rules we live under. If your thoughts on GOD are limited to him being as you are than he wouldn't be much of a GOD.
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
Wrong. Order does arise from disorder, all the time.
And you have done nothing to counter the fact that believing something GREATER than the entire currect universe and all of its life can just exist without a cause is more illogical.
DNAunion 2 years ago
@DNAunion
If you don't like the truth.........Make up your own!
That seems to be your mantra.
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
Coming from the person who doesn't know thermodynamics, but thinks he does, your comment doesn't mean much.
DNAunion 2 years ago
@progressfabbrian When I first read this, I thought you were talking to a christian. Then I read what you were responding too, and found no connection. Then I read what you had said before that, and found a perfect match.
syth184 1 year ago
Oh clearly I don't understand what your definition of evolution is. Please explain what you believe it to be so I can understand you.
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
Evolution is the change in the inherited traits of a population of organisms through successive generations. This change is driven by pressures in the environment that favor certain individuals over others. This pressure is generally called natural selection but it has many parts. It does not require a suspension of natural laws or reality to be true the way religion does.
If you would like a good explanation of what evolution is and is not, I recommend the video Evolution by QualiaSoup.
Tealya 2 years ago
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Evolution is a theory used by science to explain why man is disobedient to GOD and deny his existance.Evolution assumes that over periods of time species can evolve from a ie: dinasour to a bird. All the while ignoring the fact that their should be thousands of sequential changes throughout the fossil record for EVERY SPECIES.
NO SUCH FOSSIL RECORD EXISTS.
You will surely say , look at this or that, it's clearly the evolution of the species.
ALL species are not represented in the record.
progressfabbrian 2 years ago
Wrong again. There are a LOT of transitional species. Whales have some of the best representation in the fossil record. Look it up. Birds did evolve from dinosaurs which it is also well documented in the fossil record.
If your "god" did make us, there would be proof. Please present that proof. Remember, the bible is NOT proof. Furthermore, who made your "god?" If all things have a maker, then logically your "god" does to. Who made the maker, who made the maker's maker, and so on?
Tealya 2 years ago 10
@Tealya
Any particularly good web links for transitional whale fossils you might want to share?
trenton9 8 months ago
@trenton9 Sure. pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/4/l_034_05.html has a great little video about the discovery of some of the transitional fossils as well as those that have been found since. You can also type "whale evolution" into google and find lots of websites that talk about the discoveries of these transitional species as well as images showing the bones/artist renditions of these species. The PBS site is a good place to start, though.
Tealya 8 months ago
This video states that we are made/designed by a 'moron' . Then I guess that the maker of this video, who is human,(unless this video created itself) , is the product of a 'moron god'. Which, in conclusion, makes the maker of this video a MORON. Keep up the good work 'moron' By the way, if your genitals are a bad design, then simply just cut'em off. You can use my knife...lol
landis346 2 years ago
With respect, the video portrays unawareness of basic Bible "fallen world" theology.
On the science side, the function of some "mistakes" mentioned are simply as yet unknown, exemplified by the continuous discoveries regarding "vestigial" organs & "junk" DNA. As it turns out even some mutations have been discovered to be "programmed" in.
mikebForJesus 2 years ago
What does that mean, "mutations have been programmed in?" Mutations happen naturally and are responsible for all our genes, not just some.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
Thx f/ reply,
Some mutations happen randomly via copy mistakes, but at a rate too low to achieve current diversity in 3.5 bya. About 1/bil basepairs miscopy, of that, how many:
-remain uncorrected?
-are in sex cells?
-are unequivocally beneficial (I've yet to find an example)?
-fix in a population?
-build on prev mutations?
For hypermutation [nonrandom] research, Google scholar search on Papavasiliou and Schatz 2002, Transposable Elements - Hall 1999 & King, Trifonov, & Kashi 2006.
mikebForJesus 2 years ago
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LanceDirk 2 years ago
Okay so I read a portion of that article. First of all, the fact that it's in answers journal makes me think it probably hasn't been reviewed by geneticists. But anyway, part of the evidence for common ancestry that we have is the strains of viral DNA that we share with close relatives. If I gave the impression that the only way DNA can change through random mutation, I apologize, because I am aware that some viruses can insert their own DNA etc., but that still doesn't guide overall change.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
What I mean by that is that I don't see the point of creationists pointing out how mutations can sometimes occur non-randomly as a result of other mircoorganisms or viruses when since those happen A) as a result of mechanisms created by other non-guided mutations and B) those changers are not magically able to observe the outside environment and make major changes that would cause what creationists are fond of calling "macroevolution."
LanceDirk 2 years ago
The Answers article referenced the journal papers mentioned, which are subject to peer review. Whether that was done yet, I don't know.
I'm interested in ERVs. Particularly:
-What influences insertion-point selection (doesn't sound conclusively random)?
-How do we conclude an ERV was passed down the "evo tree", vs indep infections?
mikebForJesus 2 years ago
Being as I don't know what a good chunk of the things you mentioned in your post are, I have no way to comment on those things. I have an overall knowledge of evolution, but I'm lacking in the details. These things you're talking about sound like something that should be directed at someone who's an expert in that area. If I understand your first point then I'd it doesn't seem any more implausible that that is random than anything else. Evolution IS difficult to conceptualize.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
Essentially, do progressive DNA changes happen, & if so, are they fast enough to support GTE?
Ya, randomness really puts me at odds with abiogenesis. I currently reject it, but if it occurred, it is the ONLY example of increasing order & specified complexity we've observed in the natural world.
Could God have "seeded" the universe in such a way so as to grow life over immense time spans? Of course; I just don't think He did.
mikebForJesus 2 years ago
All kinds of DNA changes happen, and they happen with great frequency. It's pretty much statistically guaranteed that some will be good, some neutral, and some bad. The good ones survive because the criteria that determines if they are good is solely based on how well they help survival. Bad ones can survive too, like Huntingtons. Some are also statistically guaranteed to affect areas previously affected by mutations. We've seen this in insects, larger orgs don't reproduce fast enough though
LanceDirk 2 years ago
Lastly, I think the user cdk007 has very good, clear videos explaining how abio very easily could have happened (we don't know how it DID happen, but we've pretty much proven it's possible.) Also, it's wrong to say it's the only example of increasing order we observe. The formation of stars, solar systems, and galaxies is one. The formation of heavy elements and complex molecules is another. Life simply builds on these processes.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
Unless you are contesting the notion that it's even possible for the DNA responsible for these mechanisms to have have occurred and propagated naturally, then I think the perceived likelihood can be done away with. Humans are simply not able to conceive of time on an evolutionary scale, and as such cannot judge the likelihood of something evolving. Remember, also, there is not only one possible evolutionary path, just whatever trait happens to emerge first is what is built upon.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
Thx, you're right, it's actually two objections I'm making:
1) We haven't seen cumulative, unequiv, beneficial mutations occur, so such progression is speculative at this point, vs empirical.
2) Even if it CAN occur, it must surely be too slow to accomplish microbes to man.
You're probably right @ our understanding of deep time, but I also reject bya for other reasons. So I'm a YEC, but willing to discuss it.
mikebForJesus 2 years ago
1) They don't have to be unequiv beneficial, only more beneficial than harmful. Also, it seems to me like all mutations are cumulative, considering they either alter existing traits or create new traits in addition to existing ones. To me, a mutation that's not cumulative is one that erases traits and essentially regresses along the evolutionary path.
2) Again, I don't see what you're basing that one. Evolution definitely has moved much faster than it does now at different eras in history.
LanceDirk 2 years ago 2
I still think life is unique, but I think that people are often in error when they for some reason think that it's a rule of this universe that thinks go from being in order to being in disorder, or from complexity to simplicity. It's just not how it works. The 2nd law of thermodynamics is often misinterpreted as saying this.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
"but at a rate too low to achieve current diversity in 3.5 bya." No, don't think so. I'm curious what you're basing that on. Because we live in a pretty stable in environment, with a large interbreeding population, many changes will get filtered out. Also mutations are not usually unequivocally beneficial, most are minute but it's wrong to say none are at least somewhat beneficial. Also, because of sexual selection and genetic drift, not all even have to be beneficial.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
Earthquakes and floods and tidal waves and all the rest shape the planet and move stuff around for a reason. The real problem is stupid humans attempting to live near them, beside them or on top of them.
spunright 2 years ago
They don't shape or move the planet for a "reason," they just are a natural result of spinning living planet.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
Well mouth hole can be used for breathing but ideally the nose is most efficient. The mouth option comes in handy while swimming. The mechanism that controls the airway and esophagus is remarkable in design. If you were designing the next human would you provide two openings for air and food?
spunright 2 years ago
This one I actually agree with the video on. I think it is unfortunate that choking can impede breathing, as it is something that can happen so easily. If it only impeded swallowing, it would be far less urgent and could be dealt with more times, especially when children put things in their mouths.
LanceDirk 2 years ago
What is wrong with the knees design? Unless you play football or are a gymnast you can expect excellent performance until the end of life.
spunright 2 years ago 2
The other issues regarding potatoes and coconuts seem foolish. Throughout nature there are defense mechanisms to protect fruit and plants from insects and weather etc. So humans learned how to cook and make knives to get around it. God create man with reasoning powers to cope.
spunright 2 years ago
"..reasoning powers to cope."
Nicely said. Isn't it amazing how in the image of God, the created can create?
Additionally regarding the environment, I actually agree with the left on being better stewards of our planet (although probably f/ diff reasons), whether or not we are contributing to global warming.
mikebForJesus 2 years ago
Four corners well look at the greek word in the verse mentioned. The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is gonia. The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. Another interpretation is extent. So it is not clear from the text that the author believed the Earth was flat. There are other Bible passages that use words like "the circle of the Earth".
spunright 2 years ago
From Wiki
"Urine and sperm never leave the penis at the same time. When a man ejaculates, the passageway for the urine is closed. When a man urinates, the passageway for the semen is closed. Ejaculation and urination can not happen at the same time. " Would you want another dangling appendage just to keep the functions separate?
spunright 2 years ago
Male nipples are part of the sexual stimulation process . Both male and female are stimulated by touching the nipples during arousal therefore face to face i.e. normal heterosexual male female position is encouraged.
spunright 2 years ago
Great video. Keep up the good work.
vivalaleta 2 years ago
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This is actually funny if this is fake. I find it quite sad that a human who is old enough to use a computer actually seems to miss how each one of those "facts" are overly simplified. If you were to actually analyze the knee for example you would see that it actually is quite amazing how we are designed. There is cartilage in our joints to prevent them from "pounding" together, at least until we age, which is natural.I would rather not think a moron could really believe this.
DefionsBride 2 years ago
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I'd like to ask the VERY intelligent glentleman here!
Wher did he read in the Bbible that said the Earth was flat!!!
Please show the chapter and verse!!!
Your reasoning is flawed my friend!
eufalobrasileiro100 2 years ago
Revelations 7:1
"After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth..."
Spheres tend not to have four corners. Quadrilaterals do.
Sorabjian 2 years ago 16
@Sorabjian Since you like the book of Revelation you should pay attention to this verse.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
progressfabbrian 1 year ago
if you beilieve in ID then can you explain to me why your average human only uses 10-25 % of their brain in the entire lifetime?
3rdeyeful 2 years ago
The average human uses different parts of their brain at different times for different tasks. And there is no such thing as junk DNA. The human brain is the most complex machine in the known universe.
Despite all the factual errors I found this quite funny.
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
That's actually a myth, humans use 100% of their brain
tolchock1984 2 years ago
Moronic Design has more credibility than intelligent design.
People who believe in intelligent design are Morons.
They accept it without evidence.
People who believe in Moronic design are questioning the Creator's (if one exists) ability to design.
tranquility4all 2 years ago
makes sense I what would I call myself if I believed in moronic design a moronist
Hazard590 2 years ago
it is good to question religion. without questions, we wuld all be conformists. But the only thing I would disagree with your presentation is that mouth is not the only hole for breathing. We breathe through our nose. ;o)
nonameisavailable 2 years ago
but they use the same hole. try breathing and swallowing at the same time.
systematic101 2 years ago 2
I stand corrected.
nonameisavailable 2 years ago
HAHahhaHAHAHahahAHHAA THIS VIDEO IS 110% TRUE! I TELL PPL THIS ALL THE TIME!!! HAHAHA NO JOKE!!!
but this video did fail in ONE area... it FORGOT to mention...ANAL PUBES and STUBBORN...DINGLE BERRIES.. YUUKKK!!!!!!!!!!
God bless!
LordHines420 2 years ago
Wow this proved nothing.
If this video tried to disprove creation it kinda didn't
lemartravis1 2 years ago
Come on and catch a ride on the almighty's short bus!
hollyfromdallas 2 years ago 2
Yay. Very funny. My own take is - why design a world where everything has to eat everything else? Why not invent an intelligent creature that simply takes the energy it needs straight from the sun?
God sure is a dumb-ass.
Oceanus57 2 years ago
fyi THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DARWINISM!!!!! please stop using retarded creationist terminology,
MattChez 2 years ago
like saying "ain't" isn't a word, people use it, know what it means, and know how to spell it, therefore, it stands as a word, just as darwinism
TSDZpresident 2 years ago