Female Sexual Objectification - Porn Star Jesse Jane's Breast Surgery

[zerocool00045073]

im guessing the Porn busters crew are all fat lesbians? Some girls arent blessed with big boobs, if and if it makes them feel and look better, then let them do it. Jesus...

[JoinPornBusters]

People like you once again prove why a channel like ours exists.

Did it make you feel better writing this?

Zero Cool, at least your name matches your content.

[tpaina380]

she had sex with himf or it they banged the fucked each othr look at how they act hes horny loo hes happy as hell he raped her when she was asleep

[Techno1q]

The doctor is totally unprofessional.

"Sexy" "Perfect", Where the hell did he get his degree? (Which stupid actually approved of him as a surgeon)

88style83

You got to be kidding me

please tell me you're not comparing men who goes into the army and women who gets breast enlargement. cause if you are serious, WOW.

[JoinPornBusters]

Thank you, Techno1q, for addressing these points.

Some comments I can't be bothered to reply to.

It's like teaching an adult that 1+1=2. Only to then still not get it.

CPC

[88style83]

What about men who take steroids to impress women? Or do they lack the proper genitalia to warrant your sympathy?

Or men who join the army out of low self-esteem? Or because it's the law?

[IAmElisabeth1]

here, i have daddy issues, please approve of me, because deep down inside i am insecure *takling form personal experience as well*

[IAmElisabeth1]

i bet the douche bag is so happy to have this job to touch women's breasts and to tell them they're ugly.

[IAmElisabeth1]

pick at their own body? how about we realize we are all beautiful how we are, how we were made is unique and we are beautiful.

[sexsexboy]

whats the hell this do with porn

[nosleraccubond]

I'll take real over "store bought" everytime.

[lalala12366]

why is this on youtube.......i thought that only cool stuff worth watching was on youtube...oh and by the way....that guy wasnt gay...i saww him practicly drool over her breast....get a life....i thought this was educational, and that they wuld show how she got the operation done...well i was definately wrong....they're just talkn bout her do this for a PORN show.......ive also noticed that she was comfortable being naked in front of him.....shes obviously had some experience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JoinPornBusters]

Lalala12366: Not sure if you meant the original video or the one made by JPB (me). Obviously I am critiquing the motivations a women (in this case, a porn star) undergoes surgery. The fact that the original clip is so absurd made it even more suitable for the purpose of this channel.

[mid1394]

GOD DON'T MAKE MISTAKES

[ashleytisdald]

breast surgens should b girls

[superchang847]

do you honestly think this woman cares?

i agree with you that people shouldn't feel the need to do this... but this woman doesn't need it she WANTS it. and sge can AFFORD it.

this woman even if she is insicure (of which i'm not convinced) seems happy about all the things she is doing.

natural breasts ftw but i'm not gunna stop people thinking otherwise.

[bigeyedfish0041]

Porn didn't make her this stupid and useless. Being a cum dumpster is really all some people are worth.

[JoinPornBusters]

BigEyedFish: So you're admitting here that women in porn are "worth being a cum dumpster"? Meaning that they are objects? That they are worthless? Not human?

Just like I thought a porn proponent would argue.

This is why this channel exists. Because of attitudes like yours.

[narutoman1313]

i really dont get why you would try an abolish something thats been around for thousands of years. people get into porn for some of the common reasons being money..they like sex, easy job

while others ive seen get into the buisness for different reasons an example of one being a women got into porn to be able to keep a roof over her little brothers head and food on the table which seems like a pretty good reason to me ..and vise versa for one male in porn with his son

[JoinPornBusters]

Narutoman:

Porn stars "like sex, easy money"????

It is easy to get INTO porn as you only need a body! But doing the ACTUAL JOB is a whole different story, as many famous porn stars (e.g. Jameson, Lords, Lubben) testify in their books!

Getting into porn to feed a family is a "good reason to get into porn"???

Whhoooaaa......I'm speechless.....How can you say this so lightly?!?

Let's just hope YOU will never be in that situation. I don't wish it on anyone.

CPC

[JDubs878]

Relatively speaking fucking for money isn't a super tough job you know. As a pornstar or a hooker, earning hundreds or even thousands for maybe a few hours work isn't all that bad compared to earning the same amount in days or in a whole week.

Also when you have no money to feed your kids, do you not think you'd try almost anything to earn some cash? For women, they're lucky that they can earn money this way if its a last resort. Men have to resort to begging and even crime.

[JoinPornBusters]

JDubs:

Again, read the mentioned BOOKS to inform yourself about "fucking for money"!

You're saying yourself that porn is a "last resort for women"!! That they're "lucky". All of which is sounds contradictory.

According to your logic, porn consumers exploit women's misery. Why defend an industry based on misery, then?

To view women who end of as porn actresses "lucky" over men who go begging or do crime is outrageous. By the way, prostitution = illegal = criminal. "Porne" (Greek) = prostitute.

[JDubs878]

Regarding any books about fucking for money, just because some women were forced into it or didn't enjoy it doesn't mean ALL women hated it

Much like just because THOUSANDS of priests fucked alterboys it means the rest of the priests in the world did the same. So stop fucking assuming every woman is 'exploited' OK?

Just because YOU think porn = exploitation and is immoral doesn't mean the rest of the world does. That's why before porn there were orgies and sex clubs and other live sex venues.

[msgirl82]

she is so on drugs

[msgirl82]

she is so on drug!

[Lovelastiing]

i think she blowjobed too much. Notice her mouth when she talks. LOL its like so loose. haha.

[JDubs878]

I enjoy watching porn, but it pains me to see MANY previously NATURALLY HOT women turn into Frankensteins after a few years in the porn industry.

Jenna Jameson, Alektra Blue and Tawny Roberts are just three examples who when they just started porn, they were all very hot and natural, but after a few years or in Jenna's case a number of years, they all got really bad implants and who knows what other surguries that make them look worse.

I just wish women would think twice before doing anything

[JoinPornBusters]

In a highly competitive market such as the porn industry, women are (and feel) pressured to manipulate their bodies to appeal to most men's desires. It's an inherent part of the industry.

I wish men would think twice about getting into porn.

If it "pains you" to see women abuse their bodies through surgery, then why do you enjoy watching them get abused in porn?

[TatianalyT]

Then why are so many of the biggest porn stars these days priding themselves on NOT being all barbie doll plastic??

Girls like Jenna Haze and Belladonna and Sasha Grey are pretty much the biggest names around now and they are the complete opposite (and more successful)..

Just pointing out that kinda contradicts what you are saying - Sorry!!!

[DarkSta77]

TatianalyT - Because porn is pretty much a reflection of how wide the aesthetic of sexual attraction is. Despite what some would have us believe there is a much broader appeal than the "barbie doll plastic" look as you correctly point out.

Sadly though this will always be seized as an example of women trying to conform to a "ideal male standard". Personally I feel that most people will (through exercise, fashion etc) attempt to reach a personal ideal that makes them feel attractive to themselves

[smilebig1337]

People in nearly all markets have to make sacrifices to succeed. For instance, I know many people who have had to move to other countries for their jobs. This is no less of a sacrifice, but they chose it. Similarly, women in porn choose to make the sacrifices. Oh and "watching them get abused in porn" is not entirely accurate. Not all porn is S&M. In fact, the majority of porn is not. So to say that women get abused in all porn, as was the implication, is a bit overboard.

[JoinPornBusters]

Smilebig: The 'routine' injuries that women sustain through porn are NOT ABUSE!?! Rectal bleeding? Vaginal bleeding? Cervical damage? Cancer of the mentioned areas? Bruising all over the body and private (yeah right) parts? Rape on "closed sets"?

It's amazing how easily this term "choice" gets thrown around here. It suits people who don't want to learn about the authentic reasons women get into this business.

CPC

[JDubs878]

Please, stop with the fucking broad paintbrush.

No doubt many women get abused, but why are you completely overlooking the FACT that many women go into porn willingly and perhaps even God forbid *ENJOY DOING IT* and like their 15mins of fame?

Have you ever been to a porn convention before? Probably not right? Because if you have, I defy you to find me one female pornstar in those events that would tell you that they were forced into the business and couldn't get out.

[JDubs878]

Yes women sometimes are pressured to change their bodies in porn, but it doesn't mean they have to do it. I've seen plenty of women keep their original body during their porn career.

Perhaps women themselves are insecure and hence get that boobjob etc to try and feel better about themselves, even though they don't need it.

Also not all women get abused in porn and it turns people on, so why deny people the pleasure of watching something that is natural to humans?

[JoinPornBusters]

JDubs878: Women aren't "sometimes" pressured to change their bodies in porn!! It certainly is the norm!

You're right, women definitely are insecure, hence the surgeries. I think this is evident from this video, as well as the nature of pornography! So why perpetuate this by cosuming porn?

Your last point: To claim that porn is "natural to humans" is absurd! Sex yes, porn no! The 2 are independent matters! Please visit AntiPornographyBlog to educate yourself on this topic!

CPC

[JDubs878]

I think some women are pressured to change their bodies, but most do it out of insecurity. And like I said, there are many pornstars that keep their original bodies through their career.

And you're wrong. Porn IS natural. That's why there's voyerism and ppl have enjoyed watching other ppl fuck and you get orgies and such.

Where before one had to look through a window to watch ppl having sex, you now watch it on TV, but watching ppl having sex has been around FOREVER!

[DarkSta77]

Some thoughts on sexual objectification.

Feminist author Camille Paglia holds that "Turning people into sex objects is one of the specialties of our species." In her view, objectification is closely tied to (and may even be identical with) the highest human faculties toward conceptualization and aesthetics.

Feminist Wendy McElroy holds that the label "sex object" means nothing because inanimate objects are not sexual. She continues that women are their bodies as well as their minds and souls.

[JoinPornBusters]

Well, I disagree with the feminists you mention, but thanks for discussing.

"Objectification = Highest human faculty towards conceptualization & aesthetics"? I can't follow one bit.

As for McElroy, her logic seems completely twisted. Obviously, every being has physical, mental & spiritual (less obvious) qualities. This doesn't mean that all 3 qualities are respected in pornography. The point of the term 'sex object' is that only a person's physical & behavioral qualities are viewed.

[DarkSta77]

Eduard Spranger defined eroticism as "aesthetic love which is directed to sensible grace or virile appearance" All pronounced aesthetics, he believed, were markedly erotic. Paglia takes that one step further by holding that to "objectify" a person sexually is indeed a higher order, uniquely human trait.

In layman's terms objectification forms the aesthetic basis for sexual attraction and desire, and as such, should not be simply discounted as shallow and degrading

[DarkSta77]

I think you will find that what McElroy is getting at is that the 3 qualities that you mention are essentially inseparable. A woman has a right to be admired for her body or physical prowess as they are just as much a part of her as her mind or her belief structures.

Thomas Szasz, Professor of Psychiatry Emeritus, State University of New York said of McElroys writing "(She) eloquently exposes and courageously opposes the evil naïveté of the currently fashionable anti-pornography movement"

[manpreetsingh9243]

how ugly lippering style does this porn star has, ouckk

[GivenWillingly]

lol i love how the surgeon says the breasts of a porn actress are like the face of an actress. As if the face would be completely unimportant for being a porn actress (sadly this is true for most porn stars). Personally I'd rather have a pretty face with uneven breasts than a buttaface.

[shagkon]

I hate this feministic shit. Everebody do whatever they want. But if you see black\woman\gay\bisexual there is always dumbasses talking about some sort of discrimination.

[TimEmilNielsen]

i like cock

[andrtaker]

the western media really fcked up our world and brainwashed most people... i pity this world

[CUNNINGSURPRISE]

The last part where he said a breath of fresh air and then seeing her laid out made me laugh so hard

[CUNNINGSURPRISE]

Why are they bloccking out her breasts, you can find her fucking a guy anywhere on the net. Weve seen it all before!

[crylo2000]

Now he needs to fix her bottom lip. What's up with that?

[karenlopez109]

haha..."breath of fresh air" you know i think thats a whole bunch of BULLSHIT

[pebi86]

???

was this a human??

looks scary!!

[iamgoddard]

Some relevant overview data (one has to wonder if porn becoming more popular with women might drive this increase):

"The American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS) reported that 329,396 women have undergone breast augmentation in the United States, an increase of 55% between 2000 and 2006, making it the most frequent US surgical cosmetic procedure for 2006 (ASPS, 2007)."

at pubmed(dot)com enter: 19499438

[skeeter3456]

lol, who made this vid?

[ALEClovesGENIALMUSIC]

I am in a minority of eterosexual men 'cause ... I dislike big breasts, and I deeply dislike fake big ones. My female myth is Drew Barrymore who made a reduction surgery. Obviously there are risks in reduction surgery as well, but at least nothing can deteriorate months later. People like me are increasing. Fake big boobs are more & more boring. I can understand a breasts surgery if she comes from real flat ones and ends with normal size looking ones, to cure a real complex and nothing more.

[JoinPornBusters]

Thank you Alec, the world needs men like you to speak out more!

PS: I knew you love Draw Barrymore :) Didn't know about her reduction surgery!

[jlspma]

@ALEClovesGENIALMUSIC Me too.

[flashman2012]

It will be better when people can grow their own breasts without need for implants. when that day comes, again it will be almost always women pressuring other women for the surgery, from their catty gossiping to their womens magazines.

[TheAkmurda]

the last 5 seconds sums up the video.

[necromancer1231]

that doctor gary is soo lucky

he saw jesse janes boobs

[chocolatepoundcake]

Necro: You really got the point of this video, huh?

[Bigjuan15]

A challenge to all the "men" that are looking around for some

[WarRogers]

Oh yes, many's the day I've stood in front of the mirror and thought, "If only I had two peeled oranges on my chest with a bizarre gap down the middle I'd feel so much better about myself." lmao. Hey sweetheart, if you really wanna feel better about yourself, try getting OUT of the porn industry. It should work wonders. Incidentally, that nagging self-critique is your unconscious mind calling you an idiot!

[GoldensGirl1]

oops wrong button

[GoldensGirl1]

It looks like oranges have been stuffed underneath her skin...that gap down the middle of them when she showing the dr is really weird too.

[MrJpogo1]

i got hot vids! click my name! free vids!

[iamgoddard]

In google image, search the terms

male model

Is it really a surprise to folks here that what we see are sleek, cut and fit men? I can't believe it's a surprise. Switch the gender and you'll see the same, sex-prototypical physiques.

The idea that women are uniquely bombarded with an ideal body type is simply false and completely dissolves any coherent definition of 'oppression', making it as if Jesse's chosen breast job is somehow analogous forced female genital mutilation.

[JoinPornBusters]

- Women have been modifying their bodies & behaviors to suit males for much longer & in more extreme ways than vice versa. Should men now 'choose' to modify their bodies in similar ways, then it can't be looked at in isolation from sexism already in place. Do you understand the saying WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND, as in cause&effect?

A more intense version of sexism backfiring on men can be seen in the male gay movement.

- Do more males or females commit rape & violence? And WHY is this so?

[iamgoddard]

But I don't see men feeling oppressed by 'male objectification', except some TFL guys. I've spent a lot of my life striving for the 'male body' driven by the stereotype. But that's not sexual oppression.

Consider too that in the mating game, men have to not only also look good, but typically show a high-paying job. And why not? Any smart woman looking for a partner should want her children to have a stable financial base.

Sexual mating entails certain sex-specific criteria people try to meet.

[nuclearnight]

Whoa, thanks for translating. I know when watching those things without the proper context my brain feels like it's going to explode.

My heart breaks for Jesse Jane.

[antiquelens]

WOW.

That was insane and eyeopening.

The doctor was ridiculous and the woman was so out of touch with reality. It's sooo sad.

Thanks for the vid.

[iamgoddard]

It's not obvious that female modification is oppression since men are also pressured to modify their bodies. Here's an objective test, Googleing these phrases:

"penis enlargement" returns 3,160,000

"breast enlargement" returns 1,480,000

"breast enhancement" returns 1,770,000

So "penis enlargement" is almost 3X more prevalent. So body-mod is not patriarchal.

Girls are being enslaved, mutilated and murdered the world over because they're female. That's a *real* issue:

watch?v=rACj2_7_orY

[amhemsley]

Google searches don't mean anything as it has no connection to the number of surgical procedures that take place. In 2007 91% of all plastic surgery were carried out on women. And of the 9% carried out on men penis enlargement didn't even make the top five.

Men don't have the size of their penis constantly pressed on them as an issue but women can't turn on the TV or open a magazine without being subjected to society's unrealistic expectations of them.

[JoinPornBusters]

Thank you, amhemsley, well said.

[iamgoddard]

amhemsley, fair point about numbers, and breasts are also a publicly visible feature, putting more pressure on to modify them.

But there are many male body-mod methods, most of which can be achieved by weightlifting and steroids, not surgery.

But a numbers game isn't the point. Selling body-mod is not a sexist conspiracy, and neither is ideal physique. The idea that a woman's rights are violated if her neighbor wants breast enhancement is just bizarre.

Let women be adults and make decisions.

[amhemsley]

None of the male body modifications are the result of a female driven society placing those expectations on men.

However the female body modifications are a direct result of a male driven society placing their wants upon women. Women are constantly hounded to change the way they look and even their bodies to fit in with the wants of men in a way men never feel.

The two are on such different levels they are none comparable.

[iamgoddard]

amhemsley wrote: "None of the male body modifications are the result of a female driven society placing those expectations on men."

Prove with data that male body modifications (including those affected by fitness programs) are not driven by anticipated female preference for the modifications.

Prove with data that there is no ideal male body image (ie, 'male objectification') promoted by media.

Anyone and just claim anything. But sound claims are backed by data and/or falsification criteria.

[amhemsley]

Says the guy who proves things with google searches.

I didn't claim male body image was not affected by women, but that it was not constantly forced upon them the way it is on women.

[iamgoddard]

amhemsley: "None of the male body modifications are the result of a female driven society placing those expectations on men."

A meta-analysis found "women rate muscular men as sexier" and "muscular men rate their bodies as sexier to women" (pubmed(dot)com enter: 17578932).

Another study found men worry about penis size (18987089). And another found that the more sexually experienced a women, the more she valued penis length and girth (16502148).

Female preference surely drives male body mods.

[amhemsley]

Again, men are not having penis enlargements on mass due to the media, women ARE having breast enlargements on mass due to the media. Men have only 9% of all plastic surgery. They are not having an unrealistic image pushed on the like women are.

[iamgoddard]

amhemsley wrote: "Men have only 9% of all plastic surgery. They are not having an unrealistic image pushed on the like women are."

But since male muscularity is primarily enhanced by weightlifting and chemicals, looking only at plastic surgery presents a biased selection of data to support the claim of sexual bias in objectification.

[JoinPornBusters]

Why quote amhemsley on a response to YOU earlier, reg. penis vs. breast enlargement, therefore out of context? There was no debate around weightlifting until later.

Your comment has already been addressed below as well.

[iamgoddard]

You're wrong JoinPornBusters, I just quoted amhemsley's last reply to me.

Just click on 'view all comments' to see the thread's sequence. So your accusation again me is wrong.

Moreover, only I mentioned weightlifting previously, and he never acknowledged it, so he didn't even debate it. So there aren't even any relevant weightlifting comments of his for me to have omitted.

The obvious impression is that testing the theories put forth in this video is not welcome.

[JoinPornBusters]

Yesterday, chocolatepoundcake addressed your comment on weightlifting, hence there was the beginning of a debate.

Stop accusing people of accusing you & the porn industry (this & the other vid), it's getting silly.

Re: your last point: What %age of female porn viewers are male? Which gender sets the visual standards of most porn? THIS IS part of the theories in our video. Maybe your senses are impaired, going by your 'obvious impression'.

[alvin01]

But Men ARE partly having penis surgery due to Women ,what Women say and how they react to well hung Men. Just as Women want Men to react to them like they do to big breasted Women.

[amhemsley]

But they're not. The number is so small it doesn't even make it into the top five procedures men have. While breast enlargement is the most carried out plastic surgery in the world.

The two are so far apart they're non-comparable.

[alvin01]

Breast enlargement sugery is ONE of the most carried out plastic surgeries. There are 5 ,as you know. Of the 11.7 million people who underwent plastic surgery the google info i read doesnt state percent of Women to Men. Anyhow I wasnt comparing %'s of Men's surgery to Women, the point I am making is penis enlargment's are of course in some cases carried to impress Women, Men's partners , to achieve the same esteem boosting effect Women get from surgery. Men like to impress Women too.

[chocolatepoundcake]

Neither I nor ANY, and I repeat ANY, females I have known has EVER mentioned she's want a man with a big penis, even when talking about what we desire in men.

So your general statement does not apply to my experiences as the woman I am. I don't know who & where these women are.

Now, in all honesty, how many men can say the same with respect to breast size?

[alvin01]

1)That's fine ,if you have not had that experience. I know personally several Women as friends who will bring up the issue of well hung Men/penis size & get very graphic whenever they are together & in front of me or other Men without a care in the world .They don't have the fear of appearing sexist or guilty like alot of Men will feel like(maybe rightly so)nowadys openly discussing Women's breasts or weight. PLENTY of Women talk about size.Michelle Wallace's book' Black Macho &...'

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[alvin01]

2)...in Her book described being shocked (book was written back in the 70's) at how openly Her White female friends discussed Black Men purely because of penis size & alleged prowess. I find todays Women are much the same when discussing dating, size IS mentioned. There is NO mercy spared for guys with small willies. That is also widely represented in some of todays most popular TV show's. Regularly.

[chocolatepoundcake]

I'm shocked to hear this. On the other hand, it is hardly surprising considering how incredibly superficial many people are, male or female. I'm glad that I'm different, and that I know that not all women are like that (the ones I've mentioned).

[alvin01]

I am encouraged to hear some Women, like you, are different. Thats great news! Also quite surprised at your shock to hear you have no experiences of Women objectifying Men at all in the way Men do. I think also that it is possible being a Woman that you may not notice it as much as you do sexism towards Women(I don't know that(?)it's just a thought).That would be perfectly natural, and is not a criticism.Self esteem issues & Reverse sexism are alive & well & affecting plenty of Men out there.

[chocolatepoundcake]

I've definitely come across & participated in pointing out 'male flaws' in behaviour & character. Physical things are talked about at times, but not in too clichee terms, IMO. E.g., 1 woman may like long hair on a guy, another little (natural) body hair, etc. No preferring big penises, muscles, waxing, etc.

I'm just speaking for myself & those I've talked with.

You may be right with your point about not noticing as much. But I also think it has to do with my careful selection of friends.

[chocolatepoundcake]

iamgoddard:

Couldn't view your 3rd reference (how?)

The first two are understandable.

1. Muscle is more attractive than fat on ANYONE as it generally indicative of health, male or female. Also, muscle can be grown by anyone (vs. implanted), as opposed to breasts. One CAN take steroids, but enlargement is easy without, unlike breast size.

2. Obviously men feel insecure about penis size when being porn consumers. Not saying that ALL are, but many are, even young teenagers, from what I've learned.

[JoinPornBusters]

It strikes me that this is all you have to say about the many points in the video.

It is scary when people rely on GOOGLE to represent reality.

It's also scary that you, after this video, don't consider the points made 'real issues'.

You are welcome to make a video on 'Male Sexual Objectification' with respect to penis enlargement...although I would still argue that this trend is only part of instant karma.

[iamgoddard]

@JoinPornBusters, I'm pointing out that you've not prove that 'female objectification' is unique and thus sexist oppression.

Consider that 'female vote prohibition' was sexist oppression because the same did not apply to men. So I'm telling you what you need to support or reject your theory. You need to prove sex specificity.

Re google, gives a rough estimate of contemporary society. If you posit that saying x is more prevalent in society than y, chances are google will give an indication.

[decodung]

that doctor is a monster

[sCeNeXgIrL94]

goddd shes kinda ugly

did she have surgery on her face too? i mean..she could be prettier

[JoinPornBusters]

It would make sense. Porn people make a lot of money, but they also put much of it back into their job through 'maintenance & upgrading'.

I agree, her features look very artificial, like a grotesque character (which she plays).

[sCeNeXgIrL94]

why does she do that though? god..and her .. ehhh well.. yeah i know but she.. how old is she?

[AntiPornographyBlog]

GREAT video! :-) You totally exposed porn star Jesse Jane's "breast enhancement" plastic surgery for what it is: total insanity! You skillfully countered every ridiculous, sexist statement by Jesse & her exploitative plastic surgeon perfectly. Your research & references are thorough, professional & extremely helpful. Thanks SO much for speaking out against the rampant sexism & destructiveness of both porn & plastic surgery. I hope many people watch & learn from your amazing work. 5+ stars! :-)

[JoinPornBusters]

Thank you so much, APB!

There are always more things that could have been said, retrospectively. And I don't always know at what point it would be too much.

Your support & comment means a lot to me!!!

CPC