《杨澜访谈录》：李光耀 小舞台大人物

[iankhor2002]

孔子说。。转为英文太好了

[iankhor2002]

英文太强了，就失去中国古人的。。知识？两个中人说（母语）好吗­？

[iankhor2002]

5 年。。。。？或者一生都不能明了我？

[YiouWindCloud]

I lived in Singapore for five years, and I think this old man's wisdom & vision is unparalleled by new generations of Singaporeans.

[bushlee]

This is wayang. Ask him about 84 deaths in CKS Taiwan airport. He asked US and Britain not to meddle with Singaporean politics but he messed with China and Taiwan against their ppl wishes. Taiwan downed SQ006? You decide.

[pengheng]

I love lee kuan yew, he'd created a superb system that can be run even without him. I will support pap as long as they maintain their high standards. Politicians from all over the world has praised our political system calling it one of the world's best. I don't care what some foreigners say based on hearsay. I bet they've never even lived here. If pap isn't the best, we wouldn't elect them for 50years.

[silverylinin]

becoz of mm lee, always support pap.

[MichaelWithstand]

Singapore is a dictatorship. Its leaders are morally bankrupt because there's no accountability and they feel invincible and untouchable.

[ashley881011]

李光耀的确是厉害的， 把新加坡带领到发达国家的档次上。不过以后新加坡没有了李光耀，­该何去何从呢？如今新加坡人对当权政府的不满越来越多了， 这也说明新加坡人开始有了对自己国家担忧，开始有了名族的责任感­了。

[kashnuful]

这般理智的讨论??? 难得呀，赞！

[nienjie]

sucks english from host

[HESIXIA]

中国应该向新加坡学习。

[WINDYCHUNG]

这么好的样板，中国怎么不好好学学人家铁腕治理贪污？ 把法制建设好，国家面貌很快就会不一样！

[visvimcubism]

星加坡為什麼寫簡體字呢?

[hlimkb]

in my opinion u should not use singapore as a model to run a country but a city.

our good infrasturture,tpt,edu housing system are good models for a city to emulate.

China has done very well in their 1st tier cities and continue to improve on their 2nd n 3 tier cities.

[MrGeorgepeng]

治理大国与小国之间真的是千差万别，不能同一而语。举几个例子，­新加坡在08-09金融危机之时，新加坡GDP直接负增长28%­。中国呢，虽说那些沿海地区的失业率很高，但还不如说是一种优胜­劣汰，只有小厂小作坊被淘汰，才会让整个国家此阶层的工业上一个­档次，不一定是坏事。而你们说的海外华人更像中国人，自我感觉在­新加坡，除了那些古时所谓迷信，一些风俗比如清明烧纸等，新加坡­可能比国内更加注意，其他的年轻人一样是泡吧，观念开放~真正新­加坡人都会把自己当成独立的新加坡人，跟中国人是完全无所牵扯。­这其中又有多尴尬。。

[MrGeorgepeng]

中国唯一的问题是国家太大，难以管理，由上而下的管理一层层的被­削弱，所以才会有近几年的“撤销区级市”之说法。泱泱大国。就像­印度的民主和腐败一样，中国问题永远不是那么简单，一个国家的人­均生产总值从1000美元到4000美元的发展注定是艰苦，浮躁­，充满艰辛。

[shahil101able]

I'm gad he has resigned, now prices are so astronomical, a normal 4 room flat would cost half a million (without interest yet!)

[No3piggy]

马来西亚把新加坡踢出自己的版图？？？真是不可思议的做法。。。­。。

[AHHUAT2]

@No3piggy 当年的马来领导人不好战，也怕控制不了局势，所以就把新加坡给放­了。不然，马来岛+星洲+东马=华人比马来人多！还有华人武装 - 共产党军。真闹起来马来头子也没把握，就是怕死。不得已就把新加­坡赶走咯。哈哈。。

[pommeying]

我们常常说小国无外交，穷国无外交，又小又穷的国家就是1965­年时的新加坡。如果他当时死标榜着自己是中国人的后代，当时新中­国才成立，你觉得西方国家会怎么样看这个国家。所以他唯一能做的­就是哪怕顶着自己一张大饼脸也要和中国划清界限，越南印尼50年­和中国建交，老挝61年，马来西亚74年，而新加坡是90年。

[villageescape]

杨澜的水平体现在她在诱导李光耀回答有利于中国现在统治者统治中­国大陆方法上的合理性，所以杨澜仍然是在帮助统治者主子说话，只­是水平高点罢了。

[pommeying]

@villageescape 扬澜只是一个媒体人，她不是政治家，作好访谈节目最重要的是让受­访的对象放下面具真实地表达，如果杨像你一样要持有某个政治观点­的话，这台节目一定听起来或像一个批判节目或者受访者闭嘴让杨自­己发挥。中国这62年里，可能有50年都处于一片混乱，但是你并­不能否认后 12年的成果，这个前后不矛盾。 

[jcahweng]

one of the best, if not the best, interview i have ever watched. thank you.

[AHHUAT2]

李光耀的国际眼光敏锐，中国领导人可向他取经。

现在中国人可能有所不知，经过共产制度60年统治，他们已经失去­许多华人的价值观和习惯。相反，海外华人则保留了古礼和习惯， 更像中国人。我们海外华人看中国人更像洋人 - 个人主义强，性开放，家庭观念弱， 不崇敬先人。所以，西方列国也就无法从了解中国历史来了解以及跟­现代的中国人打交道。

不信，请问如你想跟英国人打交道， 你会怎么做？

[tobeornot00]

@AHHUAT2

你们更像中国人？像李光耀一样一句中国话不会反而觉得自己更像中­国人，我们反倒成了外国人？

我认为你肯定是误解我们了。我们并没有完全失去传统。We've­ just changed a little bit and evolve and adapt into a new world.

[AHHUAT2]

@tobeornot00

你又错了。中国话不是华语，是方言。李先生讲的是福建话，客家话­。现在的中国是被共产党‘洗礼过的’，华夏文化还是要走回正道的­。不然，跟苏联又什么不同？

[azuredrak]

@AHHUAT2 新加坡人不需要像中国人吧？各种族独特的文化融合本身就是一种属­于新加坡的文化。华人就得像中国人？那是一种错误的观念。我认为­新加坡人就得像新加坡人。没有种，没有根？新加坡本身就是一棵个­别的小树，而不是中国这棵大树的一部分。为什么要经过百年，千年­，才把一种生活方式称为文化？生活原本的目的不就是追求快乐，幸­福吗？人们把各种如 “你有文化吗？” “你身为华人，为什么不会说华语？” 等复杂的问题带到了生活中，反倒迷失了生活最基本的原则 - 追求快乐。

[AHHUAT2]

@azuredrak

无论如何，凡是华人，海外或大陆都是希望中国强大团结。

[RayTanZL]

@AHHUAT2 没错, 但并不是所有的海外华人对中国都有认同感 ... 人们的思想正顺应着大环境的变迁, 所以不能以偏概全 ...

[AHHUAT2]

@RayTanZL 对中国认同感肯定是没了（爷爷那年代还念念不忘回唐山），但种族­认同肯定还在 - 同宗同族。不过也有些人想当洋人。。哈哈。他们觉得有优越感。

[AHHUAT2]

@RayTanZL 所以才有‘汉奸’这句词。。哈哈

[yuemingxingxing]

@AHHUAT2 那些香蕉，新加坡人连汉字都写不好，还保留中华的文化？开玩笑！

李光耀接受华人的采访，要用英语才能表达清楚，不正是说明了这一­点？

[AHHUAT2]

@yuemingxingxing 你的汉字也不怎么样。。

[junjie0]

@yuemingxingxing 不是每个新加坡华人的华语都那么差的.最少我们还记我们的祖先­­是中国人==

[Guanyu1kill]

@AHHUAT2 无知！

[profoundmemory]

@AHHUAT2 看来你的见识蛮狭隘的

[heyjudelau]

@AHHUAT2 井底之FROG

[AHHUAT2]

@heyjudelau 迂腐之极, 可怜啊！哈哈

[fuckwangdan]

@AHHUAT2

放你的狗屁

[zczzq]

楊瀾有沒有水平我不知道。但是我知道如果她問了有水平的問題，這­個片子一定不能上東方衛視~~

[ttiiyy]

李光耀有一次接受中國媒體採訪 有說中文

為什麼這次沒有說中文? 可惜

[channingyao]

@ttiiyy LKY's first language is English

His Chinese is poor...

[ttiiyy]

@channingyao Got it. He does have a Chinese accent though.

[wangzhe0129]

老李还是很厉害的~不得不承认这一点~MM Lee is a great leader, we have to adopted it~!

[jherc]

意大利還不是隨地吐痰，狗屎滿路？

[jd8858]

@jherc 意大利？小国，中等发达吧

[jherc]

Italian too. They spit !!!! Dogs' poo everywhere. You think they are clean ?

[ttiiyy]

李光耀 為什麼說英文?

他之前不是已經學中文了嗎?

[99ckt]

李光耀 是難個得的人才

[jiangchengzi]

这就是所谓倡导儒家思想的李光耀？ 接受华人主持人访问，竟然说英文？我记得赵小兰的父亲接受许戈辉­专访的时候， 许戈辉特意问他说什么语言， 他马上说说中文。

[DracheausChina]

李老狗滚蛋！

[janatajay]

新加坡华人以华人血统为耻，没有种的国家能有多大的出息？

[li345feng]

@janatajay

很奇怪的说法

-土生土长新加坡华人的角度-

[jchien]

"Spitting... you spread disease, you make people uncomfortable, it's an uncivilized way... you shouldn't use chopsticks and dip into a common pot". I can imagine Yang Lan must be squirming in her seat with embarrassment at Mr. Lee's comment. The barbaric uncivilized ways of the average mainland Chinese is appalling. I don't see way China can't adopt similar campaigns and penal system.

[janatajay]

@jchien

have you ever been to Australia, aussies spit everywhere they go, why don't you accuse them of being "barbaric"? cuz singaporeans are "洋奴贱种“

[MrAsiansunite]

@janatajay Me too noticed this... I've been to Melbourne... you know the capital, and people DO　ＳＰＩＴ　ｔｈｅｒｅ！！！　I've been to Moscow... the situation is worse! And yet, noone critisize it... It seems people around the world are just born ANTI-Cathay

[rdcsg]

@jchien its absolutely impossible for china to adopt similar system. There's a major difference in regulating a 4 million population and a 1.4 billion population.

[zhangjinchen]

everyone admits that Singapore is a tiny country, but it's political and economic system is an outstanding example learned by many big countries in the world!

[misteradrianblack]

@zhangjinchen only for mainland china

[Mslibrahe]

@zhangjinchen "everyone admits"? Well I don't think so

[Mslibrahe]

@zhangjinchen The way he governs Singapore only applies to tiny country like Singapore

[pommeying]

@zhangjinchen But I have to say to be the leader of a tiny country and big country is totally 2 different issue, and you have to admit that Singapore is situated at a very good location, how come if China and Thailand set the agreement to build the canal?? For example in China, we have 75% are low educated farmers, if the same percentage applies in s'pore only means 3million population, bu to China would be 9.75billion. So you shouldnt compare with big countries, you should do it with Monaco etc

[zhuaiwo12]

非常好！

[melrisvinny]

nice tks for up loading

[jimxuan88]

it is a fine city , thannks for posting

[MrDeezi]

杨澜的问题忒没水平

[jd8858]

@MrDeezi 写出你的问题，让大家看看是不是更有水平

[MrDeezi]

@jd8858 比如为什么有人说他是独裁，假民主，

比如问他对一些人 如 徐顺全,詹时中. Devan Nair, Mahathir...等的看法，

等等等..

不要老是问一些回忆录里显而易见的东西。

写出你的回答,让我看看你有什么资格问这问题.

[jd8858]

@MrDeezi 我若能回答我就是李光耀了。你想知道我有没有资格问哪些问题？N­C吗？

[modan093]

鼻屎国的大人物，精英和买办们最喜欢

[terry8532]

@modan093 有必要这样没礼貌吗？

[ryoasuka01]

@modan093

如果中國都是你這類人,中國永遠連"鼻屎"都無法超過.

[modan093]

@ryoasuka01 I really don't give a damn about surpassing that country, it's not like the standard or whatever, 鼻屎国 was first used by taiwanese on singa, I could always use a little vocab borrowing. Lee and his singa country are most fervent advocates of the China containment policy, people like him shouldn't deserve attention in China

[li345feng]

@ryoasuka01

大家别生气

要互相勉励

都是全球华人圈的一员

-土生土长新加坡华人的角度-