Man has free will to believe or not to believe...For those who believe I hope that there is a place for you full of Love and happiness and for those Non believers the Dead is conscious of Nothing enjoy!
I've done my own reading and I've found that there's also a nice bit of untruth in the way the evidence for evolution is presented, so that you for all your comments but besides "pride", I find that evolution still ain't my cup of tea. Besides, if you trace evolution back to the beginning, where life supposedly came from a primordial soup, then evolution is really, chance. And I do not agree with that. Life originated by chance, right indeed. Common sense can tell you that ain't possible.
Well it doesn't really matter if it's your cup of tea. It's fact. And everything in the universe is made up by chance. Just take a Quantum Mechanics class and you'll quickly learn that. Evolution is no different. Its just pure dumb chance like everything else. Be glad that that chance sprang forth you!
Richard Dawkins puts it very well. His argument is that there are 30 billion planets in our solar system and about a billion solar systems. Using a conservative estimate to say that each of those contain an average of only a billion planets. So that would be at least 1 billion billion planets. Therefore if life were so inpropable that the chances of it happening were one in a billion, we'd still have approximately 1 billion planets with life on them (paraphrased by the way) Good chances I'd say
@intelligentfalling The interesting thing about the chance theory is to take a group of rocks as well as gases if you like, place them in a vacuum, bang them together and see how long it takes for them to spring forth intelligent life..
Also I am curious as to which books you've been reading. If any of them have the term "Irreducible Complexity" in them as one of their major selling points its not a scientific book, because there has not been a single scientific discovery of irreducible complexity in all of the 150 years of research of Darwinian evolution. If one is ever found of course, the person who finds it will win a nobel prize for such a telling discovery. Also if the authors last name is Behe, the book is garbage.
This video has been on my favourites list for a long time - it's much appreciated and I have now ordered Sense and Goodness Without God which will only reinforce what I have learnt so far. Keep up the good work. 5*
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To atheists, I hope you take pride in being a distant cousin of the monkeys, and I certainly hope you're proud to be a product of chance. Oh and be sure to live life to the fullest, cause you're gonna regret it since there ain't no afterlife in your opinion.
We are all (very) distant cousins of monkeys, we are not a product of chance (if you understood how evolution really works you'd know this), and I do intend to live life to the fullest and not waste it. To the creationist I hope your proud of being a piece of dirt.
@ltzippy2 Actually without a creator everything is a product of chance, it's the only explanation non-theists can use for how we got here in the first place
Actually I think that we should be proud of the progressiveness and open mindedness of our successful primate ancestors. To develop tool use and a complex society, to meet and subdue a planet with nothing more than brain power and ingenuity is fantastic. As for lacking an afterlife, well, according to most religions you're more likely to burn for all eternity for minor indiscretions like working on a Sunday so we're probably better off without one.
Sraye, Science confers power on anyone who takes the trouble to learn it, although many have been systematically prevented from doing so...Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking, and without it our critical faculties fail us. Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what is true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. -Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
That's the thing that gets me about people like Sraye. His sole opposition to atheism/agnosticism is that he does not "take pride in being a distant cousin of the monkeys." But it's not about pride (an emotion that makes us subject to manipulation, influence, and vile acts like war) it's about the truth. I don't have to be proud of something to acknowledge its value as reality.
@Sraye I feel bad for you, since you live your full life in the hope of something that doesn't exist. And I hope you take pride in accepting as true ideas that you simply like better, ideas that are totally unsupported and ridiculous in the end.
what the hell is he saying at 1:59?
Thinking of getting something for your friend?
If that's what he saying, he really messed it up.
philnoll 2 years ago
Man has free will to believe or not to believe...For those who believe I hope that there is a place for you full of Love and happiness and for those Non believers the Dead is conscious of Nothing enjoy!
Terrance9999 2 years ago
I've done my own reading and I've found that there's also a nice bit of untruth in the way the evidence for evolution is presented, so that you for all your comments but besides "pride", I find that evolution still ain't my cup of tea. Besides, if you trace evolution back to the beginning, where life supposedly came from a primordial soup, then evolution is really, chance. And I do not agree with that. Life originated by chance, right indeed. Common sense can tell you that ain't possible.
Sraye 3 years ago
Well it doesn't really matter if it's your cup of tea. It's fact. And everything in the universe is made up by chance. Just take a Quantum Mechanics class and you'll quickly learn that. Evolution is no different. Its just pure dumb chance like everything else. Be glad that that chance sprang forth you!
studylikehell 3 years ago 3
Richard Dawkins puts it very well. His argument is that there are 30 billion planets in our solar system and about a billion solar systems. Using a conservative estimate to say that each of those contain an average of only a billion planets. So that would be at least 1 billion billion planets. Therefore if life were so inpropable that the chances of it happening were one in a billion, we'd still have approximately 1 billion planets with life on them (paraphrased by the way) Good chances I'd say
intelligentfalling 3 years ago
@intelligentfalling.... Couldn't have said it better my self :)
aaronzvz 2 years ago
@intelligentfalling The interesting thing about the chance theory is to take a group of rocks as well as gases if you like, place them in a vacuum, bang them together and see how long it takes for them to spring forth intelligent life..
SunbeltRyders 1 year ago
Also I am curious as to which books you've been reading. If any of them have the term "Irreducible Complexity" in them as one of their major selling points its not a scientific book, because there has not been a single scientific discovery of irreducible complexity in all of the 150 years of research of Darwinian evolution. If one is ever found of course, the person who finds it will win a nobel prize for such a telling discovery. Also if the authors last name is Behe, the book is garbage.
intelligentfalling 3 years ago
Yet, the same common sense tells you that an invisible sugar daddy in the sky (aka god) created life.
NotDuncan 2 years ago
lol @ sraye
thanks for the recommend, i,m going to read unweaving the rainbow
fabianlabian 4 years ago
This video has been on my favourites list for a long time - it's much appreciated and I have now ordered Sense and Goodness Without God which will only reinforce what I have learnt so far. Keep up the good work. 5*
tenneral 4 years ago
I could say the same thing about you, after all, when you're dead, you decompose and return to the dirt, don't you?
Sraye 4 years ago
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To atheists, I hope you take pride in being a distant cousin of the monkeys, and I certainly hope you're proud to be a product of chance. Oh and be sure to live life to the fullest, cause you're gonna regret it since there ain't no afterlife in your opinion.
Sraye 4 years ago
We are all (very) distant cousins of monkeys, we are not a product of chance (if you understood how evolution really works you'd know this), and I do intend to live life to the fullest and not waste it. To the creationist I hope your proud of being a piece of dirt.
ltzippy2 4 years ago 14
@ltzippy2 Actually without a creator everything is a product of chance, it's the only explanation non-theists can use for how we got here in the first place
SunbeltRyders 1 year ago
Actually I think that we should be proud of the progressiveness and open mindedness of our successful primate ancestors. To develop tool use and a complex society, to meet and subdue a planet with nothing more than brain power and ingenuity is fantastic. As for lacking an afterlife, well, according to most religions you're more likely to burn for all eternity for minor indiscretions like working on a Sunday so we're probably better off without one.
formless777 4 years ago
Sraye, Science confers power on anyone who takes the trouble to learn it, although many have been systematically prevented from doing so...Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking, and without it our critical faculties fail us. Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what is true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. -Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
leecorrine 4 years ago
That's the thing that gets me about people like Sraye. His sole opposition to atheism/agnosticism is that he does not "take pride in being a distant cousin of the monkeys." But it's not about pride (an emotion that makes us subject to manipulation, influence, and vile acts like war) it's about the truth. I don't have to be proud of something to acknowledge its value as reality.
kjg28 4 years ago
why would someone regret living life to the full?
hansendrexler 3 years ago
@Sraye
Is your imaginary friend still a racist homophobic jealous genocidal bully that sent his son on a suicide mission?
kansaimagic 1 year ago
@Sraye Well I would say you believe your religion because it makes you feel better about yourself. The Truth Hurts.
bagadonuts112294 1 year ago
@Sraye I feel bad for you, since you live your full life in the hope of something that doesn't exist. And I hope you take pride in accepting as true ideas that you simply like better, ideas that are totally unsupported and ridiculous in the end.
2CSST2 1 year ago
You guys should read the varieties of scientific experience...it's carl sagan's gifford lecture edited by anne druyan (his wife)
studylikehell 4 years ago
I'm reading that right now! lol
kjg28 4 years ago
I'm gonna have to get Demon Haunted World, but most of Sagan's work is out of print in the UK. Thanks for the Internet and imports!
ltzippy2 4 years ago
That really is an excellent book. Sagan was such a great writer.
allfyre 4 years ago
Thx for the recommendations!
TheCuriousSkeptic 4 years ago
I was already getting the book a sense of goodness but I wasn't sure about unweaving the rainbow. Now I'm going to get both :)
Be sure to go your library and pick up Demon-Haunted World. I did and then i regretted never buying it.
KT45 4 years ago