Honestly, I think the only way you're going to win some of these battles is through civil disobedience. I say, continue to offer good customer service (showing up sooner than 15 minutes), and offer cheap rates (less than $45). Challenge them. Don't shut down, even with a court order. You're not alone. Remember, there's a fellow who's facing charges for refusing to shut down a dog grooming business. Yall aren't alone. The citizens outnumber the government. Remind them.
I think this is crazy. I'm a young guy who started my own limousine business about 8 months ago in Nashville. The new Ordinances are making it very hard on me. I don't have so much an issue with Nashville wanting me to charge a min amount because I already charge over that amount, but it's all the government fee's and things of that nature! I can't hardly afford to get towards the top because Nashville is taking all the money I make away from me. This is not fair!
@Kimay124 - You are 100% right when you said that Gov. is just trying to out companies.....Were you a participant in the private meeting between the TLC and TennLA? Only someone that had first hand knowledge could possibly make a comment like that.
@Kimay124 - You are 100% right when you said that Gov. is just trying to out companies.....Were you a participant in the private meeting between the TLC and TennLA? Only someone that had first hand knowledge could possibly make a comment like that.
@Kimay124 - You say "Like Taxi". You are right! You say the cost to operate properly exceeds the min fare? The business model is the exact same as business models in major metro areas that are now robust with black car service. Any why is NYC full of black cars? BECAUSE IT WORKS. It is profitable. REVENUE CURES ALL ILLS. Nashville high end service is less than 10% of business. The other business model covers 90%. REVENUE REVENUE REVENUE.
@Kimay124 - As for your comment that the companies that oppose the ordinance are not properly insured, it is good to note that the main company on this video carries 2.5M and has carried that amount for a much longer time than the ordinance has existed.
@Kimay124 - In regards to your comment that the companies that are against the ordinance DID NOT fight the ordinance in its formation, had you properly read the minues of the TLC meetings, you would have learned that NOT ONLY was there a great deal of opposition, but additionally, the TLC Chair tabled the discussion until a later date. Once it came again to be discussed, the Chair would NOT ALLOW there to be any discussion until AFTER the ordinance was passed.
The problem is NOT the government. The problem is a cartel of big business Cadillac dealers are using the government to crush competition. That's the end game result of capitalism. Big businesses to grow bigger will start using their money to gain influence in government. That's what happened here. - The way to counter it is for the people of Nashville to organize and protest loud and clear that they want the monopolistic laws stopped. Government can work for the people as well as big business.
This is exactly the kind of government regulations that are in Atlas Shrugged. See the movie or better yet, read the book. I hope the citizens of Nashville tell their city officials what they think of this unAmerican regulation.
How about if the TN Livery Assn. and their troll posting here update the website's member list? After all, doesn't the stated, prominent, "Code of Ethics" include a publishment of members so as to ascertain certain truths of your organization?
Or are we to believe that the TLA is pure as snow?
Can you supply a link to corroborate the claims of the legislation in this video. I cannot find any mention of this online when searching for taxi fees in Nashville.
@TheSaliozzia@TheSaliozzia So, youtube won't let me post the link, even after putting in the appropriate (dot)'s and (slash)'s. Google "Nashville Limo Law" that will take you to a site called grand avenue limo to a page titled "Nashville Limo Law:Why you should care Buyer Beware" About halfway down, there is a link for the nashville government site for their "tlc" section which is the "transportation licencing commission. That will bring you to their site, click on "Laws Index" under Ch 6.74
Oh Nashville oughtta be ashamed of itself (and I don't mean the hard working people who are just trying to provide for their families); oh gosh, I just wish every one of them who care more about money and controlling others than people who are just trying to get by would end up at Mc Donalds scrubbing toilets for minimum wage!!!
It's a shame you don't get all side of the story with a video like this. The TN Livery Association actually includes small companies (many one car companies). This ordinance was not requested by this organization, rather the organization was formed to add power to the livery companies in town to make an ordinance (benchmarked from other cities) that was going to pass regardless more doable for all companies in town. The companies fighting this chose not to join the debate beforehand.
I am guessing there is no price ceiling on Taxi cabs. So, the car company applies for a new license as a taxi company (advertises itself as high end) and charges $25 an hour. (Then, of course, the city will pass a law putting a price ceiling on taxi wages in the name of anti price gouging). Directive 10-289 will surely cure all of Nashville's ills.
@huber57 - The taxi industry (nationwide) is actually highly regulated. In most cities you can't get a taxi business license unless you buy one from a company already in existence. Which is why these companies, practically operating as a taxi company, do not have one. Prior to this ordinance it was extremely easy to get a livery business license.
I tried to open a waste vegetable oil recycling company, to produce fuel for converted diesel vehicles. Los Angeles has a law requiring a $1 million bond for transporting used vegetable oil; that law was written by companies that take the oil (and charge the restaurants for disposal), render it, and turn it into pig feed. The law was written to prevent small wvo and biodiesel companies from starting up.
so ... um make their game into a stupid game? give customers a rebate back if they used less than $45 of service. always. lol. its just a stupid game remember.
@MrRUShure Yes, I have worked for a livery company so I followed the ordinance. Governments regulate competition all the time. The companies fighting this operate as taxi companies. It was much easier to get a livery business license that a taxi license. $45 is actually VERY cheap for a livery service. If you have proper insurance and maintain cars properly you may not be able to make a profit with that. Gov. is just trying to out companies that are cutting the wrong corners to cut price.
Honestly, I think the only way you're going to win some of these battles is through civil disobedience. I say, continue to offer good customer service (showing up sooner than 15 minutes), and offer cheap rates (less than $45). Challenge them. Don't shut down, even with a court order. You're not alone. Remember, there's a fellow who's facing charges for refusing to shut down a dog grooming business. Yall aren't alone. The citizens outnumber the government. Remind them.
duck4gov 1 month ago
Cab drivers are piece of garbage
MultiSharmuta 5 months ago
Fuck cab drivers
MultiSharmuta 5 months ago
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What is that status of the case ? any update
darkpink8 7 months ago
I think this is crazy. I'm a young guy who started my own limousine business about 8 months ago in Nashville. The new Ordinances are making it very hard on me. I don't have so much an issue with Nashville wanting me to charge a min amount because I already charge over that amount, but it's all the government fee's and things of that nature! I can't hardly afford to get towards the top because Nashville is taking all the money I make away from me. This is not fair!
alexancia5279 9 months ago
@alexancia5279 Could you still charge that amount if the minimum was abolished?
marudoethiopia 7 months ago
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alexancia5279 9 months ago
What is that status of the case? Did these limo drivers win?
swedishvolvo 9 months ago
@swedishvolvo The case is still going on.
InstituteForJustice 9 months ago
@InstituteForJustice I wish you all the best in your fight for justice! Please let us know what the outcome is once the case is over.
swedishvolvo 9 months ago
Why would Nashville set out to put more people out of work this year? Isn't this an election year?
shadowblade9991 10 months ago
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@Kimay124 - You are 100% right when you said that Gov. is just trying to out companies.....Were you a participant in the private meeting between the TLC and TennLA? Only someone that had first hand knowledge could possibly make a comment like that.
atennesseemom 10 months ago
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@Kimay124 - You are 100% right when you said that Gov. is just trying to out companies.....Were you a participant in the private meeting between the TLC and TennLA? Only someone that had first hand knowledge could possibly make a comment like that.
atennesseemom 10 months ago
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@Kimay124 - You say "Like Taxi". You are right! You say the cost to operate properly exceeds the min fare? The business model is the exact same as business models in major metro areas that are now robust with black car service. Any why is NYC full of black cars? BECAUSE IT WORKS. It is profitable. REVENUE CURES ALL ILLS. Nashville high end service is less than 10% of business. The other business model covers 90%. REVENUE REVENUE REVENUE.
atennesseemom 10 months ago
@Kimay124 - As for your comment that the companies that oppose the ordinance are not properly insured, it is good to note that the main company on this video carries 2.5M and has carried that amount for a much longer time than the ordinance has existed.
atennesseemom 10 months ago
@Kimay124 - In regards to your comment that the companies that are against the ordinance DID NOT fight the ordinance in its formation, had you properly read the minues of the TLC meetings, you would have learned that NOT ONLY was there a great deal of opposition, but additionally, the TLC Chair tabled the discussion until a later date. Once it came again to be discussed, the Chair would NOT ALLOW there to be any discussion until AFTER the ordinance was passed.
atennesseemom 10 months ago
It is not the land of opportunity anymore!
trgbill 10 months ago
The problem is NOT the government. The problem is a cartel of big business Cadillac dealers are using the government to crush competition. That's the end game result of capitalism. Big businesses to grow bigger will start using their money to gain influence in government. That's what happened here. - The way to counter it is for the people of Nashville to organize and protest loud and clear that they want the monopolistic laws stopped. Government can work for the people as well as big business.
dgrhm08 10 months ago
This is exactly the kind of government regulations that are in Atlas Shrugged. See the movie or better yet, read the book. I hope the citizens of Nashville tell their city officials what they think of this unAmerican regulation.
KimDushinski 10 months ago
How about if the TN Livery Assn. and their troll posting here update the website's member list? After all, doesn't the stated, prominent, "Code of Ethics" include a publishment of members so as to ascertain certain truths of your organization?
Or are we to believe that the TLA is pure as snow?
krinpaus 10 months ago
Why is Milton from Office Space the spokesman against this regulation?
1337cake1337pie 10 months ago
Democracy at work! Pitiful...
Abdurahman1234567890 10 months ago
Can you supply a link to corroborate the claims of the legislation in this video. I cannot find any mention of this online when searching for taxi fees in Nashville.
TheSaliozzia 10 months ago
@TheSaliozzia @TheSaliozzia So, youtube won't let me post the link, even after putting in the appropriate (dot)'s and (slash)'s. Google "Nashville Limo Law" that will take you to a site called grand avenue limo to a page titled "Nashville Limo Law:Why you should care Buyer Beware" About halfway down, there is a link for the nashville government site for their "tlc" section which is the "transportation licencing commission. That will bring you to their site, click on "Laws Index" under Ch 6.74
exstntlstfrtn 10 months ago
Wow, this is just like having a legal mafia run the industry. Think about it.
sniggity 10 months ago
Wow talk about big government putting it's hands where it does not belong.
hendem999 10 months ago
Oh Nashville oughtta be ashamed of itself (and I don't mean the hard working people who are just trying to provide for their families); oh gosh, I just wish every one of them who care more about money and controlling others than people who are just trying to get by would end up at Mc Donalds scrubbing toilets for minimum wage!!!
Lavenderrose73 10 months ago
They did this kind of thing in Atlas Shrugged. It was called the "Anti Dog Eat Dog Rule" and it was ridiculous. Just like this...
cliftonmckinney1 10 months ago
It's a shame you don't get all side of the story with a video like this. The TN Livery Association actually includes small companies (many one car companies). This ordinance was not requested by this organization, rather the organization was formed to add power to the livery companies in town to make an ordinance (benchmarked from other cities) that was going to pass regardless more doable for all companies in town. The companies fighting this chose not to join the debate beforehand.
Kimay124 10 months ago
Middle Tennesee is lost.
dpwellman 10 months ago
I am guessing there is no price ceiling on Taxi cabs. So, the car company applies for a new license as a taxi company (advertises itself as high end) and charges $25 an hour. (Then, of course, the city will pass a law putting a price ceiling on taxi wages in the name of anti price gouging). Directive 10-289 will surely cure all of Nashville's ills.
huber57 10 months ago
@huber57 - The taxi industry (nationwide) is actually highly regulated. In most cities you can't get a taxi business license unless you buy one from a company already in existence. Which is why these companies, practically operating as a taxi company, do not have one. Prior to this ordinance it was extremely easy to get a livery business license.
Kimay124 10 months ago
@Kimay124 Thanks for the insight. I guess I should say that I am not surprised. I hope the livery folks defeat this law. Best of luck to them.
huber57 10 months ago
welcome to ObamaNation
HangProgressives 10 months ago
CEOs, bankers hardest hit.
My heart breaks.
/s
amitbarfs 10 months ago
Slash some bureaucrat's tires, leave a note saying you're stimulating the economy
spamdude1 10 months ago 2
How stupid does this suck?
82compoundw 10 months ago
I tried to open a waste vegetable oil recycling company, to produce fuel for converted diesel vehicles. Los Angeles has a law requiring a $1 million bond for transporting used vegetable oil; that law was written by companies that take the oil (and charge the restaurants for disposal), render it, and turn it into pig feed. The law was written to prevent small wvo and biodiesel companies from starting up.
Agitpropist 10 months ago
WTF NASHVILLE! SONS OF BIT***************ES
flyinbry 10 months ago
Another example of how "regulation" is nothing more than favoritism for the big power players, and a detriment to the common man.
blue46gt 10 months ago 3
fuck you nashville
ghpatriot 10 months ago
$45?? That is crazy. Completely crazy.
RustyIronloins 10 months ago
so ... um make their game into a stupid game? give customers a rebate back if they used less than $45 of service. always. lol. its just a stupid game remember.
BladeMcCool 10 months ago
Textbook example of government helping unscrupulous, incompetent businesses screw over their customers and their honest competition.
-jcr
NSResponder 10 months ago
CRAZY,, How about charging the $45.00 and give all your customers a coupon worth lets say $20.00 off that way the cost is still $25.00.
MrRUShure 10 months ago 29
@MrRUShure - The $45 is inclusive of all discounts and coupons.
Kimay124 10 months ago
@Kimay124 Weird, I just don't see how a city can make you charge a certain fee? I take it you know more about this then the video is showing.
MrRUShure 10 months ago
@MrRUShure Yes, I have worked for a livery company so I followed the ordinance. Governments regulate competition all the time. The companies fighting this operate as taxi companies. It was much easier to get a livery business license that a taxi license. $45 is actually VERY cheap for a livery service. If you have proper insurance and maintain cars properly you may not be able to make a profit with that. Gov. is just trying to out companies that are cutting the wrong corners to cut price.
Kimay124 10 months ago
@Kimay124 Ok that makes sense. Those that cut safety to make a few dollars are not one that I would want t ride from
MrRUShure 10 months ago
@MrRUShure Worth a shot.
Decentralism 10 months ago
Government has no business telling businesses what to charge for their products and services.
If $25- is *really* too little for a limo ride, then the business will fail.
rdemanow 10 months ago 31
The courts these days give almost no limiting weight to the constitution.
pigoutultra 10 months ago
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
TylerMacNeill 10 months ago