There is nothing in a vacuum. If it were a vacuum there wouldn't be separation of the lunar dust. It's only recently that the NASA/military have disclosed atmosphere/water on the moon, why didn't they know this after 69'? Now if there's atmosphere then that means that their 1/6th Eg (earth gravity) Is incorrect (think more like 3/5ths). If that's the case how does a 5K KG LM lift off without the aid of much larger rockets? Could it be a Searle disc?
@seriouscheddar FOR GODS SAKE, where did you find atmosphere in the moon? there is dust because the propellant is oxygen and hydrogen. the moon isnt just a rock. its gazillions of grains of dust held together by gravity. matter cannot be created nor destroyed, so the exhaust coming out is causing the dust to move, like a jet engine. if there was atmosphere on the moon, the LM,CM,and SM would've burnt up. air is the major problem getting spacecraft to space.and do you know how small the moons is?
People who are trying to judge whether all of this is fake or not really annoy me. You're right, I don't know without a doubt if it really happened or not, but I sure as hell know that I would never be able to tell that from a picture or a video.
@fatzvogel Dust on the moon would settle alot faster than on earth, because there is a vacuum and virtually no resistance to keep the dust from falling
Ok, im not saying i believe this was a hoax, in fact, i believe the moon landing was real, those people that think the moon landing was faked are not dumb cause the believe that, they are only dumb for resorting to cursing and namecalling without giving reasons why its fake. Like someone gives reasons why its faked, i respond saying why it isnt faked. Just call them dumb when they actually start cursing because they have nottin to say.
all of nasa vids suggest everything is correct accept for nut cases that re adjust reality for purposes of conveniently saying it didn't happen and in most cases these folks don't know any of the ppl alive and dead who'd given their careers and lives to do this grand video of the truth untampered!! dan ragan
@peyotecactus "Search Youtube; Apollo 11. Halfway to the Moon: Window Shot
Then find another argument. Man NEVER went to the moon".
What about that window shot? The moron creating that video didn't even know that Earths surface and cloudscape passes by at a fast rate when filmed from low Earth orbit.
That video is insane! I really hope You are not taking it seriously...
@peyotecactus If something looked "amateur" compared to real space films, it was Kubricks "2001". But, it wasn't his fault. In the 60's the technology to make convincing space films (like the Apollo films) on Earth, didn't exist.
A lot of fussing & fighting going on here. Guardian seems like a moron in my opinion. Anyone that calls themselves a 'genius' isn't & if they were then you'd think they'd know how to spell. Much is being kept concealed about the moon & much more about space exploration in general, that much is true but to say something is a fact is always with a lack of evidence because none of us have personally been to space. We only know what we're told to know & I never believe the 'official' story.
@uppercutter21 I may have typos, but no misspelled words. The genius comment was a slash not a suggestion, know the difference... I don't believe in any of this bullshit moon hoax crap. If those bozos wouldn't acknowledge me like you did, I wouldn't be here, now would I? A bigger moron is one who challenges his objectives. For some reason, those clowns continues to challenge. Now who is the true moron to waste his time on another knowingly of his status? Why would you call yourself uppercutter?
@GUARDIANtrooper Im not targeting u, but ur words r pretentious & have no more or less merit 2 say, 4 a fact, what may or may not have happened by anymore means then those that dnt feel the same as u do. The real issue is r u arguing ur point? Is it b/c u feel the need 2 or b/c ur trying to help enlighten ur fellow man 2 the truth? And r u certain of that truth that u defend feverishly? People here r just making claims here & there's possibility 2 them. Dnt write off a possibility.
@uppercutter21 A HOAX is FACT, so don't you write off a my possibilities. Are you here to change me, to be an under cutter or watch a video? Why did you challenge my possibilities and not the rest? You are no more different from any other troll with a name undercutter translated to undercover... You got the wrong one with all that garbage and your time wasted if you continue to do so. People always ask me, "Why are you on all these videos?" I answer, "Because you clowns sent them to me..."
@GUARDIANtrooper Maybe theres a bit of truth 2 both views. Maybe we went 2 the moon but also did a staged version in case anything bad occurred. The world was watching & we didnt want them 2 watch our astronauts possibly dying. U can believe it was a hoax, Im not trying 2 'change' u (w/e that means). Thats great that u tell ppl off who send u vids but I didnt send u anything so y tell me that? I picked my handle b/c it sounded cool & it was available. Btw its upper not under & Im not trolling.
@uppercutter21 Making a "reserve video" sounds stupid. The whole world knew WHO were going to Moon. If they had died, NASA couldn't have presented three other guys and said: "Look here, it all went well!" Of course they would have had to admit if it went wrong. Just as with Apollo 13.
There actually is not a single "hoax evidence" that hasn't been debunked over and over again.
@uppercutter21 Oops, can't believe I wrote upper, lol! And you do seem a bit different from the rest. I can respect people who believe in the moon landings, but I don't respect those who insult me because I expressing my honest opinions. I don't need a degree to see that something just don't seem right to me. I understand science enough to know the difference between what is fake looking and with is authentic looking, it's not that hard at all...
@GUARDIANtrooper You don't understand science at all, and neither do you understand that in regards to this video, you have nothing to compare it to.
Can you at least acknowledge that there are no other videos of a craft lifting off from another heavenly body to compare this to, and hence you have no point of comparison? Looking at it and saying 'it doesn't look right' is just cheating, because you don't know what it SHOULD look like. What if this IS what it should look like?
@krisdevil If I don't understand science at all, then why do you continue to contest an idiot? I have Dr. Seuss books to compared that crappy, fake, about to fall apart vessel that will never see a moon, even if it had eyes... Earth is a heavenly celestial body that we happen to inhabit. And many vessel has ventured up. I truly believe your brain was taken up with it in a jar of vinegar, LMAO!!! I don't care what that crap should look like, all I know is, IT LOOKS FAKE, like your agenda...
@GUARDIANtrooper I wasn't trying to insult you I just wanted you to know that you were getting a little to emotionally involved with the topic. I know how that can be when you're trying to explain your views on the truth to others that don't or refuse to see it your way. You might be right on this whole thing, I know how it feels when something just doesn't seem right. I'm not 100% sure it was real or fake. Neither answer would surprise me. Official stories aren't often true.
@smogmontser They didn't send shit anywhere, it's all fake bullshit. Why in the fuck are they planing to abandon the space station, because of space debris? Send a probe deep into space and the shit wouldn't even make it a few hundred thousand miles without getting smashed to shit. And how do you seen back pictures that deep in space with no fucking relay and interruptions? And why in the fuck do you have to shoot me down if you have the truth behind you bitch? You are one stupid ass fool...
@GUARDIANtrooper what joy i like moon dummys makin asses out of themselves.what did forrest gump say? stupid is as stupid does.man went,man conqured. those astronauts are godlike GODLIKE!!!!
@NASAshelter I'm dumb but you spelled dummies (dummys)? Who's the dumb fool now?
Why would landing on the moon be godlike? A god doesn't need to land on a moon to prove anything to anyone. Especially, not hiding out from the world after what is supposed to be the greatest accomplishment of all times. Guilt and LIES can't be contained. I would be proud to be everywhere shaking hands and such, wouldn't you? It is stupid to think we went to the moon, I don't and you do, so I guess you are...
@GUARDIANtrooper You still haven't really explained why this is impossible. I see you splashing your disbelief and ignorance loud and proud all over these channels, while physicists and engineers continue to explain a consistent, logical story of how it was achieved.
I can research the escape velocity of the moon. I can research Homann transfer orbits. Or I can listen to you swear and blither.
Unless you can explain this better than you have so far?
@krisdevalle Your research is not taken up by a rocket ship, only a piggyback ride on NASA and their comedic adventures. I feel that you are splashing your beliefs and ignorance aloud and proud, but your manmade physicist and engineers are not explaining anything to me and others that continues to challenge their antics. Nor do they cause you to withdrawal from active duty, because the public accepted NASA's righteousness. Therefor, if you are doing your thing and I'm doing mine, we are even...
If you want to challenge, say, the density and gravity of the moon, I think you best do that.
I've not seen anything that demonstrates you're smarter or more learned than the majority. You didn't even seem to understand much about orbital mechanics.
@awey271 Yeah, and your house may have a thin metal termite shield, but termites will make mud tunnels up and around it to the food source. Why do NASA worry about space debris so much if the ISS has meteoroid shields? Meteors are not found in space (((EVER))), only in our atmosphere. In conclusion, meteor shields doesn't exist... You do know that meteoroids come in many sizes and are mostly metal and can travel very rapidly, do you not? Space is dangerous and spacecrafts are target practice.
@smogAssBrain If the so-called hoaxers are pathetic, then why do you even acknowledge them? You are ignorant to challenge a no win. Your acknowledgement makes it righteous enough for my continuing to proceed in eradicating a lie just by commenting on it. Did any other country go to the moon besides NASA? hell no... So your bullshit is what it's worth, NOT A DAMN THING... And for the record bitch, I am a genius. But, with a fire tongue to say, FUCK YOU CLOWN... Is that pathetic enough for you?
@smogmontser Why in the fuck would you jeopardize career to bring the truth idiot? They just shut the fuck up and get paid, SELLOUTS, just like your ignorant ass. NASA don't have to fool thousand of people to believe shit, they just lie and if you don't like it, leave. Don't bother to say shit, because propaganda is their shield. Everyone knows the government is fucked up, so it doesn't matter if someone calls it fake. That's why your stupid ass have a job on here. A $10 week career SELLOUT...
All i ever hear is NASA hoax this, NASA hoax that, with no warrants? All you really ever say is "The moon landing is faked" without any scientific evidence to back that up? I wonder if you were dropped as a kid.
@GoAway All I say is the moon landing is a Hoax and all you Trolling clowns do is challenge me. How are you any different from me, besides being in the opposition? I'm just commenting my assessment, I'm not making videos to prove anything, especially a LIE to be the TRUTH, like you people do. The TRUTH doesn't need support, it is evident without question. You don't even have to acknowledge me with your insults and lame opinions. You people made me and now you have a problem, a major problem...
Well, we all like debates, we argue, and if we win, we feel good, if we lose, well, we learn something, people are competitive these days yknow? I kno i am.
@awey271 I debate to win, so I guess I'll never learn to lose. You people get on here everything and pretty much call people stupid, because they don't believe we landed on the moon. To me, the evidence is overwhelming that it is a HOAX. That is why Trolls like you are here fighting so hard for your god NASA could continue to get funded to keep HOAX, I mean hope alive. Phony crap, give me a break. You must be a complete fool if you can't see those clowns dangling on wires, too funny...
Thing we hate about u is that you curse and call names at other people, you arent an idiot for believing it was a hoax, your only an idiot if you curse and name call, cause that means other people think your out of evidence
@awey271 Wow..., personal? I don't have anything to lose to take anything on youtube personal, especially something fake. I know the truth and the truth knows how to find its way home, you will see soon enough...
Ok, but while we all wait for the government to give us the truth, lets debate about what our predictions will be, what the truth will be, and i honestly dont see any wires, since when did u think this was fake, why?
@awey271 There is no truth in politics and the government is political, so is the moon landings, yes or no? Do you completely believe politicians are honest? Predictions aren't the truth, they're incomplete. Truth is never parallel to lies that are constantly targeted. After meeting Buzz at about 10, I wanted to be an astronaut and started doing my studies with earth science, meteorology, astronomy and computer hacking. Yes I said it... In my studies, I found anomalies and then you people...
Like you ever will bro, as you said in the previous comments, "Gus Grissom was murdered by NASA" cause he was a bigmouth, well, your out of luck of becoming an astronaut, because NASA would probrably murder you, im starting to go on your side a little now.
@awey271 Amateur and alternative space programs, you don't need NASA, they lie about stars then proved they can be recorded. I never said it was impossible to go to the moon, I said it was impossible in the 60s and 70s with minimum knowledge of radiation. That's the big task that NASA could never defeat, to this day. If radiation wasn't a problem, then why do astronauts have a limited time in space just outside of our planet? We should have a IMS (International Moon Station) by now, LOL!
First, there are many problems with the IMS, you see, the astronauts are sent certain trajectories to avoid the harmful parts of the radiation belt, the problem with the IMS is that it would be super expensive, also, in Apollo, the guys arent out there long enough to get exposed to the radiation, im still in the middle of believing wether its a hoax or not.
@awey271 If you're interested in reviewing hoax claims, wikipedia has an excellent page called 'Moon landing conspiracy theories' where all the claims are rounded up and analysed. Of course all references and sources are included so you can continue investigation past that summary page.
@awey271 Why is it called the IMS? To lower the expense load of one country. We are talking about the world, THE COLD WAR IS OVER... The USA hitchhiked on a Russian vessel from the ISS, how about that for change. Money is not an issue, radiation is. What do you think they are doing at the ISS? What else, researching how to get to Mars and the MOON manned... And don't rely on Wikipedia, they call people conspiracy theorist, which clarifies they work with NASA. Krisdevalle is a liar and a fool...
Yes, but also, the men have limited time actually walking on the surface, on apollo 17, the most time they have been out was about 7 hours. That isnt enough to actually get exposed, and do you really think other countries would spend about 25 billion dollars each to send men on a 4 day adventure far out? I mean, we have alot more to worry about, and from what i saw from a jap satellite orbiting the moon were the fragments left behind. Of course though, the radiation is bad.
I mean its easy to send a man up into earth orbit to construct a space station, i mean, zero g, heck, if your spacecraft has problems, you can send another one to save your ass, but the moon brah, whole nother story man. You would need tons of capsules, not only that, you will also need some extra room in them. And to send a man a quarter of a million miles away, the delay and all that, and not just one orbiting capsule can stay up there that long, you would need another one...
So that means, you would need to send the one that was to send the men to the moon back to Earth and launch another one, and you must make a ton of round trips to carry supplies back and forth, manking doesnt have technology for long duration stay in the space station, cause if something were to go wrong, the men would have to abort, but where is the capsule to rendezvous and dock with? It all takes alot of thinking.
The Space Race may be over and all, but that means we will be chill and all that, but if we work with another country, and china gets all over our asses, then we could probrably put up an IMS.
FAKE ASS JACK-IN-THE-BOX. It looks like someone yanked the that fake ass shit up with a string. What a fucking joke, fake ass, about to fall apart, Dr. Seuss drawing looking bullshit... If you fucking idiots can't see that this shit is sooooo fucking fake, you really need some fucking help. Go find some sense, borrow it from some kid or something, do something, WTF...??? LMAO!!
What did you expect, the Starship Enterprise? There's nothing about this remotely fake or unreal, you're just a typical retarded kid that grew up watching Star Wars and thinks that's what the real world should look like.
@Blahblobify The Starship Enterprise is about right, to get to the moon and back 480,000 miles you fucking clown. At least it is big enough to hold the correct amount of fucking fuel. I Love the Star Wars movies bitch, but I also love movie mistakes.com and Star Wars have more anomalies then any other movie. So go fuck yourself, I'm not some dumb ass kid that will submit to your ignorant ass lame suggestions. NASA is not science bitch, science is experimental constantly. Bring your stupid shit.
@IamStupid So why in the fuck do you acknowledge dumb kids you idiot? You love picking on kids? Is that what happen to your sorry ass? Don't blame me for your lame ass anterior nightmares... I don't have to tell my parents about shit, everyone with some sense can see the shit is COMPLETELY FAKE. That is why you fools come on here EVERYDAY advocating those stupid ass lies. Keep up the good work, it only makes it seemingly more FAKE, lmao!!
@YDDES You must not know about me, I'll curse your ass out in a minute, matter-of-a-fact FUCK YOU, don't write back if you don't like it bitch...
Actually you are a Troll and I don't give a fuck about you or your likes. You have a choice to FUCK OFF... We aren't debating about shit, we are constantly arguing about me exposing the lies just by saying them, very effortless... You clowns are the ones sweeting this shit, the truth needs no defense at such magnitude. Go look that up mothafucker...
@GUARDIANtrooper Wow kid. It's fun when you post, because you talk so much rubbish.
Do you really think it's so hard to get to the moon? Do you realise it's all about velocity? If the Saturn V, with 7 million lbs of thrust, can accelerate the capsule fast enough, then it gets there. You don't need to keep the gas on all the way. You HAVE to learn some fucking orbital mechanics, because it's clear when you open your mouth, you know squat.
@krisdevalle Wow old man, I may talk rubbish, but you talk the same shit you've been eating on, take it personal... No, I realize your stupid ass can't spell "realize." Of course the rockets get into space and probably to the moon, if they luck up and get the trajectory correct. But it is not large enough to make it back, FUEL INEFFICIENCY for your little Saturn V and for you, cocaine is a terrible drug, good luck with that... I didn't say you have to keep the gas on clown, attitude guidance...
@GUARDIANtrooper Hey shit for brains, you know the Earth's gravity that keeps the moon in orbit around it?
That's what the fucking capsule rides pretty much all the way back.
How do I know this? I can look up and see that the fucking moon is in orbit.
Now... what retarded shit are going to say next? You don't believe the Earth's gravity is what keeps the moon in orbit? Or something even more insane?
@krisdevalle You do know that our satellites and space station have attitude boosters to move from one orbit to another in our upper atmosphere so that they won't get pulled down by our planets strong gravitational pulls? Our entire solar system gyrates which means an object that small can't stay on an orbital track without thrust guidance. Stupid bitch, if you road there on a track, do you think the trip will have the same resistance both ways? Keep using NASA's head, suck that dick idiot...
@GUARDIANtrooper I see, so you are saying that the planet Earth has a strong gravitational pull, so returning from the moon is a matter of falling back to Earth with some guidance adjustment. No problem, dude.
@GUARDIANtrooper You'll have to learn some very basic physics, my friend. Already sir Isaac could tell You that no guidance is needed to send an object to Moon, after You have given it the right speed and direction. It's simple ballistic mechanics. The spacestation doesn't need any "attitude boosters". It only needs a little push upwards from time to time (by a Progress or Soyus), because of the very thin atmosphere at its relatively low altitude. Between Earth and Moon their is no atmosphere
@YDDES You can't teach me shit, because you don't know shit, so CAN that stupid shit dummy. How does the space station avoid space junk when no ship is docked clown?
We are talking about a HOAX, that defies all the laws of physics just to make a fake ass moon landing to beat out the Russians. A simple exchange for a SELLOUT ass country and you clowns do the increase. But a lie versus time and technology with tell on those liars, because the TRUTH refuse to be contained. STAY TONED BITCH...
@GUARDIANtrooper Better if You used some of the energy You waste on swearing and namecalling on education instead. It's easy to find detailed descriptions of how the lunar lander was designed and built.
It's also easy to understand that it was quite able to accomplish what is said that it did.
@bibbler227 Why the fuck do you care about what I should do, or where I should go? You acknowledged, so I supposed your stupid ass want a piece of the rock to challenge a stupid person. Fuck you bozo...
@GUARDIANtrooper Gee, what an intelligent statement by such a foul mouthed little boy! Teach us all about the "Big Hoax" that you know all about....
You're a stupid, ignorant, uneducated pile of shit. USER BLOCK - Have a nice life kiddo. I'm sure with you're intelligence and obvious lack of education you're well on your way to a life of Public Assistance!
@bibbler227 Block me from what, your stupid ass channel? WHO GIVES A FUCK BITCH, LMAO!! Talk that shit to someone who cares, I DON'T CARE... I didn't ask you to comment on me bitch, you insulted me first you ignorant ass sore losing clown, WTF?? LMAO!!!
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@echozgus I thought your stupid ass was the scientists and astronomers of the world, that's why your ignorant ass know so much, right? Fuck you clown... All that moon landing shit is fake. A bunch of fools hopping around on wires and shit, give me a fucking break degenerate, lmao!! The truth cannot be contained, but a fucking lie sticks out like a full moon in the night sky. Anomalies love to smile and laugh out loud at those who try to hide them, the stupid shit is so fucking funny, LMAO!!!
WE MUST GO BACK AGAIN. I don't dive a fuck whether it will be Russia, the USA, China, India or whichever other nation wants to go--WE MUST GO BACK OR SOCIETY WILL STAGNATE AS IT HAS ALREADY!!! (proven by shit like American Idol and so forth....)
I've done a LOT of research on this and have come to the UNDENIABLE conclusion,with all the evidence taken into account,that the moon landing was a huge HOAX! (to beat the Russians to the moon) There is NO WAY the technology was available then to send anyone to the moon! And funny how the famous foortage of Armstrong stepping onto the surface was of the POOREST black and white quality,while most other footage is pretty clear,and in colour! WHY?? lol!
@toffeetigerkimba Congratulations! You have come to a conclusion that thousands of experts the world around haven't during 40 years...
Since you are such an expert: Can You detail some of the technology needed to go to the moon, that wasn't available in the 60's, please?
Funny, that there are so many clear, colour films from the later lunar landings, if they wanted to hide a hoax by showing the first steps in black and white. Don't You think?...
@toffeetigerkimba Actually, he reason Armstrongs first steps are of such an inferior quality is because they had a little B/W camera that was folded out from the LEM after landing. Furthermore, since Moon was not seen from USA, but from Australia during those minutes, the signal was recieved in Australia and transmitted to USA. The signal was not compatible with broadcasting TV-signals, so in was put up on a TV monitor and filmed by a broadcasting type camera off the screen to be broadcast..
@toffeetigerkimba I suggest YOU make some serious research instead of blindly accepting what the hoax sellers tell You.
For example: Where did the rocets go after lift off? How could third party radioastronomers/amateurs track the signals to Moon and back? Exactly how did NASA fake everything, from moonrocks to the vast lunar landscapes and sun from a black sky?
@toffeetigerkimba Did You use an analogue, cathode-ray tube TV monitor and an analouge TV camera as they did in the 60's? Shouldn' think so...
Of course You must be able to tell us at least SOME of the needed lunar landing technology that wasn't available in the 60's? Otherwise You may just be a simple, uneducated liar...
@toffeetigerkimba -- OK. You want to discuss the thing? Alright. The first "hoax theory evidence" was put out by a guy named Bill Kaysing in 1969. (He worked for NASA. Some people claim he was an engineer. He was not. His major was in English and he did some writing for them.)
Anyway, his 2 big famous arguments were:
- There should have been a blast crater; and
- There should have been dust on the LM's foot pads.
So here's your chance to think about it: WHY should there have been ...?
@toffeetigerkimba I am adult enough to reconise B******t when I see it, you have NO evidence and you know it so all you can do is avoid being debunked by not saying anything.....pathetic. and that is my conclusion.
@toffeetigerkimba -- I've personally looked at most of the hoax-theory so-called "evidence." I've done my own calculations, I've looked into the physics of the actions. I've done most of my own measurements.
Every single item of hoax-theory "evidence" is nonsense.
Every bit of it is just as stupid as the "there should have been a blast crater" argument which can ONLY be promoted by people who can't do simple arithmetic.
Trying to convince a Hoaxer the landings were real is like trying to potty train a newborn infant--ain't gonna happen any time soon. I am pleased to announce, after several days of perusing the internet, that the MOON HOAX Movement is dead, save for a few stragglers and some foreigners with weird accents
Clarification I believe we actually did go to the moon, but if it was by chance faked that would still be impressive.....I mean shit the most impressive thing was getting Saturn V off the ground without exploding like a roman candle, and noone can dispute that Saturn V was launched into space.
The solar constant is 1.361 kilowatts per square meter.1.361 kW/m², is equivalent to 1.95 calories per minute per square centimeter, or 1.95 langleys (Ly) per minute. 1 watt (W) is equal to one joule per second (J/s or m2kgs-3). 1361 watts is 1361 joules per second. 1361 joules per second = 13610000000 ergs per second. 1 erg = 6.24150974 × 10^11 electron volts. Is this correct? Do the conversion yourself and see if it checks out. We never left low earth orbit then and we can't do it now.
@Daddyo930 Instead of cutting and pasting all these figures (which I bet you don't understand), show us to the scientifical reports (SCIENTIFICAL, that means by real renowned scientists, not taxi drivers and the like) stating that man can't leave Earth orbit with available technology because of radiation.
@YDDES Without proper shielding the crews of missions beyond low Earth orbit (LEO) might be at risk from high-energy protons emitted by solar flares. Lawrence Townsend of the University of Tennessee and others have studied the most powerful solar flare ever recorded. That flare was seen by the British astronomer Richard Carrington in September 1859. Radiation doses astronauts would receive from a Carrington-type flare could cause acute radiation sickness and possibly even death. There's one.
@Daddyo930 Can You please tell me where to find SCIENTIFICAL reports that actually states that solar flares or any such events prevented any astronauts from going to Moon from december 1968 (apollo 8) to december 1972 (Apollo 17)?
We are not talking about Jules Vernes' "astronauts" in the middle of the 19th century, so what Carrington said he saw in 1859 is of no relevance here.
@YDDES Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. LDE flares are solar proton events and very dangerous. Page 82 for explanation on how to read page 87. November 17, 18 and 19th. The astronuts were supposed to be on the moon on the 17th. An M3 class solar proton event lasting 3 hours hit the earth, hence the moon. Same thing on the 18th and 19th. If you can read the chart, tell me what you see on the 17th 18th and 19th.
@Daddyo930 I still ask You to present scientifical reports stating that astronauts could not travel outside low Earth orbit during the Apollo missions or any other time. That means: REAL scientists saying that could not be done, because....
I'm not interested of Your figures. I want clear statements from scientists that it couldn't have been done, considering all facts, including spaceship designs.
@YDDES Did you look at the Catalogue? It was done by the scientist at NASA astrophysics data systems. Maybe you should go talk to someone else who want to engage in the sophistry of professional credentialism.
@Daddyo930 OK. I'll consider the possibility of a hoax when credible scientists right out state it couldn't have been done, and when movie special effects experts tell how every film sequence of the landings were faked.
Until then, I'll leave You in Your small world where man can't leave Earth, and remain glad that I've lived to experience the only known occasion in the history of Universe when a species has travelled to another celestial body.
@Daddyo930 No, but I have never read any scientifical reports stating that it was all ahoax, and I've followed the manned spaceprogram from the beginning, reading newspapers, books and scientifical journals. No "doubts" were published until some very ignorant (but in a way smart) book- and videosellers began to talk about "no stars, crashing LEM prototypes, lethal radiation" and other nonsense, to make money on the gullible.
@Daddyo930 Command Mod. had 1,360 watts/m² shining on it's hull, so, you can do conversions all day but you won't find a reason short-term space travel is impossible.
Plutonium238, at 5.59MeV requires only 2.5 millimeters of lead for proper shielding.
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1centimeter of lead OR 18g/cm² of water to attenuate gamma rad' by %50.
2.7g/cm² water =1.0g/cm² AL.
Apollo's 7-8g/cm² AL. density rating was equivalent to over 20g/cm² of water.
@Daddyo930 Don't you feel stupid reading this just from one day ago? Imagine how you'll feel next year when you read all this buffoonery! LOL
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"1361 joules per second = 13610000000 ergs per second. 1 erg = 6.24150974 × 10^11 electron volts. Is this correct? Do the conversion yourself and see if it checks out. We never left low earth orbit then and we can't do it now."
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Again the Solar Constant is NOT all ionizing radiation, yet you covert it into 6.24150974 × 10^11 electron volts
@Daddyo930 Radioactive? None, because the solar wind is not radioactive, the energy is not from nuclei decay, it doesn't give off neutrons like Fukushima nuc' facility.
How much is ionizing? Good question, it resembles a black body spectrum so most of it is infra-red.
When you find out maybe you can re-vamp your equation for spamming.
@Tweekerhead Solar flares generate gamma radiation. Is that correct? You still haven't answered where the reference to Stonyhurst is in the catalog. Page 80 has no reference. Cite it please by copying and pasting the quote.
@Daddyo930 Read page 80 carefully again it explains the flares quite clearly, you may not agree with the LDE catalog, but most hoaxers do not like facts that destroy their arguments.
@Daddyo930 That's not what I said. Do you always see just what you want to see?
Read page 80, it describes the contents of flares.
The Carrington issue is moot, you can stop pretending to understand it, matter a fact it's a pain in the ass way for heliographics.
Continue to consult "ytmoog" as long as you don't try to insult him as you've tried to insult me, he'll help you and maybe someday you'll see the truth as far as Apollo is concerned.
@Tweekerhead We're not there yet. We're still at you pointing out where in the catalog that it says it uses Stonyhurst coordinates. We'll discuss your other points later.
@Daddyo930 No I know where it is, I'm seeing how good your investigative skills are,by the look at it...Ya' know...can't figure out that Apollo was actually real.
If you had even just an incline how to do the Carrington equation you'd simply post it and completely blow me out of the water, then all Apollo believers would sit back and marvel at your intellectual prowess, but alas...
Stop pretending, you & I both know you don't have the capabilities so the carrington issue doesn't prove a thing.
Please Daddy, go biking for a week or two. Try some fresh air. And after that try to ask a few credentialed physicists at ApolloHoax[.]com to help you calculating. Stop thinking you are smarter than all astrophysicists around the globe. You are NOT Daddy.
@sportsportsport It isn't stars, it's some "anomalies" in the camera or transmission. Similair "dots" can be seen in several videos, even photographed by the Soviet Lunochods.
For those who think the lunar landings were hoaxed, look no further than Dr. Edgar Mitchell. He FIRMLY believes in aliens and was the 6th man to walk on the moon. If anyone from NASA were to scream "conspiracy", it would be him. He hasn't. On that note, go research extra-terrestrial proof. According to NASA, there are 50 BILLION EARTH-LIKE PLANETS in our galaxy alone, while 500 MILLION OF THEM ARE IN THE HABITABLE ZONE. Multiply that by a TRILLION galaxies and intelligent life is 100% guaranteed
@james3244 Sorry, but we can't say that "extraterrestrial intelligent life is 100% guaranteed". First: We do not now HOW life started on Earth. It can have been a one in a trillion coincident. Second: During 4 billion years of life on Earth, what we call "intelligent life" has occured only ONCE in only ONE place.
So, there is absolutely NO guarantee that there is something we can call "intelligent life" in another place in our galaxy or any other place. Maybe, or maybe not...
@YDDES I strongly believe in math and science and it's 100% guaranteed in the eyes of probability. How did life originate on Earth.. that one's easy. EXO-GENESIS. Bacteria from an asteroid or other planetary object struck a young earth. How did all this (the universe) begin? Well that's a different story. You'd have to go quantum/PSEUDO for that one. Study near-death experiences for a couple years and the answer becomes quite clear. Remember, we are all just LIGHT (photons). What is REALity?
There is nothing in a vacuum. If it were a vacuum there wouldn't be separation of the lunar dust. It's only recently that the NASA/military have disclosed atmosphere/water on the moon, why didn't they know this after 69'? Now if there's atmosphere then that means that their 1/6th Eg (earth gravity) Is incorrect (think more like 3/5ths). If that's the case how does a 5K KG LM lift off without the aid of much larger rockets? Could it be a Searle disc?
seriouscheddar 2 days ago
@seriouscheddar
Behold the facts of the moontard "there's atmosphere on the moon and the moon's gravity is 3/5 of Earth".
Got any more moon facts moonboy?
Blahblobify 1 day ago
@Blahblobify Here's one more just for you. The moon although massive isn't quite as large as your mommas arse!
seriouscheddar 14 hours ago
@seriouscheddar FOR GODS SAKE, where did you find atmosphere in the moon? there is dust because the propellant is oxygen and hydrogen. the moon isnt just a rock. its gazillions of grains of dust held together by gravity. matter cannot be created nor destroyed, so the exhaust coming out is causing the dust to move, like a jet engine. if there was atmosphere on the moon, the LM,CM,and SM would've burnt up. air is the major problem getting spacecraft to space.and do you know how small the moons is?
someone2Utoo 11 hours ago
People who are trying to judge whether all of this is fake or not really annoy me. You're right, I don't know without a doubt if it really happened or not, but I sure as hell know that I would never be able to tell that from a picture or a video.
artifice1112 1 week ago
Yea, the dust settles way to fast. That does not look like earth.
ToyRail 2 weeks ago
I bet the astronauts and the people in Houston and Cape Kennedy were relieved when the lift off from the moon was a sucess.
ROCKSOLID19 2 weeks ago
Congratulations! The dust settles in about 3 seconds! Nobody finds that a little bit odd?
fatzvogel 3 weeks ago
@fatzvogel not in a vacuum
TiaraAlonso 3 weeks ago
@fatzvogel Dust on the moon would settle alot faster than on earth, because there is a vacuum and virtually no resistance to keep the dust from falling
joachim2464 1 week ago
@fatzvogel The dust is being blown past the camera because in a vacuum there's no air resisistance stupid
Blahblobify 1 week ago
the only people who think this is fake are those dumb enough to believe so.
fucktardickis 1 month ago
@fucktardickis
Ok, im not saying i believe this was a hoax, in fact, i believe the moon landing was real, those people that think the moon landing was faked are not dumb cause the believe that, they are only dumb for resorting to cursing and namecalling without giving reasons why its fake. Like someone gives reasons why its faked, i respond saying why it isnt faked. Just call them dumb when they actually start cursing because they have nottin to say.
awey271 1 month ago
all of nasa vids suggest everything is correct accept for nut cases that re adjust reality for purposes of conveniently saying it didn't happen and in most cases these folks don't know any of the ppl alive and dead who'd given their careers and lives to do this grand video of the truth untampered!! dan ragan
dansing124 2 months ago
Search Youtube; Apollo 11. Halfway to the Moon: Window Shot
Then find another argument. Man NEVER went to the moon.
peyotecactus 2 months ago
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@peyotecactus "Search Youtube; Apollo 11. Halfway to the Moon: Window Shot
Then find another argument. Man NEVER went to the moon".
What about that window shot? The moron creating that video didn't even know that Earths surface and cloudscape passes by at a fast rate when filmed from low Earth orbit.
That video is insane! I really hope You are not taking it seriously...
YDDES 2 months ago
@peyotecactus
Yes the famous "OMG something's not right because we say so" window shot.
Only problem is there's nothing wrong with the window shot, just the smarmy narrator's accusatory tone and vague insinuation that there is.
Blahblobify 2 months ago
@Blahblobify Did you ever see this: watch?v=1NhEUmlp4l8& . I bet you will change your mind.
pauloblob 2 months ago
Kubrick bailed out after Apollo 11, that's why this looks so amateur.
peyotecactus 2 months ago
@peyotecactus
Holy Shit there's no stars it must be fake.
Blahblobify 2 months ago
@peyotecactus If something looked "amateur" compared to real space films, it was Kubricks "2001". But, it wasn't his fault. In the 60's the technology to make convincing space films (like the Apollo films) on Earth, didn't exist.
YDDES 2 months ago
the heros are a comin home
guitarnashelter 3 months ago
A lot of fussing & fighting going on here. Guardian seems like a moron in my opinion. Anyone that calls themselves a 'genius' isn't & if they were then you'd think they'd know how to spell. Much is being kept concealed about the moon & much more about space exploration in general, that much is true but to say something is a fact is always with a lack of evidence because none of us have personally been to space. We only know what we're told to know & I never believe the 'official' story.
uppercutter21 3 months ago
@uppercutter21 I may have typos, but no misspelled words. The genius comment was a slash not a suggestion, know the difference... I don't believe in any of this bullshit moon hoax crap. If those bozos wouldn't acknowledge me like you did, I wouldn't be here, now would I? A bigger moron is one who challenges his objectives. For some reason, those clowns continues to challenge. Now who is the true moron to waste his time on another knowingly of his status? Why would you call yourself uppercutter?
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Im not targeting u, but ur words r pretentious & have no more or less merit 2 say, 4 a fact, what may or may not have happened by anymore means then those that dnt feel the same as u do. The real issue is r u arguing ur point? Is it b/c u feel the need 2 or b/c ur trying to help enlighten ur fellow man 2 the truth? And r u certain of that truth that u defend feverishly? People here r just making claims here & there's possibility 2 them. Dnt write off a possibility.
uppercutter21 3 months ago
@uppercutter21 A HOAX is FACT, so don't you write off a my possibilities. Are you here to change me, to be an under cutter or watch a video? Why did you challenge my possibilities and not the rest? You are no more different from any other troll with a name undercutter translated to undercover... You got the wrong one with all that garbage and your time wasted if you continue to do so. People always ask me, "Why are you on all these videos?" I answer, "Because you clowns sent them to me..."
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Maybe theres a bit of truth 2 both views. Maybe we went 2 the moon but also did a staged version in case anything bad occurred. The world was watching & we didnt want them 2 watch our astronauts possibly dying. U can believe it was a hoax, Im not trying 2 'change' u (w/e that means). Thats great that u tell ppl off who send u vids but I didnt send u anything so y tell me that? I picked my handle b/c it sounded cool & it was available. Btw its upper not under & Im not trolling.
uppercutter21 3 months ago
@uppercutter21 Making a "reserve video" sounds stupid. The whole world knew WHO were going to Moon. If they had died, NASA couldn't have presented three other guys and said: "Look here, it all went well!" Of course they would have had to admit if it went wrong. Just as with Apollo 13.
There actually is not a single "hoax evidence" that hasn't been debunked over and over again.
YDDES 3 months ago
@uppercutter21 Oops, can't believe I wrote upper, lol! And you do seem a bit different from the rest. I can respect people who believe in the moon landings, but I don't respect those who insult me because I expressing my honest opinions. I don't need a degree to see that something just don't seem right to me. I understand science enough to know the difference between what is fake looking and with is authentic looking, it's not that hard at all...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper You don't understand science at all, and neither do you understand that in regards to this video, you have nothing to compare it to.
Can you at least acknowledge that there are no other videos of a craft lifting off from another heavenly body to compare this to, and hence you have no point of comparison? Looking at it and saying 'it doesn't look right' is just cheating, because you don't know what it SHOULD look like. What if this IS what it should look like?
krisdevalle 3 months ago
@krisdevil If I don't understand science at all, then why do you continue to contest an idiot? I have Dr. Seuss books to compared that crappy, fake, about to fall apart vessel that will never see a moon, even if it had eyes... Earth is a heavenly celestial body that we happen to inhabit. And many vessel has ventured up. I truly believe your brain was taken up with it in a jar of vinegar, LMAO!!! I don't care what that crap should look like, all I know is, IT LOOKS FAKE, like your agenda...
GUARDIANtrooper 2 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper I dunno, I guess I just like to see what kind of angry, insane reply you will come up with. You never fail to disappoint.
krisdevalle 2 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper I wasn't trying to insult you I just wanted you to know that you were getting a little to emotionally involved with the topic. I know how that can be when you're trying to explain your views on the truth to others that don't or refuse to see it your way. You might be right on this whole thing, I know how it feels when something just doesn't seem right. I'm not 100% sure it was real or fake. Neither answer would surprise me. Official stories aren't often true.
uppercutter21 2 months ago
@smogmontser They didn't send shit anywhere, it's all fake bullshit. Why in the fuck are they planing to abandon the space station, because of space debris? Send a probe deep into space and the shit wouldn't even make it a few hundred thousand miles without getting smashed to shit. And how do you seen back pictures that deep in space with no fucking relay and interruptions? And why in the fuck do you have to shoot me down if you have the truth behind you bitch? You are one stupid ass fool...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper what joy i like moon dummys makin asses out of themselves.what did forrest gump say? stupid is as stupid does.man went,man conqured. those astronauts are godlike GODLIKE!!!!
guitarnashelter 3 months ago
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GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@NASAshelter I'm dumb but you spelled dummies (dummys)? Who's the dumb fool now?
Why would landing on the moon be godlike? A god doesn't need to land on a moon to prove anything to anyone. Especially, not hiding out from the world after what is supposed to be the greatest accomplishment of all times. Guilt and LIES can't be contained. I would be proud to be everywhere shaking hands and such, wouldn't you? It is stupid to think we went to the moon, I don't and you do, so I guess you are...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper You still haven't really explained why this is impossible. I see you splashing your disbelief and ignorance loud and proud all over these channels, while physicists and engineers continue to explain a consistent, logical story of how it was achieved.
I can research the escape velocity of the moon. I can research Homann transfer orbits. Or I can listen to you swear and blither.
Unless you can explain this better than you have so far?
krisdevalle 3 months ago
@krisdevalle Your research is not taken up by a rocket ship, only a piggyback ride on NASA and their comedic adventures. I feel that you are splashing your beliefs and ignorance aloud and proud, but your manmade physicist and engineers are not explaining anything to me and others that continues to challenge their antics. Nor do they cause you to withdrawal from active duty, because the public accepted NASA's righteousness. Therefor, if you are doing your thing and I'm doing mine, we are even...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Nope, that doesn't really cut it, bro.
If you want to challenge, say, the density and gravity of the moon, I think you best do that.
I've not seen anything that demonstrates you're smarter or more learned than the majority. You didn't even seem to understand much about orbital mechanics.
krisdevalle 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
SUCK MY ROCKET!!! Lol, its a joke i come up before class, its so funny.
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
The spacecraft has a meteor shield, im sure it can withstand tiny space debris, and besides, we are able to avoid the large ones
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 Yeah, and your house may have a thin metal termite shield, but termites will make mud tunnels up and around it to the food source. Why do NASA worry about space debris so much if the ISS has meteoroid shields? Meteors are not found in space (((EVER))), only in our atmosphere. In conclusion, meteor shields doesn't exist... You do know that meteoroids come in many sizes and are mostly metal and can travel very rapidly, do you not? Space is dangerous and spacecrafts are target practice.
GUARDIANtrooper 1 month ago
Lol? The air force song?
BigD2895 3 months ago
@smogAssBrain If the so-called hoaxers are pathetic, then why do you even acknowledge them? You are ignorant to challenge a no win. Your acknowledgement makes it righteous enough for my continuing to proceed in eradicating a lie just by commenting on it. Did any other country go to the moon besides NASA? hell no... So your bullshit is what it's worth, NOT A DAMN THING... And for the record bitch, I am a genius. But, with a fire tongue to say, FUCK YOU CLOWN... Is that pathetic enough for you?
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@smogmontser Why in the fuck would you jeopardize career to bring the truth idiot? They just shut the fuck up and get paid, SELLOUTS, just like your ignorant ass. NASA don't have to fool thousand of people to believe shit, they just lie and if you don't like it, leave. Don't bother to say shit, because propaganda is their shield. Everyone knows the government is fucked up, so it doesn't matter if someone calls it fake. That's why your stupid ass have a job on here. A $10 week career SELLOUT...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
All i ever hear is NASA hoax this, NASA hoax that, with no warrants? All you really ever say is "The moon landing is faked" without any scientific evidence to back that up? I wonder if you were dropped as a kid.
awey271 1 month ago
@GoAway All I say is the moon landing is a Hoax and all you Trolling clowns do is challenge me. How are you any different from me, besides being in the opposition? I'm just commenting my assessment, I'm not making videos to prove anything, especially a LIE to be the TRUTH, like you people do. The TRUTH doesn't need support, it is evident without question. You don't even have to acknowledge me with your insults and lame opinions. You people made me and now you have a problem, a major problem...
GUARDIANtrooper 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
I believe we went to the moon, and i have my reasons y
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 Good, I guess being blind is happiness for you people, but still, I have an agenda and you have yours Troll...
GUARDIANtrooper 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Why call me a troll? Im trying to be polite, and nice
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Well, you have an Agenda, then defend it!
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Well, we all like debates, we argue, and if we win, we feel good, if we lose, well, we learn something, people are competitive these days yknow? I kno i am.
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 I debate to win, so I guess I'll never learn to lose. You people get on here everything and pretty much call people stupid, because they don't believe we landed on the moon. To me, the evidence is overwhelming that it is a HOAX. That is why Trolls like you are here fighting so hard for your god NASA could continue to get funded to keep HOAX, I mean hope alive. Phony crap, give me a break. You must be a complete fool if you can't see those clowns dangling on wires, too funny...
GUARDIANtrooper 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Thing we hate about u is that you curse and call names at other people, you arent an idiot for believing it was a hoax, your only an idiot if you curse and name call, cause that means other people think your out of evidence
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Well, also, in our own little world, we believe the moon landing was the truth, you believe the hoax is also the truth, but you have to defend it.
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Hey, sorry for callin u a coward
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Im not insulting you right?
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
just dont take it so personally
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 Wow..., personal? I don't have anything to lose to take anything on youtube personal, especially something fake. I know the truth and the truth knows how to find its way home, you will see soon enough...
GUARDIANtrooper 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Ok, but while we all wait for the government to give us the truth, lets debate about what our predictions will be, what the truth will be, and i honestly dont see any wires, since when did u think this was fake, why?
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 There is no truth in politics and the government is political, so is the moon landings, yes or no? Do you completely believe politicians are honest? Predictions aren't the truth, they're incomplete. Truth is never parallel to lies that are constantly targeted. After meeting Buzz at about 10, I wanted to be an astronaut and started doing my studies with earth science, meteorology, astronomy and computer hacking. Yes I said it... In my studies, I found anomalies and then you people...
GUARDIANtrooper 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Like you ever will bro, as you said in the previous comments, "Gus Grissom was murdered by NASA" cause he was a bigmouth, well, your out of luck of becoming an astronaut, because NASA would probrably murder you, im starting to go on your side a little now.
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 Amateur and alternative space programs, you don't need NASA, they lie about stars then proved they can be recorded. I never said it was impossible to go to the moon, I said it was impossible in the 60s and 70s with minimum knowledge of radiation. That's the big task that NASA could never defeat, to this day. If radiation wasn't a problem, then why do astronauts have a limited time in space just outside of our planet? We should have a IMS (International Moon Station) by now, LOL!
GUARDIANtrooper 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
First, there are many problems with the IMS, you see, the astronauts are sent certain trajectories to avoid the harmful parts of the radiation belt, the problem with the IMS is that it would be super expensive, also, in Apollo, the guys arent out there long enough to get exposed to the radiation, im still in the middle of believing wether its a hoax or not.
awey271 1 month ago
@awey271 If you're interested in reviewing hoax claims, wikipedia has an excellent page called 'Moon landing conspiracy theories' where all the claims are rounded up and analysed. Of course all references and sources are included so you can continue investigation past that summary page.
krisdevalle 1 month ago
@awey271 Why is it called the IMS? To lower the expense load of one country. We are talking about the world, THE COLD WAR IS OVER... The USA hitchhiked on a Russian vessel from the ISS, how about that for change. Money is not an issue, radiation is. What do you think they are doing at the ISS? What else, researching how to get to Mars and the MOON manned... And don't rely on Wikipedia, they call people conspiracy theorist, which clarifies they work with NASA. Krisdevalle is a liar and a fool...
GUARDIANtrooper 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Yes, but also, the men have limited time actually walking on the surface, on apollo 17, the most time they have been out was about 7 hours. That isnt enough to actually get exposed, and do you really think other countries would spend about 25 billion dollars each to send men on a 4 day adventure far out? I mean, we have alot more to worry about, and from what i saw from a jap satellite orbiting the moon were the fragments left behind. Of course though, the radiation is bad.
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
They probrably can be experimenting how plants grow in outer space, and I'll tell you, its pretty f'd up how plants grow up there.
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
I mean its easy to send a man up into earth orbit to construct a space station, i mean, zero g, heck, if your spacecraft has problems, you can send another one to save your ass, but the moon brah, whole nother story man. You would need tons of capsules, not only that, you will also need some extra room in them. And to send a man a quarter of a million miles away, the delay and all that, and not just one orbiting capsule can stay up there that long, you would need another one...
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
So that means, you would need to send the one that was to send the men to the moon back to Earth and launch another one, and you must make a ton of round trips to carry supplies back and forth, manking doesnt have technology for long duration stay in the space station, cause if something were to go wrong, the men would have to abort, but where is the capsule to rendezvous and dock with? It all takes alot of thinking.
awey271 4 weeks ago
@awey271
*mankind
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Or... we could always send a ton of supply ships to the moon, till the time comes to bring the guys home! But how much do you think that will cost.
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Oh and, FYI, dude, i like live in Texas, and the Johnson Space center is so frikin cool.
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Dude, the first time i ever touched a moon rock (if it is a real one) was amazing
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Sorry, i meant mankind on the technology part
awey271 4 weeks ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
The Space Race may be over and all, but that means we will be chill and all that, but if we work with another country, and china gets all over our asses, then we could probrably put up an IMS.
awey271 4 weeks ago
skip to 0:50 ;)
lamefuckinone 3 months ago
FAKE ASS JACK-IN-THE-BOX. It looks like someone yanked the that fake ass shit up with a string. What a fucking joke, fake ass, about to fall apart, Dr. Seuss drawing looking bullshit... If you fucking idiots can't see that this shit is sooooo fucking fake, you really need some fucking help. Go find some sense, borrow it from some kid or something, do something, WTF...??? LMAO!!
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
What did you expect, the Starship Enterprise? There's nothing about this remotely fake or unreal, you're just a typical retarded kid that grew up watching Star Wars and thinks that's what the real world should look like.
Blahblobify 3 months ago 2
@Blahblobify The Starship Enterprise is about right, to get to the moon and back 480,000 miles you fucking clown. At least it is big enough to hold the correct amount of fucking fuel. I Love the Star Wars movies bitch, but I also love movie mistakes.com and Star Wars have more anomalies then any other movie. So go fuck yourself, I'm not some dumb ass kid that will submit to your ignorant ass lame suggestions. NASA is not science bitch, science is experimental constantly. Bring your stupid shit.
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper
Sorry, but you are indeed "some dumb ass kid".
Never tell your mommy and daddy you think the Apollo missions were fake, they will cry when they see how weird and stupid you are.
Blahblobify 3 months ago
@IamStupid So why in the fuck do you acknowledge dumb kids you idiot? You love picking on kids? Is that what happen to your sorry ass? Don't blame me for your lame ass anterior nightmares... I don't have to tell my parents about shit, everyone with some sense can see the shit is COMPLETELY FAKE. That is why you fools come on here EVERYDAY advocating those stupid ass lies. Keep up the good work, it only makes it seemingly more FAKE, lmao!!
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper I just wonder if You are really able to write (or talk?) without all those fucking shit-words You love to throw in...
Actually, there is a name for that mental ailment. It's called "Tourette's syndrome".
Look it up!
YDDES 3 months ago
@YDDES You must not know about me, I'll curse your ass out in a minute, matter-of-a-fact FUCK YOU, don't write back if you don't like it bitch...
Actually you are a Troll and I don't give a fuck about you or your likes. You have a choice to FUCK OFF... We aren't debating about shit, we are constantly arguing about me exposing the lies just by saying them, very effortless... You clowns are the ones sweeting this shit, the truth needs no defense at such magnitude. Go look that up mothafucker...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@YDDES
Dude, i suck at cursing and namecalling
awey271 1 month ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Wow kid. It's fun when you post, because you talk so much rubbish.
Do you really think it's so hard to get to the moon? Do you realise it's all about velocity? If the Saturn V, with 7 million lbs of thrust, can accelerate the capsule fast enough, then it gets there. You don't need to keep the gas on all the way. You HAVE to learn some fucking orbital mechanics, because it's clear when you open your mouth, you know squat.
krisdevalle 3 months ago
@krisdevalle Wow old man, I may talk rubbish, but you talk the same shit you've been eating on, take it personal... No, I realize your stupid ass can't spell "realize." Of course the rockets get into space and probably to the moon, if they luck up and get the trajectory correct. But it is not large enough to make it back, FUEL INEFFICIENCY for your little Saturn V and for you, cocaine is a terrible drug, good luck with that... I didn't say you have to keep the gas on clown, attitude guidance...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Hey shit for brains, you know the Earth's gravity that keeps the moon in orbit around it?
That's what the fucking capsule rides pretty much all the way back.
How do I know this? I can look up and see that the fucking moon is in orbit.
Now... what retarded shit are going to say next? You don't believe the Earth's gravity is what keeps the moon in orbit? Or something even more insane?
krisdevalle 3 months ago
@krisdevalle You do know that our satellites and space station have attitude boosters to move from one orbit to another in our upper atmosphere so that they won't get pulled down by our planets strong gravitational pulls? Our entire solar system gyrates which means an object that small can't stay on an orbital track without thrust guidance. Stupid bitch, if you road there on a track, do you think the trip will have the same resistance both ways? Keep using NASA's head, suck that dick idiot...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper I see, so you are saying that the planet Earth has a strong gravitational pull, so returning from the moon is a matter of falling back to Earth with some guidance adjustment. No problem, dude.
krisdevalle 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper You'll have to learn some very basic physics, my friend. Already sir Isaac could tell You that no guidance is needed to send an object to Moon, after You have given it the right speed and direction. It's simple ballistic mechanics. The spacestation doesn't need any "attitude boosters". It only needs a little push upwards from time to time (by a Progress or Soyus), because of the very thin atmosphere at its relatively low altitude. Between Earth and Moon their is no atmosphere
YDDES 3 months ago
@YDDES You can't teach me shit, because you don't know shit, so CAN that stupid shit dummy. How does the space station avoid space junk when no ship is docked clown?
We are talking about a HOAX, that defies all the laws of physics just to make a fake ass moon landing to beat out the Russians. A simple exchange for a SELLOUT ass country and you clowns do the increase. But a lie versus time and technology with tell on those liars, because the TRUTH refuse to be contained. STAY TONED BITCH...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@krisdevalle good answer :)
echozgus 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Better if You used some of the energy You waste on swearing and namecalling on education instead. It's easy to find detailed descriptions of how the lunar lander was designed and built.
It's also easy to understand that it was quite able to accomplish what is said that it did.
YDDES 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper See, you should applied yourself in school. Now you're just a run of the mill dumbass.
bibbler227 3 months ago
@bibbler227 Why the fuck do you care about what I should do, or where I should go? You acknowledged, so I supposed your stupid ass want a piece of the rock to challenge a stupid person. Fuck you bozo...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Gee, what an intelligent statement by such a foul mouthed little boy! Teach us all about the "Big Hoax" that you know all about....
You're a stupid, ignorant, uneducated pile of shit. USER BLOCK - Have a nice life kiddo. I'm sure with you're intelligence and obvious lack of education you're well on your way to a life of Public Assistance!
bibbler227 3 months ago
@bibbler227 Block me from what, your stupid ass channel? WHO GIVES A FUCK BITCH, LMAO!! Talk that shit to someone who cares, I DON'T CARE... I didn't ask you to comment on me bitch, you insulted me first you ignorant ass sore losing clown, WTF?? LMAO!!!
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aczjbr 4 months ago
sooo fake its a joke
chazjohn46 4 months ago
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@chazjohn46 Talking about Your education? :)
YDDES 4 months ago
@chazjohn46 why? looks very real to me
echozgus 4 months ago
@echozgus Everything that they do looks real to you NASA dick suckers... Fake ass bullshit, what a fucking joke...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper tell that to the scientists and astronomers of the world "darth vader"
echozgus 3 months ago
@echozgus I thought your stupid ass was the scientists and astronomers of the world, that's why your ignorant ass know so much, right? Fuck you clown... All that moon landing shit is fake. A bunch of fools hopping around on wires and shit, give me a fucking break degenerate, lmao!! The truth cannot be contained, but a fucking lie sticks out like a full moon in the night sky. Anomalies love to smile and laugh out loud at those who try to hide them, the stupid shit is so fucking funny, LMAO!!!
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
WE MUST GO BACK AGAIN. I don't dive a fuck whether it will be Russia, the USA, China, India or whichever other nation wants to go--WE MUST GO BACK OR SOCIETY WILL STAGNATE AS IT HAS ALREADY!!! (proven by shit like American Idol and so forth....)
AVIATIO 4 months ago
I've done a LOT of research on this and have come to the UNDENIABLE conclusion,with all the evidence taken into account,that the moon landing was a huge HOAX! (to beat the Russians to the moon) There is NO WAY the technology was available then to send anyone to the moon! And funny how the famous foortage of Armstrong stepping onto the surface was of the POOREST black and white quality,while most other footage is pretty clear,and in colour! WHY?? lol!
toffeetigerkimba 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba Congratulations! You have come to a conclusion that thousands of experts the world around haven't during 40 years...
Since you are such an expert: Can You detail some of the technology needed to go to the moon, that wasn't available in the 60's, please?
Funny, that there are so many clear, colour films from the later lunar landings, if they wanted to hide a hoax by showing the first steps in black and white. Don't You think?...
YDDES 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba Actually, he reason Armstrongs first steps are of such an inferior quality is because they had a little B/W camera that was folded out from the LEM after landing. Furthermore, since Moon was not seen from USA, but from Australia during those minutes, the signal was recieved in Australia and transmitted to USA. The signal was not compatible with broadcasting TV-signals, so in was put up on a TV monitor and filmed by a broadcasting type camera off the screen to be broadcast..
YDDES 4 months ago
No actually,I believe it was to hide even further the flaws in the whole HOAX!
Try THINKING instead of blindly accepting everything they tell you!
toffeetigerkimba 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba I suggest YOU make some serious research instead of blindly accepting what the hoax sellers tell You.
For example: Where did the rocets go after lift off? How could third party radioastronomers/amateurs track the signals to Moon and back? Exactly how did NASA fake everything, from moonrocks to the vast lunar landscapes and sun from a black sky?
YDDES 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba Try to film a TV screen with a videocamera and see what quality You get...
YDDES 4 months ago
Oh I have! Comes out perfectly! (AND in colour lol!)
toffeetigerkimba 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba Did You use an analogue, cathode-ray tube TV monitor and an analouge TV camera as they did in the 60's? Shouldn' think so...
Of course You must be able to tell us at least SOME of the needed lunar landing technology that wasn't available in the 60's? Otherwise You may just be a simple, uneducated liar...
YDDES 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba -- OK. You want to discuss the thing? Alright. The first "hoax theory evidence" was put out by a guy named Bill Kaysing in 1969. (He worked for NASA. Some people claim he was an engineer. He was not. His major was in English and he did some writing for them.)
Anyway, his 2 big famous arguments were:
- There should have been a blast crater; and
- There should have been dust on the LM's foot pads.
So here's your chance to think about it: WHY should there have been ...?
prosperomage 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba Interesting, can you share some of your conclusions with us?
musicbruv 4 months ago
Not at all! Arent you adult enough to do your own research and come to your OWN,INDEPENDENT conclusions?
toffeetigerkimba 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba I am adult enough to reconise B******t when I see it, you have NO evidence and you know it so all you can do is avoid being debunked by not saying anything.....pathetic. and that is my conclusion.
musicbruv 4 months ago
@toffeetigerkimba -- I've personally looked at most of the hoax-theory so-called "evidence." I've done my own calculations, I've looked into the physics of the actions. I've done most of my own measurements.
Every single item of hoax-theory "evidence" is nonsense.
Every bit of it is just as stupid as the "there should have been a blast crater" argument which can ONLY be promoted by people who can't do simple arithmetic.
Want to discuss any of it?
I doubt it. Hoax cult members are sheep.
prosperomage 4 months ago
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Trying to convince a Hoaxer the landings were real is like trying to potty train a newborn infant--ain't gonna happen any time soon. I am pleased to announce, after several days of perusing the internet, that the MOON HOAX Movement is dead, save for a few stragglers and some foreigners with weird accents
charliegoodboy 4 months ago
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charliegoodboy 4 months ago
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APOLLO BULLSHIT 1968-1972
MOONLANDINGS FIMED ON PLANET EARTH
1) Zero-1 second Transmission Delay
2) Deadly Radiation
3) NO stars in Nasa's Apollo Disney Universe
4) Armstrong said he never saw stars in space
5) Buzz said he did
6) Collins cant remember
DeadJesus100 4 months ago
Clarification I believe we actually did go to the moon, but if it was by chance faked that would still be impressive.....I mean shit the most impressive thing was getting Saturn V off the ground without exploding like a roman candle, and noone can dispute that Saturn V was launched into space.
robwoods1972 4 months ago
Even faking going to the moon and pulling off like like we did, which I believe we did would be a feat in itself.
robwoods1972 4 months ago
The solar constant is 1.361 kilowatts per square meter.1.361 kW/m², is equivalent to 1.95 calories per minute per square centimeter, or 1.95 langleys (Ly) per minute. 1 watt (W) is equal to one joule per second (J/s or m2kgs-3). 1361 watts is 1361 joules per second. 1361 joules per second = 13610000000 ergs per second. 1 erg = 6.24150974 × 10^11 electron volts. Is this correct? Do the conversion yourself and see if it checks out. We never left low earth orbit then and we can't do it now.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Instead of cutting and pasting all these figures (which I bet you don't understand), show us to the scientifical reports (SCIENTIFICAL, that means by real renowned scientists, not taxi drivers and the like) stating that man can't leave Earth orbit with available technology because of radiation.
Because, this is just silly...
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES Without proper shielding the crews of missions beyond low Earth orbit (LEO) might be at risk from high-energy protons emitted by solar flares. Lawrence Townsend of the University of Tennessee and others have studied the most powerful solar flare ever recorded. That flare was seen by the British astronomer Richard Carrington in September 1859. Radiation doses astronauts would receive from a Carrington-type flare could cause acute radiation sickness and possibly even death. There's one.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Can You please tell me where to find SCIENTIFICAL reports that actually states that solar flares or any such events prevented any astronauts from going to Moon from december 1968 (apollo 8) to december 1972 (Apollo 17)?
We are not talking about Jules Vernes' "astronauts" in the middle of the 19th century, so what Carrington said he saw in 1859 is of no relevance here.
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES Catalogue of LDE flares (January 1969 - March 1986) differential rotation of the Sun during the period 1921-1971. LDE flares are solar proton events and very dangerous. Page 82 for explanation on how to read page 87. November 17, 18 and 19th. The astronuts were supposed to be on the moon on the 17th. An M3 class solar proton event lasting 3 hours hit the earth, hence the moon. Same thing on the 18th and 19th. If you can read the chart, tell me what you see on the 17th 18th and 19th.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 I still ask You to present scientifical reports stating that astronauts could not travel outside low Earth orbit during the Apollo missions or any other time. That means: REAL scientists saying that could not be done, because....
I'm not interested of Your figures. I want clear statements from scientists that it couldn't have been done, considering all facts, including spaceship designs.
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES Did you look at the Catalogue? It was done by the scientist at NASA astrophysics data systems. Maybe you should go talk to someone else who want to engage in the sophistry of professional credentialism.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 OK. I'll consider the possibility of a hoax when credible scientists right out state it couldn't have been done, and when movie special effects experts tell how every film sequence of the landings were faked.
Until then, I'll leave You in Your small world where man can't leave Earth, and remain glad that I've lived to experience the only known occasion in the history of Universe when a species has travelled to another celestial body.
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES It only seems credible to you when the scientist agree with you.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 No, but I have never read any scientifical reports stating that it was all ahoax, and I've followed the manned spaceprogram from the beginning, reading newspapers, books and scientifical journals. No "doubts" were published until some very ignorant (but in a way smart) book- and videosellers began to talk about "no stars, crashing LEM prototypes, lethal radiation" and other nonsense, to make money on the gullible.
YDDES 4 months ago
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@YDDES the propaganda retard
Tell us what shielding did Apollo have against comic radition dickhead?
LEM was a Toy space craft made of gold tin foil
DeadJesus100 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 One major flare hit Earth during Apollo mission from 68-72'
August 2nd 1972.
That claim of yours has been busted repeatedly....by yours truly.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
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@Daddyo930 Command Mod. had 1,360 watts/m² shining on it's hull, so, you can do conversions all day but you won't find a reason short-term space travel is impossible.
Plutonium238, at 5.59MeV requires only 2.5 millimeters of lead for proper shielding.
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1centimeter of lead OR 18g/cm² of water to attenuate gamma rad' by %50.
2.7g/cm² water =1.0g/cm² AL.
Apollo's 7-8g/cm² AL. density rating was equivalent to over 20g/cm² of water.
2g over halving thickness
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Don't you feel stupid reading this just from one day ago? Imagine how you'll feel next year when you read all this buffoonery! LOL
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"1361 joules per second = 13610000000 ergs per second. 1 erg = 6.24150974 × 10^11 electron volts. Is this correct? Do the conversion yourself and see if it checks out. We never left low earth orbit then and we can't do it now."
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Again the Solar Constant is NOT all ionizing radiation, yet you covert it into 6.24150974 × 10^11 electron volts
eV=ionizing
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead Fine. What percentage of the solar constant would you consider radioactive?
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Radioactive? None, because the solar wind is not radioactive, the energy is not from nuclei decay, it doesn't give off neutrons like Fukushima nuc' facility.
How much is ionizing? Good question, it resembles a black body spectrum so most of it is infra-red.
When you find out maybe you can re-vamp your equation for spamming.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead Solar flares generate gamma radiation. Is that correct? You still haven't answered where the reference to Stonyhurst is in the catalog. Page 80 has no reference. Cite it please by copying and pasting the quote.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Read page 80 carefully again it explains the flares quite clearly, you may not agree with the LDE catalog, but most hoaxers do not like facts that destroy their arguments.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead I have the catalog on my computer. I see no reference on page 80 to NASA using Stonyhurst coordinates in the catalog.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 That's not what I said. Do you always see just what you want to see?
Read page 80, it describes the contents of flares.
The Carrington issue is moot, you can stop pretending to understand it, matter a fact it's a pain in the ass way for heliographics.
Continue to consult "ytmoog" as long as you don't try to insult him as you've tried to insult me, he'll help you and maybe someday you'll see the truth as far as Apollo is concerned.
Apollo doesn't equate to 9/11 ya' know....
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead We're not there yet. We're still at you pointing out where in the catalog that it says it uses Stonyhurst coordinates. We'll discuss your other points later.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Show me the algorithm & Carrington formula you used please.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Odd that you never give the equation when asked.
It's simple just show it. Thx.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead No. We're still at you showing me the Stonyhurst coordinate reference in the catalog.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 Stop pretending, you wouldn't know how to calculate the heliographic or the right ascension & declination.
You tried to apply E=mc² to the solar constant for God sakes.
You thought by waving E=mc² around you'd look real smart, but you showed how ignorant you are.
You can't apply the eV energy potential in every atom for a prohibitive issue of space travel.
I know exactly where it says Stonyhurst in the catalog but I'm not gonna' ask for the equation because you don't know it.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Tweekerhead You don't know where it say Stonyhurst in the catalog because you can't point out what page it's on.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
@Daddyo930 No I know where it is, I'm seeing how good your investigative skills are,by the look at it...Ya' know...can't figure out that Apollo was actually real.
If you had even just an incline how to do the Carrington equation you'd simply post it and completely blow me out of the water, then all Apollo believers would sit back and marvel at your intellectual prowess, but alas...
Stop pretending, you & I both know you don't have the capabilities so the carrington issue doesn't prove a thing.
Tweekerhead 4 months ago
@Daddyo930
Please Daddy, go biking for a week or two. Try some fresh air. And after that try to ask a few credentialed physicists at ApolloHoax[.]com to help you calculating. Stop thinking you are smarter than all astrophysicists around the globe. You are NOT Daddy.
Rob260259 4 months ago
@Rob260259 Why are you still yappin? I thought you were done.
Daddyo930 4 months ago
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azsxdc731 4 months ago
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APOLLO FAKE MISSIONS
1968-1972
NASA FAKE SCIENCE
THE TRANSMISSION DELAY TIMES WERE BETWEEN 0 AND I SECOND
FROM THE MOON TO HOUSTON
THE ISS DELAY TIMES ARE BETWEEN 7 AND 8 SECONDS
FROM 220 MILES IN SPACE TO EARTH
SATELLITE TRANSMISSIONS FROM ONE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER TAKE 2.3 SECONDS
NASA FAIL
DeadJesus100 4 months ago
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Check out my video: "The Only Moon Landing Hoax".
azsxdc731 4 months ago
I can see stars in this video, apparently though, astronauts couldn't see stars when they were up there? WTF
sportsportsport 4 months ago
@sportsportsport It isn't stars, it's some "anomalies" in the camera or transmission. Similair "dots" can be seen in several videos, even photographed by the Soviet Lunochods.
YDDES 4 months ago
For those who think the lunar landings were hoaxed, look no further than Dr. Edgar Mitchell. He FIRMLY believes in aliens and was the 6th man to walk on the moon. If anyone from NASA were to scream "conspiracy", it would be him. He hasn't. On that note, go research extra-terrestrial proof. According to NASA, there are 50 BILLION EARTH-LIKE PLANETS in our galaxy alone, while 500 MILLION OF THEM ARE IN THE HABITABLE ZONE. Multiply that by a TRILLION galaxies and intelligent life is 100% guaranteed
james3244 5 months ago
@james3244 Sorry, but we can't say that "extraterrestrial intelligent life is 100% guaranteed". First: We do not now HOW life started on Earth. It can have been a one in a trillion coincident. Second: During 4 billion years of life on Earth, what we call "intelligent life" has occured only ONCE in only ONE place.
So, there is absolutely NO guarantee that there is something we can call "intelligent life" in another place in our galaxy or any other place. Maybe, or maybe not...
YDDES 4 months ago
@YDDES I strongly believe in math and science and it's 100% guaranteed in the eyes of probability. How did life originate on Earth.. that one's easy. EXO-GENESIS. Bacteria from an asteroid or other planetary object struck a young earth. How did all this (the universe) begin? Well that's a different story. You'd have to go quantum/PSEUDO for that one. Study near-death experiences for a couple years and the answer becomes quite clear. Remember, we are all just LIGHT (photons). What is REALity?
james3244 4 months ago