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  • I'm banned from HSUS's facebook cause I didn't agree with their snake ban, that's right they are now funding a snake ban! They don't want pets or any animal research. Go animal welfare! Boo animal rights (i.e. PETA and HSUS)!

    Great video!

  • HSUS does not run a single animal shelter, of the 131 million raised in 2010 only 527,566, or 0.4 percent went to any shelter nationwide while $32 million in hedge funds.

    As local shelters struggle to keep their doors open, HSUS is raising millions of dollars a month from unwitting donors to bankroll an animal rights agenda and fund a huge staff of lawyers and lobbyists, a bloated executive pension plan, and exorbitant fundraising expenses

  • Oh and by the way, HSUS is not a vegan organization. They are calling for the HUMANE treatment of animals. They advocate cage-free eggs. What vegan group would advocate cage-free eggs?

  • @barrybear2011 And see that's why PETA will always be better than HSUS. HSUS is too "in bed with agribusiness" to my liking. They don't care about the abolitionist groups like PETA who do offer REAL change. No, with HSUS you just get more of the same with some sugarcoating.

  • What happened to ubuntu's comments?

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  • @barrybear2011 So you're a provocateur, huh? Fuck you.

  • @ubuntu1104fan ***THANK YOU WAYNE FOR RESPONDING TO THESE! Is there a movement to SHUT DOWN the garbage "MissouriFAC" and "True Animal Caring" are promoting? I would like to see some of our donation money spent to publicly make an example out of them by refuting their lies with facts, which should help bring MORE donations into the fold. THANK YOU!! ***

  • HSUS PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS TOTAL 99-09 TOTAL $16,315,520.00 DONATION TO HELP SHETERS--> $14,822,706.66 HSUS gave MORE $ to their CEO PENSION FUND 10 YRS RUNNING than they gave to help needy shelters out of their avg 100 MILLION $ a yr intake.. Think about it like this In 10 years HSUS took in excess ONE BILLION DOLLARS and gave Approx 14.8 MILLION to help other shelters around 1.4? PERCENT?

  • @darthchaosofrspw2009 Most junk food restaurant funded these manhating hicks and other who didn't fell for their bait.

  • CCF are man haters.

    They are funded by the big tobaccos who kills many people.

    This motherfucker hick asshole Rick Berman uses almost 98% of the money for his pocket.

    They advocate second hands smoking, mercury, pesticides, transfat.

    No wonder why soo many Americans and Canadians are getting fat.

    CCF . Humanewatch are hypocrite, David who founded HW is a drunken asshole who is a convicted drunk.

    They lie and financially exploit people.

    They are crook and attack DARE, Food N drug admin etc.

  • @ubuntu1104fan I choose not to eat meat it has been over 20 years and hope I still won't eat meat. But some people want to eat meat and that is their choosing. And ask any real italian about the mob you are the fool. Also look up petakillanimals wake up please.

  • PETA (PEOPLE EUTHANIZING THE ANIMALS) HAS KILLED 2000++ DOGS AND CATS EVERY YR RUNNING FOR LAST 25 YRS ALL IN NAME OF ETHICAL ANIMAL RIGHTS. THEN HAS NERVE TO CALL NOKILL RESCUERS, BREEDERS AND SO CALLED 'HOARDERS" AN ABUSER? DONT BELIEVE ME? GOOGLE "PETA EUTHANIZATION RATES" THEN ASK SELF ''WHO IS REAL ABUSER HERE? A HOARDER? A BREEDER? A NO KILL RESCUER? OR AN "ETHICAL" ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUP THAT TAKES IN 40 MILLION $ YR TO "SAVE ANIMALS" YET EUTHANIZES BY THE TRUCKLOAD/THOUSANDS?

  • Who cares where the pups come from they just animals

  • @justbrushcreek And so are you, which makes you no better than any other animal on this planet.

  • This is posted by owners of a Missouri Puppy Mill, whose living depends on the abuse and torture of dogs for their own profit. NEVER BUY A PUPPY FROM A PET STORE OR OVER THE INTERNET OR FROM A SIGN IN SOMEONE"S YARD> IF YOU DO YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SUFFERING OF THE PUPPY MILL DOGS

  • Wayne Percell is Mafia, these people are a sick power lobby, get rid of H.S.U.S...

  • Hi! If you haven't seen it yet, be sure and watch the first two videos I just added to my channel--The Dark side of HSUS part 1 and 2 They are short and well worth your time. All dog breeders and pet owners need to see this!

    Former WA Lobbyist Frank Losey provides a very encouraging speech and tells everyone what they need to be doing in order to protect themselves and stop the HSUS in it's tracks --please forward to everyone you can--as EVERYONE needs to see these new videos. Thanks ! :)

  • HSUS ties are to the Camorra is a criminal organization and secret society, originating in Naples in Italy. It is the oldest and largest criminal organizations in Italy, it was started in 18th century. Al Capone was from Brooklyn & his parents were from Castellammare di stabia, this Chicago mob crew is with the HSUS. American's only know about Sicillian mob from movies & TV. Two of New York families are in with them also, and money still goes back to Naples, this is the NWO.

  • I'm not a huge fan of HSUS, but you attempt to link them to that fringe group by citing a "paid advertisement" in the New York Times. A paid advertisement is not a story written by a journalist and can have little to no actual truth in it. You should have cited something else to prove the link...I'm sure that there are other documents out there that show that Paccelle spoke at that group's event.

  • 50 ppl are PETA/HSUS donating suckers.

  • yeah, I tried to post negative posts on HSUS videos. They delete them or dont let them post. Very misleading. There are far more of us than there are of them. We just got to keep fighting against these special interest groups. Thank you for the video and facts. For the IRS break down on HSUS type in HSUS Spending breakdown. There are a lot of sympothetic idiots out there that buy in to their misleading videos and propoganda and line the pockets of those running the HSUS.

  • Here is something fun to do, try posting a comment on any pro-HSUS video...one that might say you don't agree with what the HSUS does. Guess what? It will never appear! Just like Wayne Pacelle's blog only pro-HSUS comments are accepted. The funny thing is HSUS thinks this helps their cause but it does 10 fold damage to them. Wow, I am so excited to see HSUS being investigated by the IRS. Bye bye Wayne. You will not be missed. The animals will start getting donations!! Awesome!

  • Oh, come on, it's a blatantly obvious slander campaign. Do you really think people are that stupid they can't see through it. Anyone who stands up against the cruel practices of greedy corporations will come under attacks like this. Still, they're not going anywhere, it just makes the meat & co industry look even worse for running these slander campaigns instead of fixing the real problem, their shocking record of animal abuse for profit.

  • Under Prop B, responsible breeders will no longer be allowed to buy & administer their own shots/meds. Necessary shots are already costly--but the law would require breeders to load up all their puppies and travel to the vet for EVERY necessary shot/med--exposing young unprotected puppies to needless travel and diseases at the vet clinics. Many vets charge an office call per visit--more needless expenses for reputable breeders already struggling to provide quality puppies at an affordable price

  • It looks like Prop. B is going to cost the taxpayers around $600,000.00 per year(as stated on the actual ballot)!

    Just what we need for a struggling economy, isn't it? Another one of the million reasons to VOTE NO on Prop B!

  • @mglass2020 Before you give your support to Prop B, please take a moment to view the HSUS and PETA videos on My Channel: KnowledgeisPower2011

    These are powerful videos that speak the truth! Well worth your time! There is a way to stop and control "puppymills"-but handing over our rights and freedoms to CORPORATE control is NOT the way. Making our State and USDA people accountable is the way.

    Please also remember there are many abusive pet owners/backyard breeders that need to be stopped!

  • Missouri Voters--Here is your chance to fight back! Nov is coming and we need your Vote! Let's tell the HSUS where it can shove it's law and regulations in Prop B! Hunters, farmers, pet owners---not just responsible breeders should be VERY concerned. We have the Power to change our future! I value my rights! Do You? Say NO to Large Corporations running America! Vote NO on Prop B!

  • Yeah, be concerned, very concerned! Prop B will force breeding facilities to provide dogs with sufficient food and clean water; necessary veterinary care; adequate living space, shelter and exercise; and essential rest between breeding cycles, and prohibit the use of wire kennel flooring and stacked cages.

    Damn those HSUS animal rights extremists! Who the hell do they think they are telling Missouri's 3,000 dog breeders to give their breeding dogs more than 30 inches of cage space!

  • I know a few breeders in Mo that these terrorist groups have came out and shot their dogs. They are dangerous people. They burn down places and kill animals. DANGEROUS! Peta and H$U$ sponsers them! Don't give a dime to these dangerous terrorist evil groups.

  • Is it legal for Wayne Pacelle and the HSUS to engage in lobbying and actively participate in political campaigns like CA Prop 2 and Missouri Prop B?

    Don't federal regulations prohibit non-profit organizations from getting into politics?

  • @JumptheGunzzx we dont care

  • Terrorist group... haha..... that IS laughable. Maybe we should forget the muslims and worry about vegetable eaters!

    TrueAnimalCaring, you're a dummy.

  • Awesome video!!!!

  • Nobody makes more money off "puppymills" than HSUS. Think about it.

  • No human should be drinking cows milk. It is designed for calves not humans.  To neutralise the acid it causes it robs the bones of calcium and is a major reason for osteoporosis. Drink rice milk, it's healthy and tastes great.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX You are an idiot!!

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX Hmmm, that is funny when I milked the cow this morning it didn't look cruel, it didn't scream or kick, or tell me "Hey buddy, don't milk me!".... It didn't even "mooo". By the way I milk my jersey cow by hand, you stupid prick. I am calling you a prick cause you are on the one that "forces your views on others"... by the way learn how to spell "you" it isn't u you lazy turd... Anyone that forces their views on others cause they think they are "better" is just an all around ass.

  • the only way we should thank God is if the HSUS and other animal activist are shut down. our nation is so gullible. im young and i understand this. everyone thinks that they are so into helping animals. thats the biggest lie i ever heard. theres been reports of people from HSUS going t work for farms and actually doing abuse themselves and then take pics of it. last year they used .5% of their money to stop animal cruelty. they can take their advertising and shove it up there ass!

  • @haileygurl1

    you are so right. the only people who know what really goes on is the people who take care of the aninmals. Then some group comes along and thinks they know everything. I tell you what, IF they could shut down animal ag, this country would be worse off than what it is now. Agriculture runs the economy.

    All I can say is THANK GOD I live IN OHIO where we have laws to keep these HSUS fuckers out. Ain't nobody that don't know shit gonna tell me how to raise my steers.

  • @ih1206, Ohio, huh? Figures! The 2009 HBO Documentary film "Death on a Factory Farm" exposed the sick twists in Creston, Ohio on the Wiles Hog Farm, where beer-swilling hillbillies were caught on undercover camera hanging pigs from cranes and letting them dangle for 6 minutes while they thrashed about until they suffocated and died. Another hillbilly hump up there in Ohio threw piglets against the wall and stomped on them.

    You perverts really eed to find another way to get your rocks off.

  • @CDLver funny you mention a show that is tied me as well LOL!

    You look stupid with your responses here. Where you are from CDLver, what state? So I can point something horrible in your state and claim you are the one doing it. I want to be a big bully just like you on the web :)

  • @itfchaos34, I could not care any less than I do where you are from. That is so happens you live in a state where drunken farm workers hang pigs for entertainment is inconsequential.

    The HSUS liberated 200 dogs from a hoarder in Alabama this week. Just one rescue of hundreds that they do every year: they employ the staff of field workers, transporters, vets, and provide financial assistance (FUNDING), to their PARTNER shelters who take these animals in and place them in forever homes.

  • @CDLver Wrong again as usual. HSUS only shows up to get "pictures" with neglected animals so they are the ones in the "press" looking like they did it. The fact is they show up with their fancy trucks they used donations for animals for. They use those trucks to pick up neglected animals and then drive them to the local shelter/humane society so they can put their money / vets to work on it. They local humain society or shelter is no way a "partner" or affiliated with HSUS.

  • @itfchaos34, wrong. The Missouri Humane Society was critical in their assistance while the HSUS conducted the largest raid upon a single dogfighting operation. They provided the housing, care, and evaluations for some 400 dogs, many of whom were placed in forever homes, which was funded by the HSUS.

    You read like a Center for Consumer Freedom billboard: no credibilty nor can you prove a single of your nonsensical and baseless accusations.

  • @CDLver The "Missouri Humain society" is in no way affiliated with HSUS. HSUS trasported and drop off dogs to Missouri Humane society that HSUS picked up from a seize, which was all started by animal activist in the local area. I live in Missouri and am well aware of the case you are talking about. HSUS did not fund it, the most they spent was their gas money in those fancy trucks they purchased with donations provided to them by people thinking it is going to help animals.

  • @itfchaos34, Oh, yes this is about eating meat. You are blinded by your anger at the HSUS for their protection of factory farmed animals. How frustrating for you. That you love your dog, eat pigs, and wear cows does not mean that those animals are less deserving of the HSUS's help.

    Meat eaters, hunters, dog and cock fighters, animal skin wearers, and circus-goers do not get to point their finger in the HSUS's face. You have no credibility.

  • @CDLver Where you live is relavent cause I want to act like an internet bully like you. I mean according to your thinking here on these post you have been making, "EVERYONE" in ohio must kill pigs like that if one of them did it. You are a true tool... thanks for proving my point about how almost all "pro HSUS" people are extremist vegans. Thanks for trying to force your "veganism beliefs" on all of us that don't want a part in it :)

  • @itfchaos34, ah, so that is it -- veganism. You mask your hatred of the HSUS behind Center for Consumer Freedom propaganda. How typical. This is not about your affection for shelter dogs or the fact that you claim the HSUS does not fund shelters. You think that the HSUS wants to take away your McDonalds dollar menu delicacies -- big macs, chicken nuggets, and sausge muffins, huh?

    Eat all of that toxic food that you wish. It is of no consequence to the HSUS.

  • @CDLver Veganism has nothing to do with me, it is all about you. That is why you are here defending HSUS cause you are a vegan. That is why I brought it up, cause I know your propaganda. Mcdonalds?? eww...

    I can prove your stupid all day long, but unlike you I really do help some animals. I have to meet transport today to have 7 dogs moved up to the New England area. I do this on a weekly basis, we are a small organization but we help about 20 animals a week for the past 10 years. Gooday....

  • @itfchaos34, great, you transport and find homes for homeless animals! But what are you doing about the wild horse roundups and the killing of America's majestic wolves and bison of Yellowstone? These animals, which the HSUS has long protected, are being removed from their rightful habitat so that welfare ranchers can grase their livestock on this wildlife's federally protected land for a buck-fifty per cow. Animals are dying and it is meat-eaters fault. You are an animal killer.

  • @itfchaos34, if you want to eat the diseased animal carcasses of cows who were fed euthanised shelter animals, chicken shit, and the pus-oosing skins from pigs all wrapped up in highball antibiotic concoction to kill the bacteria that ravages their flesh, then by all means, eat it.

    Vegans are not telling you that you cannot eat that slop, but that you ought not to.

  • @ih1206, yes, thanks be to G_d that you live in Ohio, where drunken rednecks who hang farm animals by a crane are acquitted of animal cruelty charges because death by hanging is considered humane, and punching baby piglets is a permissble form of hillbilly stress-alleviation.

    You folk are truely a sordid subspecies.

  • But you kill animals when you eat meat !!! moron you are the bad guy not them!

  • Go Wayne!!! We need to stope animal abuse anyway we can. Thank God for the HSUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • LOL 'terrorist group' - spin twist and mislead by people with something to lose.

  • LOL

  • i can't speak for this issue but know them to help and care for animal welfare in a big way....so i think it's a big jump to say "the animals you care for never get the care they desperately need."

  • You REALLY need to watch "Your mommy kills animals" its on the interweb, and i think it will change your perspective of the SHAC 7

  • Judges need to stop signing bogus warrants for the hsus to raid the pitbull owners property! They slander them by saying they have under fed dogs in which 9 out of ten times this isn't true! I have had friends that have had their dogs taken and killed before they even went to court! They really love animals! They like killing them in the name of HUMANE!

  • the Humane society is a corrupt organization that does jack SHIT to help animals....all they are trying to do is screw over middle america, small towns, and farmers while playing the pitiful commercials that make rich city folk think by donating they ACTUALLY are helping animals....HSUS CAN TAKE THEIR BANK ACCOUNT AND SHOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Someone will hopefully assasinate him and john goodwin one day....this is one of the reasons I decided not to join the military after high school,because I was going to fight for this country that doesnt give me any freedom to do what I want to with my animals!

  • To produce milk a cow must give birth. FACT. The calf is removed at one day old and for the next few months is tied up in solitary confinement in a crate, fed an iron free liquid diet and then slaughtered for veal Other methods are to shoot them straight away or collect the heifers together and deprive them of their mother. Milk production is cruel and humans have no need for it.

  • have you actually ever seen the process for yourself, or just look it up, find it on wikipedia!

  • WIKIPEDIA........To maintain high milk production, a dairy cow must be bred and produce calves. Depending on market conditions, the cow may be bred with a dairy bull or a beef bull.

    YES I'VE WORKED ON A STUD FARM THAT HAD COWS TOO. IKNOW THE WHOLE PROCESS.

  • Dairy cows must give birth in order to keep their milk flowing, but any dairy farmer who would treat a calf of cow in the fashion that you mentioned earlier, is not one that I would like to meet.

  • I'm afraid that you are sadly mistaken. Maybe you should visit an actual dairy farm to see how things are done!

  • The world has very few "Dairy farms " What it has are factory farms. I suggest you visit one and see how things are done.

  • I cannot debate the fact that a cow must bear a calf in order to produce milk.  This is an obvious statement. The rest of your statement, however, is of questionable origin. An iron free diet would be a bit counter-productive to the process of raising the calf. HSUS is not a valuable source of information on dairy farming for the record. An agricultural school library may lead you to more reputable sources for proper herd management.

  • Veal is very pale meat and how is this achieved? By giving the calf a substitute iron free milk diet. Do some homework . I don't suggest an agricultural library. They deliberately hold the cruelty info hidden . The HSUS gets the thruth out. Their investigation of westmark and the appalling cruelty to sick downer cows was mind boggling.

    There is virtually nothing left to be called dairy farming, it's confined factory farming.

  • I guess feeding dairy calves with bottles of milk 2 times a day and reading the labels on the products used isn't considered "doing my homework" for you, but HSUS also makes statements directly against the CDC and WHO (refer to their statement about H1N1 and the direct correlation to agriculture then read CDC and WHO statements about them). There is no correlation to HSUS and "the truth."

  • Look everybody knows the only way to produce veal is to feed calves an iron free diet. Fact.

    The reason you are against the HSUS is because they are continuously working on legislation to improve the conditions factory farm animals are kept in. The industries who produce animals for eating don't want improvemnts as it would cost them money.

    HSUS is a brilliant org. they are rich , powerfull and thank god for animals we have them.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    its always the bad dairy farms that get put into public. never the thousands of great ones. HSUS is trying to shut down animal agriculture. do your homework. they are liein strait to your face. they are try getting little kids to be scared of farms by false advertising. their goal is for a vegetarian nation. do you want that? if we dont step up and defend are farming and show the public how we really treat our animals kindly then animal activist are going to take over our world.

  • @haileygurl1 The HSUS is working to put an end to the cruelty of factory farming, which dominate in the production of animals for consumption. There is no false advertising and "little kids" need to be made aware of the cruelty that goes on. I would love animal agriculture to end. People have no need to eat animals. Your ideas of treating animals kindly is not my idea of the same. People knocking the HSUS are always those profiting from animals. I am proud of the HSUS .

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    no lil kids need to aware of the truth.PETA works w/ HSUS & they make stickers like fake is better im no sweater with a sheep on it.youd be surprised at how many kids think sheep have to be killed for wool.they r liein to kids and dont think i hate animals cuz i love em & im all for stoppin dog fights and stuff like that but liein about animal agriculture which has been in my life as long as i can remember is wrong.you shoudl look into the HSUS more to see what they r really like

  • @haileygurl1 You don't have the faintest idea what your talking about, when Australian sheep are spent they get packed on ships by the millions every year to the middle east and when there they are subjected to appalling torture by muslims. No the HSUS does not lie about the cruelty in factory farms. Without them working for animals people like you would be letting all these animals be subjected to cruelty. So keep it up HSUS.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    ya thats MUSLIMS! not AMERICANS. and yes they do to lie about cruelty. and do not ever insult my intelligence. ive done my research on this topic very deep and i am siding against them. these bastards need to be fought. we need to stand up for our rights as well as the animals. many farms could be shut down for another farms mistake. thats not fair at all

  • @haileygurl1 The AMERICANS are supporting this cruelty by BUYING and WEARING THESE WOOL PRODUCTS. Let all farms be shut down, we don't need to eat animals. You can find NO LIE about animal cruelty made by the HSUS. All your interested in is making money from animals and trying to keep the cruelty hidden. Won't work ,  the HSUS will see to that.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX YOu are clearing an idiot!! HSUS on gives 1% to animal shelters. I am a farm wife. God put animals on this farm to be food for the HUNGRY. I like my meat. Eating too many veggies gives me GAS!! Farmers cannot be shut down. IF you did just imagine how many other people would be out of business.

  • @leahwayne1 What your god did is of no interest to me. Neither is your digestive system. Fact ...The HSUS is doing a great job for animals especially those in factory farms  .Why would the HSUS give a whole load of money to shelters? America abandons 10million pets a year and the only way to help shelters is not to buy puppies, adopt , stop breeding and most of all stop abandoning them.

    Of course you don't like the HSUS they expose the cruelty the farming industry wants kept secret.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX Seems like you accept everything HSUS tells you. Be more educated, do the math on their IRS tax returns. That will assist you in what their true agenda really is. Please don't make comments before getting the facts. To do so makes you look uneducated. Thank you.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    Ok first of all Fuck you asshole. You need to pull your head out of your ass and find out what really really goes on with your food. There isn't a DAMN thing wrong with todays animal agriculture practices. They are for the farmers safety, the animals safety, and to keep food prices reasonable for consumers. Why don't you fucken tree hugging hippies go to a real farm and learn something- WE TREAT OUR ANIMALS WITH RESPECT.

  • @ih1206, America's food supply is a bacteria-infested cesspool of contaminated meat and animal products produced from sick and diseased animals who spend their miserably short lives knee-deep in their own excrement, are fed chicken litter floor slop (1 billion pounds of chicken shit every year), and the ground up bodies of euthanised shelter animals.

    If you do not think that there is a damn thing wrong with eating that toxic concoction, then by all means...bon appétit

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    or they'll just make it all up and pay lawyers to say its real

  • @TheChoujinVirus  proof is on countless films.

  • No animal wishes to be "farmed" and no animal should be imprisoned and treated cruelly the whole of their lives. People should realise they have no need to eat animals and support the cruelty of producing them.

  • Yes there are many people who have animals they don't care about but there are more people who do care about their animals. What you seem to be saying is that it doesn't matter if another few million animals are starving and cold, but wouldn't it be better to improve the lives of a few animals instead of none?

  • It doesn't matter if a few million are starving and cold??? What is the woman talking about?

  • Thats what you seem to be implying

  • I also can't imagine chickens being able to look after themselves in the wild.

  • Neither can i and i hope you won't be turning any out in the wild.

  • Farmers can't exactly afford to keep cows as pets, they need to at least be able to milk the cows, otherwise it's becomes rather difficult to look after the cows.

  • People don't need to drink milk meant for calves. The calf is brutally removed from it's mother at one day old, tied up in a crate the rest of it's life and then slaughtered for veal. Disgusting cruelty.

  • Dairy cows do not need to have calves to give milk, in fact it releives them when they are milked, they cannot function properly if they are not milked, and if calves were taken from their mother at one day old their would not be enough meat to feed a bird. Get your facts right, it's pretty clear your a townie or an inner city person who has no idea about life in a rural environment.

  • Paul McCartneys wife had the same veiws as the HSUS, she was against any type of animals testing, she got cancer and took drugs and medicines that had been tested on animals, it's different when it's life and death. I disagree with testing cosmetics on animals, people can live without cosmetics, but right now any other forms of animal testing for illnesses are too unpredictable, the least scientists can do is make sure the animal is as comfortable as possible.

  • You misunderstand completely. Of course people should taKe drugs and medicines. The animals are dead they tested on, won't bring them back. How ever people can work to get all the testing stopped now. There are far superior methods today. The torture these animals go through is HORRIFIC.

  • Unfortunately these 'far superior' methods are not yet reliable enough

  • It's the animal testing that is unreliable!! ALL drugs have to be tested on humans before release anyway. The cruelty and torture of animals in testing has to be seen to be believed. It is barbaric.

  • I know animal testing is unreliable, but it's the most reliable choice we have at the moment, we need to make the drugs as safe as we can before they are tested on animals, I know animal testing is cruel, that why I think the laws do have to be revised.

  • Why don't you do some proper research on the subject? Computer progs, stem cells and In Vitro are far superior.  Scientisrs hang on to animal testing as it's filling their pockets. Govs make money on it too, thats why they keep it going. Thank god for the HSUS who expose the cruelty and force the govs to face up to it.

  • Every body in the UK is educated about animal testing, don't you worry I have done proper research and have formed my opinion

  • No they are not, the huntingdon lab exposure proved that. Your research has not been good enough .  Imagine ANYONE supporting such torture.

  • They are trying to change the laws on animal rights, yes animals need to be treated well and given good living conditions even if they are being farmed but trying to change the law so that you can't eat meat isn't quite guiding people away from it. And I expect that that pack of dogs were starving and would do anything to have a meal because thats whats in their nature to do.

  • If the HSUS care so much about bandoned animals then they should open up shelters to support this.The HSUS is the richest most powerfull 'Human Society' in the world and they have enough money to open up shelters in every single state in the US with plenty of money left over yet they have not one.

  • No they shouldn't, the gov already pays 4 billion dollars to fund shelters. Whats it going to help sheltering 10's of millions of abandoned animals and more coming. The HSUS ATTACKS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM , PEOPLE ABANDONING, OVER BREEDING , PUPPY MILLS ETC. THESE SHELTER ANIMALS GET EUTHANISED IN THEIR MILLIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO NEW HOMES.

  • The HSUS needs to create laws to keep the puppy mills and dog fighters from becoming successfull, not make it harder for the general public

  • The HSUS can't create laws, the gov. does that . The HSUS works to get them to do this. Where the HSUS is making it harder for the general public i can't imagine !! The general public is causing the problems lol

  • The HSUS is attacking the genral public more then they are attacking the puppy mills.

  • Yes probably , the general public are a heartless lot, humans are a cruel species.

  • In South Georgia a woman was taking a walk when she was attacked by a pack of wild dogs, she was killed and eaten her husband went to look for her and was also killed and eaten by the same pack! Theres you evidence.

  • The HSUS wants to ban people owning any pets at all, along with eating meat! They want to control the world and are con-men. They have lied to America to get enough money to try to change laws to suit their desires. What are we going to do with our animals if the HSUS get their way if we turn them loose the dogs will go hungry, catch rabies and mange, form packs and attack humans because it is in their nature to eat meat.

  • False The HSUS has no wish to stop people being guardians of pets and NOWHERE can you produce evidence of it. BAN? people from eating animals? They of course hope to guide people away from eating animals because of the cruelty involved and because people don't need to eat animal flesh. Please don't turn your animals loose, the HSUS is specifically working to stop people doing this. 10 MILLION ARE ALREADY ABANDONED EVERY YEAR.

  • I care about animals, please don't even imply that I don't because if I didn't care for animal welfare I wouldn't own animals and I wouldn't refuse to eat eggs from caged hens. The facts is that the HSUS are trying to be very controlling, they don't want people to breed animals at all -I can understand trying to stop puppy mills and dog fighting but that doesn't mean you have to stop everyone from breeding animals.

  • tLots of people have animals they don't care about. If you cared you wouldn't be eating eggs. ALL eggs are produced from cruelty. NOWHERE can you produce evidence that the HSUS wants people to stop breeding but obviously with the overpopulation crisis it needs to be controlled.

  • What you just said there proves that the HSUS is controlling and ignorant, what do you expect people to do? Chickens naturally produce eggs any way, fertilised or not, if your saying that chickens are cruelly kept then what is kindly kept in your opinion?

  • ALL chicks that end up in production are sorted on a conveyor belt . The males are ground up alive.  The only kind way to keep chicken is as family pets you have bred yourself. Chickens in the egg industry, are de beaked without pain killers and kept in warehouses so tightly packed they can hardly move, pumped with growth hormones and live a miserable life. The slaughter process is also HORRIFIC.

  • I don't agree with that either, that the whole point of free range eggs, the chickens live natural healthy lives, with plenty of space. Whats your idea of a farmer? A bussinessman who runs cicken slaighter houses? Because just to clear up a few things farmers live in the country side and give their animals freedom and look after their animals well. But they also make their living on farming the land.

  • My family have been farmers for countless generations, and we do not de beak our chickens, or abuse and neglect our cows, sheep or horses.

  • There we have it your involved in the cruelty yourself. Probably your sheep are happy enough but milk cows no.What sort of rider you are i couldn't say but many horses are abused by bad riding.

  • Please tell me how milking cows is cruel, if you are worrying about people milking cows then you need to get your head out of the clouds and focus on the real problems in the world. I can see where you are coming from when you say many horses are abused by bad but people's ideas of bad riding vary unfortunately.

  • I already told you, the calf is removed , causing great distress and then it's crated up for veal, shot or if it's a heifer collected up with others and deprived of it's mother. Yes well i have worked with horses up to Grand Prix level and know whats bad riding or not.

  • Dairy cows do not give birth to young ones they produce milk by themselves. The HSUS also wishes to stop people from competing andshowing horses and other animals.

  • Now your making a fool of yourself ! A cow MUST give birth to produce milk. They are obviously whipped away before you even see it. NO The HSUS does NOT want to stop competitions or suchlike, they want to stop cruelty. If it's you on "henry" then although he seems to be going quite happily, he is completely on his forehand and heavy in your hands. He needs work to get him using his hind end to lighten the forehand.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    your dumb. the calves are usually taken well care of with other calves as well. and yes ive done my homework and been on numerous dairy farms. its just like airplanes. thousands fly safely all over the world but you only hear about the 1 that didnt make it safely. just like dairy farms. and humans do need milk from cows for our bones. not all dairy farms are bad and like factory farms.

  • Free range means not in a cage. I don't believe in farming animals. There are VERY few old fashioned farmers now. 90% OF ANIMALS IN PRODUCTION are in factory farms. Farmers can produce corn and veg instead of animals.

  • I know what free range means, and the word farming comes from the word farmers, it's not that hard to firgure out.

  • The only reason you are here lieing about the HSUS is because they EXPOSE the cruelty of farming. The word free range is a sham. All it requires to use the word is they are not in cages.

  • Please give me your idea of a perfect farm

  • Or if you don't agree with the word farm then the cosest thing to free range eggs, the idea eggs are those raised by people in their gardens or family feilds

  • One that farms vegetables.

  • You are trying to force your ideas onto others, another pawn of the HSUS

  • Not ideas.....the thruth.

  • Thats exactly what I mean

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  • I think the thruth should be rammed down everyones throats.

  • And please explain how milking cows is cruel when it is the only way to releive them.

  • Give them back their calves who are meant to have the milk not humans who have no need for it. Almond milk is healthier and tastes great.

  • Please read the comment I have just written. I assume that if you have worked horses to the top level then you would have used leather to make the tack for your horses and the leather riding boots you might have had to use? Or did you manage to find fake leather saddles?

  • Of course you can find alternatives for virtually anything. I can't say i never have used leather because i have but then i learnt the thruth of the cruelty i supported and changed of course.

  • Don't worry we are working on it, he is four years old. We like to get our horses working long and low so that they will start to use their hind end, before we start to work on bringing them up and round.

  • Thats good but your hanging on his mouth too much. Now i'm off to bed. I hope you won't lie any more about the HSUS they are doing a great job for animals world wide.

  • Just look up dairy cows!

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    how do you get those kind of statistics?

    were is 90% coming from? i sure as hell no hundreds of farmers who take good care of there animals. if they didnt then their animals wouldnt produce right cuz they arent happy. and if we didnt milk the hefers then they would be in pain of a full utter. ever had a full utter? i promise you its not comfortable for the cows. so its necessary

  • @haileygurl1 Give the cow back it's calf then.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    it would be more traumatic for the calves to be taken away from their mothers twice a day.when they r with the other calves they dont think bout being with their mother when they r growin up.i dont think its right to have the hefers always have calves to just produce milk but when they have calves they have to be taken away so they can milk.and the hefers get used to the babies bein taken away after 24 hrs.ive seen em do it.the last thing they wanna do is make a big deal outta it

  • @haileygurl1 Bullshit, it's a very traumatic thing for a cow and its calf to be separated. People don't need cows milk. It's bad for humans but good for farmers pockets.  Don't try telling me about animals, i know all about them.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX

    obviously you don't. milk is crucial for our brain and bone development. and its nothing that the cows and calves wont recover from. and what are you a doctor and a farmer? cuz obviously you dont knoe bout either. ive done research topics on this tons of times. and the milk market it low right now. so there isnt alot of money in the milking business right now.

  • @haileygurl1 Hahahaha, milk is not crucial at all to anything for humans. Don't be ridiculous. Drink rice milk it's much healthier.

  • you are a fucking retard. animals have no point in their existence. if they are alive it doesnt mean shit. if they are dead it doesnt mean shit. so we may as well get some use out of them by eating the fuck out of em. do you have any idea how much more cruel it is for them to be eaten in the wild? they get eaten ALIVE. it sucks that they have to go through pain, but honestly, who gives a fuck? the way they are slaughtered is a thousand times more humane than for them to be eaten in the wild.

  • @xAeschylusx come back when you have something thruthfull and credible to say.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX Seems like you accept everything HSUS tells you. Be more educated, do the math on their IRS tax returns. That will assist you in what their true agenda really is. Please don't make comments before getting the facts. To do so makes you look uneducated. Thank you.

  • @JUMPTHEGUNZZX HSUS is all about $ in their pocket Wayne Pacelle's is paid $269,180 plus $30,316 Retirement compensation annually

    Total revenue $101.6 million

    Total expenses $121.7 million

    Salaries & benefits $35.8 million

    Pension contributions $2.6 million

    Fundraising expenses $22.3 million-23% of every dollar raised

    Grants to other groups $6.7 million

    Grants to ballot-initiative political front groups: $1.95 million

    Funds passed through HSUS to "Humane Society International": $2.7 million