Christian/Cannabis Challenge Part 2 Tree of Knowledge?

[OnlyCreationism]

I'm a huge advocate of marijuana for both medicinal and spiritual use. It has nothing on iboga, however for the discernment of good from evil. That being said I am not convinced that even iboga fits the biblical description of the tree of knowledge. Which, sad to say leaves cannabis sorely wanting to fit the premice of this video.

[guitardemon177]

this guy is smart



[robbiek77]

I have the answer!

Follow your ten commandments and smoke pot and Orange juice for taste.

The tree of knowledge will be awarded to thee who will become closer to god. And with time god will indeed give you the answers you seek and bring you closer to him.

I have been given the gift of eternal life with the good life that I led. Through pot did I find the true way and understanding.

[chrisn9ne]

So what do you think about the fact that Cannabis can cure cancer? And the fact that our freemasonic government fears this plant so strongly makes me think its a good thing.

[SaviorGeneration]

@chrisn9ne

truly, the cure for cancer has existed since the beginning of time. the cannabis cure re-discovered by Rick Simpson is only one of the many methods (Gerson, Hoxsey, etc).

[kharma79696]

your dead wrong God wanted us to use kaneh bosm (Cannabis) the tree of knowledge was cut off from humanity by a cherubim with a fiery sword if your claiming it is cannabis theres nothing to support it but i will agree cannabis is good so i urge you to redo your video until you can prove cannabis is the tree of knowledge because one can just as easily say its the tree of life but wheres the proof the only truth is cannabis is aloud by the bible and thats it

[SaviorGeneration]

wrong. the tree of LIFE was "cut off from humanity". not the tree of knowledge.

now, we need HIS SALVATION, he is the "tree" of eternal life.

however, this is just a theory, if you can DISPROVE it using scripture, please do. however, according to the scriptures, my theory stands strongly. i agree i should redo my videos, but i think i've proven without a doubt that STRONG MEAT exercise your senses to discern GOOD & EVIL (what the tree of knowledge was stated as doing )

[carrick63]

I admire your passion and think you make VERY interesting films. I say this as a consumer of cannabis and a Christian.

I would be eager to know your views on 9/11. I, like yourself, assume you know the basics on a subject before you comment.

The end is coming. I'm not sure whether I want to be stoned when it does...?

[eyesoverskies]

I disagree and dont have room here to state my case in full and with Scripture. So I will go with this as starters...

you dont use drugs to get close to God. its moot. I am not against using some drugs really, but not to get close to God in any way. thats error for sure. we ONLY need God's Word...

Jesus said, I AM the way the Truth and the Life, NO MAN COMES to the FATHER but by Me.

John 10 tells us that anyone who comes in any other way is a thief and a liar and that Jesus is the Door.

[SaviorGeneration]

This is not my opinion, friend.

Read and then re-read

HEBREWS 5 : 12-14 ... it CLEARLY states that STRONG MEAT has a purpose - exercising your senses to discern good and evil... or "getting close to God" as you so eloquently put it.

If you are saying it doesn't, then you either

A) don't actually READ the scriptures.

B) are directly contradicting the scriptures, choosing to "play God" instead of "getting close" to Him.

If you still don't get it watch the video again.

[SaviorGeneration]

A side note - ask any respected scholar, researcher, or even a common idiot with the internet, and they will admit that the letter J was not part of ANY ALPHABET SYSTEM until about 1500 YEARS AFTER THE MESSIYAH WAS MURDERED. therefore, how could his name have been "Jesus"?

[heiney69]

false... obviously ur the idiot because the original and sacred name of jesus was first known as yahshua in hebrew and through the years has been translated and derived from yahshua in hebrew to iesous in greek then iseous again in latin but with different stress on syllables then to jesus in english maybe u should do more research

[SaviorGeneration]

sorry friend, PROPER NAMES are NEVER translated. "Barack Obama" is still BARACK OBAMA, no matter what language/country/etc. therefore, YAH'SHUA is NOT the same as "Jesus". this is a simple fact.  everyone knows proper/personal names aren't translated.

[TrickyDOTcom]

also ask yourself why, almost every country this "drug" is legal but not in the US???

[arodriguez925]

eyesoverskies, I see what you are trying to say, but you quote Yahshua out of context. He was refering to salvation. I cannot speak for anyone else, but I attest to the fact that cannabis has helped me to get closer to God through bringing me closer to Yahshua/Jesus. Try reading the bible after eating some of God's herb to see what I mean.

[eyesoverskies]

The bible is clear that the TREE of the knowledge of good and evil was a TREE. A tree is perennial (lives a LONG time or more than 2 seasons) whereas an annual or bi-ennial lives for one season and usually re-seeds to grow the following season. MJ is not a tree. also noteworthy, MJ cannot be the tree of Life in Revelation because that tree is a tree also & bears 12 different types of fruit. MJ bears good smeelin bud fruit. The tree in Revelation has not been created yet IMO.

[SaviorGeneration]

"TREE" is defined as a plant that has many branches supported by a single main stem that grows straight up on a hard stalk/trunk, not out to the sides on a vine like a squash plant. Therefore, it is indeed a TREE!

As for lifespan - Cannabis plants can live FOREVER, let alone 2 years, if grown in a region where they receive more than 12 hours of light per day.

Lastly - my video clearly states I am referring to the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE mentioned in GENESIS, not tree of life in Revelation.

[patsk8freak]

have u had expeirence w/ this? jw

[SaviorGeneration]

not sure what you mean...

make sure you check out C/C C - Part 1

and my new NJWEEDMAN docu.

(search for SaviorGeneration on Vimeo to watch all my videos FULL LENGTH - youtube only allows the first 10 minutes)

[foxdragon84]

real talk man!!

[youknowImsaying]

well ,it seems that u smoke good weed mate really, but infact time ago I was beliaving the fruit of knoldge is psilocybin mushrooms.. your thought on that?

[Hivequik]

what about a mushroom im a tree? lol, i believe mushrooms were a big part of god and we should embrace them, but no... they are not the tree of good and evil.

[foxdragon84]

shrooms are not seed bearing or an herb so......

[sacralith]

Romans 14

2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him

6 ...He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks

Mat 15: 11 It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man

[SaviorGeneration]

TRUTH!

thanks for the SCRIPTURAL comment!

keep spreading HIS WORD!

[ddykema82834]

This is great stuff savior, I`m a ex-pot smoker, and still want to, but I`m having trouble reaching back for it, because I still have my doubts but your points are great. And I know your a good christian man. I`m still scared, but will keep searching.

[SaviorGeneration]

do not be scared. he has not given us a spirit of fear but of TRUTH. the truth is nothing to be afraid of.

the day that someone presents to me irrefutable truth that the creator did NOT make this plant for humans to use is the day i will stop using it. until then, i will continue to live as the scriptures have instructed in Genesis 1:29 - HE has given us EVERY HERB BEARING SEED UPON THE FACE OF ALL THE EARTH to use.

[ddykema82834]

tx for the reply savior, the scriptures tell us nothing in this world is unclean if you do not doubt it, and give thanksgiving. You have no doubts in your partaking, so you are clearly without sin. Unfortunalty for me, my doubts keep me from partaking with you, because the scriptures also say we are to submit to govering athorities. So for me, until its legalized in Michigan, I`m afriad my hands are tied. (however all points about marjana being made illigal for false reasons are valid.)

[SaviorGeneration]

verily i say unto you brother, the ONLY "governing authority" that exists on this planet is the WORD OF YHWH, not the word/laws of men AKA "doctrines of devils" (1 Tim. 4)

should we ever submit to men's laws? the obvious answer should be a resounding, NO. history has shown us that when the masses submit to laws that contradict the word of YHWH (cannabis prohibition, "legalized" racism/hate/slavery, etc) the end result is genocide and/or slavery/prison camps.

[SaviorGeneration]

throughout time, the laws of men have repeatedly gone against the word of YHWH.

for example: in America, for nearly 500 years from its conception to about the 1960s, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of Black Africans were SLAUGHTERED.

it was not a crime, in fact it was encouraged!

hitler did the same on a smaller scale in europe, except he choose many minorities instead of just Africans.

these were the DIRECT RESULT of people "submitting to men's laws" instead of submitting ONLY to the WORD of YHWH!

[NewOldSalt]

iPod=God... groan.

I love "Echoes" though! "Fearless" is my favorite song on that album.

[SaviorGeneration]

take each letter of the word " iPod "

and then view them "through the looking glass" (in layman's terms: the rotated reflection, or the inverse )

i = !

P = d

o = o

d = g

get it? they purposefully named it this.

its how they get us to worship their idols ignorantly, in plain sight.

so groan all you want, but indeed :

iPod = god!

[NewOldSalt]

If a puny under-powered and low memory iPod equates to "god," what does that make an 8 core CPU with terrabytes of RAM and petabytes of RAID? :-)

POD (band) uses it as an acronym for "Payable On Death." Should I re-think what *they* mean?

Then what does it mean if I have POD on my iPod?! :-)

Even if Apple had some sinister naming intention, which I doubt, I can completely ignore it, and view/use an iPod any way I wish. This is parallel to your emphasis with marijuana. See Titus 1:15.

[SaviorGeneration]

ANY OBJECT that you place such life or death importance on, is a form of worship.

some have no problem STEALING even KILLING for these pieces of plastic (or for $ - money is a worshiped idol.)

remember: the scriptures warn of IDOLS, not just one, so there are MANY! {Revelation 9:20}

whether it was intentional or not, it is UNDENIABLE that those letters " iPod " when reversed/rotated on its axis spells " god! "

and it is UNDENIABLE that people obsess even WORSHIP their iPod (i've seen it)

[NewOldSalt]

I have no disagreement with you. We're on the same team bro'!

However, just because someone gets are crazy over an iPod doesn't mean everyone should ditch the iPod. This is the same logic we use against those pushing their anti-marijuana religion on the rest of us.

Also known as "don't throw the baby out with the bath water." For example I've recorded myself reading scripture and put it on my iPod. I use it for God's glory. I don't worship it. But I'm glad I have one. It's a tool.

[SaviorGeneration]

exactly, (almost) everything in this world can be used for good or evil.

however, when we begin to worship the CREATION and not the CREATOR (the Heavenly Father, not corporate entities) is when we get into trouble.

i have a 60gb Zen Vision:M - i am sure people can get just as fanatical over that, or any other man-made devices and gadgets. i only made it a point to expose the iPod because its the most blatantly obvious.

[NewOldSalt]

Here is some more scripture to make your/my point :-)

Matthew 23:16-19

In other words, it's not the object itself that should be admired...

[SaviorGeneration]

PS - an iPod is in no way parallel to a plant placed here by the CREATOR OF EARTH. unless you consider steve jobs and apple computers "god-like" for their invention?

"I can completely ignore it, and view/use an iPod any way I wish." - WOW. imagine if we all took this attitude with everything in life. like rape/murder/etc. careful, that doctrine is BORDERLINE HERESY!

Isaiah 2:8 - Their land is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:

[NewOldSalt]

Dude. Don't beat the servants.

Using an iPod or owning one is not an infringement on other people's rights. It harms no one. It doesn't even harm me. In fact, like I said, I use it for the glory of God, to listen to scripture I've recorded, as well as my own songs I wrote to give glory to God.

Clearly rape/murder/etc... are ills against others and God.

But singing to God is pleasing to him.

[SaviorGeneration]

Psalm 115:4 - Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.

1John 5:21 - Little children, keep yourselves from idols

Revelation 9:20 - And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues (CANCER/AIDS/etc) yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood (AND OF PLASTIC) which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk.

[Violencedefined666]

So..I'm going to go to hell for smoking cannibus?

[SaviorGeneration]

If this statement is your honest conclusion after watching C/CC, then you need to:

A) watch parts 1 and 2 again

B) get your head checked

[Violencedefined666]

Well, I didnt watch part 1 =/ my bad. Whats this all about anyway, if you dont mind me asking that is.

[SaviorGeneration]

it's pretty self explanatory honestly.

i guarantee if you watch parts 1 and 2, in their entirety, you will understand exactly what it's all about...

forget all the "just say no" propaganda and let the spirit of truth lead you.

[precisepro]

i like your argument but your forgettin something.. there was 2 threes they couldnt eat from.. if you read close . there is the three of knowledge of good and evil and then theres the three of life.. cuz if they had tried the three of life.. they would have never died... thats why they got expulsed from the garden .. so they wouldnt eat from the three of life.. but i like your study though.. very deep and interesting.. keep it up...

[SaviorGeneration]

you are right, they were cast out of the garden so they could not eat from the tree of life...

however the tree that the serpent tempts them to consume was the tree of KNOWLEDGE (which is what this specific study is about).

since there is no plant (to my knowledge) that will grant everlasting life, i can only assume this was a figurative "tree" (or the tree mentioned in the book of Revelation).

[roneythetube]

great stuff. thanks

[kbswails88]

feeling the light go through my lenses, go through the dark hole which is my pupil, and go through my optic nerve to the back of my brain to where my consciousness rests in my the crown of my skull. I thought that it was evil (for lack of a better word) that I understood these certain things, which are impossibly hard to describe, especially through text, for a second hand point of view... I felt enlightened. I want to be outside. I will laugh and love and live with no ill intent. Persecution?

[SaviorGeneration]

You hit the nail on the head, my friend!

Cannabis Prohibition is the modern-day manifestation of RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION of all Bible believers.

In the past they would burn-at-the-stake, crucify, and behead us for our beliefs.

Now, we are no longer murdered

(well, sometimes: Les Crane / Chris Giauque)

but rather we are "slow killed", sent to rot away locked in a cage until death through legalized slavery known as prison by injustice system.

Peace, Truth, and Love to you all.

[kbswails88]

theres a reason i specifically youtubed* marijuana the tree of knowledge?... I smoke marijuana and I am a Christian. I dove deep into myself and my own thoughts and actually felt myself switch brain hemispheres and change which of my eyes were dominant. it scared me. I understood the symmetry of the room that I was in, I understood that I controlled every aspect of my body in that moment from the heart beat, feeling the blood flow in my toes up to my fingers, and feeling the light go through my