i dont like petsmart anymore they dont help animal they just want our money i found a newborn bird at a park it was pink its eyes werent open and it was hungry i got it and ask a lady to call animal control or something she did and i think she faked it cause she told me to go to petsmart and i did and they told me they werent gonna do anything they told me to go all the way to somewhere else to get care for it but i was forced to put it back where i found it but from there other people found it
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PLEASE DONT BUY FROM PETSMART!!!!!! PLEASE SEARCH PETS MART PET MILL ON YOUTUBE. YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN. PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS TO OTHER VIDEOS!.
That was freaking terrible. The dude didn't even try to make it sound realistic. He could have just as easily called up, said "Fuck you, lady!" and hung up, and that would be of comparable quality to this video.
i work at petsmart and i know that when we get the animals we treat them very good...i seen those vids b4 that u sent me, idk if thats true...but i know we never abuse animals like that at the store, and if we did we'd get fired...we also HAVE to inform ppl how to take care of there animals before selling them.
OF COURSE NOT!...first, we sale ALL our animals no matter how long it takes. We arent even aloud to sale pet mice and rodents to ppl who are feeding them to snakes...the only mice we sale are frozen pinkies. We wud get fired if we did anything remotely close to that.
I used to work @ petsmart grooming In Phx,Arizona & we got a phone call asking if we have swimming lessons for turtles? plus the good old pizza one too, also do we groom camels. I was laughing because my manager got on the phone cause they kept calling he must said something that scared them they stopped calling lol
Haha, that's pretty funny. You made it pretty believable, lol. =P
I like Petsmart so much better than Petco. All the small animals at Petco look so sad and lonely, especially the rats. But the ones at Petsmart always look like they have plenty to do. =]
my cat got kicked out of Petsmart due to a VERY bad manager! I took my 15 lb Tonkinese cat in Petsmart grooming and I told the groomer "YOU NEED 2 PEOPLE TO GROOM THE CAT!" because the cat is all muscle! I left and looked around the store and the manager couldn't finish the job. He told me my cat was bad and he thought he knew cats to do the cat by himself. NEXT TIME LISTEN TO THE OWNER!!!
im a bather at petsmart,i hate when people prank call the grooming salon...they think its funny but its not. we never know if the person is a real customer or a secret shopper....we do get secret shop on the phone...
@Scootergoddess I totally agree with you, scooter. People, in general, don't seem to realize there could be customers onhold waiting, while these prankers are taking up time for a stupid joke.
This reminds me of when an x of mine answered his home phone by saying, "Taco Bell." It turned out it was his sister-in-law, ready to give birth and thought she had the wrong number and hung up without saying a word, of course. People even call 9.1.1, just to ask when Disneyland opens. Not fuuny!
im a bather at petsmart,i hate when people prank call the grooming salon...they think its funny but its not. we never know if the person is a real customer or a secret shopper....we do get secret shop on the phone...
To studywar: I work at a PetSmart too. And I hate to admit it... SOME are like that, but most aren't. But PetCo and other stores will have the same problem. Just because it's a PetSmart doesn't mean we take bad care of our pets. we DO take realy good care of them. Just because you see an "undercover" video from PETA (which NEVER talks about positives), doesn't mean they're all like that.
true amen to that.....customers love us and alot of people like petsmart more then petco or any another pet retailer....pETA will never show positive things,always the negative side...im a bather at petsmart
@NancyGray123 Hey, I got an idea. Why don't you take your lame little opinion to a bunch of people who care?! This is just a funny call. Get the f out of here!
@greenmonster101 Just because the one you work at does; doesn't mean all do. Also (most of) the videos talk more about how the providers to Petsmart and PetCo do not. And as long as there is video proof that some animals aren't taken good care and/or don't come from good places then it is obviously true. You can't stage shit like that.
@395203502 People rarely videotape or tell other people about how their mediocre or decent experiences went at places like this. They only exploit the worst. There are hundreds of Petsmart and Petco stores, as opposed to the 10 or 12 videos on here, and some may have been taken at the same store. Also, there is always two sides to an argument, a common sense person would base their judgement on a personal experience, not someone else's.
I work in the grooming salon for Petsmart as well. We are supposed to stay on the phone with the customer even if they are prank calling us. All about customer service. Oh, and that stupid PETA video is a bunch of crap. Come work for Petsmart and see for yourself. :)
im a bather at tujunga petsmart,ur right about staying on the phone...some people make it obvious but we have to pretent we are speaking to a real customer,because we never know if its a secret shopper....and we have to ask the 5 mandatory questions .....Have u been here before,how old is ur pet,wat breed is it,want a bath or haircut,and do u have a proof of rabbies
I know it's a fake prank call, but prett funny. I'm just like, "woah" she's a crazy bitch. Brooklyn zoo? like the band!! ahaha. breeding these, these tigers she's really crazy... i think i might divorce her. i do not wanna marry my wife anymore. this is a TIGER
I had a women ask me if she needed phot ID to return a fish. She didnt believe me when I told her no, and she requested to speak to a manager. You cant make that shit up.
You call and say you have donkey, and then claim you have been there before, then cry when they wont groom him, also tell his name is Mr Burro! It works,cause I work there
lmao
HollyA1292 1 month ago
you have a tiger!? No way, I own three lions and a zebra!
python596 1 month ago
this isn't a very good prank call.
margittarget 3 months ago
I hear wolfs in my back yard every now and then LOL!!!!hahahaha
Quwichison 4 months ago
lol
RaChElLuVs2ChEeR1 4 months ago
what petsmart in illinois did you call?
LoveUx10 5 months ago
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LoveUx10 5 months ago
Ha <.< I work in the grooming salon... Id laugh so hard if someone did that to us.
ThePhreakzKururu 5 months ago
i dont like petsmart anymore they dont help animal they just want our money i found a newborn bird at a park it was pink its eyes werent open and it was hungry i got it and ask a lady to call animal control or something she did and i think she faked it cause she told me to go to petsmart and i did and they told me they werent gonna do anything they told me to go all the way to somewhere else to get care for it but i was forced to put it back where i found it but from there other people found it
HaloBuddys 5 months ago
Lol
loveAmora 5 months ago
i wish i had the guts 2 do wat that guy did i mean i was like AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
RandomChick3550 6 months ago
my wife is a crazy bitch who knows what the fuck she will do next
josef122334 6 months ago
this was so dumb, i took a crap and watched it float around and was having more fun then hearing you fuck bitch talk
FknHatrz 6 months ago
Rofl
CraCrazydude001 6 months ago
Too funny to be trye lol
janice1612233 6 months ago
i got prank called at petco, gave me his name HUGE BONER i hung up
SlimShaney08 6 months ago
this is funny
callofdutyman79 6 months ago
LOL it rolls in it's crap xDD
SunniLuvsU 7 months ago
HOLY CRAP this is some messed up stuff
CptCthulhu95 7 months ago
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BeastGirls73 7 months ago
I was alseep 2:50sec in...... *Yawn!!!*
zaken06 7 months ago
DUDE THATS HILARIOUS!!!!! :P it was so funny. I cant believe u had enough ballz to do that! Everytime i prank call i laugh & hang up! :P
yorkiesrule2010 7 months ago
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icup728 7 months ago
i hate you
grizzlegrant438 7 months ago
66 people work at petsmart
AllanbelongswithCaro 8 months ago
haaa
MsSmallpet 8 months ago
eeee i live in chicago!! lol
futerflash2 8 months ago
Not Fuckin Funny
Demonpixie669 8 months ago
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omg... wow. you're dumb.
Chrispy785 10 months ago
omg... wow. you're dumb.
Chrispy785 10 months ago
Jesus Christ that was boring.
Mannyr90 10 months ago
Wow... I work in a Grooming salon and we laugh at people like you. This just may be the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Congratulations!
Missy137 11 months ago 2
laaame...
Ambriel22 11 months ago
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petsmart = 200x better than petco
PotatoMasher1234 11 months ago
i wanna hear part 2 where he calls the zoo
Killinemdead1 11 months ago
why the hell would you prank call someone when they can pretty much track down your number and find out a lot about you......
GossipinDramaaQueen 1 year ago
you're disgusting wasting people's time so stfu
eurasianchica 1 year ago
that prank call sucked except the part part were you gone on about how stupid your "wife" is.
cooldude19991 1 year ago
So bad what a retard...
busterLira 1 year ago
Haters shut the fuck up! This is fucking funny as hell!! BY THE WAY I HAVE A WOLF
dixieandleona 1 year ago 20
@dixieandleona awwww are you seriouse i want one sooo cool make videos of it
whitewolf037 9 months ago
fuckin stupid white boy go play with your sister u ginger ass prick
phillipaul 1 year ago
LINKIN PARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigben123456789ify 1 year ago
lol baby tiger
TheNinjacat10 1 year ago
idiotic people should not have phones! Get a job ... obviously you have too much time on your time!
KelYeah777 1 year ago
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Wow, you are a loser
betta625 1 year ago
it isnt very funny you should have sed something about fude
animefanaticgirl1 1 year ago
lol
Coffee24242 1 year ago
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ha ha ha
roxyrox1001 1 year ago
It would have been better without the "umms" but yeah I have a 30 lb cat, they're not unheard of :P
toughntiny 1 year ago
Thanks for going to people's work, interupt their JOB, and waste their time. She probably was very busy when you did this.
ChassyGirl0 1 year ago
haha "she rolls around in her crap"
kinzie8989 1 year ago
wow... so funny...
sherik5 1 year ago
Call me at. 361 774 2643
MrDk1122 1 year ago
wtf why give your number?!
MrDarekx12 1 year ago
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this is shit check out my channel if you want to laugh
adamfuckinknowsit 2 years ago
is this an australian shop
24Bisma 2 years ago
i hear wolves in my back yard once in a while. who knows what the crazy bitch will do then hahahahaha
maxbaseball3 2 years ago 7
lucky. i love wolves. i am a wolf inside
juliespore 2 years ago
That was freaking terrible. The dude didn't even try to make it sound realistic. He could have just as easily called up, said "Fuck you, lady!" and hung up, and that would be of comparable quality to this video.
sexynerdgirl 2 years ago
Mcdonalds takes the lead...the mcdonalds prank call was halarious
SomeThingGoneWrong1 2 years ago
what would you say if you were the mice about to get eaten......lol interesting
mltblue32 2 years ago
lol i live there too
avery996789 2 years ago
keep friends down in backround and turn ur aim off...
jryz85 2 years ago 2
lmafo
steph5504 2 years ago
Shes knows hes screwing with her that phone call isnt even funny its stupid.
chihuahuababy37 2 years ago
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HowPlayeRisThat 2 years ago
OMG LOL
Elizanimal 2 years ago
haha, i can hear people signing into aol!
jen092806 2 years ago
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ummmm pet smart dose animal crulty
blackravenkp 2 years ago
no they dont
chlonn2cute4u 2 years ago
i herd wait i will send vid
blackravenkp 2 years ago
i work at petsmart and i know that when we get the animals we treat them very good...i seen those vids b4 that u sent me, idk if thats true...but i know we never abuse animals like that at the store, and if we did we'd get fired...we also HAVE to inform ppl how to take care of there animals before selling them.
chlonn2cute4u 2 years ago
ok not all petsmarts so it ok
blackravenkp 2 years ago
Please answer my question. When pet mice and other rodents don't find a home what happens to them? Do you feed them to snakes? :(
ReiRaeReeta 2 years ago
OF COURSE NOT!...first, we sale ALL our animals no matter how long it takes. We arent even aloud to sale pet mice and rodents to ppl who are feeding them to snakes...the only mice we sale are frozen pinkies. We wud get fired if we did anything remotely close to that.
chlonn2cute4u 2 years ago
Good, I love those cute wittle meece. :) But Petsmart should do some research, the wired wheels they have in the cages can break their legs.
ReiRaeReeta 2 years ago
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Eventually they get bought. Either as pets or as food.
Why the sad face? Snakes are better than rodents.
Juxtaroberto 2 years ago
SNAKES BETTER THAN RODENTS!!!?
...... Ha ha, that's a laugh.
Lizards are cool, but in my opinion, snakes are just.... Let's just say.... So NOT cool.
Jackrussells4eva 2 years ago 3
In your opinion maybe, I love mice. :3
ReiRaeReeta 2 years ago
wrong
dulllifeinkansas18 2 years ago
only some not all
blackravenkp 2 years ago
i work at petsmart and no we dont
gxbrad 2 years ago
its not bad but how is it a prank call its silly but its mostly dumb
GuyNamedMike32 2 years ago 2
Sparksomeart she isnt just playin along...its the man doin the prank call thats laughing in the prank call....no offence but get you facts right,,,x
iluvudaddyxx 2 years ago
so funny
23caitlin 2 years ago
the zoo hahahahhahaha broncks zoo
bighitta13 2 years ago
ok this is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ohhjunk28 3 years ago
XD hhaaaa
Horsesaredreams 3 years ago
one night she brought home this cat I`m like woah...shes a crazy bitch lmfao!!
theofficialtapqueen 3 years ago
Can you explain what it is about??? im deaf.. T___T
GRimmEhx15 3 years ago
like they call a store a request reduculious requests but act seriuos and the peole on the other end usually get annoyed
theofficialtapqueen 3 years ago
This is so funny! I can't believe she bought this!
Brittany853 3 years ago
she didn't, there are some people laughing in the background. She's just playing along.
Sparksomeart 2 years ago
lame
Slithr 3 years ago
lol so funny
stuffedwithacdc 3 years ago
lame!! prank
Goldenboybx1983 3 years ago
lol thats so funny
lexigirl1996 3 years ago
stupid.
xCheerxGurlx21 3 years ago
I feel kind of dumb after listening to this.
SourCrapples 3 years ago
that was my wife who got pranked. She was just trying to be helpful.
Joshman520 3 years ago 70
really???? what did she said cool!!
Checkz3 3 years ago
HAHAHAHHAHA LOSERRRRRRRRR
aquavibe1 3 years ago
@Joshman520 bs.
kinzie8989 1 year ago
@Joshman520 Are you serious?
piepeace 6 months ago
cant hear the clerk
LP5657 3 years ago 3
I used to work @ petsmart grooming In Phx,Arizona & we got a phone call asking if we have swimming lessons for turtles? plus the good old pizza one too, also do we groom camels. I was laughing because my manager got on the phone cause they kept calling he must said something that scared them they stopped calling lol
elenagod 3 years ago
thats skype isn't it
hgjj50 3 years ago
uh....hi
natsumeluver4 3 years ago
WHAT THE FUCK IS TALKIN' ABOUT?
franciscan2007 3 years ago
skyp! ahhaha
locationmojo 3 years ago 2
you're an idiot.. and retarded for uploading this shit.
baktu1 3 years ago
This isn't even that funny. Laaaaaame.
erinenna 3 years ago
lister drive
leopardgeckocrazy 3 years ago
I work at a pet store and people actually bring carzy sht to the store lol
Ive seen wolves, bobcats, baby lemurs, young anacondas. Anacodas are sellable tho =p
Cripton805 3 years ago
lol
horseluver1699 3 years ago
my fav part was "shes a crazy bitch, yeah shes a crazy bitch". prank calls are alot of fun.
donniexbw420 3 years ago
Petsmart are the second most evil petshop in the world!
leopardgeckocrazy 3 years ago
What's the 1st?
AnnaOnAStick 3 years ago
pet co
catclaw777 3 years ago
lol
myleogex 3 years ago 2
this is hilarious
MechanicV8 3 years ago
Haha, that's pretty funny. You made it pretty believable, lol. =P
I like Petsmart so much better than Petco. All the small animals at Petco look so sad and lonely, especially the rats. But the ones at Petsmart always look like they have plenty to do. =]
RhiannaHavens 3 years ago
my cat got kicked out of Petsmart due to a VERY bad manager! I took my 15 lb Tonkinese cat in Petsmart grooming and I told the groomer "YOU NEED 2 PEOPLE TO GROOM THE CAT!" because the cat is all muscle! I left and looked around the store and the manager couldn't finish the job. He told me my cat was bad and he thought he knew cats to do the cat by himself. NEXT TIME LISTEN TO THE OWNER!!!
My cat fights/twists/growls getting nails cut!
CanadianFan 3 years ago
im a bather at petsmart,i hate when people prank call the grooming salon...they think its funny but its not. we never know if the person is a real customer or a secret shopper....we do get secret shop on the phone...
Scootergoddess 3 years ago 15
@Scootergoddess I totally agree with you, scooter. People, in general, don't seem to realize there could be customers onhold waiting, while these prankers are taking up time for a stupid joke.
This reminds me of when an x of mine answered his home phone by saying, "Taco Bell." It turned out it was his sister-in-law, ready to give birth and thought she had the wrong number and hung up without saying a word, of course. People even call 9.1.1, just to ask when Disneyland opens. Not fuuny!
VanDowall 1 year ago
wow that person is stupid to belive that :P
Webkinzarecool123 3 years ago
Haha i work at petsmart and i got a prank phone call asking if the groomers would shave his wifes beaver. lol
beefyangus612 3 years ago 5
LOL!!!
coldtoon 3 years ago 2
im a bather at petsmart,i hate when people prank call the grooming salon...they think its funny but its not. we never know if the person is a real customer or a secret shopper....we do get secret shop on the phone...
80sfereak1988 3 years ago 3
I work at petsmart as a pet care specialist. We do take extrodnary care of our pets. It is not like they are showing in the videos. trust me.
greenmonster101 3 years ago 11
oh..yea, the undercover vids and documentaries came out of thin air.
studywar 3 years ago
To studywar: I work at a PetSmart too. And I hate to admit it... SOME are like that, but most aren't. But PetCo and other stores will have the same problem. Just because it's a PetSmart doesn't mean we take bad care of our pets. we DO take realy good care of them. Just because you see an "undercover" video from PETA (which NEVER talks about positives), doesn't mean they're all like that.
Don't be so ignorant
Turbo3921 3 years ago 2
true amen to that.....customers love us and alot of people like petsmart more then petco or any another pet retailer....pETA will never show positive things,always the negative side...im a bather at petsmart
80sfereak1988 3 years ago 3
I volenteer at Petsmart. You are right. Petsmart takes wonderful care of its pets. People need to give it a chance and leave it alone
riskykitty1 3 years ago 5
@greenmonster101 you should look at the video called petsmart cruelty x
NancyGray123 1 year ago
@NancyGray123 Hey, I got an idea. Why don't you take your lame little opinion to a bunch of people who care?! This is just a funny call. Get the f out of here!
MeDsCP 1 year ago
@greenmonster101 Just because the one you work at does; doesn't mean all do. Also (most of) the videos talk more about how the providers to Petsmart and PetCo do not. And as long as there is video proof that some animals aren't taken good care and/or don't come from good places then it is obviously true. You can't stage shit like that.
395203502 1 year ago
@395203502 People rarely videotape or tell other people about how their mediocre or decent experiences went at places like this. They only exploit the worst. There are hundreds of Petsmart and Petco stores, as opposed to the 10 or 12 videos on here, and some may have been taken at the same store. Also, there is always two sides to an argument, a common sense person would base their judgement on a personal experience, not someone else's.
ChassyGirl0 1 year ago
@greenmonster101 yeah too bad petsmart keeps diseased pets in the back of the store and let them die.. and bang hamsters heads on tables
deathstarlover 1 year ago
hahah.....you just talking stupid..hahah....
TearsOfLov3 3 years ago
hahaha. luckily i dont work for the grooming department in my petsmart
starterrn 4 years ago 3
haha thats funny
crazyl45 4 years ago 3
I work in the grooming salon for Petsmart as well. We are supposed to stay on the phone with the customer even if they are prank calling us. All about customer service. Oh, and that stupid PETA video is a bunch of crap. Come work for Petsmart and see for yourself. :)
pitbull592 4 years ago 5
im a bather at tujunga petsmart,ur right about staying on the phone...some people make it obvious but we have to pretent we are speaking to a real customer,because we never know if its a secret shopper....and we have to ask the 5 mandatory questions .....Have u been here before,how old is ur pet,wat breed is it,want a bath or haircut,and do u have a proof of rabbies
80sfereak1988 3 years ago
People prank call my Petsmart all the time :) it's fun.
lordblackcat88 4 years ago
Yeah?!?! Well type:Petsmart cruelty!!PETA happends to know that you petsmart people are evil!
Tronksya 4 years ago
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you are so wright i love PETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bunnylove262 3 years ago
Exxaaaactllly..
Ignorant motherfuckers.
xplayingxwithxhavocx 3 years ago
we have strict safety rules on our pets....trust me,we do
80sfereak1988 3 years ago 4
It's a fake prank ?
Redheadedhoni 4 years ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is soooo funny
crocsrule93 4 years ago
I can tell you have a skype phone because of the beginning of the video.
koollkatt1 4 years ago
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Yeah you prank them boy!!!They're very cruel to animals
MichaelJeterFan 4 years ago
No they dont.
BluestarComeBack 4 years ago 2
You're a disgrace.
I work for Petsmart and I happen to know that many, many, MANY steps are taken to ensure our store's pets' health.
Don't make up nonsense about something you've never been in first hand.
Zandl 4 years ago 2
that was real. ive prank called before and the person kept talking to me even after she found at... i guess she was just bored O.o
Angora307 4 years ago
lMFAO
indanjackiee 4 years ago
"I don't want to marry my wife anymore"
...makes no sense
litafan001 4 years ago
littlecheesy 4 years ago
I'm surprised she talked to him that long. I would have probably just hung up on him.
DianthaHyacinth 4 years ago
LOL!
singWhoaX4 4 years ago
Ummmmmm do you um groom ummm.....retard Worst prank call ever.
Midnightson00 4 years ago
our salon got called before too they asked if we do swimming lessons for turtles & they yelled at us for not having a superman costumes
elenagod 4 years ago 2
This is hilarious because I work at Petsmart at the salon but I've never gotten prank called before. hahahahahah
brea87 4 years ago
lol funny as hell!! lmao!
person107 4 years ago
funny
MileyURock 4 years ago 3
I had a women ask me if she needed phot ID to return a fish. She didnt believe me when I told her no, and she requested to speak to a manager. You cant make that shit up.
NateKrygier 4 years ago 4
thank god for inventing skype...lol
rufusbum 4 years ago 4
lol i luv this ha ha
crochunter44 4 years ago 3
"She's a crazy bitch" LMAO
inferrior 4 years ago 2
i work at petsmart and have way better pranks, i tried to see if they would groom my wookie lol
SpreadingElf 4 years ago 2
thats funnay!!!!!!!!!!!!
DigitalGirl44 4 years ago 3
You call and say you have donkey, and then claim you have been there before, then cry when they wont groom him, also tell his name is Mr Burro! It works,cause I work there
marksiwel 4 years ago 2