leider begreifen die Leute oft nicht, dass hier seelische Schmerzen zum Ausdruck kommen. Beim Brahms-Kult muss man aufpassen, dass man nicht meint,nur schöne Klänge seien die Sache. Brahms ist nicht Kitsch.
Die 3 ,die hier spielen, machen es gut. Gegen den Schluss hin finde ich es
'can't believe I'm seeing this! I went to high school with Dale; he taught me how to tie a tie (for ROTC) my first day there. He redines the term "monster."
I just read about this piece in Jan Swafford's great bio on Brahms. Jan also went to the same high school. I'm glad to know that Brahms specified waldhorn; thus the same key for all the mvmts. But no one uses that horn, nor have they ever, according to Swafford. I believe him! Perhaps privately, in a hausmusik setting.
'can't believe I'm seeing this! I went to high school with Dale; he taught me how to tie a tie (for ROTC) my first day there. He redines "monster." But so do Chris Martin and Charlie Vernon.
I just read about this piece in Jan Swafford's great bio on Brahms. Jan also went to the same high school. I'm glad to know that Brahms specified waldhorn; thus the same key for all the mvmts. But no one uses that horn, nor have they ever, according to Swafford. I believe him! Perhaps privately.
Why, in a video featuring a Horn Trio, is the hornist taking third billing over the pianist and the violinist? That is totally weird...Clevenger is the star here, it doesn't matter if the ordinary classical music listener doesn't know him. He should be first, then the violinist, and last the pianist, and that is the way it goes even if the pianist is the greatest conductor in the world.
@OrchestrationOnline this is a horn trio because the horn is the unusual instrument, not because it takes priority over the others. It is not a horn concerto. What is amazing about the piece is how well it merges all instruments. When the horn is given priority (like in the Tuckwell recording if I recall right) it destroys the spirit.
@ralfmichaels No, you are completely missing the point point of my question. A.) it is a "Horn Trio." B.) it has possibly the best horn player they could get. C.) any recording company in their right mind, any composer releasing a recording like this, and the other two great musicians would all agree that Clevenger's name should go first - even if it's just to make sure that new listeners to classical music will associate the hornist with the first name on the list. That is standard.
Clevenger sounds like natural horn as is taking the tonziles out of bell all the time, so either his horn is two feet longer or he is using cornet like mouthpiece and most likely both but eventually it sounds correct and in accordance to old masters Perlmann and Barenboim.
@Coolcat607 probably sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, if you see how Barenboim and Perlman look now, they look a lil younger....but bottomline I don't know
Talk about a stacked group to play this. Wow!!
cpthornman 3 months ago
leider begreifen die Leute oft nicht, dass hier seelische Schmerzen zum Ausdruck kommen. Beim Brahms-Kult muss man aufpassen, dass man nicht meint,nur schöne Klänge seien die Sache. Brahms ist nicht Kitsch.
Die 3 ,die hier spielen, machen es gut. Gegen den Schluss hin finde ich es
weniger gut. ist eine alte Aufnahme
Thomas10065 4 months ago
'can't believe I'm seeing this! I went to high school with Dale; he taught me how to tie a tie (for ROTC) my first day there. He redines the term "monster."
I just read about this piece in Jan Swafford's great bio on Brahms. Jan also went to the same high school. I'm glad to know that Brahms specified waldhorn; thus the same key for all the mvmts. But no one uses that horn, nor have they ever, according to Swafford. I believe him! Perhaps privately, in a hausmusik setting.
harryslide 5 months ago
'can't believe I'm seeing this! I went to high school with Dale; he taught me how to tie a tie (for ROTC) my first day there. He redines "monster." But so do Chris Martin and Charlie Vernon.
I just read about this piece in Jan Swafford's great bio on Brahms. Jan also went to the same high school. I'm glad to know that Brahms specified waldhorn; thus the same key for all the mvmts. But no one uses that horn, nor have they ever, according to Swafford. I believe him! Perhaps privately.
harryslide 5 months ago
Why, in a video featuring a Horn Trio, is the hornist taking third billing over the pianist and the violinist? That is totally weird...Clevenger is the star here, it doesn't matter if the ordinary classical music listener doesn't know him. He should be first, then the violinist, and last the pianist, and that is the way it goes even if the pianist is the greatest conductor in the world.
OrchestrationOnline 6 months ago
@OrchestrationOnline this is a horn trio because the horn is the unusual instrument, not because it takes priority over the others. It is not a horn concerto. What is amazing about the piece is how well it merges all instruments. When the horn is given priority (like in the Tuckwell recording if I recall right) it destroys the spirit.
ralfmichaels 1 month ago
@ralfmichaels No, you are completely missing the point point of my question. A.) it is a "Horn Trio." B.) it has possibly the best horn player they could get. C.) any recording company in their right mind, any composer releasing a recording like this, and the other two great musicians would all agree that Clevenger's name should go first - even if it's just to make sure that new listeners to classical music will associate the hornist with the first name on the list. That is standard.
OrchestrationOnline 1 month ago
OMG !
trieucong 7 months ago
Wonderful, although I've often found Perlman's playing just a tad cloying...
jeffg2020 7 months ago
what theater is that?
mizzothify 7 months ago
Clevenger sounds like natural horn as is taking the tonziles out of bell all the time, so either his horn is two feet longer or he is using cornet like mouthpiece and most likely both but eventually it sounds correct and in accordance to old masters Perlmann and Barenboim.
stickom 8 months ago
5:10, Danny B. says "I don't need a page turner, I got this guys. No sweat."
OrangeSodaKing 9 months ago 8
Meraviglioso!!! Prende Anima e Quore !!!
ridvansadrhanov 11 months ago
Horngasm.
madelinefurl 11 months ago 24
wonderful, beautiful and thoughtful music, what a treasure Brahms chamber music is, many thanks for posting
thatwilldonicely 1 year ago
``First Movement´´
lalapes 1 year ago
Too much slow for me.
Niebavoda 1 year ago
@Niebavoda That's what she said.
mastergohan 10 months ago
@mastergohan Who said that ???
Niebavoda 10 months ago
@Niebavoda went over your head, you missed the joke lol.
mastergohan 10 months ago
@mastergohan Oh my God ! Now I understand Lol
Niebavoda 10 months ago
Great!
DerekWilliamsMusic 1 year ago
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DerekWilliamsMusic 1 year ago
when was this recording actually done?
Coolcat607 1 year ago
@Coolcat607 probably sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, if you see how Barenboim and Perlman look now, they look a lil younger....but bottomline I don't know
greentomo 1 year ago
@Coolcat607
samu1329 1 year ago