Religion doesn't belong in school, that's why your community has a church where you can go learn about Christianity. I do like the comment about thought control, though; is it as bad as the thought control in the christian bible?
US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has come out and blamed the pro-Israel Lobby in America (AIPAC, ADL, ZOA, etc) for ruining her political career. While in congress she refused to sign the pro-Israel pledge and took a pro-Palestinian stance. Because of this, McKinney said “war was declared” on her by the Jewish lobby. In 2009 she told TIU's Ognir that “more than 99% of Congress work for Pro Zionist Israeli interests.”
Atheists get to portray their ideas and beliefs because it comes from THEM and not some brainwashign from a book. If you take ideology from life lessons then yo become a better person. If you take the approach from the Bible. cmon! the Bible is a rated R book! Good morals from a rated R book? Look at the wars we are in because wars based on ideology never win! but the neocons have americans brainwashed thinking war is a game.. duhh we gotta win!
I was brought up in what would be considered a non-faith school, yet it was influenced heavily by Christianity. RE taught us about the different religions, but it was based mainly on facts, and heavily biased towards Christianity. I'm now a teacher in an inner London school and RE is so much more interesting. It gives students the opportunity to discuss ethics, morals and come to their own conclusions. Unlike when I was swayed towards Christianity.
christians have compassion because God has compassion and he gives his compassion to me. My heart aches for the world and the ones searching for truth but discounting the creator of all things, Seems strange that they would go to demigods or no gods or money and then think that thats it ! No tis the opposite, live for God and gain eternity with him, put others first and self second. Most people cannot do that as the I is too big in them
you know the joy of relationship with God is wonderful, he loves you in a way i cannot put into words, he touches your heart deep inside, he makes you cry, laugh, hope, dream, expect, compassion for others he leads you to, look forward to his return, expect miracles, its a completely different approach to the world than living without him, you tend to have others on your mind instead of yourself. why else would christians lay themselves open to abuse that the world gives daily,
@NevilleRhysBarnes after your spirit has been renewed, you can then start the process of renewing your mind. That requires reading the bible, that is a process between you and God, he reveals his wisdom in the text via the Holy Spirit within you. Once this transformation starts to happen you cannot unlearn it, it is exciting and wonderful. Life outside you starts to change, your direction and intent , have fun with him.
once you have seen a vision of heaven that you cannot manufacture in your mind, it changes you and you cannot possibly deny that he exists, it seems wierd to even hear that there are those who are convinced that he doesnt exist, really wierd. Sad too that so many dont see, and i feel privileged to have him in my life. Many are called few are chosen. it is up to us to seek him !! your eternity depends on it.
meh. evolution actually does exist. it's almost a fact. a very large part of evolution includes "artifical selection." farmers do this all the time, stemming from the BC era. they take cows that produce more milk, and mate them with fertile bulls. the resulting male is fertile, or female produces ample milk. it's just some people don't realize that this is evolution staring them in the face.
We had this insane christian RE teacher in school.
She used to get so worked up she'd spend most of the class ranting incoherantly at the top of her voice, while sweating profusely and beating the desk with her fist.
Needless to say she never converted anyone (that im aware of), behaving like that.
What intimidation? These people make the choice to keep their religious views to themselves, no-one is intimidating anyone. Typical lying video from a whingeing theist.
I am a teacher and I believe that Valkyries will carry me to Valhalla to party with Thor and the other dudes if I die in battle. I teach this to my students. So far 5 of my students have died in battle after making an assault on a christian church. Now the authorities is trying to stop me from teaching my religion in school. This is obviously wrong and denying me of my rights.
Anybody who thinks the UK is similar to communist Russia is living in cloud cuckoo land. If kids are being taught to make up their own mind rather than being indoctrinated into a certain belief system then that can only be a positive thing.
Xtianity is being shunned? Horrors! But how could this happen? Don't they have the perfect message and perfect understanding of that message, all given to them by the Creator Of The Universe? How could ANY dissent hold up to such a message and dissuade ANYONE? Unless, of course, their claim is utter bullshit. Hmm.....could be on to something there.
These so-called teachers are agents of the devil and are in the classroom to lure the young christian spirits into lives of lust and sin. Accept the grace of God and know that those who listen to these snakes appearing as men will be punished for all eternity.
@PlanetOfTheAtheist lool, kings clothes, with added deafness and blindness, im sorry, i didnt mean to laugh, but the truth is only JESUS, thats it, not hard, seek him, he will answer. Seek him from your heart. If you want a clear picture with all the puzzel peices in place, aliens demons angels masons illuminati UN jesuits catholics, take a look at thefuelproject, vids know your enemy.
There's Christian schools aren't there? If you want to learn about god in every damn subject, go to one of those. If you want the scientific view, go to a regular school where you learn about religions in religious studies class.
@JohanTW why would you want to be lied to about our origins, why would you want your children to be moulded by a courrupt agenda, seems you have not looked at the origins of darwins theory at all. Most scientists say it has no corroberating evidence and is an error, so why would you want to live a lie. Is it because you are courrupt yourself already and want no good in society. See yt page fuelproject and the vids know your enemy. Truely eye opening
@toiwin Well, I wasn't saying that Darwins theory is true, I'm just saying that in schools, one should learn science, not religion. Except for in designated studies on religion. Also, I'd say it's a lot easier to disprove creationism according to the bible than evolution. Please watch "Science saved my soul" here on youtube, it's very interesting but philosophical rather than scientific :)
@aipc1013 if you have ever looked at the teachers handbook, which is reference in the vid i pointed out to you, then you would see that they have NO interest in anything a parent might want to teach their children and in fact consider all input by the parent as being negative and has to be undone in the primary years. Very CHILLING facts. So basically i am saying that the school system is going to corrupt your child into a moulded state loving drone and do its best to take your child from you
@toiwin "Most scientists say it has no corroberating evidence and is an error, so why would you want to live a lie."
Are you lying for your god?
There is an excellent video debunking the list of 500 scientists that do not accept the theory of evolution, it turns out to be bullshit, with the list ending with only 1 scientist that showed a poor understanding of the theory.
The fact is that over 99.9% of scientists competent in the field accept the theory of evolution, over 90% in all fields.
athiests are more able to discuss their beliefs in the classroom because they won't be told 'god dun it, moving on the the next subject'...fucking british twat
well in dont see what the problem on the cirriculum is, children are required to learn both religious education and science, there's no form of indoctrination there at all.
There is no shame in believing in something, no matter what, long as you don't show hate towards those who think different. I have as much a right to believe in something as you. You dont see me putting people down to make them feel inferior to those of my faith. There is a line between disagreement and hatred, and the majority of these comments cross it by leaps and bounds. As a friend of mine said, religion is like a penis, you can be proud of it, but don't shove it down my children's throats.
Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Makes perfect sense to me! Jesus motherfucking christ religious people are retarded.
JesusRoseB4Pagangods, just because someone questions the "trinity" or challenges your religious world view (yes Christianity is a religion, deal with it) you cry "persecution". Lets compare the "persecution" of Christians in the UK with Christians in North Korea, China or Iran. you got it pretty good.
JesusRoseB4Pagangods, you said "Christianity and all theists are being silenced in the education system in the UK. Next step - control your thoughts? The UK is becoming a secular system similar to communist Russia was."
In the UK there is no law stopping you becoming a Christian, going to Church, proselytizing your faith to others, how are you and your fellow Christians "persecuted", the UK is nothing like the soviet union.
Yes, higher life forms including mice, butterflies & other insects and birds. Evolution was observed in response to selection by factors such pesticides and isolation of population.
And as I said before - faith is a belief WITHOUT evidence. Therefore evolution does NOT require faith. It works without that assumption.
Science offers the best explanation based on current evidence & continuosly refines those explanations.
Religion can only offer sinister & infantile explanations.......
there is only one enemy and he is saten, any lesser cause are factions of this. The only way to be free is in your soul and spirit, the end is coming fast, the enemy knows it and does not care for you at all. The enemy will become more apparent as he shows his hand. Make a stand for Jesus for yourself and your family, be on Gods side to the point of death. Dont fight small battles, for we fight against spiritual powers that have little time left.
@UnknownUserName4267 the enemy knows you very well, your name, family, likes, dislikes, what commandments you have and do break, he knows you are his and will not show his hand to you as that is what you can accept in your life, just one thing though, just try to change sides and you will come to see him and his intent. and effect in your life.
@toiwin I spent 30 years looking. In the end I just had to admit that there was no-one there.
Surround yourself with religious people and you will inevitably fall into their way of thinking. Look at matters coolly, and away from the torrent of propaganda supplied by religion, and you will eventually come to very different conclusions.
@NevilleRhysBarnes if you seriously spent 30 years of your life looking for God, then my question is how did you look? what did you read ? did you pray wholeheartedly, did you trust that he is the rewarder of those who seek him, Did you just aquire head knowlege ? first step Ask forgiveness for your sin, 2nd thank God for sending his son to die in your place, 3rd invite Jesus into your heart. Then you will have your spirit man renewed into rel. with God
@NevilleRhysBarnes What you said is very true. When 25 years ago I surrounded myself religious people, I became a Christian. After looking at matters coolly and away from the torrent of propaganda supplied by religion, I became agnostic. The most significant event was the realisation that the bible was not God's word.
Children should not be brainwashed with any form of religious dogma at school. They could spend a lifetime undoing the damage.
@la2111 Do you have to put it that way? The way you put it makes it sound very prejudiced- "religion can only offer sinister & infantile explanations" can be taken offensively to those who are religious. There is nothing wrong with any religion; it is merely the people who follow or believe in that specific belief system. I would suggest that unless you have throughly researched every religion and belief system you might refrain.
@missrowanb2009 The people who take the bible, qu'ran & torah as word of god & follow it literally are indeed VERY sinister. Who else would violate the genitalia of children, euphimise slavery, genocide and suppress the rights of women. Theocratic societies always fail, secular, democratic humanist ones don't...
And the people who take their religion in the domesticated form, al la carte by cherry picking the nice verses from the bible appear infantile to me. Hope that clears it up for you ;-)
@la2111 Yes, I agree, but not all people of those religions either- there are many different views on the Bible, torah, qu'ran and so on. If nothing else, when used positively, at the very least, religion is a good set if morals. I don't really think people are like that because of their religion- a lot of the verses in the Bible were actually changed, to meet the needs of certain Christians who apparently just wanted power, and was very, very saddistic.
@la2111 cont from suggesting that religion can ONLY offer sinister & infantile explanations. I myself am religious, and I am perfectly happy to examine scientific evidence for or against various aspects of life, death, the World we live on and so forth, and religious evidence for and against the same subjects.
Historically, Pagan religious beliefs have been around a lot longer than Jesus and the Christian religion . In fact, Paganism has been around longer than Judaism , which is the prelude to Christianity.
ANY religious beliefs should NOT be used to indoctrinate children on our schools. The UK should indeed become a lot more secular.
Yes, teaching comparitive religion in RE class is a valid subject but the religious beliefs of the teachers themselves is not important to them doing their job just as their sexuality or politics is not important either.
A teachers job is to tell the truth about the world and encourage the students to develop thier life skills and to think for themselves.
@abarford1 No that would be absurd. Evolution forms the backbone of biology. It is backed up by 200,000 peer REVIEWED scientific journals and paleontology, geology, molecular biology, carbon dating etc.
The writings of the bible, qu'ran and other holy books are not backed up by evidence (maybe some historical evidence) therefore these do not belong in the science class, for example.
Yes teach them as comparative religions and as works of literature, but as a basis of truth - certainly not..;-)
@la2111 And Christianity forms the backbone of most western countries Constitutions, Law, Marriage and Morals and is accepted by more people as the form of truth then Evolution is. If your going to teach one theory you might as well teach them all. So at the end of the day it comes down to choice of religion whether it's puting your faith in Darwin's Theory or Religious Theory. I'd Rather my children learning they were created for a purpose and are loved then just grew out of monkies ;)
@abarford1 Christianity used to form the backbone of Western countries but it has been domesticated for some time.
Evolution is the truth - if you dont know that then you know nothing. As for teaching one theory or another - thats fine as long it has evidence to back it up. Darwins theory does not require faith. Faith is a belief in the supernatural without evidence.
And the purpose of your children is to transfer their genes to the next generation.
@la2111 "Evolution is the truth" ... really ? Go look up the definitions of a Theory and a Law then get back to me. So in that Statement your've really proven my point, the fact that you think that it's the Truth when it's not means you have faith in the Theory right ? Ofcourse, but because evoution has ridden the back of natural selection and said look look if it happens throughout species why doesn't it change a species? Go past your highschool biology classroom buddy and learn the otherside;)
@abarford1 Evolution is scientific theory. The term theory in science is the grand daddy and is not the same as the general term theory. Gravity is a scientific theory as well. Evolution is a fact in the same way that gravity is a fact. But evolutionary theory is far more understood than theory of gravity. On the basis of scientific method, evolution is a fact. We have witnessed speciation. Educate yourself.
@Fishqueen1972 Really .... "Gravity is a scientific theory as well" you sure you dont want to look that up kiddo ? Now your geting really confused with Natural Selection and Evolution, lets not get ahead of ourselves here. We selective breed which is a form of Natural Selection and in areas where the environment has changed, eg industrial era, a diffrent trait of a breed has survived, eg black moths. Now if evoultion was true we would of seen it with bacteria which we havn't. Go Educate yourself
@abarford1 Actually, we have seen evolution with single celled organisms. A single celled algae changed into a multi-celled animal in a petri dish and it was natural selection. "Now if evolution was true we would of seen it with bacteria which we haven't". This is just an assertion without any factual basis.
@toiwin Evolutionists wouldn't expect it to. There is a scientist who has been working on a hypothesis for 20 years on how the prokaryote cell evolved into the eukaryote cell. Her findings are very significant. The eukaryote cell has two distinct sets of DNA working in a symbiotic relationship, (nuclear DNA & mitrochrondia DNA). We would not expect bacteria to evolve a completely different set of DNA. This happens when one type of prokaryote engulfs another type and it has been observed.
@toiwin And one more thing about what would we would expect. There are classifications of different types of bacteria which is what we call different species of bacteria. Bacteria has been observed to evolve new traits which would place them in a different category of species. So we have observed bacteria evolve into a different species.
@Fishqueen1972 actually they are called strains of bacteria and if notice they are still called bacteria. Most species can adapt to different environments that does not mean they change animal types. Evolution is rubbish and only accepted by those who WANT to TRY to believe it, cos it takes alot of ignoring of facts. They never found the missing link between ape and human, but worse they never found the micro organisms that have changed to monkeys either.
@toiwin Really, tell that to the brilliant Francis Collins, a Christian, who accepts common descent and rejects intelligent design. And statistically speaking, those with higher IQs accept the theory of evolution. And those with lower IQs don't even understand it & have to resort to Strawman fallacies in order to argue against it like yourself. If you don't want to believe it, then don't. But get out of arguing against it with science because you fail. Just admit you prefer to believe in magic.
@Fishqueen1972 hes wrong and your wrong. I believe my father in heaven who himself said, he created all things ! i believe him not you. You have done nothing for me, but to deride my belief based on others testimony. I have had personal miraculous proof and intervention in my life from God, there can be NO question in my mind of hiswords, as he does not lie. Mans feeble interpretation of his creation is poor to say the least! you are betting all in on someone elses theory.
@toiwin Miraculous interventions in your life??? Wow, yet there are thousands of children who die horrifically from disease, accidents, and famine. Where are their miracles? Religion is the most self centered arrogant narcissistic form of delusion that has ever plagued the human species.
@Fishqueen1972 well in order to understand that, you had better start learning a few things. Faith, agape love, reciprocity, worship, love, relationship, authority, miracles, each of these is a long study. Gods character is a life long study. Spritual authority in the heavenlies, mans authority on earth, intercessory prayer. ETC oh and yes, you need God to translate for any understanding at all.
@toiwin The point still stands. And you have your beliefs and Francis Collins who is an educated Christian thinks differently than you as a Christian. He probably thinks this preoccupation some people have with a literal interpretation of Genesis is petty and shallow. That being said. You can believe what you want and feel free to disagree and criticize, but understand that the same will be done to you. For there is nothing about you which gives you more rights than me or Mr. Collins.
@Fishqueen1972 oh but contraire, your whole foundation of thought is built on sand. Do some proper study of the whole aspect of truth and deception. See yt channel fuelproject, vids know your enemy. It shows the spiritual outworking of the enemy saten and his plans for the future. You are just caught up in the middle with no idea as to what is the the truth and what is coming if you stay in delusion. Truth is JESUS, he is coming for those who LOVE him. choice is yours
@toiwin Is God like the The Riddler from batman? Seriously. God has the power to destroy but allows a villian like Satan to live so he can mess around and deceive and treat humans like a mouse in a maze. God's purpose for us is to make life a riddle? What the heck? I see this spiritual world you speak of as a reflection of human weakness and you fail to even give God good traits. How many fantasy books have you read?
@la2111 Any higher lifeforms there in your petri dish ? Like I said, Go educate yourself. Like I said before, it takes an equal amount of faith to believe in evolution then it does any other religion. Both offer explanations but no real rock hard evidence. You fail sir, good day.
@abarford1 You give me the horrible feeling of not knowing what you are talking about.
As for educating myself; I have read the bible (2 different interpretations) the qu'ran, hadith and other religious texts. I found some of these writings poetic (but mostly vague & tedious) but at no point did I feel the need to take them literally. I have 2 science degrees and have worked in research.
So im well aware of both sides of the 'debate'. Hence my original interest in this video......;-)
@la2111 "You give me the horrible feeling of not knowing what you are talking about." You give me the horrible feeling of knowing what you are talking about you dont know :p
@abarford1 There is a scientist who has been working on her hypothesis for 20 years on how the prokaryote cell evolved into the eukaryote cell. Eukaryotes have two distinct sets of DNA working in a symbiotic relationship. Her findings are significant. This has been observed along with the fact that amino acids have been created in the lab. So here we have evidence for the possibility of natural phenomena against supernatural magic. Sorry, both do not hold equal weight in the evidence dept.
@abarford1 "Go educate yourself. Like I said before, it takes an equal amount of faith to believe in evolution then it does any other religion. Both offer explanations but no real rock hard evidence. You fail sir, good day."
Wow, I couldn't believe such ignorance from a young man, but you're from australia, I suppose the school system was like mine in South Africa in the 70's, compulsory religion and worshiping, never heard of the words evolution and big bang until 30 years later
@abarford1 Its you that need to look up theory. In science, theory is not an opinion. It is evidence based i.e. evolution.
Science is the search for truth even if the outcomes are not to our liking (there are no white lies in science).
As for evolution riding the back of natural selection? I'm not sure what you mean. But through evolution by random mutation and non-random natural selection, species do indeed change.
p.s. there is no 'other side' in biology which was the point I was making...
@la2111 if you have a group of people that have no light or morals in them, you have hate murder lies stealing darkness, What you dont understand is that the light and goodness that is in the world is there as a result of God being IN a persons life and leading them to do good to others. Take God away, and you are left with darkness and a quick slide down to a horrible existence for everyone concerned.
@la2111 When you can't even talk about the inconsistences in a theory, oh lets say evolution, and give your honest opinion, which might be against it, you can't if it is positive towards a belief in God but as long as it isn't involving God, that's OK.? Bigot, hater, intolerant, idiot, religious zelot, these are just some of what those who do speak out are called, if the UK was anymore secular it would be communistic.
Those without a God have nothing to believe in and so have nothing to share.
tatorsal 1 day ago
Religion doesn't belong in school, that's why your community has a church where you can go learn about Christianity. I do like the comment about thought control, though; is it as bad as the thought control in the christian bible?
HiDeguild 1 month ago
britney spears = not necessary
augustburnsdave 1 month ago 3
@augustburnsdave maybe its a statement of the influence of popular music,such as whats on mtv.
MsFullheart 3 weeks ago
@MrToby9999 Why do u say that the Bible isn't God's word?
therealsuperman64 1 month ago
Who REALLY runs our world?
US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has come out and blamed the pro-Israel Lobby in America (AIPAC, ADL, ZOA, etc) for ruining her political career. While in congress she refused to sign the pro-Israel pledge and took a pro-Palestinian stance. Because of this, McKinney said “war was declared” on her by the Jewish lobby. In 2009 she told TIU's Ognir that “more than 99% of Congress work for Pro Zionist Israeli interests.”
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LordLindsey12 1 month ago
Atheists get to portray their ideas and beliefs because it comes from THEM and not some brainwashign from a book. If you take ideology from life lessons then yo become a better person. If you take the approach from the Bible. cmon! the Bible is a rated R book! Good morals from a rated R book? Look at the wars we are in because wars based on ideology never win! but the neocons have americans brainwashed thinking war is a game.. duhh we gotta win!
inachu 1 month ago
I was brought up in what would be considered a non-faith school, yet it was influenced heavily by Christianity. RE taught us about the different religions, but it was based mainly on facts, and heavily biased towards Christianity. I'm now a teacher in an inner London school and RE is so much more interesting. It gives students the opportunity to discuss ethics, morals and come to their own conclusions. Unlike when I was swayed towards Christianity.
Thankfully I saw the light.
BoroInLeeds 2 months ago
christians have compassion because God has compassion and he gives his compassion to me. My heart aches for the world and the ones searching for truth but discounting the creator of all things, Seems strange that they would go to demigods or no gods or money and then think that thats it ! No tis the opposite, live for God and gain eternity with him, put others first and self second. Most people cannot do that as the I is too big in them
toiwin 3 months ago
you know the joy of relationship with God is wonderful, he loves you in a way i cannot put into words, he touches your heart deep inside, he makes you cry, laugh, hope, dream, expect, compassion for others he leads you to, look forward to his return, expect miracles, its a completely different approach to the world than living without him, you tend to have others on your mind instead of yourself. why else would christians lay themselves open to abuse that the world gives daily,
toiwin 3 months ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes after your spirit has been renewed, you can then start the process of renewing your mind. That requires reading the bible, that is a process between you and God, he reveals his wisdom in the text via the Holy Spirit within you. Once this transformation starts to happen you cannot unlearn it, it is exciting and wonderful. Life outside you starts to change, your direction and intent , have fun with him.
toiwin 3 months ago
once you have seen a vision of heaven that you cannot manufacture in your mind, it changes you and you cannot possibly deny that he exists, it seems wierd to even hear that there are those who are convinced that he doesnt exist, really wierd. Sad too that so many dont see, and i feel privileged to have him in my life. Many are called few are chosen. it is up to us to seek him !! your eternity depends on it.
toiwin 3 months ago
meh. evolution actually does exist. it's almost a fact. a very large part of evolution includes "artifical selection." farmers do this all the time, stemming from the BC era. they take cows that produce more milk, and mate them with fertile bulls. the resulting male is fertile, or female produces ample milk. it's just some people don't realize that this is evolution staring them in the face.
dragonfire9267 3 months ago
Appropriate music
kmanfitz 3 months ago
And rightfully so.
lurconis666 3 months ago
We had this insane christian RE teacher in school.
She used to get so worked up she'd spend most of the class ranting incoherantly at the top of her voice, while sweating profusely and beating the desk with her fist.
Needless to say she never converted anyone (that im aware of), behaving like that.
2camjohn 4 months ago
What intimidation? These people make the choice to keep their religious views to themselves, no-one is intimidating anyone. Typical lying video from a whingeing theist.
UnknownUserName4267 4 months ago
The Christian student teachers would feel right at home in America.
BreakTheSkyMyseIf 4 months ago
I am a teacher and I believe that Valkyries will carry me to Valhalla to party with Thor and the other dudes if I die in battle. I teach this to my students. So far 5 of my students have died in battle after making an assault on a christian church. Now the authorities is trying to stop me from teaching my religion in school. This is obviously wrong and denying me of my rights.
Hopefulfilment 4 months ago
Teachers should GLADLY open for debate.
What they shouldnt do is tell the children what to believe.
gulbirk 5 months ago
Anybody who thinks the UK is similar to communist Russia is living in cloud cuckoo land. If kids are being taught to make up their own mind rather than being indoctrinated into a certain belief system then that can only be a positive thing.
shshshs126 5 months ago
No religion in public schools or in schools that are fiancially supported by the state. Religion is a private matter,
greenstring1 5 months ago
Xtianity is being shunned? Horrors! But how could this happen? Don't they have the perfect message and perfect understanding of that message, all given to them by the Creator Of The Universe? How could ANY dissent hold up to such a message and dissuade ANYONE? Unless, of course, their claim is utter bullshit. Hmm.....could be on to something there.
rohanwotan2 6 months ago
These so-called teachers are agents of the devil and are in the classroom to lure the young christian spirits into lives of lust and sin. Accept the grace of God and know that those who listen to these snakes appearing as men will be punished for all eternity.
omgz0rtbh 6 months ago
@omgz0rtbh
I do hope you're trolling.
UnknownUserName4267 4 months ago
@UnknownUserName4267 I do hope you repent.
omgz0rtbh 4 months ago
@omgz0rtbh
Yes, you're a dumb troll. I hope you repent before Odin kicks your sorry arse.
UnknownUserName4267 4 months ago
@UnknownUserName4267 I'm not afraid of you, but you should be afraid of God.
omgz0rtbh 4 months ago
@omgz0rtbh
LOL, telling me that is like me saying to you "You should be afraid of Sauron or Bigfoot". You're quite the deluded idiot aren't you?
UnknownUserName4267 4 months ago
@UnknownUserName4267 Jesus promised the end of all wicked people.
Odin promised the end of all Ice Giants.
I dont see any Ice Giants around. Do you?
2camjohn 4 months ago 9
"The UK is becoming a secular system similar to communist Russia was."
Communist Russia wasn't secular, it was ANTI-RELIGIOUS. Important distinction there:
secularism: neutrality regarding religion, no promotion or condemnation of.
ant-religious: should be pretty obvious XD
TurboDally 6 months ago 6
@PlanetOfTheAtheist lool, kings clothes, with added deafness and blindness, im sorry, i didnt mean to laugh, but the truth is only JESUS, thats it, not hard, seek him, he will answer. Seek him from your heart. If you want a clear picture with all the puzzel peices in place, aliens demons angels masons illuminati UN jesuits catholics, take a look at thefuelproject, vids know your enemy.
toiwin 7 months ago
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Filth like religion has no place in our schools... We are in the 21st century, not the stone age!! Grow up people!!!
HepburnFlicks 7 months ago
@PlanetOfTheAtheist Fuck off I've seen Harry Potter.:-)
1952YOU1320TUBE1952 7 months ago
There's Christian schools aren't there? If you want to learn about god in every damn subject, go to one of those. If you want the scientific view, go to a regular school where you learn about religions in religious studies class.
JohanTW 8 months ago
@JohanTW why would you want to be lied to about our origins, why would you want your children to be moulded by a courrupt agenda, seems you have not looked at the origins of darwins theory at all. Most scientists say it has no corroberating evidence and is an error, so why would you want to live a lie. Is it because you are courrupt yourself already and want no good in society. See yt page fuelproject and the vids know your enemy. Truely eye opening
toiwin 7 months ago
@toiwin Well, I wasn't saying that Darwins theory is true, I'm just saying that in schools, one should learn science, not religion. Except for in designated studies on religion. Also, I'd say it's a lot easier to disprove creationism according to the bible than evolution. Please watch "Science saved my soul" here on youtube, it's very interesting but philosophical rather than scientific :)
aipc1013 7 months ago
@aipc1013 if you have ever looked at the teachers handbook, which is reference in the vid i pointed out to you, then you would see that they have NO interest in anything a parent might want to teach their children and in fact consider all input by the parent as being negative and has to be undone in the primary years. Very CHILLING facts. So basically i am saying that the school system is going to corrupt your child into a moulded state loving drone and do its best to take your child from you
toiwin 7 months ago
@toiwin "Most scientists say it has no corroberating evidence and is an error, so why would you want to live a lie."
Are you lying for your god?
There is an excellent video debunking the list of 500 scientists that do not accept the theory of evolution, it turns out to be bullshit, with the list ending with only 1 scientist that showed a poor understanding of the theory.
The fact is that over 99.9% of scientists competent in the field accept the theory of evolution, over 90% in all fields.
saintpine 6 months ago
athiests are more able to discuss their beliefs in the classroom because they won't be told 'god dun it, moving on the the next subject'...fucking british twat
illumined1 8 months ago
well in dont see what the problem on the cirriculum is, children are required to learn both religious education and science, there's no form of indoctrination there at all.
jhibbitt1 10 months ago
There is no shame in believing in something, no matter what, long as you don't show hate towards those who think different. I have as much a right to believe in something as you. You dont see me putting people down to make them feel inferior to those of my faith. There is a line between disagreement and hatred, and the majority of these comments cross it by leaps and bounds. As a friend of mine said, religion is like a penis, you can be proud of it, but don't shove it down my children's throats.
cinemaspaz 10 months ago 3
Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Makes perfect sense to me! Jesus motherfucking christ religious people are retarded.
kjun13 10 months ago
"The UK is becoming a secular system similar to communist Russia was."
Hahaha! Can't tell if trolling or just very very very stupid.
Igelkuesser 10 months ago
JesusRoseB4Pagangods, just because someone questions the "trinity" or challenges your religious world view (yes Christianity is a religion, deal with it) you cry "persecution". Lets compare the "persecution" of Christians in the UK with Christians in North Korea, China or Iran. you got it pretty good.
someguy6481 10 months ago
JesusRoseB4Pagangods, you said "Christianity and all theists are being silenced in the education system in the UK. Next step - control your thoughts? The UK is becoming a secular system similar to communist Russia was."
In the UK there is no law stopping you becoming a Christian, going to Church, proselytizing your faith to others, how are you and your fellow Christians "persecuted", the UK is nothing like the soviet union.
someguy6481 10 months ago
Yes, higher life forms including mice, butterflies & other insects and birds. Evolution was observed in response to selection by factors such pesticides and isolation of population.
And as I said before - faith is a belief WITHOUT evidence. Therefore evolution does NOT require faith. It works without that assumption.
Science offers the best explanation based on current evidence & continuosly refines those explanations.
Religion can only offer sinister & infantile explanations.......
la2111 10 months ago 10
@la2111 LOL
toiwin 9 months ago
@toiwin
He's right though. Evolution is demonstrable, religion isn't. I find it dismaying there are people like you in the UK.
UnknownUserName4267 4 months ago
@UnknownUserName4267
there is only one enemy and he is saten, any lesser cause are factions of this. The only way to be free is in your soul and spirit, the end is coming fast, the enemy knows it and does not care for you at all. The enemy will become more apparent as he shows his hand. Make a stand for Jesus for yourself and your family, be on Gods side to the point of death. Dont fight small battles, for we fight against spiritual powers that have little time left.
toiwin 4 months ago
@toiwin
Satan isn't real, get over it. Jesus isn't coming back, get over it. There is no judgement day, get over it.
UnknownUserName4267 4 months ago
@UnknownUserName4267 the enemy knows you very well, your name, family, likes, dislikes, what commandments you have and do break, he knows you are his and will not show his hand to you as that is what you can accept in your life, just one thing though, just try to change sides and you will come to see him and his intent. and effect in your life.
toiwin 4 months ago
@toiwin Hmm. The problem is, God is hiding just as assiduously as Satan. So well, in fact, He's given us no reason to believe in Him.
If you were prepared to take an atheistic view of your life, you might well come to see what a lie religion is and how it distorts people's thinking.
NevilleRhysBarnes 3 months ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes seek him and you will find him, you are not looking.
toiwin 3 months ago
@toiwin I spent 30 years looking. In the end I just had to admit that there was no-one there.
Surround yourself with religious people and you will inevitably fall into their way of thinking. Look at matters coolly, and away from the torrent of propaganda supplied by religion, and you will eventually come to very different conclusions.
NevilleRhysBarnes 3 months ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes your wrong, i have been in the throne room he is enormous
toiwin 3 months ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes if you seriously spent 30 years of your life looking for God, then my question is how did you look? what did you read ? did you pray wholeheartedly, did you trust that he is the rewarder of those who seek him, Did you just aquire head knowlege ? first step Ask forgiveness for your sin, 2nd thank God for sending his son to die in your place, 3rd invite Jesus into your heart. Then you will have your spirit man renewed into rel. with God
toiwin 3 months ago
@toiwin I did things you've never even heard of. The Christian system was only part of my experience.
All the cliches that you're suggesting...sorry, but they are bullshit and willing self-delusion.
The fact is, there's no-one there.
NevilleRhysBarnes 3 months ago
@NevilleRhysBarnes What you said is very true. When 25 years ago I surrounded myself religious people, I became a Christian. After looking at matters coolly and away from the torrent of propaganda supplied by religion, I became agnostic. The most significant event was the realisation that the bible was not God's word.
Children should not be brainwashed with any form of religious dogma at school. They could spend a lifetime undoing the damage.
MrToby9999 1 month ago
@la2111 Do you have to put it that way? The way you put it makes it sound very prejudiced- "religion can only offer sinister & infantile explanations" can be taken offensively to those who are religious. There is nothing wrong with any religion; it is merely the people who follow or believe in that specific belief system. I would suggest that unless you have throughly researched every religion and belief system you might refrain.
missrowanb2009 3 months ago
@missrowanb2009 The people who take the bible, qu'ran & torah as word of god & follow it literally are indeed VERY sinister. Who else would violate the genitalia of children, euphimise slavery, genocide and suppress the rights of women. Theocratic societies always fail, secular, democratic humanist ones don't...
And the people who take their religion in the domesticated form, al la carte by cherry picking the nice verses from the bible appear infantile to me. Hope that clears it up for you ;-)
la2111 3 months ago
@la2111 Yes, I agree, but not all people of those religions either- there are many different views on the Bible, torah, qu'ran and so on. If nothing else, when used positively, at the very least, religion is a good set if morals. I don't really think people are like that because of their religion- a lot of the verses in the Bible were actually changed, to meet the needs of certain Christians who apparently just wanted power, and was very, very saddistic.
missrowanb2009 3 months ago
@la2111 cont from suggesting that religion can ONLY offer sinister & infantile explanations. I myself am religious, and I am perfectly happy to examine scientific evidence for or against various aspects of life, death, the World we live on and so forth, and religious evidence for and against the same subjects.
missrowanb2009 3 months ago
Come on, UK! LEAD US INTO THE FUTURE! :D
EddieTheFishReturns 11 months ago
Historically, Pagan religious beliefs have been around a lot longer than Jesus and the Christian religion . In fact, Paganism has been around longer than Judaism , which is the prelude to Christianity.
harrama110 11 months ago
Yay! F*** Christianity!
FunnyGeese 1 year ago
what a joke. This is supposed to be funny right?
wardogPC 1 year ago
ANY religious beliefs should NOT be used to indoctrinate children on our schools. The UK should indeed become a lot more secular.
Yes, teaching comparitive religion in RE class is a valid subject but the religious beliefs of the teachers themselves is not important to them doing their job just as their sexuality or politics is not important either.
A teachers job is to tell the truth about the world and encourage the students to develop thier life skills and to think for themselves.
la2111 1 year ago 28
@la2111 Ban Evolutionary theory too then right ? ;)
abarford1 11 months ago
@abarford1 No that would be absurd. Evolution forms the backbone of biology. It is backed up by 200,000 peer REVIEWED scientific journals and paleontology, geology, molecular biology, carbon dating etc.
The writings of the bible, qu'ran and other holy books are not backed up by evidence (maybe some historical evidence) therefore these do not belong in the science class, for example.
Yes teach them as comparative religions and as works of literature, but as a basis of truth - certainly not..;-)
la2111 11 months ago
@la2111 And Christianity forms the backbone of most western countries Constitutions, Law, Marriage and Morals and is accepted by more people as the form of truth then Evolution is. If your going to teach one theory you might as well teach them all. So at the end of the day it comes down to choice of religion whether it's puting your faith in Darwin's Theory or Religious Theory. I'd Rather my children learning they were created for a purpose and are loved then just grew out of monkies ;)
abarford1 11 months ago
@abarford1 Christianity used to form the backbone of Western countries but it has been domesticated for some time.
Evolution is the truth - if you dont know that then you know nothing. As for teaching one theory or another - thats fine as long it has evidence to back it up. Darwins theory does not require faith. Faith is a belief in the supernatural without evidence.
And the purpose of your children is to transfer their genes to the next generation.
And the plural is monkeys btw...;-)
la2111 11 months ago
@la2111 "Evolution is the truth" ... really ? Go look up the definitions of a Theory and a Law then get back to me. So in that Statement your've really proven my point, the fact that you think that it's the Truth when it's not means you have faith in the Theory right ? Ofcourse, but because evoution has ridden the back of natural selection and said look look if it happens throughout species why doesn't it change a species? Go past your highschool biology classroom buddy and learn the otherside;)
abarford1 11 months ago
@abarford1 Evolution is scientific theory. The term theory in science is the grand daddy and is not the same as the general term theory. Gravity is a scientific theory as well. Evolution is a fact in the same way that gravity is a fact. But evolutionary theory is far more understood than theory of gravity. On the basis of scientific method, evolution is a fact. We have witnessed speciation. Educate yourself.
Fishqueen1972 10 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 Really .... "Gravity is a scientific theory as well" you sure you dont want to look that up kiddo ? Now your geting really confused with Natural Selection and Evolution, lets not get ahead of ourselves here. We selective breed which is a form of Natural Selection and in areas where the environment has changed, eg industrial era, a diffrent trait of a breed has survived, eg black moths. Now if evoultion was true we would of seen it with bacteria which we havn't. Go Educate yourself
abarford1 10 months ago
@abarford1 Actually, we have seen evolution with single celled organisms. A single celled algae changed into a multi-celled animal in a petri dish and it was natural selection. "Now if evolution was true we would of seen it with bacteria which we haven't". This is just an assertion without any factual basis.
Fishqueen1972 10 months ago
@abarford1 I did a little research and guess what. Bacteria has evolved. We have witnessed it through experimentation in a laboratory. There you go.
Fishqueen1972 10 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 has it changed into anything besides bacteria ??? i know it has not, and this is what evolution is asking us to believe.
toiwin 9 months ago
@toiwin Evolutionists wouldn't expect it to. There is a scientist who has been working on a hypothesis for 20 years on how the prokaryote cell evolved into the eukaryote cell. Her findings are very significant. The eukaryote cell has two distinct sets of DNA working in a symbiotic relationship, (nuclear DNA & mitrochrondia DNA). We would not expect bacteria to evolve a completely different set of DNA. This happens when one type of prokaryote engulfs another type and it has been observed.
Fishqueen1972 9 months ago
@toiwin And one more thing about what would we would expect. There are classifications of different types of bacteria which is what we call different species of bacteria. Bacteria has been observed to evolve new traits which would place them in a different category of species. So we have observed bacteria evolve into a different species.
Fishqueen1972 9 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 actually they are called strains of bacteria and if notice they are still called bacteria. Most species can adapt to different environments that does not mean they change animal types. Evolution is rubbish and only accepted by those who WANT to TRY to believe it, cos it takes alot of ignoring of facts. They never found the missing link between ape and human, but worse they never found the micro organisms that have changed to monkeys either.
toiwin 9 months ago
@toiwin Really, tell that to the brilliant Francis Collins, a Christian, who accepts common descent and rejects intelligent design. And statistically speaking, those with higher IQs accept the theory of evolution. And those with lower IQs don't even understand it & have to resort to Strawman fallacies in order to argue against it like yourself. If you don't want to believe it, then don't. But get out of arguing against it with science because you fail. Just admit you prefer to believe in magic.
Fishqueen1972 9 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 hes wrong and your wrong. I believe my father in heaven who himself said, he created all things ! i believe him not you. You have done nothing for me, but to deride my belief based on others testimony. I have had personal miraculous proof and intervention in my life from God, there can be NO question in my mind of hiswords, as he does not lie. Mans feeble interpretation of his creation is poor to say the least! you are betting all in on someone elses theory.
toiwin 9 months ago
@toiwin Miraculous interventions in your life??? Wow, yet there are thousands of children who die horrifically from disease, accidents, and famine. Where are their miracles? Religion is the most self centered arrogant narcissistic form of delusion that has ever plagued the human species.
Fishqueen1972 9 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 well in order to understand that, you had better start learning a few things. Faith, agape love, reciprocity, worship, love, relationship, authority, miracles, each of these is a long study. Gods character is a life long study. Spritual authority in the heavenlies, mans authority on earth, intercessory prayer. ETC oh and yes, you need God to translate for any understanding at all.
toiwin 9 months ago
@toiwin The point still stands. And you have your beliefs and Francis Collins who is an educated Christian thinks differently than you as a Christian. He probably thinks this preoccupation some people have with a literal interpretation of Genesis is petty and shallow. That being said. You can believe what you want and feel free to disagree and criticize, but understand that the same will be done to you. For there is nothing about you which gives you more rights than me or Mr. Collins.
Fishqueen1972 9 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 oh but contraire, your whole foundation of thought is built on sand. Do some proper study of the whole aspect of truth and deception. See yt channel fuelproject, vids know your enemy. It shows the spiritual outworking of the enemy saten and his plans for the future. You are just caught up in the middle with no idea as to what is the the truth and what is coming if you stay in delusion. Truth is JESUS, he is coming for those who LOVE him. choice is yours
toiwin 7 months ago
@toiwin Is God like the The Riddler from batman? Seriously. God has the power to destroy but allows a villian like Satan to live so he can mess around and deceive and treat humans like a mouse in a maze. God's purpose for us is to make life a riddle? What the heck? I see this spiritual world you speak of as a reflection of human weakness and you fail to even give God good traits. How many fantasy books have you read?
Fishqueen1972 7 months ago
@Fishqueen1972 go back to sleep now, shhh, its ok, at least i tried
toiwin 7 months ago
@abarford1 "Now if evoultion was true we would of seen it with bacteria which we havn't. Go Educate yourself".
I missed this little gem earlier lol.
The reason why new antibiotics have to be continuously developed is precisely because bacteria have evolved.
The random mutation of their genes and non random natural selection by their environment led to microbial resistance. For example MRSA.
Now don't you feel silly? You are free to refute me with bible quotes......YAWN!
la2111 10 months ago
@la2111 Any higher lifeforms there in your petri dish ? Like I said, Go educate yourself. Like I said before, it takes an equal amount of faith to believe in evolution then it does any other religion. Both offer explanations but no real rock hard evidence. You fail sir, good day.
abarford1 10 months ago
@abarford1 You give me the horrible feeling of not knowing what you are talking about.
As for educating myself; I have read the bible (2 different interpretations) the qu'ran, hadith and other religious texts. I found some of these writings poetic (but mostly vague & tedious) but at no point did I feel the need to take them literally. I have 2 science degrees and have worked in research.
So im well aware of both sides of the 'debate'. Hence my original interest in this video......;-)
la2111 10 months ago 14
@la2111 "You give me the horrible feeling of not knowing what you are talking about." You give me the horrible feeling of knowing what you are talking about you dont know :p
abarford1 10 months ago
@abarford1 There is a scientist who has been working on her hypothesis for 20 years on how the prokaryote cell evolved into the eukaryote cell. Eukaryotes have two distinct sets of DNA working in a symbiotic relationship. Her findings are significant. This has been observed along with the fact that amino acids have been created in the lab. So here we have evidence for the possibility of natural phenomena against supernatural magic. Sorry, both do not hold equal weight in the evidence dept.
Fishqueen1972 9 months ago
@abarford1 "Go educate yourself. Like I said before, it takes an equal amount of faith to believe in evolution then it does any other religion. Both offer explanations but no real rock hard evidence. You fail sir, good day."
Wow, I couldn't believe such ignorance from a young man, but you're from australia, I suppose the school system was like mine in South Africa in the 70's, compulsory religion and worshiping, never heard of the words evolution and big bang until 30 years later
saintpine 6 months ago
@abarford1 Its you that need to look up theory. In science, theory is not an opinion. It is evidence based i.e. evolution.
Science is the search for truth even if the outcomes are not to our liking (there are no white lies in science).
As for evolution riding the back of natural selection? I'm not sure what you mean. But through evolution by random mutation and non-random natural selection, species do indeed change.
p.s. there is no 'other side' in biology which was the point I was making...
la2111 10 months ago
@la2111 if you have a group of people that have no light or morals in them, you have hate murder lies stealing darkness, What you dont understand is that the light and goodness that is in the world is there as a result of God being IN a persons life and leading them to do good to others. Take God away, and you are left with darkness and a quick slide down to a horrible existence for everyone concerned.
toiwin 9 months ago
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lizard6533 7 months ago
@la2111 When you can't even talk about the inconsistences in a theory, oh lets say evolution, and give your honest opinion, which might be against it, you can't if it is positive towards a belief in God but as long as it isn't involving God, that's OK.? Bigot, hater, intolerant, idiot, religious zelot, these are just some of what those who do speak out are called, if the UK was anymore secular it would be communistic.
vbirdieb 6 months ago