Religion or mind control Polygamy - FLDS Mormon Church

[WonderfulAkari]

I think people should be allowed to live in their beliefs, but if someone decides to leave that belief; You have ABSOLUTELY no right to force them to stay. Also, it's wrong to force a young girl to marry, marriage and childbirth is to big of a responsibly and there's no way a girl that young has a brain developed enough to make that decision.

[ElderJoseph]

@WonderfulAkari " Also, it's wrong to force a young girl to marry"

Brigham Young; JOD 17 page 159

"..concerning celestial marriage, and I want to say to my sisters that if you lift you heels against this revelation, and say that you would obliterate it, and put it out of existence if you had the power to nullify and destroy it, I say that if you imbibe that spirit and feeling, you will go to HELL, ...You sisters may say that plural marriage is very hard for you to bear. It is no such thing."

[ElderJoseph]

@WonderfulAkari " marriage and childbirth is to big of a responsibly and there's no way a girl that young has a brain developed enough to make that decision. "

Yes I agree.

Joseph Smith married 14 year olds.LDS Asspostle Orson Pratt married 16 year olds ( and in his fifties!!) and got her pregnant at once. Do they tell you that in LDS lessons? I bet not!

It's LDS origins as created by Joseph Smith, Brigham Young etc you are seeing in the above video.

[WonderfulAkari]

@ElderJoseph Can you site your sources?

[ElderJoseph]

@WonderfulAkari " Can you site your sources?"

You can find all the stuff the LDS church purposely hides from you while it takes your money from you in LDS sources like FamilysearchDOTorg for Joseph Smiths teen little girl brides and you can read LDS publications like Journal of Discourses to find what a tyrant dictator and white supremacist Brigham Young was.

Also check out Todd Comptons book In sacred Loneliness for the polygamy stuff.

[WonderfulAkari]

@ElderJoseph I don't have the JOD is there an online source I can use so I can make a proper rebuttal?

[ElderJoseph]

@WonderfulAkari " I don't have the JOD is there an online source I can use so I can make a proper rebuttal? "

Of course. I used the BYU site because brainwashed LDS recruits told me I was being lied to by antimormons. Once I realised it was actually the LDS institution and it's leaders that is the liar I decided to quit my LDS attendance and spare myself further continuos deception.

PS There is nothing to rebut.

[kissfox5]

Warren Jeffs is evil incarnate. He may have been nice and funny at the start but that was the selling of himself to the innocent people that he was desiring to control. He's where he needs to be now, and I hope he's now getting gang-raped by black men (whom he's always hated) and I hope it hurts. He will indeed wind up dead like Joseph Smith before all is said and done for such BLASPHEMIES against God and Christ. "Vengeance is Mine," thus saith the Lord. (THE REAL JESUS CHRIST, that is!)

[jaensea]

This is Fdls,real mormens are Lds!These kind people are jus scaring me!!!!

[ElderJoseph]

@jaensea FLDS follow the early original LDS leaders teachings. They are followers of the teachings of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor etc.

[EliPride11]

i honestly don´t know the whole mormon story, but i used to be mormon and never in life have i seen anything like racism or polygamy or any other weird thing that the church is accused of, i think it helped to create values, maybe in the past was different i don´t know, i am just saying what i lived

[martinh103]

I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you, and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed." Gal 1:6-8.

[flygrl15]

im mormon and we dont belive in anything like they do, we do not belive in poligomy like they do get ur stuff straight!

[ElderJoseph]

@flygrl15 Of course LDS incorporated believe in Polygamy. Thats why your church still has polygamous sealings in its Temples. The FLDS are practicing what Joseph Smith, Brigham YOung, John Taylor and other early leaders did and taught. Thats where they got it from.

You may not personally but thats not what your church believes and allows in its Temples in readiness for its glorious return literally, but for now it continues spiritually.

[IExposeMormonism]

I'm curious , does anyone know at what age the two eyebrows grow into one?

[Doliath]

History of The Church 3:167

[Doliath]

Actually, Joseph Smith was a 3rd Degree Master Mason. The Scottish Rite, in which one can become a 33rd Degree Mason, did not exist in Illinois at the time.

[Doliath]

Who designed the FLDS Temple in El Dorado?

[ElderJoseph]

I don't know anything about its origin ( except for the influence of Smith, Young and Taylor on the sect) or who built it.

[Doliath]

Because it is absolutely hideous... ugh.

[ElderJoseph]

BigSwoole When you see the history of Joseph Smith and fellow LDS Apostles blatantly lying and deceiving their own church members over polygamy in the past then its no suprise the church leaders of today couldn't give a damn for being honest with its own members and the effects of them finding out they are a bunch of deceivers.

Truth is cutting its own way, thanks to information freely available which was once not in easily accessible reach of ordinary members.

[ElderJoseph]

Err Yes ! lol It's common knowledge.

It's even written about by Richard L Bushman in Rough Stone Rolling ( Stake Patriarch and No1 authority on Joseph Smith's life).

The only people who don't know are the ordinary church members who are not told for good reason, they may jump ship!

The church treats these members as Dumbo's and the less they know the better for them.

[GiftoAll]

FYI Not familiar with Salt Lake? "the Alta academy". It's located at the south east part of the Salt Lake Valley at the entrance to Little Cottonwood Canyon.

About 1 mile up Little Cottonwood Canyon is the LDS church vault. This vault is carved into the solid granite canyon wall. The church keeps an accurate record on each member in the vault because God can not remember all of the members attendance and tithing paid. The LDS church believes that God will need it for Judgement day.

[GiftoAll]

And yes, Warren Jeffs is a pedophile!

[GiftoAll]

That FLDS temple looked like a Muslim Mosque.

It's surprising how many historical similarities there are with Joseph Smith and Mohamed.

[Doliath]

"I would yet tread down my enemies, and walk over their dead bodies; and if I am not let alone, I would be a second Mohammed to this generation, and that it would be one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean; that like Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was, 'the Alcoran or the Sword,' so should it be eventually with us, 'Joseph Smith or the Sword.'"

-Joseph Smith

[dave777blaster]

There is a new movie that is about the blood atonement coming out.

and about the massacre in the USA in the 19th century in Utah.

These off shoots we see today can be practicing this craziness is a scary Idea.

[ElderJoseph]

Brigham Young , so called Prophet of the Mormon church taught Blood Atonement.

It wouldn't suprise me that he still has followers who believe his crap.

[ElderJoseph]

" he is mentally unstable"

Now that would explain alot. I noticed a few mentally illpeople roaming in the ward I attended.

Though I admired the fellow church members for accomodating them, they did make alot of Havoc for the ward and sometimes quite serious!

Even Asylum seekers were taking advantage of our ward members goodwill. They didn't give a hoot for Joseph Smith.

The missionaries were baptising anyone they could in desperation ! lol

[dave777blaster]

"The Blood atonement "

is this still practiced

[IExposeMormonism]

fairldsguy, I am expanding my playlists. the ones as "hypno" were better. so many issues, so little time!

[ElderJoseph]

faitrldsguy What I have noticed is that young Mormon Kids 15 to 18 years old will dialogue really believing we are wrong..  I think once they have served a mission and realised its all a Fraud they have to resort to censorship as the only way to survive as they can't stand the reality and truthful facts pressing on their brains.

[newbirth35]

You better check 2:39 in the video. I think you forgot something. ;)

[ElderJoseph]

cheers lol , Maybe I should have said something like here is a Joseph Smith replica in Warren Jeffs.

[Ilegalplayer]

FLDS MORMONS AND LDS MORMONS Both believe in this!

"...the Lord God did cause a skin of BLACKNESS to come upon them (Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 5:21)"

"And the skins...were DARK,according to the MARK which was set upon their fathers...which WAS A CURSE upon them...(Book of Mormon, Alma 3:6)"

"and the CURSING which hath come upon their skins...(Book of Mormon, Jacob 3:5)"

for this people...shall become a dark, a filthy, and a loathsome people(Book of Mormon, Mormon 5:15)

[WonderfulAkari]

@Ilegalplayer The mark of Cain is in the bible isn't it? Black and darkness are associated with evil in many cultures, but that doesn't mean the descendants of those people are bad, just their ancestors. We all have someone undesirable down the the line who we'd rather not have.

[Ilegalplayer]

FLDS MORMONS AND LDS MORMONS Both believe in this!

FLDS & LDS MORMON SCRIPTURES CALLED PEARL OF GREAT PRICE

"being of the (BLACK AFRICAN)lineage by which he could not have the right of PRIESTHOOD,(Abraham1:26-27)"

24..from (BLACK AFRICAN)Ham,sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land.(Abraham1:23-24)

"..A BLACKNESS came upon all the (BLACK AFRICANS)..of Canaan..(Moses7:8)"

"..seed of Cain were BLACK..(Moses7:22)"

[IExposeMormonism]

Was your " MrNIrom, lying for the lord" pulled down by you or Nazitube? W. Jeffs has quite a voice. slick and thick

[ElderJoseph]

MrNirom claimed copyright breach for one ( you tube removed it) and I took the other two down myself after MrNirom confirmed he had taken down his copyright breach of one of my Videos.

He started it by commenting over my original Mormon Leaders Lying Video and doing a FAIRies style expose of my supposed deception.

So I just borrowed Paul Maughans video expose of MrNirom's mopolgist style answers claiming Mormons don't have to wear temple Garments if they don't want to?

[IExposeMormonism]

I blocked Nirom. little shit. Even though most of these videos only receive a small number of views the effect must be real or ass bite cowards like omiolo wouldn't be screeching like little school girls. I made a playlist ("People exposing mormonism", I think) of some 50 of "us" who make videos showing the inner darkness of Mormonism. And like you or I they 5-50 hits a day. I also photographed it since these cowards are likely to say or do anything to obtain an advantage. moral cowards