@jason101other I had no idea that you, personally could triple tongue on the oboe! That's pretty amazing considering how much more of an advanced technique it is on the oboe than on the flute (If you don't believe me, please try it, really). Also Oboists have considerably less time to practice finger technique than the flute considering all the time they spend making reeds instead of playing the oboe.
There are many much more difficult pieces written from flute than for the oboe. The oboe's repertoire is limited. Also, there is a lot fewer instances of having to be able to do long stretches of double or triple tonguing on oboe than on the flute. And as far as the race comment: big deal. It was very minor and not hateful. There are cultural differences between races. If you think it aint so, you are just plumb stupid. Worldwide, whites are a much smaller minority than asians.
Oh big deal about what the conductor said. Quit playing the victim. I'm sure a white person in China would get equivalent comments- and even worse. It's not that serious at all.
I admire his humility in the way he reacted to the conductor's ignorant racist comment. The chinese are actually very good at music due to the fact that their language is tonal and many chinese classical musicians have perfect pitch.
I heard that Lian played a grenadilla Loree Royal, but after getting to NY, he switched to a violetwood Laubin oboe. Not sure if this is true or not, but I have seen him more recently with a violetwood oboe. However, his doesn't have gold keys like MY Loree violetwood!!
i think there r fewer asian oboe players because of asian traditions. asians usually dont learn music because they want to, but because their parents make them start at like 5 years old. cuz u dont have the size, or the air support so all you can do is violin or piano. when they get older and decide to start a wind instrument, usually ite the parents that decide. considering how most are uneducated in a musical sense, they wotn have any clue what an oboe is.
It's not racist or stupid, it's just the way our culture is--for some odd reason, most Asians play string instruments, such as Yo Yo Ma, etc. The oboe is a rare enough instrument to play successfully because of its dying duck sound when played by an amateur :)
I was born in France. We have tons of good oboists in my country, maybe it's due to large amount of manufacturers we have, the popularity of the instrument and the availability of cane who knows? You can tell what you want, this guy rocks, when he plays there is a lot of life in the sound in the way he plays.
Did you listen to him play Mozart's Concerto for Oboe on here? I'll agree that he has great technique as most of the great European players do, but do you really like his tone that much? Where are you from?
No, this guy who commented before said that Heinz Holliger was way better than Liang. The Concerto for Oboe is a video of Holliger doing it and the tone is just so incredibly bright...
Very inspirational. I am also an male Oboist of color. This is very inspiring. I hope he opens the door for many other non-white male Obosit to believe they can do anything! He seems to have a very good spirit.
He's my idol<3 I've been looking for one ever since my director told me I was the best oboe player he had... Haha.. Though I'm not Chinese, I want to be like him XD
He has a really nice sound. Anyone know what make oboe he plays? Also, regarding difficulty of flute; flute takes more air than oboe, so in that respect breath control can be more difficult on flute for long phrases. However, there is more air pressure for oboe and less consistancy because you constantly use different reeds. This lack of consistancy make it more difficult in a sense that you have to constantly adjust to different reeds.
@darryaz Since I wrote this I read at the Laubin site that he plays a Laubin. I've tried several Laubin oboes, but I'm so used to my Loree Royal that I can't seem to get the sound I want from a Laubin. Still great instruments though.
@sr14225 I remember it took a lot of adjustment when I switched from a Loree (back then they didn't make the Royal) to the Laubin. I really like the Laubin sound. On one occasion (this would have been around 1990) John Mack played my Laubin for about 20 minutes and I thought he sounded even better on it than he did on his Loree.
@darryaz I took a few lessons from John Mack when I went to Baldwin-Wallace. He asked me why I didn't go to CIM, lol. I may give Laubins another go sometime. I like my Royal for now. Also really like the Ludwig Frank oboes.
oboe is not easy. maybe you think it is easy to get a note out of it, but to accually sound good is something completely different. It takes a lifetime of practice.
i agree with you...it does take an AMAZING amount of practice. I play it..and ive played it since june..i can play hs leveled music, form 4-5 hours of practice A DAY...so....yeah...
I agree but flute is up there on difficulty, as well. Tone wise and emboouchure wise. blowing across a hole ain't just it. constant jaw movement, as I mentioned before is also part of it, and constant support, or else we sound like crap. I'm only in the ninth grade, and I don't know better than Mozart. I'm only a 5 year flautist , 4 year piccoloist, and 3 month oboe player. Honestly I think oboe is harder than flute, but I still think flute is extremely difficult.
@bridieissocoollike LOL I wouldn't write the flute off the 'difficult' list just because a monkey can play it. There are also computer programs that compose fugues in the style of JS Bach. That doesn't make Bach any less of a genius, though. I'm sure that monkey can't make his way through flute transcriptions of Paganini's Caprices, or any of Prokofiev's or Muczynski's music.
i used to play flute for like...3 years.. then our band needed an oboe so i volunteered.. i love it!!!!!!! i just started last year.. its haarrdd..and my reed breaks reeally easy!
Do you play in a professional orchestra? Just a question. I value you thoughts, but they seem one sided and immature!! If you a listener, well! Do some research! If you are a student, Well: Study. If you a crazy and one sided person or musician, Well! Enjoy!
What Jobs do you have in order to say anything!!!! Listen, ask your teachers about this, What would they say.... If the respond is: well! I think you are better the FIRST OBOE of THE NEW YORK PHILHARMONIC. Look for another teacher, whomever common on this blog in an negative way, well! Form a realistic and a well rounded opinion.
I am not an Oboe player. I am a fair person, hear me out:
the guy: Liang Wang is one of the best right now from a prospective of his BIO: he won Six Jobs: Met Opera, Cincinnati Symphony, San Francisco Symphony, Santa Fe Opera....... Anybody is trying to challenge, well! If you think you are better than all the musicians in these organization, SURE! This is only my take on this! European, American, Asian Style! How about musical STYLE!
us flautists don't have it easy. changing aw positions and lip, and appetures isn't easy work, not mention angling air across a hole to make an instrument sound good isn't lucky in my books. We got very hard. ANd Not to say obe's don't because the oboe ain't no easy instrument to play all in itself. I'm just trying to say, flutes and oboes are hard.but the flute is slightly harder.
no i just mean they don't have to make reeds and i say oboe is slightly harder but lets agree to dissagree and they are both harder than almost any other instrument but yeah i don't know much about flute except there air just pretty much goes away except like 10%
Wow, the flute is not harder than the oboe at all. You don't have to recreate your instrument every other day. Playing the oboe is like living on the edge. Your reed can actually crack or the back could collapse out of nowhere while you're playing. Flutists don't have to worry about that. You don't have to worry about your your instrument cracking, either (unless it''s made of wood).
Well, that's true but the flute is badly intonated, and our pads wear out easily. Not to mention constant jaw movwentment is a mission. YOu oboes, are able to sustain a note, without blowing over a hole, where as to a flute, only 5-10% of the air goes into the headjoint, and we also have to worry about dents in our instrument. Oboe, is extremely hard to play, as I've only been playing for 3 months now, but Flute for five years, and sustaining a note for about 40 counts is still a mission.
just because the facts and figures are different between oboe and flute doesn't make flute harder... i think different people may find different instruments more difficult, i had to have 2 fairly major operations to reconstruct my mouth/throat so i could continue playing the oboe because the pressure was so much. of course im bias as i played the oboe for a number of years though. godd luck in the future my friend.
Nowadays I sense a lot of "exotism" in performing arts appraisal. So it's not the race especially, but the "unusual". It seems (only seems...) that this aspect of "storytelling" is necessary to get attention of today's audience. You'll find lots of other examples, I'm sure.
That is bull! Oboe has heaps more colour than a whole band of saxaphones. Its sound is magical when you hear an experienced player and even the average oboist could not be topped by any professional sax.
well thats not completely fair, an avarage oboe player usually doesn't have all that much tone and colour and pro sax players often have beautiful sounds.
That being said, I (as an oboist myself :P) would prefer the sound of the oboe to a sax any day, but it takes a really really good oboe player to create that magical enchanting sound which all oboists search for.
Tombeau Menuet was sharp, but I like Liang's playing most of the time. Albrecht Mayer is also very good, and German style for oboe has nothing to do with a darker sound or more expression, it's about how they make reeds and how they produce sound. Also German orchestras tune sharper.
Omg, you again?! You must be REAL insecure to continually bash American oboe playing. Look, American oboe playing is based on subtlety. Albrecht Mayer is German, so he learned to be over-the-top with his form of expression. Hypothetically speaking, if Mr. Wang studied in Germany, he would have the same concept of playing. Furthermore, there is no "way to go" with oboe playing. By the way, having a German sound is not considered a "sensibility." GROW UP. You argue like a child.
Albrecht Mayer has a "crossover" or "hybrid" sound. His sound is perfectly balenced between european and american. It can be said he has the best of the french (flexibility) and german(dark) schools of playing. Which is.... the american school of oboe playing.
How is it that asian musicians playing western classical music are still viewed as a novelty... and the stereotypical "chinese work ethic"...I'm not amused...
It's because if we leave Western classical music to American diletantes, it will be lost as a living art forever. Don't feel insulted the Asian guy was praised for having a real work ethic, have HOPE that all musicians were given the hint that this is what it takes to be a real musician, another lost value, and lost art.
Haha, he does not sound that asian at all. I auditioned for his school (MSM) and had the pleasure of meeting him. What an amazing oboist. My roommate and I fell in love. :]
the first and last songs are the same one, the fourth movement (Rigaudon) of Ravel's Les Tombeau de Couperin (excuse any spelling errors) and the one around 4:05 is the also from that but its the first movement (Prelude) the others sound familiar but i cannot put my finger on it. hope that helps
I like how there's a whole bunch of comments about being Chinese, when half of his point in the video was that it doesn't matter that he's Chinese, he's just there to play oboe.
ohmigod please don't be so immature... it's not his hair color i'm not comfortable with, it's his playing. And just for the record i never said his playing was bad. I just said i didn't like it so much. but hey we're all allowed to have opinions, right?
yeah, seriously you need to fuck off. You really don't deserve to be saying that when you will probably never be able to become half as good as him. I really doubt you can even play Le Tombeau de Couperin nearly as well as he can in this video, if at all.
Wow. ACDC, you're a giant retard. Firstly, ANYONE can audition for a symphony orchestra. It is all about being the best. Hell, if a 3 year old outplayed Liang Wang, they'd get in! It is all about the playing! Secondly, I highly doubt you're better than a professional. You may be the most outstanding at your high school, but, that doesn't make you the best. I'd be willing to bet money you play on store bought reeds and a Bundy oboe.
I think the comments he said about playing in "a closet" was interesting. I think oboists often rely on the room to provide them with good tone and vibrato, and with a small space you have to create your own sound. I myself have recorded my playing in small spaces, and it definitely gives you honest feedback!
It is very differn't. I practice in my bedroom which has a dead sound. I really dislike practicing in there though. The kitchen has a much better sound; however, the bedroom does give an honest sound. Also recording there definately helps me in my practice routine.
wow! thats cool. your really great. i am chinese to! not a lot of oboe players at my school. i am the only one in my grade. love playing my oboe. you make me want to get even better.
Never mind your muscles etc. although that is a good point, if you are so good why is Wang Liang playing principal of the New York Philharmonic and you aren't?
Hey here's one acdcoboe, shut the fuck up. First of all, you're 12 years old. You're stupid and immature and will realize how wrong you really are in a few years. And 2nd of all, your name is acdcoboe. Personally, it is really hard to take someone seriously with a shitty name like that.
don't be silly, you won't sound anything like at twelve, you may think tha you do, but you won't, his uncle was a professional oboist and he started playing at the age of 7, he is in his mid twenties now, it is impossible to sound like that at the age of twelve, and your mouth muscles haven't finished growing yet, ther is a good medical reason too.
what piece is this?
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rockfootball42 3 months ago
@jason101other I had no idea that you, personally could triple tongue on the oboe! That's pretty amazing considering how much more of an advanced technique it is on the oboe than on the flute (If you don't believe me, please try it, really). Also Oboists have considerably less time to practice finger technique than the flute considering all the time they spend making reeds instead of playing the oboe.
ctran04 3 months ago
There are many much more difficult pieces written from flute than for the oboe. The oboe's repertoire is limited. Also, there is a lot fewer instances of having to be able to do long stretches of double or triple tonguing on oboe than on the flute. And as far as the race comment: big deal. It was very minor and not hateful. There are cultural differences between races. If you think it aint so, you are just plumb stupid. Worldwide, whites are a much smaller minority than asians.
jason101other 7 months ago
Oh big deal about what the conductor said. Quit playing the victim. I'm sure a white person in China would get equivalent comments- and even worse. It's not that serious at all.
jason101other 7 months ago
I admire his humility in the way he reacted to the conductor's ignorant racist comment. The chinese are actually very good at music due to the fact that their language is tonal and many chinese classical musicians have perfect pitch.
Haseeb2 9 months ago
I heard that Lian played a grenadilla Loree Royal, but after getting to NY, he switched to a violetwood Laubin oboe. Not sure if this is true or not, but I have seen him more recently with a violetwood oboe. However, his doesn't have gold keys like MY Loree violetwood!!
excalibur1812 1 year ago
I LOVE TOMBEAU!
birdeeboo 1 year ago
i think there r fewer asian oboe players because of asian traditions. asians usually dont learn music because they want to, but because their parents make them start at like 5 years old. cuz u dont have the size, or the air support so all you can do is violin or piano. when they get older and decide to start a wind instrument, usually ite the parents that decide. considering how most are uneducated in a musical sense, they wotn have any clue what an oboe is.
btw im asian and ive lived in china.
theothercanadian 1 year ago
He is my hero. Lock yourself in a closet to get good!!!!
satranifan 2 years ago
OBOE RULES
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Biologically the azns can't play the oboe. It is the sranty eyes and sloped head. This chink is an anomaly for sure.
nineblackkasabian 2 years ago
I more Suprised people Judge Oboe playing by the Race.
The most stupid thing i have ever heard.
Im not braggin but i have ten Races (not chinese)
But enough to know that Asian or not it makes no difference.
Im extremely surprised with what Racism i've just heard.
That guy is good, idk what the hell the Conductor is sayin,
besides bull.
kaimanathemetalhead 2 years ago
@kaimanathemetalhead
It's not racist or stupid, it's just the way our culture is--for some odd reason, most Asians play string instruments, such as Yo Yo Ma, etc. The oboe is a rare enough instrument to play successfully because of its dying duck sound when played by an amateur :)
Lomathiel 2 years ago 3
hehe
i am an asian oboe player
it's too bad i can;t play that well
:(
akoala1007 2 years ago
@akoala1007 YOU CAN DO IT! JUST PRACTICE DUDE!
clarinete09 1 year ago
lol the conductor was salonen.....
FungoBoy 2 years ago
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Oh lord...please let me be a 26 year old chinese Oboe player......U suck bro go back.....maybe take up the violin?
PJB1984 2 years ago
woah, what? are you being serious? is there something you find wrong w/ liang?
blackninja14 2 years ago
I was born in France. We have tons of good oboists in my country, maybe it's due to large amount of manufacturers we have, the popularity of the instrument and the availability of cane who knows? You can tell what you want, this guy rocks, when he plays there is a lot of life in the sound in the way he plays.
fagottobrasil 2 years ago
i like heinz holliger and wiang lang
GreenEmporer 2 years ago
wonderful musician cause all wind instruments have their own way of play and liang plays very well
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brha5 2 years ago
Did you listen to him play Mozart's Concerto for Oboe on here? I'll agree that he has great technique as most of the great European players do, but do you really like his tone that much? Where are you from?
kickpike13 2 years ago
wait, there's a recording of that on here? where is it? i've only heard him playing the Quartet on here :/
blackninja14 2 years ago
No, this guy who commented before said that Heinz Holliger was way better than Liang. The Concerto for Oboe is a video of Holliger doing it and the tone is just so incredibly bright...
kickpike13 2 years ago
Very inspirational. I am also an male Oboist of color. This is very inspiring. I hope he opens the door for many other non-white male Obosit to believe they can do anything! He seems to have a very good spirit.
sexihotfree 2 years ago
He's my idol<3 I've been looking for one ever since my director told me I was the best oboe player he had... Haha.. Though I'm not Chinese, I want to be like him XD
MegTraino0 3 years ago 2
He has a really nice sound. Anyone know what make oboe he plays? Also, regarding difficulty of flute; flute takes more air than oboe, so in that respect breath control can be more difficult on flute for long phrases. However, there is more air pressure for oboe and less consistancy because you constantly use different reeds. This lack of consistancy make it more difficult in a sense that you have to constantly adjust to different reeds.
sr14225 3 years ago 15
He plays a Laubin I think...
Spagyrics 2 years ago
@sr14225 Sounds like a Laubin to me (I played a rosewood Laubin all through grad school)
darryaz 1 month ago
@darryaz Since I wrote this I read at the Laubin site that he plays a Laubin. I've tried several Laubin oboes, but I'm so used to my Loree Royal that I can't seem to get the sound I want from a Laubin. Still great instruments though.
sr14225 1 month ago
@sr14225 I remember it took a lot of adjustment when I switched from a Loree (back then they didn't make the Royal) to the Laubin. I really like the Laubin sound. On one occasion (this would have been around 1990) John Mack played my Laubin for about 20 minutes and I thought he sounded even better on it than he did on his Loree.
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@darryaz I took a few lessons from John Mack when I went to Baldwin-Wallace. He asked me why I didn't go to CIM, lol. I may give Laubins another go sometime. I like my Royal for now. Also really like the Ludwig Frank oboes.
sr14225 1 month ago
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Oboe is not hard.
I just dont know some notes but its easy.
santacluas666 3 years ago
oboe is not easy. maybe you think it is easy to get a note out of it, but to accually sound good is something completely different. It takes a lifetime of practice.
disciple254 3 years ago 8
i agree with you...it does take an AMAZING amount of practice. I play it..and ive played it since june..i can play hs leveled music, form 4-5 hours of practice A DAY...so....yeah...
Hiriness 3 years ago
yeah same here i play 2-5hours of practice and i am glad i do tho
OboePlaya14 3 years ago
Believe me, the oboe is hard!! But so worthwhile omce you get past the beginner cat schreeching stage, thats what I used to sound like anyway!
miriamw123 3 years ago
Dear Rsmith:
Mozart tried to play all the instruments and thought Oboe and Horn are the hardest instruments. Of course, you know better than Mozart.
leondragan1 3 years ago 2
I agree but flute is up there on difficulty, as well. Tone wise and emboouchure wise. blowing across a hole ain't just it. constant jaw movement, as I mentioned before is also part of it, and constant support, or else we sound like crap. I'm only in the ninth grade, and I don't know better than Mozart. I'm only a 5 year flautist , 4 year piccoloist, and 3 month oboe player. Honestly I think oboe is harder than flute, but I still think flute is extremely difficult.
Rsmith19756 3 years ago
there is actually a monkey in japan that can play the flute, so im not sure if its on the 'difficult' list...
im not saying its a rubbish instrument though, they're a pleasure to sit next to in orchestral rehersals :)
bridieissocoollike 2 years ago
@bridieissocoollike LOL I wouldn't write the flute off the 'difficult' list just because a monkey can play it. There are also computer programs that compose fugues in the style of JS Bach. That doesn't make Bach any less of a genius, though. I'm sure that monkey can't make his way through flute transcriptions of Paganini's Caprices, or any of Prokofiev's or Muczynski's music.
XEA6L 1 year ago
i used to play flute for like...3 years.. then our band needed an oboe so i volunteered.. i love it!!!!!!! i just started last year.. its haarrdd..and my reed breaks reeally easy!
jenniegirl95 3 years ago
Le Tombeau de Couperin fourth movement
ObOeiSt808 3 years ago
Thanks
Spagyrics 3 years ago
Excuse my ignorance, what is the piece at the intro?
Spagyrics 3 years ago
Dear EIV....:
Do you play in a professional orchestra? Just a question. I value you thoughts, but they seem one sided and immature!! If you a listener, well! Do some research! If you are a student, Well: Study. If you a crazy and one sided person or musician, Well! Enjoy!
leondragan1 3 years ago
What Jobs do you have in order to say anything!!!! Listen, ask your teachers about this, What would they say.... If the respond is: well! I think you are better the FIRST OBOE of THE NEW YORK PHILHARMONIC. Look for another teacher, whomever common on this blog in an negative way, well! Form a realistic and a well rounded opinion.
Sincerely,
Your Friend
leondragan1 3 years ago
Guys:
I am not an Oboe player. I am a fair person, hear me out:
the guy: Liang Wang is one of the best right now from a prospective of his BIO: he won Six Jobs: Met Opera, Cincinnati Symphony, San Francisco Symphony, Santa Fe Opera....... Anybody is trying to challenge, well! If you think you are better than all the musicians in these organization, SURE! This is only my take on this! European, American, Asian Style! How about musical STYLE!
leondragan1 3 years ago
man flutes are soo lucky they don't have to make reeds or buy them but they are still cool
OboePlaya14 3 years ago
us flautists don't have it easy. changing aw positions and lip, and appetures isn't easy work, not mention angling air across a hole to make an instrument sound good isn't lucky in my books. We got very hard. ANd Not to say obe's don't because the oboe ain't no easy instrument to play all in itself. I'm just trying to say, flutes and oboes are hard.but the flute is slightly harder.
Rsmith19756 3 years ago
no i just mean they don't have to make reeds and i say oboe is slightly harder but lets agree to dissagree and they are both harder than almost any other instrument but yeah i don't know much about flute except there air just pretty much goes away except like 10%
OboePlaya14 3 years ago
true,I agree to disagree too. okay?
Rsmith19756 3 years ago
Wow, the flute is not harder than the oboe at all. You don't have to recreate your instrument every other day. Playing the oboe is like living on the edge. Your reed can actually crack or the back could collapse out of nowhere while you're playing. Flutists don't have to worry about that. You don't have to worry about your your instrument cracking, either (unless it''s made of wood).
Tam9erTime 3 years ago 3
Well, that's true but the flute is badly intonated, and our pads wear out easily. Not to mention constant jaw movwentment is a mission. YOu oboes, are able to sustain a note, without blowing over a hole, where as to a flute, only 5-10% of the air goes into the headjoint, and we also have to worry about dents in our instrument. Oboe, is extremely hard to play, as I've only been playing for 3 months now, but Flute for five years, and sustaining a note for about 40 counts is still a mission.
Rsmith19756 3 years ago
just because the facts and figures are different between oboe and flute doesn't make flute harder... i think different people may find different instruments more difficult, i had to have 2 fairly major operations to reconstruct my mouth/throat so i could continue playing the oboe because the pressure was so much. of course im bias as i played the oboe for a number of years though. godd luck in the future my friend.
bridieissocoollike 2 years ago
The oboe can be such a magnificent instrument it's too bad that talented oboes are very rare, well, at least where I'm from.
redeyes101 3 years ago
Such a beautiful solo...
Spagyrics 3 years ago
i love hte flute player. haha
OoohMyGoosh 3 years ago
every instrument in an orchestra or band (including saxophone) has its own unique tone color, making them all equally important.
goodguy630 3 years ago 3
Ia m totally agree with you.
lavanguardiadelsol 3 years ago
zran4oto what kind of subjects do you think? <just think about the musica no matter wich school it is. Anyway all schools are unifying
oboistCONDUCTOR 3 years ago
The sax is literally one of the most useless instruments. I don't know how anyone could like it (And I've played sax for 6 years)
MercifulMe 3 years ago
I agree MercifulMe but here is not sax is oboe
oboistCONDUCTOR 3 years ago
Sorry, someone had brought up that the tone colour of the sax was superior, which is absolutely incorrect.
MercifulMe 3 years ago 2
i put that in response to something else, not to me thinking that Wang Liang plays oboe
MercifulMe 3 years ago
yeah i played sax for about 2 and 1/2 years and i found it useless and now i play oboe
OboePlaya14 3 years ago
I didn't know that race mattered in music....
alyssacroacia 3 years ago 2
Nowadays I sense a lot of "exotism" in performing arts appraisal. So it's not the race especially, but the "unusual". It seems (only seems...) that this aspect of "storytelling" is necessary to get attention of today's audience. You'll find lots of other examples, I'm sure.
hasbeenshaken 3 years ago
yeah i play alto sax right know and am going to switch to oboe soon because oboe has one of the most enchanting sounds
ororon123 3 years ago
That is bull! Oboe has heaps more colour than a whole band of saxaphones. Its sound is magical when you hear an experienced player and even the average oboist could not be topped by any professional sax.
nicole93099 3 years ago 2
well thats not completely fair, an avarage oboe player usually doesn't have all that much tone and colour and pro sax players often have beautiful sounds.
That being said, I (as an oboist myself :P) would prefer the sound of the oboe to a sax any day, but it takes a really really good oboe player to create that magical enchanting sound which all oboists search for.
ondaran 3 years ago 3
Tombeau Menuet was sharp, but I like Liang's playing most of the time. Albrecht Mayer is also very good, and German style for oboe has nothing to do with a darker sound or more expression, it's about how they make reeds and how they produce sound. Also German orchestras tune sharper.
sswaring1 3 years ago
He was not sharp. He makes his reeds to tune the orchestra at 442.
TwelveToneRow 3 years ago 3
Nice sax
ElVizconde 3 years ago
he's amazing.
maguireandnina 3 years ago
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Check Albrecht Mayer. German sound and expression. That is the way to go. Sensibility that oboist from the USA lack.
ElVizconde 3 years ago
Omg, you again?! You must be REAL insecure to continually bash American oboe playing. Look, American oboe playing is based on subtlety. Albrecht Mayer is German, so he learned to be over-the-top with his form of expression. Hypothetically speaking, if Mr. Wang studied in Germany, he would have the same concept of playing. Furthermore, there is no "way to go" with oboe playing. By the way, having a German sound is not considered a "sensibility." GROW UP. You argue like a child.
Tam9erTime 3 years ago 2
Over-the-top form of expression? that is real funny. This guy is just boring, what Can I say?
I knew that I wouls see you again :)
ElVizconde 3 years ago
Albrecht mayer- American sound. Good job at making yourself look like a fool.
loofascraper 3 years ago
I don't understand what you mean.
ElVizconde 3 years ago
A good example of a european sound is heinz holliger not mayer. Mayer sounds more like an american than a european
loofascraper 3 years ago
What???? get real.
ElVizconde 3 years ago
You need to listen to European oboe players. Mayer has nohing to do with USA sound. You need to study more.
ElVizconde 3 years ago
Albrecht Mayer has a "crossover" or "hybrid" sound. His sound is perfectly balenced between european and american. It can be said he has the best of the french (flexibility) and german(dark) schools of playing. Which is.... the american school of oboe playing.
bmwski0507 3 years ago
american school of oboe playing... I doubt it. The expression, technique, vibrato is very German.
ElVizconde 3 years ago
@bmwski0507
I've thought the very same thing about Mayer's playing!!
It's not "TYPICAL" Berlin sound, like Lothar Koch had in the 60's and 70's.
excalibur1812 1 year ago
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Boring sound, he reminds me John Mack
ElVizconde 3 years ago
subtlety for you. For me it is luck of expression.
There is no way to go with oboe playing. I agree. I just don't like it.
I never said that sound is synonym of expression.
ElVizconde 3 years ago
are you saying that learning the oboe is pointless? You could be a proffessional obeist, and its a great way to get a colloege scholar ship.
Its just like learning any other insturment, its just the best one out there
grayson583 3 years ago
hao li hai zhi chi ni wang liang
tubayz 3 years ago
He's so good! He plays beautifully! AH he really makes that oboe sing!!!
orangutanbaybe 3 years ago 2
yeah zhong guo the best
ainhoa4567 3 years ago
How is it that asian musicians playing western classical music are still viewed as a novelty... and the stereotypical "chinese work ethic"...I'm not amused...
kitsune11888 3 years ago
It's because if we leave Western classical music to American diletantes, it will be lost as a living art forever. Don't feel insulted the Asian guy was praised for having a real work ethic, have HOPE that all musicians were given the hint that this is what it takes to be a real musician, another lost value, and lost art.
totallybarefoot 3 years ago
This guy is essentially my hero.
releasethefrogs 3 years ago
Haha, he does not sound that asian at all. I auditioned for his school (MSM) and had the pleasure of meeting him. What an amazing oboist. My roommate and I fell in love. :]
P.S. He's 1000x cuter in person hehe
stoleneternity 3 years ago
:-(
kitsune11888 3 years ago
Masahito Tanaka....wonderful Asian bassoonist.
Don't feel so great.
kevineberle 3 years ago
Really Really Beautifull!!
I also play the Oboe.. and it would be great to have the same perfect sound he has.
Jitske93 4 years ago 2
Around 2:01 they are playing the third movement (Menuett)
1:25 hes playing the opening oboe solo for the third movement (Menuett)
loofascraper 4 years ago
Your not a chinese, not an american. You're human! And as this you are great! A great oboist!
hotzeplotz83 4 years ago
the first and last songs are the same one, the fourth movement (Rigaudon) of Ravel's Les Tombeau de Couperin (excuse any spelling errors) and the one around 4:05 is the also from that but its the first movement (Prelude) the others sound familiar but i cannot put my finger on it. hope that helps
blooddrinkerhamster 4 years ago
At 1 40 its from the Minuet.
MercifulMe 3 years ago
does anyone know any of the three pieces he played in this video. im sure someone out there recognizes one of the pieces...
blackninja14 4 years ago
I like how there's a whole bunch of comments about being Chinese, when half of his point in the video was that it doesn't matter that he's Chinese, he's just there to play oboe.
BananaOfDoom 4 years ago
pround of Chinese XDXD =ˇ=Y
TaiwanJuniorBoy 4 years ago
He plays beautifully, near perfection. Also, his style is very light, and his playing looks like it doesn't take great effort. It's amazing.
His tone is very flute-like and soft, and quite American-style.
I, personally, like the European type of tone better, which does not take anything away from this guy's perfomance though.
bpcw001 4 years ago
Wow. What song is he playing at the beginning?
poptartpyro 4 years ago
Ravel's Le Tombeau de Couperin.
stuffestuff 4 years ago
thanks
godlovesyou333 4 years ago
Lol I want to punch him on the face.
jk jk jk jk
buy funny to think about it :D
JimmyChiffels 4 years ago
lol you sound like peter griffin
rubyschnauzer 4 years ago
ohmigod please don't be so immature... it's not his hair color i'm not comfortable with, it's his playing. And just for the record i never said his playing was bad. I just said i didn't like it so much. but hey we're all allowed to have opinions, right?
nopo89 4 years ago
How should a NYPO's principal sound like?Please describe, I guess you are uncomfortable with his hair color more than his playing.
Hautbois01 4 years ago
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can't believe that he's principal player in NY... i mean he's good, but not that good.
nopo89 4 years ago
yeah, seriously you need to fuck off. You really don't deserve to be saying that when you will probably never be able to become half as good as him. I really doubt you can even play Le Tombeau de Couperin nearly as well as he can in this video, if at all.
stuffestuff 4 years ago 2
Wow. ACDC, you're a giant retard. Firstly, ANYONE can audition for a symphony orchestra. It is all about being the best. Hell, if a 3 year old outplayed Liang Wang, they'd get in! It is all about the playing! Secondly, I highly doubt you're better than a professional. You may be the most outstanding at your high school, but, that doesn't make you the best. I'd be willing to bet money you play on store bought reeds and a Bundy oboe.
Oboesasms45 4 years ago
He is wonderful! He has such a great sound!
Oboefreak312 4 years ago
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HE SUCKS!
Zorroness 4 years ago
Who's better, then?
ThaSchwab 4 years ago
kesinlıkle harika bir ton.sesler kusursuz...
cophana 4 years ago
I think the comments he said about playing in "a closet" was interesting. I think oboists often rely on the room to provide them with good tone and vibrato, and with a small space you have to create your own sound. I myself have recorded my playing in small spaces, and it definitely gives you honest feedback!
udsteph34 4 years ago 2
It is very differn't. I practice in my bedroom which has a dead sound. I really dislike practicing in there though. The kitchen has a much better sound; however, the bedroom does give an honest sound. Also recording there definately helps me in my practice routine.
learjet4 4 years ago
Ravel's Le Tembeau de Couperin
dcyzak 4 years ago
What piece is the orchestra playing at the begining of the video? I can't place it! Thanks
usnhorn 4 years ago
its liang wang
Leoml88 4 years ago
That's the English way of saying it; last name first.
ThaSchwab 4 years ago
He's a cutie and dang does he know how ot play!!!! Shine on cutiepants!!!
Autumnluvrgrl26 4 years ago
... a little disturbing
ew6895 4 years ago 3
acdc oboe is just a whiney little bitch let him think he's good he'll find out anyway when he gets past his "school band level."
EnglishHornYay 4 years ago
Nice! I've been playing the oboe for awhile.. I play the flute as well :O Anyway I pretty much suck at the Oboe, lol.. 5/5 :D
Lolipoke 4 years ago
I think its very nice to see foreigners succeed in american orchestras!!!!
fattenor 4 years ago
im too young duh!!! do you honestly think they would let a 12 year old into that??? duh!! think!!
acdcoboe 4 years ago
What a great sound and he seems so humble and dedicated
angelhalo2 4 years ago
i def congratulate him.
sulleynboo 4 years ago
aw he's so humble.
i just love him!
theseventhviolist 4 years ago
wow! thats cool. your really great. i am chinese to! not a lot of oboe players at my school. i am the only one in my grade. love playing my oboe. you make me want to get even better.
biblesrule24 4 years ago
im the only one in my grade too.
ZtheHedgehog 4 years ago
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Chinese with American sound... i don't like that sound.. it is just personal anyways.... oboe with sax sound
ElVizconde 4 years ago
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you have no clue stupid person. im in a symphonic wind ensemble so i know what im talking about when i say that im as good as him.
acdcoboe 4 years ago
Never mind your muscles etc. although that is a good point, if you are so good why is Wang Liang playing principal of the New York Philharmonic and you aren't?
markbiggins 4 years ago 3
you really are a spoiled stupid shit arent you?
fattenor 4 years ago 2
Hey here's one acdcoboe, shut the fuck up. First of all, you're 12 years old. You're stupid and immature and will realize how wrong you really are in a few years. And 2nd of all, your name is acdcoboe. Personally, it is really hard to take someone seriously with a shitty name like that.
stuffestuff 4 years ago 3
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i play the oboe and im only 12 and sound almost as good as him.
acdcoboe 4 years ago
don't be silly, you won't sound anything like at twelve, you may think tha you do, but you won't, his uncle was a professional oboist and he started playing at the age of 7, he is in his mid twenties now, it is impossible to sound like that at the age of twelve, and your mouth muscles haven't finished growing yet, ther is a good medical reason too.
oboegirl1101 4 years ago
Humility is a virtue that you are sorely lacking.
orangeandgreen 4 years ago
I love this guy he's got an amazing sound! ah! I love it when oboists can really play like this and show that not all of us sound like ducks
mdorisi 4 years ago
I'm seeing the NYPH performing peter and the wolf tomorrow!
EnglishHornYay 4 years ago
I'm part Chinese. Good on Wang Liang for following his dreams! He's a great oboe player! :)
andreamoboe 4 years ago
hey its liang! he's a friend of mine - i owned him at table tennis and he was the champion at Curtis! he's a cool dude
prsguitarsr4me 4 years ago
wow - he has beautiful phrasing - he makes each not really sing!
mistermancan 4 years ago
I'm part chinese :)
WyattOboe 4 years ago
Lmao I'm a obeoist and I'm vietnamse/japanese.
Captureitall 4 years ago
Such a nice clear tone, other oboes sound duckish but this makes him be recognized.
WyattOboe 4 years ago
This guy rules....he looks like jet li also
theothepatmian 4 years ago
With all his talents, Wang Liang could become the next Marcel Tabuteau of the oboe.
ahrivnak 4 years ago