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  • They should make snipers get 2 shot headshots, headshots are too easy to get anyways!

  • They shouldn't downgrade snipers if they're motto is "Is it real? Or Battlefield 3?". Why? Because it's not their fault dumb bitches rush around all the time into the open field where they're easily get-able by snipers. ಠ_ಠ

  • i play on hardcore cause i am

  • I took a hole to my chest . *ahem*

  • Nice commentary! In my opinion snipers are to weak, they should kill with one shot everytime you hit the upperbody. The sniperclass is the hardest class to play with, every good sniper know that. But one question: Which map is that you´re playing on?

  • I want it to be super hard to quick scope!

  • You suck at sniping

  • You shut

  • The guy that went prone just before you fired and then killed you was pro.

  • Ya i like the changes

  • ur good player but i hate qickscop at bf3 i like it at call of duty in bf3 i like playin like a real sniper player

  • do have to have the back to karkand to get the L96 sniper

  • @619FansRuleV2 Yup...

  • @619FansRuleV2 No. As he said, it is the 2nd weapon you unlock for the Recon class.

  • I don't think all shots with a bolt action should be one shot kill, but at least put them in last stand... to still be running around after being tagged by a sniper is almost near impossible.

  • best thing would be give the soflam to the engineer and they give us c4 for that:)

  • @Cartelgaming Whilst I would love to get C4 for the Recon, the combination of SOFLAM and Javelin given to the Engineer at once takes away the teamwork element. (Also, the SOFLAM fits a reconnaisance however you spell it roll)

  • As a regular user of the recon class in BF3, it frustrates me that there isn't a one-shot sniper out there. Granted, score a lot of headshots, but when I do land a body shot, it really should kill, if not leave them with very little health. As it stands, ~55 damage for a bolt action and ~35 for a semi auto is just too low. ~55 for a body shot with a semi and 100 with a bolt action would be fair, I think - maybe a little more than 100 for the M98B, so that a limb shot would count as around 60ish.

  • yea that would be really cool

  • is there a 1shot 1kill sniper in bf3?

  • @MeSamGh Almost every sniper is one shot kill but that's only close up.

  • How do u get L96 sniper?

  • @TH31S0L4T3R Use Recon kit/class until you unlock it. If you're good, it should take less than two hours since the L96 is in the beginning.

  • u are good at snipeing

  • i play recoon and i think it shouldn't be 1hk with bolt action rifles. At least 60% of the people play recoon class the way it is now, imagine what would be if we could HK in the upper body?? I know it would be more realistic, but in real life sniper rifles are totally OP and in the game we need things to be more balanced.

  • What system do u play on?

  • Sorry i havent many recon scopes so what is this scope?

  • @saarnilehto123 12x Ballistic

  • Quick Scope Ruins the game!!!

  • is that the first sniper u unlock on your own(not the default)?

  • @JDCredible Nope, you unlock QBU-88 first. I don't enjoy it to much thought. :)

  • @Luccs123 thanks

  • slugs for headshots with a shotgun bro, buckshot is a bunch of tiny bbs

  • I completely agree with you on everything you said.

  • This gun is great period

  • when i snipe on ps3 it seems like im playing against bots its so easy 

  • the snipers are supposed to be fucking overpowered the caliber of thier bullets would blow a fucking hole in ur chest in close quarters i say go wit the agreement thingy

  • @XxtrigahapayxX This isnt real life, its a game, how would you feel if someone sniped you with iron sights 2 meters away?

  • @Spookiez01 i would be like watever i wouldnt care cuz i would do the same

  • Snipers need to be more powerful

  • i think sniper rifle are overpowered in normal mode. The m98 often kills in 1 shot, with a normal weapon you need AT LEAST 4 shot at really short distance, and even 6 shots or more on longer distance.... really annoying

  • @BubuSnow93 You obviously have not used a sniper rifle then! they only kill in one shot if its in the head, the sniper class was raped of all the good things from bad company 2 sniper class is now set up for mainly for campers, you can however use it to get your squad in places it is hard to get to if the sniper can get there and put a spawn beacon down.

  • @cheesy1231 go back to school because you have bad grammar

  • @cheesy1231 I don't play CoD, but nice try.

  • M98B x8 scope with straight pull bolt about 2500 kills

    L96 x8 scope with straight pull bolt about 2100 kills

    Close range most people don't stand a chance.

  • Can you kill someone with an L96 without doing a hedshot

  • ok am a cod fan all the fucking way but this looks so beast so all go rent it all be right back

  • @2000jeran : Did you rent it yet? Like it?

  • @DJParkesie959II not really all go by it because when i got it i didnt have a gay ass online free pass on it to use so if i by it all have one

  • @2000jeran : Oh okay then, sorry for the trouble.

  • In Bad Company 2 it was hilarious to place C4 on the road or a tank and watch the vehicles explode. Bring back recon C4!

  • 1. The argument that in real life a m98b would kill you in one shot isnt valid. by that logic you could take out med packs, paddles, jets, one person driving and operating a tank etc.

    2. I'm not going to brag but i dont have trouble going 20 and 5 in a game. thats not a great score but an average. and 18 of those are headshots. i'm not a pro gamer, headshots in BF are just not as hard as people make it sound.

    3. why even make a change to a gun that is never supposed to be used up close?

  • Like your vid :) Good player and nice weapon :)

  • I think the recon class should be like ot was in bc2. the class wasnt OP but it wasnt weak too. but the first thing i want is my C4!!!

  • I completed agred with you if the recon class have c4 will be a lot better!

  • good vide man Greetings from Costa Rica

  • If the game is looking for realism, then the M98B needs put a hole in your chest if that is the shot. The others, it depends, a 7.62 can tear you up, but not obliterate like the M98, and the SVD should do the same damage as the L96 because of the same caliber round. And the Magnum pistol, should be a 1-2 shot kill anywhere, its powerful enough to take your head off.

  • @RangerColinLZ It's not entirely about realism though, it's about balancing the weapons out so everyone has a fair chance. If a game gets too realistic then things become complicated and players become frustrated and the game loses players. EA and Dice will not want that seeing as they make the most money from Battlefield 3 and Bad Company 2.

  • Good change, snipers are WAY too weak, M98B to the chest would leave a fist sized hole and its not a 1 shot.

  • @xMasSaCreDx Almost any sniper would leave a hole in the chest. EA did the right thing.

  • @xMasSaCreDx In other words, you can't sniper for shit in a Battlefield game so you moan about it. Go back to CoD.

  • @xMasSaCreDx that is why you play hardcore servers :/

  • It looks like a Sniper class, but it ends up being just some support class that was made to mark people, and not actually kill. Beginners trap at it's finest, and I love it.

  • C4!!!!

  • 1 shot 1 hitmarker? No gimme the dam kill please, Hard enough to bolt...twice lol :/

  • arg... DICE Will make bf3 to a cod Damn i hate cod

  • I think they should at least one shot at close range, it is a kinda annoying to shoot a 50 Cal to a guy like 5m and he don't die

  • @altu892 That's to keep faggots from Cod away.

  • Good video dude, but I disagree with most of it anyway :D

  • yeah i agree with you about everything even the c4. most of the people i have talked to that didnt like the 1 shot kills up close to mid range with bolt actions were always the weaker players and all the better players didnt mind it and think thats how it should be.

  • Recon should stay is it is.

  • is ur sensitivity half way or under?

  • I have to say ya it will be cheap and everyone will do it but I want this change the whole reason I don't use bolt action is because I get upper body shots and the guy lives so I feel that it should be changed in that sense

  • matimi0 good vids man! I'm very big on recon class, I have over 3300 kills in bfbc2 with M95 and over 2000 with my 1911 two of my favorite guns,good to know theres another hardcore sniper out there. I personally think recon class should be 1 hit 1 kill for bolt action, autos 2 too 4 hits depending on the rifle, and I do agree that recon class needs C4, not having it in BF3 is ridiculous! recon is a HARD class, all who think otherwise have serious issues. 1 bullet 1 chance! dont miss!

  • my fucking brother broke my bf3 when i downloaded back to karkand dlc with the vip code

    the account i down loaded the back to karkand dlc with has bin banned . can i still play back to karkand on another count ? pleas comment back ! im so sad without my bf3 (in tears) i need to know if this will still work.

  • @pike12345selmo did you punch your bro?? xDD joke, im sure you can..

  • @TheCookieSide yes!!!! that little druggie bitch!

  • very impressive with L96. I just started Recon and I have zero kills with L96 but massive kill assist points lol.

  • I am not necessarily against this change, but it seems like no-scoping doesn't really require skill, just luck.

  • i think its great that dice is adding the recon upgrade even though i got pretty used 2 getting headshots.

  • Also i think the gadgets for the recon should be motion sensor/mav and soflam/spawn beacon

  • Upper body one shot one kill was working perfectly on the beta i really hope the make it like that

  • I am well jelly. Just before 3 mins some guy actually helped you! On consoles you never get helped!

  • no offense bro you are good.But like i hate bragging and shit but i am pro and land 600m headshots on average a map and would own you if i played you. Nice shooting though but im a pro,

  • i like the way you are neutral

  • would aim assist help or would it be a disadvantage

  • @LudicrousAndroid it doesent affect much its no way near an aimbot, it only works at close distance 0-10m.

  • Also why do you like the L96? Does it have any special traits like the M98B or the M40A5?

  • I agree with all of your points.

    Also, I'm on console, any tips for getting lots of headshots?

  • The recon class should have claymore just like in bf2 it is much better

  • @mammusmo to nooby ad cod like

  • Instead of giving the recon class C4, why not give it some sort of timed explosive. Have the option to set it to 10, 20 or 30+ seconds? It would give recon some more powerful abilities without stealing the C4 from the support class

  • @MrOllie616 that's a great idea

  • Axe the MAV or make them so that they can't kill/teleport people and I'd be ok with this change but the recon class can't have both.

  • Setting: For singleplayer: Kinda realistic, it's even got the butt-hurt hipster complaining about the war, but Montes is cool though. For Multiplayer: nah not realistic.

    IF people like BF3 for "realism" then they are getting about as much realism as CoD offers, except CoD has killstreaks, and BF3 has vehicles. Battlefield is still very much an arcade game, like CoD. DICE could've added dinosaurs, i mean, i don't see what the problem is, since Battlefield is unrealistic too. still fun though.

  • Tactics: Unrealistic. Unless you and your squad set up a plan to reach a goal, yet that rarely happens, but even if you do initiate the tactics with a squad, it still works out in a very unrealistic way. Why is it unrealistic? Refer to gameplay: "In a real war, groups are organized and tasked to do certain actions."

  • ----These factors off the top of my head are: Graphics, Physics, Guns, Gameplay, Tactics, and Setting. Please excuse me if some of these are similar. Let's classify in what ways Battlefield 3 is realistic:

    Graphics: Realistic

    Physics: Works realistically,

    Guns: Work Realistically (The 'one in the chamber' rule especially. as in one bullet being loaded in the gun already.)

    Gameplay: Non-realistic, yet action-packed. Why? In a real war, groups are organized and tasked to do certain actions.

  • A single recon in BFBC2 could take on an entire enemy team, if the sniper was good enough. (talking about myself here). The 'Realism' argument. Is BF3 really realistic? in what way is it realistic? what do people mean when they say realistic? I went on various videos and asked some commenters what they meant by "realism in video games". Some couldn't answer, and some just said "you know, it's realistic.".

    There are a few factors in games that you can define as 'realistic' or 'aracde'----

  • I think DICE are a bunch of hypocrites. They say that every class should now be able to stand up for themselves. They say now a sniper can stand up for themselves in a fight now. But when did snipers ever have a problem standing up for themselves in Bad Co 2? Bad Co 2 Quick scoping was insane! (and fun). In BF3 the sniper takes two shots unless it's a headshot, and the hangun takes quites a few shots to kill.... it's like they cant stand up for themselves now.

  • also get rid of hip fire reticule for snipers

  • snipers are fine the way they are, if ur in cqc with a sniper, switch to your pistol, thats what happens in real life

  • Quickscoping isn't realistic.

  • ohh nice vid man

  • @Vini0001000 Thanks.

  • 5680 recon kills plz

  • Well i think it would be sorta fair that recon people get this but like he says recon cant do jack to vehicles so it would be a little more fair trade off.More stopping power vs troops because their allmost useless unless they get close enought with the soflam.I think they need 1 of 2 things.They need the rifles to do what were all talking bought do one shots at certin range and with well placed shoot,1 shots at all range on hardcore but only in the chest/head! no pinky toe death!OR the 50 cal!

  • Recon should definitely have C4 but maybe they think that the addition of the PDWs and Shotguns would make too many people play recon then? I think the classes in this game were given too much attention as far as doing everything they could to nerf the recon class and bolster the engineer class- not that it needed it.

  • Everything about the recon class from bfbc2 was perfect. They had the motion detecting balls, c4, and the shots were one hit kills up close to the body. I don't understand why people think it would be too overpowered now when there was a good balance in that game.

  • @TBonafide911 I agree and I would prefer to replace the MAV with the motion detecting balls. If this gets recon out onto the battlefield helping out with the objectives more, I'm all for it. I hate seeing my teammates at the starting spawn point trying to pick people off, especially when they're not that good.

  • I'm sorry but this isn't cod guys, if this happens you'll get so many fags just trying to get as many kills as they can without helping the team's objective, but i do think the recon class should have C4. Also they should make the gunners, medics and the assault to have ammo boxes as unlimited mortar fire is the most dumbest idea.

  • @fatboy32815 mortars get unlimited ammo by default- ammo boxes give them a completely new mortar to deploy

  • In real life these rifles lone run about 3 to 5 thousand dollars. Look up "Accuracy Internation" thats the company that makes them. From th UK.

  • I'm voting for the recon class to be exactly like how it was in BC2, quick scoping at CQB rage should grant you a one hit kill.

  • @2FTproductions its the back to Karkland expansion pack. 1200 microsoft points ($15) i just got it. Worth it in my opinion. And it also came for the pre-order for free. and most the people with it are better than "normal" battlefield players xD

  • back to karkank

  • Battlefield is suppose to be realistic. If you take a .50 cal sniper in real life up close your going to FUCKING RIP SOMEONE SHREDS! I love sniping now that you can get 1 shot kills from long distance to the chest with out having to shoot them twice.

  • @MeatballRules BATTLEFIELD 3 HAVE NOT .50 cal SNIPERS!!!

  • @MeatballRules Um you can't get a one shot kill from long distance in the chest if they have full health it has to be a headshot. However I wish it was that way.

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  • Battlefield has allways been about skill. If the sniper was a 1 hit kill it would make it more like CoD or Medal of Honor

  • whats the gameplay? i havent seen this map for teamdeath or anythin

  • if u wanna quickscope play mw3

  • Support is overpowered as fuck against vehicles, support used to be about using Machine guns for covering fire and supplying your teammates with ammo, give recon the c4

  • Really they should be 1 shot one kill snipers, except SV98 and semi automatic sniper rifles because in real life they would be a 1 shot one kill even in the body. Maybe at long range they should be 2 shots one kill

  • @Sparkz9856 true the should also have distance markers on the 12x scope but do nor agree of 2 shots a range that should aplie to sv98 though

    sry for typing errors

  • @Alonlyorphan yeah

  • I agree the recon class needs some kind of offensive devise for armored vehicles, I get sick of having a tank roll up on me and the only thing I can do is crawl from cover to cover to maneuver away or wait it out.

  • I agree the sniper are just fine the way they are I just go for head shots if you want one to the body play hardcore and they should give us C4 because we have no defense to a tank

  • Don't mind any potential changes to Recon, though I disagree with the c4 for recon idea. Only because shouldn't that same logic be made for Assault too? Assault, even if you're running with a grenade launcher is weak vs vehicles. I find it a little odd they don't have claymores tho.

  • well, snipers in reality would be more powerful up close because the bullet isnt slowing down after traveling, because it isnt traveling far.

  • i wish the sniper is 1 shot kill so i can kinda quick scope and there would be more people playing battlefield.

  • And what about shotgun frag my god those r powerful

  • I'm just saying with the SV98 I'm a hit marker and assists machine

  • i play as a rcon always.i would be happy if they make 1 shot kill at all ranges in hard core mod.

  • The top comment & anyone who liked it is retarded. How can a sniper rifle kill at a long distance but not short? Yea the game is realistic, but you can't control how people play. I think they should implement a system where no matter the range, a shot to the upper body is a one shot kill. That's realistic.

  • @ValentineNICEEE Realism Does not equal Entertainment. It would be more realistic if every gun was a one hit kill to the upper body, but that would suck.

  • when will this patch be added. cause i thinks it's rediculous that my team is less agressive of me when im the sniper. and i do better then them while pushing in rush, also i died cuz i can get one shot one kill unless it's a head shot. which also makes me bring up the matter of close range zooming in with snipers isnt accurate. i hold my scope in after running out infront of tryhards 2 try and shoot their head, i make sure it's lined up and shoot but to get anything. am i doing something wrong?

  • is there hardcore in bf3?

  • @Rustydawg007 yes, yes there is :) the skull mark in the server browser :D

  • @dogb0i where is that at?

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  • talk slower :D kind of difficult for a german :D but great video, i just have to watch it twice :D

  • haha i like how all of matimi0's other videos have about 7,000 views but this one has like 33,000 cause all the call of duty fanboys are looking for quickscoping videos

  • I like the change for close quarters combat. But c4 would be to much. bolt action rifles are slower the fire and I only use the recon class with them and the G18 I get head shot at all ranges but it would be a lot nicer if hitting them with a pointblank shot would drop them.

  • @StaffordNE Yes, I agree. But not if I shot them in the lower half of the body, unless it's the ferminal artery, or whatever it's called.

  • But if they use an acog with a bolt action... Like a shotgun but a longer range then an assault rifle. That's just not fair. I mean it's fine when some idiot uses a rds and runs around because anyone can kill him, but since the acog is still a 4x zoom, he could quick scope and snipe. That's just cheap.

  • if they gave recon c4 it would be nuts. then roughly all kits would wipe the floor with vehicles. and it would bring in fags who c4 a vehicle then look at it from a distance with a scope and just blow it up when someone gets in. it would be retarded.

  • I think a SNiper Rifle should be a one shot kill up close. If I shoot you with a 30-6 in the stomach from 10 feet away its going to blow a hole in you. dead. There is your realism.

  • From what I've noticed... The only people that argue, and complain about quick-scoping usually don't know how to do it themselves... :/ From my perspective: you spend a small fortune on the game, so you should be able to play it the way you want. And to those people that get mad, just remember it's a video game, and things that happen in the virtual world of video games shouldn't effect you emotionally in real life. :/ Just my opinion. O___o

  • if u want a realistic feel to it, then its just dumb that a snipershot to the chest (espesually up close) isnt a 1shot kill... and no its not unbalanced at all. why isnt it unbalanced? because even the shotguns can "snipe" with the slug ammo, sure it takes more skill but its still a 1shot kill :P so why shouldn't the snipers get the same balance at close combat?

  • In BC2 I never saw anyone rushing with the snipers. I myself always used SV98 with agoc and raped whole teams. But then again if it is underused, it can't be overpowered. I do not think this would be any different in BF3. Everyone just cryes they do not want it, yet only few would actually use it to the fullest.

  • I desperately want C4 back on Recon. I hate not having anything to handle tanks. But I also understand that DICE is trying to promote the Recon as a long range support class. So with that in mind I vote that the mortar be taken away from the support class and given to recon. This makes the most sense to me. Recon has a long range way of taking out vehicles (not a highly effective way I may add but at least a way). Support gets C4 which promotes its frontline support role DICE designed it for.

  • Bolt Actions were OHK to the body up to a certain range in BC2 and they were far from being OP. Even if the same mechanics were applied to BF3, they still wouldn't be that great as everyone says they would be because of the higher damage for automatics.

  • you can't quickscope in this game?

  • I dont want them to do it, one of the main reasons i play battlefield instead of cod is because the snipers are balanced

  • I agree snipers are weak against vehicles, they need to bring back the airstrike, always loved to be able to take out a bunkered in opponent, destroy a building, and of course tanks!

  • i agree with you 100% snipers should be 1-shot kills

  • Lets just give recon invisibility and portable nukes just like ghosts have in SC2

  • if you play hardcore as much as i do, 360 only, the amount of snipers increases dramatically from normal, about a 33% increase in the amount of recons/team. this is only because of one major reason and possibly a second. the major one is the OHK at any range, which i myself have been tempted to try, but i personally stick with m39/acog the few times i used recon, the other is stealth through lack of spotting but that is too minor to count. plus 90% of recons camp in the back anyway.

  • If only I bought this instead of Cod

  • yeah, agree with what you're saying its going to take skill to kill the person infront of you at close range and not many people on battlefield will be able to pull it off close range most the time. more montages the better, the more people will actually try harder on battlefield to get those kills they need.

  • I completely disagree with your opinion I personally think the sniper should not be a 1 hit kill up close because its only meant to be a long range weapon and Battlefield has always tried to have a realistic feel to it, also no gun should be good at all ranges. It gives a sense of balance to the game.

  • @TheBlueFire20 Well snipers wouldn't be good at all ranges. They would just suck less up close. An assault rifle can take people out at all ranges effectively, while a recon is only good at medium to long distance shots. Yes my argument has flaws because I should use the pistol but I'm just trying to point out that your argument has holes too.

  • @Matimi0 In the video at 0:39 you say that if one where to get a body shot or upper body shot it is a 1 hit kill. Basically completely the upper mass is what you mean, in my opinion a player would look more towards chest height and if where surprised, if say, can easily kill there opponent. Then maybe kill another opponent long range, which gives a sniper a unfair advantage. Also assault rifles do not have nearly the range that a bolt action does.

  • @Matimi0 You have a good point but I agree with TheBlueFire02 I mean if you want body shots to be a 1hk play hardcore if you have the skill to get consecutive headshots play regular and if you come into a close quarters confrontation pull out the pistol I like the game the way it is and I feel this might make more recons more comfortable up close and that is not the role they should be playing they are a supportive class and should play as such clearing out an area allowing you team to push up.