South Dakota Voters to Decide Abortion Law

[Pflyn]

Power to woman, the more the better for our ailing society. Men need a seat further to the back row on this issue.

[soicuw]

DUMB BITCH KILLING BABIES IS NOT A WOMANS RIGHT!

[soicuw]

DUMB BITCH

[underdawg47]

I think it is a national shame that a person's right to own their own body will be put up to a vote in a state election.

[ChrisTripp]

That's probably the hottest girl in all of South Dakota.

[lmd816]

the fact that this is what republicans are focusing on instead of you know, jobs and the economy, is just making them look bad in terms of priorities. i'm sure these are the same people that, when single mothers need welfare, they will say "we'll i certainly didn't force you to have that baby, why should my taxes go towards that"...bottom line is republicans only care about kids up until they are born, then they can go die, have no health insurance, starve and be uneducated for all they care.

[SatanRobot]

People Dakota need to spread out their gene pool, the incest is obvious, give ya three kidneys to.

[LithiumHammer]

Well, as far as I can tell, the cute chick is fucking people and doesn't want to pay for getting laid.

If you get pregnant, it's your damn fault and your responsibility. Getting the child killed is like having a squadmate in the military die for you. It's selfish and bullshit.

Get past the it's what Christians want, it's common sense, and only wimps and cowards will get abortions.

Unless the woman was raped, in which case, I believe the kid could be aborted, but I still think that is bad.

[Mattm1986]

@cadrolls1

Most abortions do not happen after the age of premature births. Most abortions happen in the first trimester when its still an embryo. And most embryos when their aborted haven't yet developed a brain, spinal cord, or nerve endings. If you're arguing for a cause you really believe in, then shame on you for being dishonest.

[KeithWasHere1]

a guy like Peterson can be charged with the death of his unborn son, but a bitch who has no concept of accountability and is too chickenshit of responsibility can do the same thing (murder is murder) and just stroll right on out and do it all over again?...someone bring back being burned at the stake.

[Mattm1986]

@KeithWasHere1

Wow. You're an asshole.

[KeithWasHere1]

lets think of it this way

imagine your on your knees and someones got a 9MM point blank against your skull,your hearts racing, your pissing and shitting your pants, sucking snot,and begging with all your heart for them not to pull the trigger,now what is the difference between that situation and killing a fetus..fetus cant beg for its life!,cant defend itself! personally i think all who condone or exercise this ungodly fucking act of absolute inhumanity should catch a round or two.

[Mattm1986]

@KeithWasHere1

You and people like Scott Roeder are fucking insane. You say abortion is murder, and murder is wrong, yet you condone the murder of doctors, who unlike the embryos and fetuses, already have established relationships with friends, family, co-workers. By killing them, your causing an infinite amount more pain for a lot more people. You're just a pathetic worthless sack of shit.

[KeithWasHere1]

@Mattm1986 oh and your some type of fucking saint for being for the wanton and indiscriminate killing of children before there lives ever begin? im the asshole for defending the right of a child to live? well then im an asshole then i guess and you can go fuck yourself ya pro choice fuckwad. and yeah any doctor that performs abortions should be put on his knees and shot in the back of the fucking head and left to rot in the sun and all those that follow his abominable practice.

[lmd816]

@KeithWasHere1 Your not an asshole for that. But what frustrates people is that theres no realistic solutions many pro-lifers can come up with except for "kill the doctors" (like in south dakota) some bullshit, or "practice abstinence only...no sex before marriage" (which has been proven not to work either). It's stuff like that which makes pro-lifers not taken seriously...The fact of the matter is that, teenage girls will get pregnant, accidents will happen, rape happens.

[KeithWasHere1]

@lmd816 yeah but the thing is that even with rape,promiscuity,incest the child could easily be put up for adoption and given the chance to LIVE! apart and separate from whatever the sperm donor and worthless ass momma did..! the only way i would ever condone an abortion...and it would be with an extremely heavy heart is if it was badly badly and i mean badly malformed/deformed and then it was undeniable that it would have nothing but a painful and hellish life,

[lmd816]

@KeithWasHere1 you should really critically think about the larger issues at hand, an not just come up with "well, everyone should just choose adoption"..if you had bonded for 9 months with a fetus in your uterus would you want to give it up to total strangers? most women in this situation cannot, and therefore end up keeping a baby they cant take care of...then what? welfare, hunger, poverty, emotional distance? You speak of life, but what about living?

[lmd816]

Respond to this video.. And well, that sums up my problem with republicans, that they only care about children up until they are born, then they don't give a shit.  until republicans can start giving insightful options on how to handle ALL of the issues surrounding abortion (money, child development, social welfare, health insurance, education, daycare, -- all of which have next to no funding for single mothers) then i will not take them seriously

[KeithWasHere1]

@lmd816 alot of healthy babies are terminated just simply for the convenience of it,and id even go so far as to say revenge on the father be whatever the conception may also cause alot of people out there are cowardly mofos that can do the did but cant handle what happens afterward,but there are also alot of couples out there that DESPERATELY want children.and all these little teeny bopper and early 20 shiftless layabouts just spend a few hundred and kill them off.its the zenith of cowardice IMO

[lmd816]

@KeithWasHere1 have you ever spoken to women that have had an abortion? I feel as though you haven't, and are underestimating what actually happens. I know many women that have had an abortion, so i can say with certainty, that it is NOT done for "convenience" or "revenge"..having an abortion is the most difficult decision a woman will probably ever make in her life. it is emotionally, and many times physically painful and heartbreaking.

[KeithWasHere1]

@lmd816 yes i have spoken to alot of women that have had abortions and then make the choice not to associate with them,and you are wrong about the revenge or convenience factor it happens, from your stand point it seems abortion is the cure all to welfare,hunger,poverty,and emotional distance again with the convenience.i wont apologize for my viewpoint,abortion and those that condone or perform it are cowards nothing more and nothing less.

[lmd816]

@KeithWasHere1 im not saying that it never happens that a woman might carelessly have an abortion, i'm sure it's out there, but what i'm saying is that the reason for it being legal is that we respect and trust women enough that they are making the right decisions for themselves, that they are making the right decision for their situation.

[KeithWasHere1]

@lmd816 oh please there are some women out there with the emotional attachment one would have to a bag of garbage,not all women are sanctified earth mothers so don't try to feed me that strawberry flavored bullshit and some women ,if you can see this or not its up to you,are sadists and enjoy creating drama,inflicting both emotional and physical pain,so killing a guys kid is usually par for the course and if you say it doesn't happen then you have blinders on to the world.

[lmd816]

@KeithWasHere1 i'm not saying that abortion is a cure for welfare, poverty, etc, i'm saying that these are the ROOT causes why women need to have abortion in the FIRST place, because republicans are so quick to make restrictions on abortion, yet they won't solve these root causes (i.e cutting back on healthcare, education, safe sex programs in schools, and day care funds for single mothers)..you don't want women to have abortions? then focus on these issues! blame the CAUSE, not the reaction.

[lmd816]

Respond to this video...(continued) So, there ARE realistic solutions that pro-lifers can focus on to make abortion rates go drastically down (but not illegalized, because like i said, we don't live in a perfect world, and accidents will happen).. But if you want to see real results with making abortion statistics go down, then go to the ROOT of the problem! As in - support safe sex education, health care funding for birth control and free condoms, sexual assault awareness, etc..!

[cadrolls1]

@Mattm1986 Someone needs to defend the babies. If a Police Officer saw a Mother stabbing her child, he would have the right to shoot her dead.

Same thing.

[Fallhearst]

This woman says that people cannot prevent her from "doing what she wants with her body". Which apparently means completely destroying another body.

[Shawtyyxo001]

that is so unjust, men should totally have their say and opinion on abortion.

1. men are hurt by abortion too

2. a woman can't get preggo w/o a MANS sperm

3. men got here the same way women did, and their mothers didnt abort them

4. whether the father is a rapist or your husband, it is the blood related father, just as equally as you are the blood related mother, he has a say

[christinepeace]

Who made you the decider over my uterus? Men don't have a say becuase they don't have a uterus, simple!

[Shawtyyxo001]

actually by law, men do have a say.

a woman cant get pregnant with out sperm. who has sperm? MEN. The main event of conception is the uniting of the mother and father's chromosomes to form a new, unique human being. so a baby has an equal amount of chromosomes from the mom and dad. just b/c its in ur uterus doesnt mean its more of ur kid and not so much the fathers.

if u think men shouldnt have a say then u shouldnt be allowed to abort MALE fetuses. simple.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

no, men have no legal rights to the embryo because they have no legal rights to a woman's body. also, men don't share equal burden of carrying the embryo inside their bodies.

you helped put it there but you're not carrying it= no rights to embryo...ask a lawyer!

[HowardSternn]

Hey Pro-Lifers Don't forget DRUGS&PROSTITUTION are illegal. Nobody does DRUGS because there illegal i'm assuming lol. Good luck with you're pro-life agenda. One thing i've always found out is that there are less abortions in countries where it's legal like France than in countries where it's illegal like Argentina,Chile,Mexico etc. The same with DRUGS there is less crime in countries where drugs are legal than in countries where it's illegal. Good luck Pro-Lifers.

Bababooey

[PROLIFE4130]

it was very! close, the new one (10) is going to pass

[sueezee]

prolife: was very! close, the new one (10) is going to pass Whop cares. IF abortion becomes illegal in SD, The Local indians have made a deal w/ Planned Parenthood to build a reproductive clinic on their land.... out of the jurisdiction of the S.D state governemt! When will you people understand, abortion will never end.

[truthadvocate]

If men don't have a right to decide what women do with their bodies, than certainly women have no right to decide whether or not to kill a male child as is clearly the case in partial birth abortion. I was adopted, thus my most basic human civil right to life was not stolen from me. Just because a fetus is dependent on another human for survival does not make a fetus something other than human. According to that twisted logic, children & the elderly are not human. I was not a human.

[Shawtyyxo001]

woopsie! i gave you a thumbs down but i meant the opposite. you have a good point! i am adopted too, and pro life.

[ekongoli]

lets say that abortion becomes legal in the world...what does that mean? that means the women who believ they should have abortions will practice their right and have them... so what? All the pro-lifers will sill stay away from abortion. you can argue the rights and wrongs all u want but even if it becomes legal, it has no effect on you.

[Batonfromage]

By the same token, most genocides have no effect on you either. Does that make them right? The belief that injustices should be ignored simply because they have no direct effect on you is a pretty selfish outlook.

[nesquick3415]

all the pro choice people wont get killed by abortion

[run3sc4p3m4st4]

riflesks i am with you...abortion is totally wrong..it is the worse crime...it's dishonerable to kill a Freaking B A B Y! its not right! alot of you will say it is just a fetus...thats where your wrong....it is a living, growing child...it deserves to live....not be "Legally" murdered by savage parents and docters behind sterile clinic doors

[PaopuHead2PickleHead]

Let's put it this way, there are times where some women when checked are reported that they could possibly die during child birth because some of their bodies just can't take the stress. Or maybe the woman was raped, should she have to struggle to raise another life when it wasn't her choice to begin with. You're walking a fine line by calling some parents 'savages' when you don't take into consideration certain circumstances that constitutes their right whether or not to get an abortion...

[Iraqveterankill4real]

Ther are exceptions and thats what they should be exceptions.People make choices and thats there right I agree I am going with pro-choice on abortion .I hope people will come to agree on something here.All I have a problem with is why the father doesnt get a say in it its his child too to truly be pro-choice the father has to have rights because he needs to choose as well I happen to have impregnated a woman and she let me choose I chose life and I have a beautifull baby son!!thats priceless!!

[Iraqveterankill4real]

I get what your saying I do agree with that statement but I dont agree with it when the parents had a fling and a mircale happened but doesnt want the responsability of raising a baby to become an adult.The problem with that is people will not be responsable for there actions like a drunk drive blames vechiluar manslaughter on the alcohol but he was still driving the car and still killed someone.maybe they where pregnant with a fetus but they are still charged with the manslaughter correct.

[lostgem86]

Riflesks there ways to state your opinion without being so rude...there's always two sides to something, and acting the way you are just makes you look bad.

[riflesks]

Abortion is the ultimate selfish act that a mother can commit.

Maternal instincts are to protect your child yet some woman are so selfish that they rather murder there child then give birth to them.

This is inhuman and monstrous and I feel that this ranks close to the worst type of murder anyone can commit

[tollefsr]

the absolute PINNACLE of ignorance. thank you.

[riflesks]

Neither men nor Woman have the right to murder. And it is not the womans body geting aborted its the childs!

[Pasithea]

Did you forget that a woman has to house said child in HER BODY for 9 months prior to it's birth? Also the costs of not only having a child but raising one...hmm let's see, $3000-$41,000 to have the child depending on what complications may arise, then spending around $130,000 a year just to raise that kid 'til it's 18. And let's see...abortion costs $300-$500 and you don't have to raise a kid after it's over, nor do you have to quit school, or your job and become a mommy against your will.

[riflesks]

pasithea women could use that as an argument to slaughter there 5 and 6 year olds its still murder

And if they don't want to become a mommy they should not have had sex period and there is always adoption which in some cases they could get money.

Anyone who would murder there child for money deserves to die.

[Pasithea]

So, let's say a woman is in a happily married relationship with her husband. She already has one kid and that's all she wants and it's all she can afford to pay for. Should she not have sex with her husband ever again? Why do people think that sex is JUST for making babies? This idea baffles me so very much...

As for killing an already born child, if you can't raise it give it up for adoption/so freaking obvious why did I have to say it?

[riflesks]

pasithea if its so freaking obvious that if you can't raise your child you can give him or her up for adoption then why are you not inteligent enough to figure out that a woman who is in a happily married relationship with her husband and dose not want another kid could give her baby up for adoption in fact any woman could do so and it would be a much better thing to give your child to another couple then to have him or her murdered by an abortionist.

[Tafferling]

there are too freaking much buggers on this planet anyway

[oldfshngrl]

$130,000 a year...are you serious? that is just ridiculous!

[eljagg01]

Actually, in terms of legal definitions, "murder" means the act of intentionally killing another person, and "personhood", my dear, is not granted to fetuses under U.S. law. Even when abortion was illegal, abortionists were not charged with murder, because the point of an abortion is not to kill the fetus, it is to end the pregnancy.

[riflesks]

This is the same U.s. law that allows child rapists to go free after a couple years in prison.

I consider murder to be the killing of an inosent person.

and by the way if someone shoots there girlfriend in the stomach to "end the pregnancy" he has commited two murders even if the intent was not to kill the mother and baby but way to "end the pregnancy"

[tvn66]

"the point of an abortion is not to kill the fetus, it is to end the pregnancy." Bullshit. So if some radical Islam blows himself up in a mall to gain honor, thats okay because the "point" of his suicide bombing was to gain honor not to kill innocent people? A child in the womb and a child in the mall are both just innocent bystanders? bullshit.

[tvn66]

Its bullshit because the child in the womb and the child in the mall are both victims of murder. no matter what the "point" of the act was.

[DbzFanAlways]

If i called you a fetus would that mean killing you would not be a crime? "fetus" is just a name, people use so they dont feel bad when they kill their unborn children.

[nyXdeathXangel]

Fetus is what it medically is.

"Unborn child" is a word you use to try and make people feel bad about getting abortions.

[Iraqveterankill4real]

Fetus is a latin word meaning baby do some studying every now and then.. Its like the word shellshock was used and it has been de-humized by the term post traumatic stress disorder.The same apllies here do you think the fetus(baby) wants to die?I wouldnt think so I think abortion should be legal because some pregnancies go wrong and some women are raped thats wrong.What else is wrong is that a father doesnt get a say to be truly pro-choice he has to have a choice too.Except for a rape case.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

how is giving men a choice is pro-choice? when it's actually gives power over someone else who actually has the embryo inside them and will go through the pain of 9 months of pregnancy and the pain of 10-20 hours of labors...men don't share equal burden of pregnancy and labor, so that's why men don't have any rights.

and what if the man wanted abortion and the woman didn't? and how would they split the rights up?

[Iraqveterankill4real]

Thats what we need to find out isnt it? And it takes two to make a baby you are a femminist and you place is in my kitchen get to work bitch!!!

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

wow, it doesn't need to happen because it's against a woman's civil and legal rights to her own body to give it to some man, who doesn't have the burden of pregnancy and childbirth, dumbass.

but," it takes two" and your point is?

one is doing all the work and have her own life for better or worse and one can leave and still have no burden.

I'm talking about the legality of men's rights with reality and just you sat nothing because deep down inside you...you know it can't legally work, bitch!

[Iraqveterankill4real]

See you didnt like it when I insulted your rights thats a taste of your own medicine.Futhermore I am saying it takes a mans sperm and a womans uterus/eggs to make a baby or do you refute modern biology.Thus the father and mother both have rights to the child just because a woman carries the child doesnt mean she should be able to exstinguish the fathers half of the child unless both agree on it and if the fathe wants the child and the mother doesnt then the father should have legal rights to it.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

didn't like what? you just proved yourself to be another pro-lifer that doesn't think how his opinions come into reality or law

i didn't refute anything, I'm talking about legality of men's rights and when i asked you how and you didn't give me any answer but get back in the kitchen.

sorry, but in reality, biology doesn't mean anything unless the child is born, so unless you share the equal burden and have legal rights to a woman's body...then you have no legal rights to embryo, ask a lawyer!

[Iraqveterankill4real]

You know I dont care anymore do what you want

[Sennot1]

Murder whether intended or not is murder. The burden of proof is on the side trying to prove that a baby is not entitled to its rights. Those are clear straight fwd and unavoidable conclusions of the bill of rights. Any contrary view is intellectually and morally bankrupt. Its also why you never hear a pro abortionist mention the rights of the child. The minute they do the arguments are self condemning.

So in truth abortion is a SELFISH act. I can sympathize with the scared girl.

[vpnpeon]

Everyone knows what's best for a woman's body: whatever her husband says! This voting nonsense is ridiculous (especially with women allowed now), 'democratic' even! What next, the end of slavery? People allowed to join trade unions without threats and intimidation? An increase in the minimum wage?? This is completely insane and MUST be stopped!

[ZEBU1212]

abortions for all!