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  • Wow, this is a great find - I love the song. Never in a million years would I have guessed that JPJ came up with the riff and Pagey was learning it from him.

  • God, I wish i born around this time to see them live. I had to be born in the 80's damn it!

  • JPJs bass sounds huge on this. Such great tone! What an all around monster he is.

  • I'm no musician, but I can see why they elected to close the group after Bonham died. Don't think there was anyone who could have filled the void he left.

  • indeed killer stuff and a window in as they make the magic !

    thanks for this gift , bonzo smile's on you from heaven imho

    see ya , al --- i grew up on zep at 46 i still love em !

  • Holy shit! This is one of the coolest youtubes I've heard. I mean, this is the conception of "Black Dog"!!

  • kick ass all the way , zep rules

  • From the mouth of JPJ: “My dad had taught me this very easy notation system using note values and numbers. So I wrote it on a piece of paper on the train, probably the ticket. It was originally all in 3/16 time, but nobody could keep up and Bonzo struggled with the juxtaposition of the songs basic 4/4 rhythm with the 5/8 riffing of myself and Jimmy on the B-verse section. I told Bonzo to keep playing 4 to the bar all the way cause if we go through enough 5/8’s, it arrives back on the beat”.

  • jemmani22...the riff is brought to Zep by JPJ, that is why you can hear the bass playing the riff and the guitar trying to learn it. Check the facts first.

  • this is such a smokin song... maybe one of the top 20 of all time....

  • JPJ is the shit...

  • LED-ZEPPELIN RULES.THE CHEMISTRY BETWEEN THE FOUR OF THEM IS "AMAZING"!!!!

  • it really sounds like JPJ is running this thing

  • @godintheradio Because he was running things.

  • @godintheradio hes the one who mad the guitar riifffffffff

  • WOW !!!

    !

  • Three people are Creed fans...

  • @andelocks Hey I am a diehard Zep fan but what is wrong with Creed???

  • Love it!

    

  • Still trying to figure out who the 3 bozos are that disliked this. =|

  • I like the groove inwhich Plant sings on this demo - wish it was on the original.

  • Explosively groovy!  So cool to hear the genius work in progress.

  • just incredible to hear them talking and hear how it evolves what a find thank you

  • Jimmy Page deve muito a John Paul Jones. Com Black Dog, Jonesy mostra que é tão bom qto Jimmy

  • Thanks for posting. Those of you in your 40's remember being a teenager in 70's not having much on the band. I love this posting and keep learning about the band. Wondering how Page got a writting credit on the song? I've read that Jonesy said that it was Bonham who figured out a part in the song.

  • Damn bonzos right foot was heavy as hell !!!

  • I wonder if they knew how brillant they were when they played? Cos this stuff gives me chills masters at work.

  • JOHN PAUL JONES is Led Zeppelins secret weapon !!

  • @z1inspector yea but it aint no secret ;)

  • @z1inspector Jones is this quiet unassuming Englishman who apparently walks around with funky ,bluesy , ballsy and heavy ass grooves floating around in his head . And he has some of the best chops in the game besides ! And when hes is not rocking someones face off , he conducts freaking symphony orchestra s and writes operas ( which he is currently doing ) Jones is a different kind of cat and a gift to rock music

  • Wow, thanks so much for sharing such a rarity.

  • i agree johnygrass, i thought jimmy page did all the riffs but he's following john paul jones. He is a genious bass player makes it look and sound easy but is so not.

  • @rickydal yes, John Paul Jones reportedly came up with the Black Dog riff, and it was a bit tricky in the turnaround sections - also inspired by a version of SMokestack lightnin off The Howlin' Wolf Album.

  • @mhotter thts good to know as a bass player, i find him one of the most inspiring. Never thought of howling wolf being inspiration but ofcoarse must be, its just they take it to such a new level its amazing.

  • Just think: If Led Zep came out today they would never be signed or promoted because they don't do karaoke like Britney or Kanye.

  • Genius. great song starts from a great jam!!

  • Thanks for the great post. Rock n Roll genius at work here!

  • That's musical alchemy at work. :)

  • i found this while randomly browsing youtube for zeppelin clips. thank you so much for uploading this gem. actually brought a tear to my eye!

  • Shit this gives me chills. and yes johnygrasa you are right Jonsey did not get alot of credit for being the brilliant man he is.I love the way he walking Pagey through the chords.I'm a Page fan big time but this time Pagey is following Jonesy lead on cos it was Jonesy idea for Black Dog anyway.

  • I love that this is just a work in progress and still has so much power and personality. Their iconic status is well-deserved.

  • I like the drum intros before the guitars kick in in this version rather than the studio. Jonesy definately does not get enought credit for being as bad ass as he is on the bass. Thank goodness for youtube where you can easily access such great moments in rock n roll history with just one click of a mouse.

  • @johnygrasa Jones wrote the riff for this song and many others. Page said the original riff was to difficult and he had to alter it.

  • @f1fan65 why do you have to lie theres no such quote

  • @MixxMasterKid / so did page say he had to alter it ? or not ! very interesting

  • @z1inspector it was meant to be a high bass riff pagey just added a guitar riff on top and alas it was black dog

  • @f1fan65 that would be wild /did he really do that?

  • @johnygrasa yeah the drum rolls into the main riff are awesome, because of this rehearsels jason played it kinda like this at the 2007 reunion i think

  • @johnygrasa haha i'm on a laptop so i click on the little pad thing. anyways, ive always said that john paul jones was quite underrated! not only as a bassist, but as a musician! he does so much!

  • @creepingdeth25 haha, i'm oldskool

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  • I can confirm this is Led Zeppelin as their biggest fan.

  • History in the making

  • this is John Paul Jones's riff my all time favourite riff from my all time favourite bass player from my all time favourite band

    its like sitting in on their jam session....so cool!

  • awesome band rehersal!!!!!!!! wish i was there. damn! its LED ZEP!!!!!!!! making history...

  • this version doesnt have enough bass

  • @chriskoob - ;)

  • 4:34 - Incredible. There it is! This song changed my life!

  • This is a glimpse into the creation of another Zeppelin masterpiece. Sound quality is great.

  • Oh my f**g god John Bonham is insane

  • That has to be the coolest outtake I've ever heard. 

  • Led Zeppelin is the greatest band in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Fuck the Beatles

  • @BonzofoREVer1 Twat! You are comparing two different genre.

  • @BonzofoREVer1 Agreed...wait...fuck the WHAT?!

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  • LZ - лучшая группа навсегда!

  • i love this video

  • Led Zeppelin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!ftw

  • That bass tone is awesome!

  • Sounds like they came up with it on the spot. Amazing...

  • crazy isn't it how a song grows and change to become a completed masterpeice?

  • can some led buff recommend and good reads on the band concerning how they created and composed their stuff...like the creativity aspect?

    thanks. msg me !

  • @Mozartmostly John Paul Jones wrote a riff that he wanted to build up and spiral down on itself and have a very akward time signature so cover bands couldnt copy it. The title was developed because a black dog died in the house they used as a recording studio for "IV"

  • @DeltaGaryGordon Naw, it just kept walking by while they were recording.

  • @tonydalcon oh i wonder where i got the died thing from then.

  • wish the bass would have had this same tone in the studio version.

  • @emitchsr It was recorded direct in the same line as one of the guitars so they got meshed together more than on separate channels.

  • led zeppelin actually made up most of the fourth album's material on the spot...pretty ridiculously awesome. John Paul Jones sure came up with a badass riff. its cool how the lyrics that Plant is singing are different. keep rockin

  • Gracias amigo TheWantonMan por tu aporte, si hay más todos los FANATICOS DE LA BANDA MAS GRANDE DEL MUNDO te lo vamos a seguir agradeciendo !!!

  • dude - !!?? !! ~~ where did you find this ?? ~~ totally awe -inspiring, ~ especially the off-beat thing - totally awesome !!

  • Wooooooooooow!!! Thanks for posting these rehersals!!!! Damn... They kicked ass!!!

  • bull shit try allittle harder next time!!!

  • Bonham, wow.

  • thanks so much!

  • Listen carefully to the lyrics sung in the background... doesn't quite sound like the lyrics in the final version.

  • Golden stuff!

  • please quit talking i want to hear this!

  • The kit comin in at 2:56 says it all.

    What a great find for me and everyone.

  • i dont know what it is about Bonham's drums, even playing little out take bits... his rhythm, style and sound are simply the best... so fluid and and funky its just damn amazing...

  • @5H4V3D89 Inimitable. And he might be the only drummer of whom it could be said that, if you took every other instrument out of the mix on each song, you'd still recognise the track instantly because his drumming tells the story of the song. Some of his "riffs" are the actual driving force. Kashmir and When The Levee Breaks are two examples, I'd say.

  • In a respect you are right. It's like comparing apples and oranges, but the name will live on as Motzart's hasl IMO!!!! only time will tell. It was a different era. I know Motzart was composing at a VERY early age, and is my favorite classical composer. It's all hypothetical. I can tell you is 40 years after Zeps demise they are as, or more popular then ever. Don't be closed minded . It's OPINION and time will tell after we are long gone. Lets here your argument

  • Headley grange is 10 minutes from my house, how awesome.

  • @SwanSongRecords how can you live near heaven?

  • @SwanSongRecords Woooooooow dude, if was you I would be there every 2 seconds hahah

  • @SwanSongRecords Headley Grange is one of the places in this world I want to travel to one day, i want to see the house in front of me from which such a magical sound comes from.

  • @ChrisSchokofreak Wierdly its not humoungous, just a small country house in the small village of headley, very cool nonetheless!

  • @SwanSongRecords I know you can see it at google street view .... but well i think as real led zeppelin fan and guitarist whos inspired by the guys I really should see it... and I like this kind of "nonetheless" landscape and villages

  • @SwanSongRecords wow really!?!?!? O.o great!! xD :D

  • @luisBBKING Yeah, headley is a mere 10 minute drive, its pretty good ;)

  • @SwanSongRecords NOSTALGIA.

  • @jamirosmajicrocks Cant go wrong.

  • @SwanSongRecords fucking sweet!

  • I like the drum intro better here than on the studio album. They were ALL BRILLIANT and 4 musicians tis talented will NEVER happen again!!!!! In 200 years, if people are still around, Zep will be looked opon as Motzart is today! People are over looking how easy Bonham put this together. With the "odd time" breaks, he makes it groove as usual

  • @urajokeMC

    Yeah - like "Motzart" - hahaha

    You better learn a bit more - in every aspect, then write the next post...

  • That's quite awesome to listen to...shame there's no video...

    But to listen to a really raw and rough diamond knowing how good the finished product is... WoW!

    They must have spent alot of time working on it...

  • This is awesome!!

    Would it be better to witness this in person or see the finished product in concert?

    Tough call.

    Sure would love to hear them working Achilles out.

  • Gods creating...

  • ladies and gentleman, we just witnessed history in the making.

  • holy shit, the making of one of the most famous songs in rock history. more please!

  • thunder clap drums. I wish it was that raw on the records they would have influenced more punk than heavy metal if they had been less produced

  • i love how jonsey made that riff and has to show it to pagey

  • Awesome!

  • BONZO. IS. THE. DEFINITION. OF. PRESENCE.

    (pun intended)

    and this is amazing to hear.

  • IF only Zeppelin had filmed their studio process, like The Beatles and others did.... oh wow

  • @Rover775 yeah, they where kind of private, wich is why every interview or film of them is considered RARE, my cousin's friend has film of led zeppelin in Headley Grange and its just 10min of led zep hangin around the house and rehearsing, and its valued over 1200$,

  • its easier to learn how to play this song listening to this than the album version imho

  • The drums here are so powerful!

  • Love it !!! Hearing such a hit in its early and raw form..

  • Jimmy's solo! This rehearsal which turned into these amazing rockin' licks. How the solo starts with that one lick! It's so fucking raw!

  • I just really appreciate being able to hear it....uno, for free.

  • its just pure raw energy... its incredible how the end result they recorded retains that rawness. they were a truly amazing group of musicians, each feeding of the other. awesome!

  • i love this song.

  • it is so incredible to hear the process of Black Dog creation:)

  • i think it sounds better than the original :P thats my opinion:P

  • JPJ é um maestro

  • percebam que Plant descobriu o falcete neste momento.

  • plant crakes me up, and i like that bass tone with his longer touch.

  • rumour had it that while Jimmy was recording his only solo lp, his home in London was broken into and alot of outtakes and some masters of Zeppelin were taken.I always wondered where it would end up.Great shit don't get me wrong but ,if this is the stuff that was taken from Jimmys house its a shame and,a blessing,,,cos we get to hear but,then he lost these tapes forever. And Yes JPJ did bring this song with him to headley grange. it was his baby.

  • @43bumpy.If that is true then the tapes will surface one day, maybe not in our lifetime, but someday. They are priceless artifacts almost and things like that dont disappear forever

  • the led zeppelin invasion!

  • jpj is a boss

  • where can i download zeppelin bootlegs

  • At around 1min 24 I think Bonham says' "I fucked it completly".

  • i heard it

    lol

  • God, Bonham kicks soo much ass

  • they all do

  • WOW!!!

  • no sleep, drug use, constant touring

  • 1:16 I can't figure out why Robert always had so many colds while they were on tour.

  • I think possibly because he's screaming and shouting so much he clears his throat a lot more making him more sensitive to stuff cos the protective stuff gets cleared too. That coupled with 'the odd cigarette or two' is probs it

  • it was actually a joke because the other blokes are wearing warm coats on an obviously cold day and Robert is standing there with his chest bare to the waist.

  • holly lead head!

  • This kicks so much ass. I think I had a bootleg with this demo on it.

  • 4:20, nice Drum Beat

  • great!

  • SO FRIGGIN AWESOME!!!! i cant believe this is when they are actually writing the song! EPICALLY EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Gotta love Zeppelin

  • 0:25

    Bonzo: Oh yeah look at me I'm so badass and sexy look at me woo hoo!

    Take this Freddie Mercury!

    Jimmy: Hmm....*is thinking/contemplating*

    How can we toss Robert out of here without the other three of us falling out of here.....

    Jonesy: *looks tired but innocent*

    Hello. *smiles weakly*

    Robert: I can't see a thing, my big hair and big lips are in the way, what am I missing?!?!

  • This is a brilliant piece of music. Bonham is epic!

  • This is gold, they are actually making up the song and it's on record!

  • absolutely, I wish it had been louder on the records

  • this is not a rehearsal, they are actually writing the song

  • That was unbelievable!! I've always wondered if anything like demos of Zep were in existence, or saved (ala the Beatles Anthology), and it's great to know that on a smaller scale they do. I would love to have this on my iPod!

  • look for the bootleg "Out Through The Backdoor"

    its rehearsal sessions from In Through The Outdoor. there some really cool stuff on there like the song that would inspire In The Light and The Rover how it was originally written, acoustically. cool stuff.

  • ** sorry i meant rehearsal sessions from In Through The Outdoor and Physical Graffiti. they're put into one bootleg though

  • Music like Frank Zappa's,was usually written out on sheet music and done as is.But sometime's music has to be worked out in the rehearsal stage.This is a perfect example. This is a great find. Thank's for posting !

  • This is not just rehearsing or practicing. This is them in the process of creating the song.

  • Simply delicious audio! Like they were practicing in your garage, just outside the kitchen door! You could really mess with your neighbors minds with the right speakers! Wish I could hear Plant better. If I play this enough times, maybe I'll dream it, tonight! Wanton, You Da Man!!

  • I do exactly that -

    I have tons of zep rehearsals and work sessions like this one that I blast all the time -

    somebody came buy the other day and said you guys sound great with that version of no quarter - and I just laughed

  • So share some love with the rest of us and post some of your stuff here!. Please!

  • wow, this is powerful, profound, and priceless. I feel like I'm with them in the creative process; not sitting way up in the stairway-to-heaven bleachers where the sound is through speakers. This has a surround sound quality & feedback. The drums have that fabulous effect as played on a wooden stage. JPJ engages the interlock. Robert is testing his extra-terrestrial territory. ha ha such fun! Jimmy communes with his Inner Master. They're one reason I aspired to be a lyricist. ♥

  • I just found this by accident!

    I've been a huge Zeppelin fan for years, but never in my wildest dreams would I expect to hear such a demo.

    "Black Dog" was the first song that I'd ever 'heard'. The first song that I made a real emotional connection with. Ever since, I've been an audiophile.

    I now make my living as a musician/composer/ music producer/engineer.

    To hear 'Black Dog' in such an embryonic state like this is fantastic!

    This is the best 7 minutes I've spent all year! WooHoo!!

  • Where do you get this shit? It's brilliant.

  • This bootleg has been around for at least 15 years.

  • @ 1:00 john paul jones looks like kid rock to me xD

  • PLEASE for the love of the music GODS let there be a doco WORTHY of the zep story. Start to end. The influences to the bands that copy.

    Come on Cameron. Get a project running. BEST doco EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Academy award baby!!!!

    Something like "Classic Albums" series, but the Zep story. I would dead set KILL to see that.

    can we PLEASE see a doco with interviews from surviving members ad those who helped create the Zep phenominon.

  • omfg way cooooool ty ty ty ......kiss

  • this is history.you can hear Jimmy figure out the licks in 2 or 3 tries and then let the beast do his thing.VERY IMPRESSIVE! this is a monent in time that is historical

  • the zepp shall ramble on 4 ever

  • This is great as it gives a glimpse behind the glamour.

    Where the hell did you get this?

  • WantonMan - unless you're Jimmy Page, you should give this stuff back to him.

    If you are JP, then thanks!

    PS - how much do I love John Bonham... !